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User: "Atheism Crusher"
Date: 13 Sep 2004 09:48:46 PM
Object: Former Evolutionists sound off
As time permits, we will add more of these stories. Here's a small sampling
to kick off this section of our web site.
Emeritus Professor Tyndale John Rendle-Short - From (theistic)
evolution to creation
For Prof himself, educated at Cambridge and brought up with his father's
writings, theistic evolution (or its variant, progressive creationism) was
the natural direction for him to take. His odyssey to being chairman of one
of the most effective creation science outreach ministries in the world was
overseen by the Lord's hand in countless ways, both large and small.
Charlie Lieberts - (Chemist)
Charlie Liebert's idea of a good time back in New Jersey was to drink beer
with a bunch of buddies and mock Billy Graham on television. A
self-described "atheistic evolutionist," Liebert would ridicule the fact
that he and his friends were "sinners."
Dr. Gary Parker (Biologist)
"I was very consciously trying to get students to bend their religious
beliefs to evolution."
"Evolution was really my religion, a faith commitment and a complete
world-and-life view that organized everything else for me, and I got quite
emotional when evolution was challenged." Dr. Gary Parker's testimony as to
how he went from teaching evolution at the college level to being a leading
spokesman for Biblical creationism. - See the full story at From Evolution
to Creation: A Personal Testimony
Dr. D. Russell Humphreys (Physicist)
While neither of the two links we have for Dr. Humphreys states that he was
a former evolutionists and atheist, we know this to be true from a 1999
debate he participated in at Harvard University in which he stated these
things. See this interview with Dr. Humphreys at: Creation in the Physics
Lab.
Dr. Alan Galbraith (Watershed Science)
"I attended a creation seminar arranged by my pastor. I had only been a
Christian for some four years or so, and was still a convinced evolutionist.
I have to admit that I went with the attitude - what can this pastor, whose
last science course was probably in junior high school, tell me about the
area I know so much about?" See Recovery from evolution (Alan Galbraith
interview)
Dr. Donald Batten (Agriculturist)
As a young Christian in boarding high school I naively thought that 'science
was facts' and tried to believe in evolution and the Bible by accepting the
notion that 'God used evolution', days-are-ages, 'progressive creation',
etc.
Dr. David Catchpoole (Plant Physiologist)
Until his mid-20s, David was an ardent evolutionistic atheist, but a
personal crisis while working in Indonesia brought him to embrace
Christianity. However, for a decade he struggled to reconcile popular
evolutionary beliefs with the Bible...
Dr. A.E. Wilder-Smith (3 Doctorates and a NATO 3-star General)
The late Dr. Arthur E.Wilder-Smith, an honored scientist with an amazing
three earned doctorates. He held many distinguished positions. A former
Evolutionist, Dr. Wilder-Smith debated various leading scientists on the
subject throughout the world. In his opinion, the Evolution model did not
fit as well with the established facts of science as did the Creation model
of intelligent design. His background is referenced in footnote #4 at Do
real scientists believe in Creation? - ChristianAnswers.Net.
Dr. Robert V. Gentry - (Physicist)
According to modern evolutionary theory, our planet originated from the
accumulation of hot, gaseous material ejected from the sun, and the
Precambrian granites were among the first rocks to form during the cooling
process. University science courses convinced me that the evolution of the
earth was just a part of the cosmic evolution of the universe. As a result I
became a theistic evolutionist. Years later I began to re-examine the
scientific basis for that decision. My thoughts turned to the age of the
earth and the Precambrian granites. Were they really billions of years old?
See Dr. Gentry's Book Overview. See his web site at Earth Science
Associates.
--
Atheistfools.com
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User: "Elmer Bataitis"

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 13 Sep 2004 09:58:07 PM

From: "Atheism Crusher" <atheist@fools.com>

Gee, and not one was converted by the scientific evidence. They all were
converted by religious belief. Interesting.
.

User: "stoney stoney@ the.net"

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 14 Sep 2004 01:43:37 PM
Atheism Crusher wrote:
drivel personifying its terminal ignorance and dishonesty
There's no such thing as an 'evolutionist.'
Do the world a favour and immediately remove yourself from the gene
pool.
[]
.
User: "Az_"

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 15 Sep 2004 08:27:30 AM
stoney <stoney@ the.net> wrote in message news:<10keeuq1rsauv39@corp.supernews.com>...

Atheism Crusher wrote:

drivel personifying its terminal ignorance and dishonesty

There's no such thing as an 'evolutionist.'

Do the world a favour and immediately remove yourself from the gene
pool.

