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User: "Jong Kim"
Date: 15 Nov 2007 12:37:48 AM
Object: For Kermit: Norman Mailer, Death of a Novelist
"John Baker" wrote:


"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" wrote on Nov 11, 2007:


They think they can bore us into acceptance.

Or, as with witchcraft, they think their magic spells
actually have the power to change our minds.

Or, they are just morons that don't know better.

Take your pick.


Yeah, that's a load of #2, alright....

Casting spells again, aren't we "Watchman"?
~~SeppoP, on Nov 9, 2007
No, it ain't me. Sounds like it's you.
31 ¶ Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be
forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be
forgiven unto men.
(New Testament | Matthew 12:31)
"He that doth evil, let him do evil still: and he which is filthy, let him
be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be *MORE* righteous:
and he that is holy, let him be *MORE* holy."
~~Revelation 22:11 (1534 Tyndale translation)
"He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him
be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and
he that is holy, let him be holy still."
~~Revelation 22:11 (1611 King James Version)
34 And wo be unto him that will not hearken unto the words of Jesus, and
also to them whom he hath chosen and sent among them; for whoso receiveth
not the words of Jesus and the words of those whom he hath sent receiveth
not him; and therefore he will not receive them at the last day;
35 And it would be better for them if they had not been born. For do ye
suppose that ye can get rid of the justice of an offended God, who hath been
trampled under feet of men, that thereby salvation might come?
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 28:34 - 35)
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the
heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the
water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in
store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of
ungodly men.
(New Testament | 2 Peter 3:5 - 7)
6 Yea, wo unto him that shall deny the revelations of the Lord, and that
shall say the Lord no longer worketh by revelation, or by prophecy, or by
gifts, or by tongues, or by healings, or by the power of the Holy Ghost!
7 Yea, and wo unto him that shall say at that day, to get gain, that there
can be no miracle wrought by Jesus Christ; for he that doeth this shall
become like unto the son of perdition, for whom there was no mercy,
according to the word of Christ!
8 Yea, and ye need not any longer hiss, nor spurn, nor make game of the
Jews, nor any of the remnant of the house of Israel; for behold, the Lord
remembereth his covenant unto them, and he will do unto them according to
that which he hath sworn.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 29:6 - 8)
29 For where is the disputer that there is a God in that day which shall
burn, even as an oven, saith the Lord?
30 Now of these things, ye must judge.
31 For it is that by what judgment, saith the Lord, that a man judgeth, that
he shall also be judged, and it shall be unto every man, even according to
his work.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 8:29-31
"Judgment [of God is] according to opportunity for acquiring truth."
~~Art Bulla, Apostle of Jesus Christ
3 And it is that this death cometh upon all those who deny me and
*PERSIST* therein and who will not repent, neither can they, saith
the Lord God of Israel who it is that doth speak unto thee, O man,
whom I the Lord God have created in mine own image, even in the
image of mine Only Begotten Son have I created thee.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 43:3
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will
recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 [It is] a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
(New Testament | Hebrews 10:30 - 31)
13 And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of the wicked, yea, who
are evil--for behold, they have no part nor portion of the Spirit of the
Lord; for behold, they chose evil works rather than good; therefore the
spirit of the devil did enter into them, and take possession of their
house--and these shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be
weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth, and this because of their own
iniquity, being led captive by the will of the devil.
14 Now this is the state of the souls of the wicked, yea, in darkness,
and a state of awful, fearful looking for the fiery indignation of the
wrath of God upon them; thus they remain in this state, as well as
the righteous in paradise, until the time of their resurrection.
(Book of Mormon | Alma 40:13 - 14)
20 For it was that them before the flood obtained promise of deliverance
in the resurrection from hell, which shall not be given unto this
generation, saith the Lord, for thou hast also blasphemed against
the Holy Ghost, O liberal man and woman, which they did not do before
the flood.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 24:20
I didn't cast no spell on Norman Mailer either. Yea, thus saith the Lord of
hosts, Mailer did it to himself. (10:32 pm, Nov 13, 2007)
http://www.normanmailersociety.com
Norman Mailer Passes at 84
With great sorrow, the family of Norman Mailer announces his passing
on November 10, at Mt. Sinai Hospital in New York City. The cause was
acute renal failure. He was eighty four.
