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For USians "Noah's Ark: The True Story" on TV tonight. |
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
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16 Jan 2005 10:45:32 PM |
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<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
Was it new or a rerun? If it's new, I'll catch the repeat.
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17 Jan 2005 08:59:18 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s09mu0dcdids0prg6acqvhf5ahrjirgeg1@4ax.com...
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
Was it new or a rerun? If it's new, I'll catch the repeat.
Well,,. new-ish...from 2004 it says. Interesting enough, but pretty
much a rehash of what we already knew. Some dramatizations, computer
models, experts, "experts," historical info etc.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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17 Jan 2005 12:45:37 PM |
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Save your time for some more interesting fairy tales.
Here is the whole factual story from the Bible of Noah and the Arc.
The story of Noah and the flood is only one of many ridiculous biblical
tales with no authentication or plausibility of any kind. It is an
impossible story.
1. The largest boat ever built could not even come close to housing Noah,
his sons, wives and two of every type of animal on earth. And this was a
boat built of wood many thousands of years ago. There are 1.7 million KNOWN
species of animals on this planet.
And how many hundreds of millions of known species of insects, plants,
molds etc. on this planet?
2. Where did they house all of the new born during this ten month escapade?
3. In addition, the ship would have to carry a TEN MONTHS supply of food and
fresh water for the people and thousands of animals for them to survive.
How did they dispose of the hundreds of tons of manure? It must have been
one stinking ship!
4. Now according to the Bible the earth was flooded for ten months. This
would kill off all the vegetation. What did the animals eat for an
additional year or more after the flood subsided?
5. And according to this myth, Noah was also over 600 years old!
This is a grossly implausible tale that ranks with Santa Claus, The Easter
Bunny and The Tooth Fairy!
Genesis 6:6
6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was
filled with pain.
7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face
of the earth-men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and
birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them."
9 Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he
walked with God.
Genesis 7
1 The LORD then said to Noah, "Go into the ark, you and your whole family,
because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with you seven
[a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every
kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven of every kind
of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the
earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty days
and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living
creature I have made."
6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth. 7
And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark to
escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of
birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female,
came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And after
the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth.
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the
second month-on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and
the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth
forty days and forty nights.
13 On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together with
his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. 14 They had with
them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock according to
their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground according to its
kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with wings. 15 Pairs
of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah and
entered the ark. 16 The animals going in were male and female of every
living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD shut him in.
17 For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters
increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 The waters rose and
increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the
water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under
the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the
mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. [b] , [c] 21 Every living
thing that moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all
the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 Everything on
dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every living
thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped
from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.
Genesis 7:6 (New International Version)
6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth.
7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark to
escape the waters of the flood
Genesis 8
1 But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that
were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the waters
receded.
3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and
fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on
the mountains of Ararat.
5 The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first day
of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible
Genesis 9 God's Covenant With Noah
1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and
increase in number and fill the earth.
2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and
all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground,
and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.
3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you
the green plants, I now give you everything.
4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand
an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an
accounting for the life of his fellow man.
Before man learned how to create a fire, he had no choice but to eat raw
meat!
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Bill
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s09mu0dcdids0prg6acqvhf5ahrjirgeg1@4ax.com...
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
Was it new or a rerun? If it's new, I'll catch the repeat.
Well,,. new-ish...from 2004 it says. Interesting enough, but pretty
much a rehash of what we already knew. Some dramatizations, computer
models, experts, "experts," historical info etc.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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17 Jan 2005 08:13:55 PM |
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Bill wrote:
Save your time for some more interesting fairy tales.
Here is the whole factual story from the Bible of Noah and the Arc.
The story of Noah and the flood is only one of many ridiculous
biblical
tales with no authentication or plausibility of any kind. It is an
impossible story.
1. The largest boat ever built could not even come close to housing
Noah,
his sons, wives and two of every type of animal on earth. And this
was a
boat built of wood many thousands of years ago. There are 1.7 million
KNOWN
species of animals on this planet.
And how many hundreds of millions of known species of insects,
plants,
molds etc. on this planet?
2. Where did they house all of the new born during this ten month
escapade?
3. In addition, the ship would have to carry a TEN MONTHS supply of
food and
fresh water for the people and thousands of animals for them to
survive.
How did they dispose of the hundreds of tons of manure? It must have
been
one stinking ship!
4. Now according to the Bible the earth was flooded for ten months.
This
would kill off all the vegetation. What did the animals eat for an
additional year or more after the flood subsided?
5. And according to this myth, Noah was also over 600 years old!
This is a grossly implausible tale that ranks with Santa Claus, The
Easter
Bunny and The Tooth Fairy!
Genesis 6:6
6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his
heart was
filled with pain.