[]

Come on. We have seen his eloquence here. He obviously has already
taken himself out of the gene pool. Do you honestly think there is a
chance that he will reproduce?
Now if we could only get him to take himself out of the net pool.
.
User: "fencingsax"

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 17 Sep 2004 02:06:43 PM
(Az_) wrote in message news:<af51c65a.0409150527.13ced84@posting.google.com>...

stoney <stoney@ the.net> wrote in message news:<10keeuq1rsauv39@corp.supernews.com>...

Atheism Crusher wrote:

drivel personifying its terminal ignorance and dishonesty

There's no such thing as an 'evolutionist.'

Do the world a favour and immediately remove yourself from the gene
pool.

[]


Come on. We have seen his eloquence here. He obviously has already
taken himself out of the gene pool. Do you honestly think there is a
chance that he will reproduce?

That makes me think of "the professor and the madman" *shiver*


Now if we could only get him to take himself out of the net pool.

.

User: ""

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 15 Sep 2004 10:43:22 PM
On 15 Sep 2004 06:27:30 -0700,
(Az_) wrote:

stoney <stoney@ the.net> wrote in message news:<10keeuq1rsauv39@corp.supernews.com>...

Atheism Crusher wrote:

drivel personifying its terminal ignorance and dishonesty

There's no such thing as an 'evolutionist.'

Do the world a favour and immediately remove yourself from the gene
pool.

[]


Come on. We have seen his eloquence here. He obviously has already
taken himself out of the gene pool. Do you honestly think there is a
chance that he will reproduce?

Sadly enough, yes. After all there's myraid of females of equal or
lesser...errrrr.....neuronically challenged.

Now if we could only get him to take himself out of the net pool.

Point.
.



User: "Ferrous Patella"

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 14 Sep 2004 11:20:04 AM
news:h_s1d.1063$DT4.71010@news.uswest.net by "Atheism Crusher"
<atheist@fools.com>:
These guys weren't real evolutionists. If they were true to their
teachings, they would have never converted. Oh they may have thought they
were evolutionists but someone must have taught them wrong.

As time permits, we will add more of these stories. Here's a small
sampling to kick off this section of our web site.

Emeritus Professor Tyndale John Rendle-Short - From (theistic)
evolution to creation
For Prof himself, educated at Cambridge and brought up with his
father's writings, theistic evolution (or its variant, progressive
creationism) was the natural direction for him to take. His odyssey to
being chairman of one of the most effective creation science outreach
ministries in the world was overseen by the Lord's hand in countless
ways, both large and small.

Charlie Lieberts - (Chemist)
Charlie Liebert's idea of a good time back in New Jersey was to drink
beer with a bunch of buddies and mock Billy Graham on television. A
self-described "atheistic evolutionist," Liebert would ridicule the
fact that he and his friends were "sinners."

Dr. Gary Parker (Biologist)
"I was very consciously trying to get students to bend their religious
beliefs to evolution."

"Evolution was really my religion, a faith commitment and a complete
world-and-life view that organized everything else for me, and I got
quite emotional when evolution was challenged." Dr. Gary Parker's
testimony as to how he went from teaching evolution at the college
level to being a leading spokesman for Biblical creationism. - See the
full story at From Evolution to Creation: A Personal Testimony

Dr. D. Russell Humphreys (Physicist)
While neither of the two links we have for Dr. Humphreys states that
he was a former evolutionists and atheist, we know this to be true
from a 1999 debate he participated in at Harvard University in which
he stated these things. See this interview with Dr. Humphreys at:
Creation in the Physics Lab.

Dr. Alan Galbraith (Watershed Science)
"I attended a creation seminar arranged by my pastor. I had only been
a Christian for some four years or so, and was still a convinced
evolutionist. I have to admit that I went with the attitude - what can
this pastor, whose last science course was probably in junior high
school, tell me about the area I know so much about?" See Recovery
from evolution (Alan Galbraith interview)

Dr. Donald Batten (Agriculturist)
As a young Christian in boarding high school I naively thought that
'science was facts' and tried to believe in evolution and the Bible by
accepting the notion that 'God used evolution', days-are-ages,
'progressive creation', etc.

Dr. David Catchpoole (Plant Physiologist)
Until his mid-20s, David was an ardent evolutionistic atheist, but a
personal crisis while working in Indonesia brought him to embrace
Christianity. However, for a decade he struggled to reconcile popular
evolutionary beliefs with the Bible...