Mailer resided in Provincetown, Massachusetts, with his wife of 33 years,
Norris Church Mailer, and maintained an apartment in Brooklyn, New York.
He was the author of more than 30 books, the director of four films, and
a co-founder of the Village Voice. He ran for mayor of New York in the
1969 Democratic primary, and was a member of the American Institute of
Arts and Letters. He won many literary awards, including two Pulitzers and
the National Book Award.
His latest book, *On God: an Uncommon Conversation*, was
published on October 16th.
*On God: an Uncommon Conversation* (2007),
by Norman Mailer, with Michael Lennon:
Norman Mailer:
Oh, Christ, Mike, I don't think in these formulae. I want to get to
something more basic to my thought, which is that much of the world's
present-day cosmology is based on such works of revelation as the Old and
New Testament, or the Koran, yet for me Revelation is itself the question
mark. Revelation, after all, is not God's words but ours, words debated back
then, if you will, in committee and assembled by working theologians with
varying agendas. After all, why would God bother to speak in such a fashion?
There's no need. God could have imparted such thoughts directly to us.
Revelation has always struck me as a power trip for high priests who were
looking to create a product that would enable them to lead their flock more
securely, more emphatically. Their modern-day practitioners quote constantly
from Scripture on TV, use it as their guide rail, and run into intolerable
contradictions that are guaranteed to cripple their power to reason. I will
go so far as to say that to be a Fundamentalist is to exist as a human whose
reasoning powers have been degraded into inanition before any question for
which a Fundamentalist does not already have an answer.
I confess, then, that I feel no attachment whatsoever to organized religion.
I see God, rather, as a Creator, as the greatest artist. I see human beings
as His most developed artworks. I also see animals as His artworks. When I
think of evolution, what stands out most is the drama that went on in God as
an artist. Successes were also marred by failures. I think of all the errors
He made in evolution as well as of the successes. In marine life, for
example, some fish have hideous eyes -- they protrude from the head in tubes
many inches long. Think of all those animals of the past with their peculiar
ugliness, their misshapen bodies, worm life, frog life, vermin life, that
myriad of insects -- so many unsuccessful experiments. These were also modes
the Artist was trying -- this great artist, this divine artist -- to express
something incredible, and it was not, for certain, an easy process. Indeed,
it went on forever! I would guess that evolution was tampered with, if not
actually blindsided on occasion, by the Devil. I think there were false
trips that God engaged in because the Devil deluded Him -- or Her. Forgive
me if I keep speaking of God as "Him," that's a habit that's come down to me
from Revelation. Obviously, to speak of God as "Her" is off-putting, but to
speak of "Him/Her" or "It" is worse.
In any event, it makes sense to me that this strife between God and the
Devil has been a factor in evolution. Whether God had a free hand or the
Devil was meddling in it from the commencement -- either way, some species
were badly conceived. Sometimes a young artist has to make large errors
before he or she can go farther.
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou
[art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy
belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
(Old Testament | Genesis 3:14)
Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear
it, and will know it sooner or later. They came here, organized the raw
material, and arranged in their order the herbs of the field, the trees, the
apple, the peach, the plum, the pear, and every other fruit that is
desirable and good for man; the seed was brought from another sphere, and
planted in this earth. The thistle, and thorn, the brier, and the obnoxious
weed did not appear until after the earth was cursed. When Adam and Eve had
eaten of the forbidden fruit, their bodies became mortal from its effects,
and therefore their offspring were mortal.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.1, Pg.50, Brigham Young, April 9, 1852
Two men say they're Jesus one of them must be wrong
How come Jesus gets industrial disease?
~~Dire Straits
Norman Mailer [continued]:
I can hear the obvious rejoinder: "There's Norman Mailer, an artist of
dubious high rank looking to give himself honor, nobility, and importance by
speaking of God as an artist." I'm perfectly aware that that accusation is
there to be brought in. All I say here may indeed be no more than a
projection of my own egotistical preferences.
Michael Lennon:
Well, you have spoken of God as a novelist. . . .
Norman Mailer:
No, I haven't. What I have said upon occasion is that God is
a better novelist than the novelists -- that's not the same thing.