7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from
the face
of the earth-men and animals, and creatures that move along the
ground, and
birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them."
9 Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time,
and he
walked with God.
Genesis 7
1 The LORD then said to Noah, "Go into the ark, you and your whole
family,
because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 Take with
you seven
[a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of
every
kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven of
every kind
of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive
throughout the
earth. 4 Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth for forty
days
and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth every
living
creature I have made."
6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the
earth. 7
And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the
ark to
escape the waters of the flood. 8 Pairs of clean and unclean animals,
of
birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and
female,
came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah. 10 And
after
the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth.
11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day
of the
second month-on that day all the springs of the great deep burst
forth, and
the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the
earth
forty days and forty nights.
13 On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth,
together with
his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. 14 They
had with
them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock according
to
their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground according to
its
kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with wings. 15
Pairs
of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came to Noah
and
entered the ark. 16 The animals going in were male and female of
every
living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD shut him in.
17 For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the
waters
increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 The waters
rose and
increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of
the
water. 19 They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains
under
the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the
mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. [b] , [c] 21 Every
living
thing that moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild
animals, all
the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22
Everything on
dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 Every
living
thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were
wiped
from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.
24 The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.
Genesis 7:6 (New International Version)
6 Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the
earth.
7 And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the
ark to
escape the waters of the flood
Genesis 8
1 But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock
that
were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the
waters
receded.
3 The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the
hundred and
fifty days the water had gone down,
4 and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to
rest on
the mountains of Ararat.
5 The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the
first day
of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible
Genesis 9 God's Covenant With Noah
1 Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful
and
increase in number and fill the earth.
2 The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the
earth and
all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the
ground,
and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.
3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I
gave you
the green plants, I now give you everything.
4 "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.
5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will
demand
an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will
demand an
accounting for the life of his fellow man.
Before man learned how to create a fire, he had no choice but to eat
raw
meat!
-
Bill
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 23:45:32 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s09mu0dcdids0prg6acqvhf5ahrjirgeg1@4ax.com...
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
Was it new or a rerun? If it's new, I'll catch the repeat.
Well,,. new-ish...from 2004 it says. Interesting enough, but pretty
much a rehash of what we already knew. Some dramatizations,
computer
models, experts, "experts," historical info etc.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
Thanks for clarifying that. It seemed plausible before you spelled it
out for me. <smirk>
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17 Jan 2005 08:08:59 PM |
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In our last episode
<lJTGd.37020$w62.34808@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Bill lept out
of the bushes shouting:
Here is the whole factual story from the Bible of Noah and the Arc.
Actually, the whole *factual story is right here:
And that wraps that up. <G>
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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17 Jan 2005 01:24:28 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:45:37 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
Save your time for some more interesting fairy tales.
Here is the whole factual story from the Bible of Noah and the Arc.
Factual?
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:24:28 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:45:37 GMT, "Bill" <wmech@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
Save your time for some more interesting fairy tales.
Here is the whole factual story from the Bible of Noah and the Arc.
Factual?
Sounds like Bill struck an arc.....
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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17 Jan 2005 03:11:52 PM |
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wrote:
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
I saw it in the listings, but I figured the "Whose Line Is It Anyway?"
reruns would be more educational.
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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17 Jan 2005 11:26:37 AM |
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I'm a day late reading this, but my experience with The
Learning Channel's "reports" in the past doesn't give me cause
for optimism about this one. They tend to be breathlessly
amazed about "facts" that aren't well supported and cite
"proofs" that are obviously questionable.
--
Marvin
To reply, burn off fog.
<zamboni30000@knowshpamatyahoo.com> wrote in message
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On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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17 Jan 2005 01:34:47 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 11:26:37 -0600, "Marvin" <marvin2@fogstarband.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
I'm a day late reading this, but my experience with The
Learning Channel's "reports" in the past doesn't give me cause
for optimism about this one. They tend to be breathlessly
amazed about "facts" that aren't well supported and cite
"proofs" that are obviously questionable.
It wasn'ty that bad, considering. Of course, I watched the History
Channel's special on The DaVinci Code just beofre it, so my sights
were pretty low.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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17 Jan 2005 10:03:09 AM |
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In our last episode <s09mu0dcdids0prg6acqvhf5ahrjirgeg1@4ax.com>,
zamboni30000 lept out of the bushes shouting:
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
The Mislearning Channel is pretty much never worth a look.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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17 Jan 2005 03:13:01 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <s09mu0dcdids0prg6acqvhf5ahrjirgeg1@4ax.com>,
zamboni30000 lept out of the bushes shouting:
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
The Mislearning Channel is pretty much never worth a look.
Whatever happened to the days when they aired shows like "Connections"
and "The Human Animal"?
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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22 Jan 2005 06:19:28 PM |
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In article <352o2uF4hs61sU2@individual.net>, Tukla Ratte said...
Whatever happened to the days when they aired shows like "Connections"
and "The Human Animal"?
Did you ever attend a James Burke lecture? The amount of
esoteric historical information that man has at his fingertips
is staggering and humbling -- certainly it made up for that
white polyester leisure suit he wore when he was hosting
"Connections." :)
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22 Jan 2005 06:54:43 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:19:28 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <352o2uF4hs61sU2@individual.net>, Tukla Ratte said...
Whatever happened to the days when they aired shows like "Connections"
and "The Human Animal"?
Did you ever attend a James Burke lecture? The amount of
esoteric historical information that man has at his fingertips
is staggering and humbling -- certainly it made up for that
white polyester leisure suit he wore when he was hosting
"Connections." :)
He was guest speaker at a fund-raising dinner at KTEH San Jose.
Instead of giving a formal speech, he answered questions - and had an
impressively broad knowledge, which I could tell was deep in the areas
I knew, as well as being an excellent speaker.
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17 Jan 2005 04:41:13 PM |
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In our last episode <352o2uF4hs61sU2@individual.net>, Tukla Ratte lept out
of the bushes shouting:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <s09mu0dcdids0prg6acqvhf5ahrjirgeg1@4ax.com>,
zamboni30000 lept out of the bushes shouting:
On the Learning Channel at 9 Central time tonight (sunday).
Might be worth a look.
The Mislearning Channel is pretty much never worth a look.
Whatever happened to the days when they aired shows like "Connections" and
"The Human Animal"?
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The *HISTORY*
channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
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17 Jan 2005 07:55:44 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The *HISTORY*
channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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17 Jan 2005 08:26:34 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY*
channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
If you're talking abouty the two hour show that's been on more
than once this week, it mostly disproves the Bible Codes. It
also disproves the theory that Mary Magdelene got preggers
by JC and took his kid to France (which pretty much didn't
exist back then). It discusses the Knights Templar and lots
of interesting stuff. Of course, there were 'scholars' trying to
prove all this stuff was true. They failed, due to the evidence
presented by real scholars.
Watch before you knock.
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
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"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not
prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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18 Jan 2005 07:42:08 AM |
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In our last episode <0dWdncvpMOtN7nHcRVn-sA@comcast.com>, Michelle Malkin
lept out of the bushes shouting:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com...
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY*
channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
If you're talking abouty the two hour show that's been on more than once
this week, it mostly disproves the Bible Codes. It also disproves the
theory that Mary Magdelene got preggers by JC and took his kid to France
(which pretty much didn't exist back then). It discusses the Knights
Templar and lots of interesting stuff. Of course, there were 'scholars'
trying to prove all this stuff was true. They failed, due to the
evidence presented by real scholars.
Watch before you knock.
I watched the first "Bible codes" thing they did and parts (I couldn't
stomach the whole thing) of the second. The problem is "mostly disproves"
as opposed to "laughs at the silly people." It's that lazy "balance" which
so-called journalists are obsessed with of late. They may tilt toward the
skeptical side but just cannot resist treating even the most absurd ideas
with a "present both sides and let the viewer decide" approach. Which is
encouraging, in this case I firmly believe, actual mental illness.
The entire "Bible codes" phenomena is quite strikingly similar to symptoms
seen in people with obsessive-compulsive disorder. Lending these crank
ideas *any credence is a disservice to the ill and quite an irresponsible
act.
The "Bible codes" is a demonstrably absurd idea pushed by people with
questionable mental health. If any medium is going to bother with it at
all, it should be treated as such. Not given this "balance" crap.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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18 Jan 2005 11:49:12 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:42:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
The "Bible codes" is a demonstrably absurd idea pushed by people with
questionable mental health. If any medium is going to bother with it at
all, it should be treated as such. Not given this "balance" crap.
Maybe Penn and Teller will take it on some day.
--
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by
Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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18 Jan 2005 03:14:54 PM |
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In our last episode <70jqu0pdgmac6ahokf57uulapljh97v651@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:42:08 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
The "Bible codes" is a demonstrably absurd idea pushed by people with
questionable mental health. If any medium is going to bother with it at
all, it should be treated as such. Not given this "balance" crap.
Maybe Penn and Teller will take it on some day.
They put our entire body of mainstream "journalists" to shame...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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17 Jan 2005 08:24:02 PM |
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In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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18 Jan 2005 12:40:26 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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19 Jan 2005 01:57:37 AM |
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In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al Klein
lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible crap
and UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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19 Jan 2005 07:16:30 AM |
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In our last episode <jhachm-7AA60B.23573718012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al
Klein lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible crap and
UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
Why don't they just go all the way and show X-Files reruns?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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20 Jan 2005 12:28:47 AM |
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In article <hq2dnT_XrbDmwXPcRVn-pg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-7AA60B.23573718012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al
Klein lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible crap and
UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
Why don't they just go all the way and show X-Files reruns?