*The Brothers Karamazov* (1880):
God took seeds from different worlds and sowed them on this earth, and
His garden grew up and everything came up that could come up, but
what grows lives and is alive only through the feeling of its contact with
other mysterious worlds. If that feeling grows weak or is destroyed in you,
the heavenly growth will die away in you. Then you will be indifferent
to life and even grow to hate it.
~~Fyodor Dostoevsky
92 For I the Lord God am the author of all truth, which cometh from me.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 3:92
Arthur Miller, the playwright who explored the underbelly of the
American Dream through the pie-in-the-sky eyes of Willy Loman
in "Death of a Salesman," ...
.... said entertainment critic Dean Richards. ...
"Miller is, without a doubt, one of the top five most important playwrights
of the 20th century."
....
The man who created Willy Loman had barely read a play until he attended the
University of Michigan. He had been to the theater only twice as a child.
Still, he went on to become one of the most influential dramatists in modern
history.
Born in New York City's Harlem neighborhood on Oct. 17, 1915,
Arthur Asher Miller had more interest in sports than school, once claiming
he "never read a book weightier than Tom Swift" until he picked up
"The Brothers Karamazov" just after graduating high school.
Miller was soon bent on studying drama in Michigan, ...
Willy Loman, Tragic Everyman
.... two years later, he had a Broadway hit with "All My Sons," a tragedy
about a desperate manufacturer who saves his business by selling faulty
machine parts to the military.
Miller was soon hailed for finding Shakespearean tragedy in the lives of
everyday Americans. His follow-up, "Death of a Salesman," brought worldwide
acclaim and a Pulitzer. The tragic Willy Loman instantly became one of
modern theater's best-known characters, the epitome of disillusionment with
the American Dream.
Cast off by the company he once so animatedly revered, Loman is crushed by
middle age and the fear of being a failure in his son's eyes, finally
killing himself so that his family can collect the insurance money.
"Willy," his wife says, speaking over his grave, "I made the last payment on
the house today. Today, dear. And there'll be nobody home." Translated into
a dozen languages and performed all over the world, "Death of a Salesman"
was the birth of Miller as an international celebrity. But success didn't
cool his criticism of contemporary society. His next play, "The Crucible,"
set in Salem during the 17th-century witch hunts, ...
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Health/story?id=491164&page=1
99 And all who receive not these things, saith the Lord, shall be cut off
from among the people in that day which shall prove the destruction of this
the American nation when the economy thereof, which is after the Order of
Babylon the Great, shall fall.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 5:99
Norman Mailer:
For jazz is orgasm, it is the music of orgasm, good orgasm and bad, and so
it spoke across a nation, it had the communication of art even where it was
watered, perverted, corrupted, and almost killed, it spoke in no matter what
laundered popular way of instantaneous existential states to which some
whites could respond, it was indeed a communication by art because it said,
"I feel this, and now you do too."
http://dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=877
7 [Are] ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel?
saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and
the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?
8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD [are] upon the sinful kingdom, and I will
destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly
destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all
nations, like as [corn] is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain
fall upon the earth.
10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil
shall not overtake nor prevent us.
11 ¶ In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and
close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will
build it as in the days of old:
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which
are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
(Old Testament | Amos 9:7 - 12)
http://www.sj-r.com/News/stories/19477.asp
J. Michael Lennon: Former SSU professor glad for opportunities
By STEVEN SPEARIE
CORRESPONDENT
Published Monday, November 05, 2007
The following is the latest installment of "Headliners," where we catch
up with a newsmaker from Springfield's past.
When J. Michael Lennon came to Sangamon State University,
now the University of Illinois at Springfield, in 1972, he found
professional opportunities not lacking.
....
Lennon spent two decades at SSU, on both the academic and administrative
sides, before departing for Wilkes University in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., where he
served as a vice president and founded the creative writing program.
Lennon has also maintained a long professional relationship and friendship
with author Norman Mailer. He recently collaborated with Mailer on the book
"On God: An Uncommon Conversation" (Random House 2007.)
In the mid-1980s, Lennon became one of Mailer's literary executors -- "the
guarders of the flame" -- who, after Mailer's death, will make decisions
about the author's literary remains. Lennon has also been helping to
organize papers in Mailer's archives, the single largest collection of any
writer, at the University of Texas.
Mailer, twice the winner of the Pulitzer Prize for Literature, was the
subject of Lennon's 1975 doctoral dissertation, controversial in those days
because Mailer was a living, working author.
The two forged a friendship, and Lennon has edited several of Mailer's works
through the years, including "Pieces and Pontifications."
"On God" came about, says Lennon, through several spontaneous conversations.
The book codified Mailer's systematic record of beliefs. "('On God') is
something he would never had done 30 years ago," Lennon says.
51 And it is in this manner that Satan with his mists of darkness and his
retarding of the human mind, and lies hath deceived you, O man, as
anciently, by the traditions of your fathers which apostatized from mine
ordinances and broke my new and everlasting covenant which I the Father
did make with them.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 24:51
*New Atlantis* (1626?),
by Sir Francis 'shakespeare' Bacon:
And because propagation of families proceedeth from the nuptial
copulation, I desired to know of him what laws and customs they had
concerning marriage, and whether they kept marriage well, and whether they
were tied to one wife? For that where population is so much affected, and
such as with them it seemed to be, there is commonly permission of plurality
of wives.
To this he said: "... You shall understand that there is not under the
heavens so chaste a nation as this of Bensalem, nor so free from all
pollution or foulness. It is the virgin of the world.
"I have not read of any such chastity in any people as theirs. And their
usual saying is, that whosoever is unchaste cannot reverence himself;
and they say that the reverence of a man's self, is, next religion,
the chiefest bridle of all vices."
And when he had said this the good Jew paused a little; ...
he bowed his head, and went on this manner.
"They have also many wise and excellent laws touching marriage.
They allow no polygamy. ...
http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=4438
Jews have never considered Norman Mailer one of their own as they have
Saul Bellow, Bernard Malamud, the once pariah Philip Roth or even the
sceptical Woody Allen. I think they are mistaken.
Mailer, the Pulitzer Prize-winning author who died in the US at the weekend
aged 84, was a deeply religious writer.
Like Hawthorne and Faulkner, he was concerned with God and the Devil, Good
and Evil.
....
Mailer's ideology, as an American writer and social commentator, stems from
the activist or prophetic side of Judaism.
Despite the sometimes outrageous subject matter and highly charged sexual
content, Mailer's novels and essays reflect a highly moral approach to life.
His concerns for the individual override all else. Like a Jeremiah, he rails
against the capitulation of modern man to the demands of the mediocre.
I first met Mailer in the spring of 1978. ...
.... We spoke of many things, including his Jewish upbringing,
his grandfather who was a rabbi and his distance from the faith, though
he had never written anything negative about Judaism, as he had promised
his mother he would not.
At heart he was "the nice Jewish boy from Brooklyn."
When the time came to part, Mailer told me he got a good feeling from my
letters and now our conversation, and that "we would be friends for life."
He was true to his word. Our friendship lasted from that day until his death
last Saturday.
....
The marriage to his sixth wife, the artist Norris Church -- they were
married by a rabbi -- that lasted 27 years till his death was an unending
love affair.
I was not the acolyte at the feet of the master. Our friendship was
a two-way street. ... Mailer told me that I was his unofficial rabbi.
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy
boast of God,
18 And knowest [his] will, and approvest the things that are more excellent,
being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of
them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of
knowledge and of the truth in the law.
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law
dishonourest thou God?
24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you,
as it is written.
25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a
breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall
not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law,
judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that]
circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of
the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of
men, but of God.
(New Testament | Romans 2:17-20,23-29)
37 Behold, I, the Lord, have made my church in these last days like unto
a judge sitting on a hill, or in a high place, to judge the nations.
38 For it shall come to pass that the inhabitants of Zion shall judge all
things pertaining to Zion.