If the want to bring in the supernatural, why not have "Twilight Zone"
reruns? Most of those were at least entertaining.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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20 Jan 2005 08:27:43 AM |
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In our last episode <jhachm-AB05BB.22284719012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <hq2dnT_XrbDmwXPcRVn-pg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-7AA60B.23573718012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al
Klein lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible crap
and UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
Why don't they just go all the way and show X-Files reruns?
If the want to bring in the supernatural, why not have "Twilight Zone"
reruns? Most of those were at least entertaining.
I'm burnt out on TZ. I'm back to watching X-Files reruns when I'm on the
treadmill...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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21 Jan 2005 12:33:44 AM |
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In article <j9CdnVygT9c0I3LcRVn-3A@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-AB05BB.22284719012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <hq2dnT_XrbDmwXPcRVn-pg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-7AA60B.23573718012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>, Al
Klein lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap. The
*HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible crap
and UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
Why don't they just go all the way and show X-Files reruns?
If the want to bring in the supernatural, why not have "Twilight Zone"
reruns? Most of those were at least entertaining.
I'm burnt out on TZ. I'm back to watching X-Files reruns when I'm on the
treadmill...
If I get home in time, I'll watch the BBC news on PBS, then later I'll
check out the Newshour and watch it for a while if anything good is on.
Other than an occasional special like the one on the French Revolution
on the History Channel last Monday, that's about it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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21 Jan 2005 08:23:38 AM |
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In our last episode <jhachm-1E5D50.22334420012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lumbered into the room and mumbled:
In article <j9CdnVygT9c0I3LcRVn-3A@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-AB05BB.22284719012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <hq2dnT_XrbDmwXPcRVn-pg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-7AA60B.23573718012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>,
Al Klein lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap.
The *HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually
run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible
crap and UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
Why don't they just go all the way and show X-Files reruns?
If the want to bring in the supernatural, why not have "Twilight Zone"
reruns? Most of those were at least entertaining.
I'm burnt out on TZ. I'm back to watching X-Files reruns when I'm on the
treadmill...
If I get home in time, I'll watch the BBC news on PBS, then later I'll
check out the Newshour and watch it for a while if anything good is on.
Other than an occasional special like the one on the French Revolution on
the History Channel last Monday, that's about it.
Lately, if I watch more than a few minutes of news, I'll throw the set out
the window. It's safer to stick with X-Files reruns. <G>
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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22 Jan 2005 01:18:49 AM |
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In article <pYidnXWeMMqtkmzcRVn-vg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-1E5D50.22334420012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lumbered into the room and mumbled:
In article <j9CdnVygT9c0I3LcRVn-3A@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-AB05BB.22284719012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <hq2dnT_XrbDmwXPcRVn-pg@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode <jhachm-7AA60B.23573718012005@news.giganews.com>,
johac lept out of the bushes shouting:
In article <j0mqu0dj62mhr8e7ks1jhr3r33dseout04@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:24:02 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
In our last episode <74rou0l1n44rv1khc7sbek7ttnc7l1bpih@4ax.com>,
Al Klein lept out of the bushes shouting:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 16:41:13 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> said in alt.atheism:
Dunno. But all those channels are becoming torrents of crap.
The *HISTORY* channel was doing the "bible codes" recently...
At least that's a change from all the WWII stuff they usually
run.
They run out of history?
Histroy well documented with film, yes.
Of course, the French Revolution show last night was pretty good.
I caught that one too. It was good. Better than all of the bible
crap and UFO stuff that they have shown recently.
Why don't they just go all the way and show X-Files reruns?
If the want to bring in the supernatural, why not have "Twilight Zone"
reruns? Most of those were at least entertaining.
I'm burnt out on TZ. I'm back to watching X-Files reruns when I'm on the
treadmill...
If I get home in time, I'll watch the BBC news on PBS, then later I'll
check out the Newshour and watch it for a while if anything good is on.
Other than an occasional special like the one on the French Revolution on
the History Channel last Monday, that's about it.
Lately, if I watch more than a few minutes of news, I'll throw the set out
the window. It's safer to stick with X-Files reruns. <G>
In the past few months, I've had to resist the urge to throw something
heavy at the screen several times. I also have to remember not to swear
so loud with the windows open. the neighbors are starting to give me
dirty looks. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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22 Jan 2005 04:58:12 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:18:49 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In the past few months, I've had to resist the urge to throw something
heavy at the screen several times. I also have to remember not to swear
so loud with the windows open. the neighbors are starting to give me
dirty looks. :-)
I'll trade places with you - you can keep your windows open in
January?
</envy>
--
Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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