39 And liars and hypocrites shall be proved by them, and they who are not
apostles and prophets shall be known.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 64:37 - 39)
Mailer epitomized a certain species of macho, adolescent radicalism that
helped to inure the wider public to displays of violence, anti-American
tirades, and sexual braggadocio. It didn't start out that way. Born in Long
Branch, New Jersey, in 1923, Mailer was brought up in Brooklyn,
"a nice Jewish boy," as he once put it, from a middle-class family of
first-generation immigrants. It was a background from which he had long
endeavored to escape. "Mailer," Norman Podhoretz observed in his memoir
*Ex-Friends*, "would spend the rest of his life overcoming the stigma of
this reputation as a 'nice Jewish boy' by doing as an adult all the
hooliganish things he had failed to do in childhood and adolescence." After
a dutiful childhood, Mailer matriculated at Harvard in 1939. His parents had
made a "big sacrifice" to send their intense, studious son to the elite
institution, and he was "not going to let them down." Although he did some
writing in college, he majored in aeronautical engineering, graduating in
1942. In 1944, he married for the first of six times; and then from 1944
to 1946, he served with the U.S. Army in the Philippines and Japan.
http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/rogerkimball/2007/11/10/norman_mailer_a_dissenting_vie.php
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/2007-11-10-mailer_N.htm?csp=34
In a feisty career of highs and lows, Mailer wrote more than 30 books, won
two Pulitzer Prizes and managed to be mentioned in everything from the
TV show King of the Hill to John Lennon's Give Peace A Chance.
As a novelist, essayist and reporter, he took on celebrities, war, politics,
boxing, God, sex and perhaps his favorite theme, the battle between
good and evil.
....
He fathered nine children in six marriages. After an all-night party in
1960, he was arrested for stabbing his second wife, Adele, with a penknife.
She refused to press charges but got her revenge in her memoir,
*The Last Party*.
In a 2000 public TV documentary, Mailer said the stabbing "changed
everything in my life. It is the one act I can look back on and regret for
the rest of my life." He blamed his violence on "dark, ugly and competitive
streaks."
He told USA TODAY that "every woman, unlike every man -- and this is
where I get in trouble with the feminists -- is like a culture unto herself,
with all the roots and tendrils that make up a culture." Being married
six times, "is like living in six different countries, six cultures. So if
you've
spent eight years in Paris, then moved on, you don't say, 'I hate Paris.' "
His sixth marriage, to Norris Church, a painter, novelist and former model,
lasted the last 27 years of his life. (They were married in 1980.) "People
only get domisticated when they meet their equal," he said. The couple spent
most of the last decade in their waterfront home in Provincetown, leading
what he called "an abstemious life."
http://www.henrymakow.com/the_biggest_mistake_men_make.html
The biggest mistake a man can make is to put a woman on a pedestal and give
her power over him.
Men, no less than women, are suckers for romance and sex. Romantic love is
the ersatz religion of our pagan era, a form of idolatry based on sexual
infatuation. No one is worthy of adoration. No one is perfect.
A man might regard a woman as a means to an end rather than an end in
herself. A man needs a woman to create a home and family, for companionship,
emotional and practical support, intimacy and you name it.
A "means to an end" may sound harsh to some. But in fact, nature designed
women to make things happen. Mainly babies. My first girlfriend said,
"I want to be used."
A man might think of a wife as a race driver thinks of his car, a cowboy his
horse, a shepherd his dog, or a carpenter his tools. Men treasure what
belongs to them, serve them well, and are true.
A woman expresses her love by her devotion to husband and children. She is
loved for what she does, not for her appearance. Women (and men) earn love
by their deeds.
The romantic model of male-female love, based on lust and idealization of
beauty, does not work. A man who "looks up" to a woman is destined to remain
a child. On the other hand, a woman wants to look up to her husband.
Beauty is skin deep. There is no correlation between beauty and intelligence
or character. Women have used sex to control men from time immemorial
but they want men they can't control.
A man might also abandon the notion that there is only one special woman for
him. ...
What we are told is "progress" is really "progressive" only if you are
a satanist.
25 I applied mine heart to know, and to search, and to seek out wisdom, and
the reason [of things], and to know the wickedness of folly, even of
foolishness [and] madness:
26 And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart [is] snares and
nets, [and] her hands [as] bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her;
but the sinner shall be taken by her.
27 Behold, this have I found, saith the preacher, [counting] one by one, to
find out the account:
28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have
I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
(Old Testament | Ecclesiastes 7:25 - 28)
12 The words of a wise man's mouth [are] gracious; but the lips of a fool
will swallow up himself.
13 The beginning of the words of his mouth [is] foolishness: and the end of
his talk [is] mischievous madness.
14 A fool also is full of words: a man cannot tell what shall be; and what
shall be after him, who can tell him?
(Old Testament | Ecclesiastes 10:12 - 14)
15 For they who believe in change, or evolution as it is known among men,
shall be damned and burned at my coming, while those whose hearts are turned
even unto the Fathers according to the truth, which varies not, shall be
saved upon eternal principles, and obtain heaven which is eternal, and dwell
forever with them, the Fathers, where there is no clash in doctrine, saith
the Lord, for they, even they my Sons, see perfectly, even with the same
mind, and understanding, even eye to eye as it is written when the Lord
shall bring again Zion.
16 Thus the Fathers have been saved according to the same gospel which must
save thee, O man, and upon the same principles which are consistent, which
is the light, even the same light that enlighteneth thy eyes, saith the Most
High God, even the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Art Bulla, whom
ye know not, Yea but I know him, saith the Lord, and have ordained that
he shall bear rule over thee, forever and ever, as mine anointed.
17 While they, even they who believe in change, shall they not die, and be
dissolved back into the dust that they lose their identities?
18 For they are liars and are sons of the father of lies, even perdition,
and have denied the truth.
19 For they have denied the light and they have denied the spirit of
revelation found within my servant that they crucify the Lord God of Israel
afresh.
20 For this is denial of the Holy Ghost, yea, even thy sciences are
organized according to this blasphemy, and are based upon the lie
that all things which are eternal are denied by them, that there is
no absolute truth.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 159:15-20
165 And as respecting that theory concerning the origin of man upon the
earth in the which he is said to have sprung from orders that are called
lower, behold, it is false and cometh from that Evil One who goeth up and
down in the earth blinding the hearts of the children of men, in the which
they raise their heads in wickedness before me, and deny the Holy Ghost
and the Creator that made them.
166 Thus they become devils forever and ever, saith the Lord, and suffer
the wrath of the Lord in eternity and are cast into that lake of fire, and
their worm dieth not but they are consumed.
167 And the common man and woman is not guiltless before me in these things,
saith the Lord, for in their sloth they have allowed themselves to be
deceived, even in these things and by false religions.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 3:165-167
I was raised Creationist - Southern Baptist. I realized the adults
around me were all insane when I was 13. I haven't been in
church in 40 years, except for weddings.
~~Kermit, on Nov 9, 2007
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even
the garment spotted by the flesh.
(New Testament | Jude 1:22 - 23)
Kermit, a common man, recently wrote me, on Nov 7, 2007:
You have sacrificed your mind on the altar of warm fuzzies.
4 And now this calling and commandment give I unto you concerning all men--
5 That as many as shall come before my servants Sidney Rigdon and
Joseph Smith, Jun., embracing this calling and commandment, shall be
ordained and sent forth to preach the everlasting gospel among the nations--
6 Crying repentance, saying: Save yourselves from this untoward generation,
and come forth out of the fire, hating even the garments spotted with the
flesh.
7 And this commandment shall be given unto the elders of my church, that
every man which will embrace it with singleness of heart may be ordained and
sent forth, even as I have spoken.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 36:4 - 7)
4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God,
as [was] Aaron.
(New Testament | Hebrews 5:4)
So, Kermit, begin your solitary prayers and at least try to be spiritual
like Bob Dylan, not at all like the infidel John Lennon:
Robert Hilburn interviewed Dylan about the new direction in his music for
the Los Angeles Times. Hilburn's article, published November 23, 1980,
began: "Bob Dylan has finally confirmed in an interview what he's been
saying in his music for 18 months: He's a born-again Christian. Dylan said
he accepted Jesus Christ in his heart in 1978 after "a vision and feeling"
during which the room moved: "There was a presence in the room that
couldn't have been anybody but Jesus."[106]
Dylan's embrace of Christianity was unpopular with some of
his fans and fellow musicians.[107] Shortly before his December
1980 shooting, John Lennon recorded "Serve Yourself" in response
to Dylan's "Gotta Serve Somebody".[108]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Dylan
--
Jong Kim, Apostle of the One Mighty and Strong
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