Dr. A.E. Wilder-Smith (3 Doctorates and a NATO 3-star General)
The late Dr. Arthur E.Wilder-Smith, an honored scientist with an
amazing three earned doctorates. He held many distinguished positions.
A former Evolutionist, Dr. Wilder-Smith debated various leading
scientists on the subject throughout the world. In his opinion, the
Evolution model did not fit as well with the established facts of
science as did the Creation model of intelligent design. His
background is referenced in footnote #4 at Do real scientists believe
in Creation? - ChristianAnswers.Net.

Dr. Robert V. Gentry - (Physicist)
According to modern evolutionary theory, our planet originated from
the accumulation of hot, gaseous material ejected from the sun, and
the Precambrian granites were among the first rocks to form during the
cooling process. University science courses convinced me that the
evolution of the earth was just a part of the cosmic evolution of the
universe. As a result I became a theistic evolutionist. Years later I
began to re-examine the scientific basis for that decision. My
thoughts turned to the age of the earth and the Precambrian granites.
Were they really billions of years old? See Dr. Gentry's Book
Overview. See his web site at Earth Science Associates.


--
Ferrous Patella (Homo gerardii)
"If the universe is so finely tuned, how come I can't sing worth a darn?"
-Cheezits
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Former Evolutionists sound off 22 Sep 2004 12:17:52 AM
Ferrous Patella wrote:

news:h_s1d.1063$DT4.71010@news.uswest.net by "Atheism Crusher"
<atheist@fools.com>:

These guys weren't real evolutionists. If they were true to their
teachings, they would have never converted. Oh they may have thought they
were evolutionists but someone must have taught them wrong.

I keep telling AC, it's not possible to crush any thing, any one, with stuff
from the bottom of his empty barrel!



As time permits, we will add more of these stories. Here's a small
sampling to kick off this section of our web site.

Emeritus Professor Tyndale John Rendle-Short - From (theistic)
evolution to creation
For Prof himself, educated at Cambridge and brought up with his
father's writings, theistic evolution (or its variant, progressive
creationism) was the natural direction for him to take. His odyssey to
being chairman of one of the most effective creation science outreach
ministries in the world was overseen by the Lord's hand in countless
ways, both large and small.

Charlie Lieberts - (Chemist)
Charlie Liebert's idea of a good time back in New Jersey was to drink
beer with a bunch of buddies and mock Billy Graham on television. A
self-described "atheistic evolutionist," Liebert would ridicule the
fact that he and his friends were "sinners."

Dr. Gary Parker (Biologist)
"I was very consciously trying to get students to bend their religious
beliefs to evolution."

"Evolution was really my religion, a faith commitment and a complete
world-and-life view that organized everything else for me, and I got
quite emotional when evolution was challenged." Dr. Gary Parker's
testimony as to how he went from teaching evolution at the college
level to being a leading spokesman for Biblical creationism. - See the
full story at From Evolution to Creation: A Personal Testimony

Dr. D. Russell Humphreys (Physicist)
While neither of the two links we have for Dr. Humphreys states that
he was a former evolutionists and atheist, we know this to be true
from a 1999 debate he participated in at Harvard University in which
he stated these things. See this interview with Dr. Humphreys at:
Creation in the Physics Lab.

Dr. Alan Galbraith (Watershed Science)
"I attended a creation seminar arranged by my pastor. I had only been
a Christian for some four years or so, and was still a convinced
evolutionist. I have to admit that I went with the attitude - what can
this pastor, whose last science course was probably in junior high
school, tell me about the area I know so much about?" See Recovery
from evolution (Alan Galbraith interview)

Dr. Donald Batten (Agriculturist)
As a young Christian in boarding high school I naively thought that
'science was facts' and tried to believe in evolution and the Bible by
accepting the notion that 'God used evolution', days-are-ages,
'progressive creation', etc.

Dr. David Catchpoole (Plant Physiologist)
Until his mid-20s, David was an ardent evolutionistic atheist, but a
personal crisis while working in Indonesia brought him to embrace
Christianity. However, for a decade he struggled to reconcile popular
evolutionary beliefs with the Bible...

Dr. A.E. Wilder-Smith (3 Doctorates and a NATO 3-star General)
The late Dr. Arthur E.Wilder-Smith, an honored scientist with an
amazing three earned doctorates. He held many distinguished positions.
A former Evolutionist, Dr. Wilder-Smith debated various leading
scientists on the subject throughout the world. In his opinion, the
Evolution model did not fit as well with the established facts of
science as did the Creation model of intelligent design. His
background is referenced in footnote #4 at Do real scientists believe
in Creation? - ChristianAnswers.Net.

Dr. Robert V. Gentry - (Physicist)
According to modern evolutionary theory, our planet originated from
the accumulation of hot, gaseous material ejected from the sun, and
the Precambrian granites were among the first rocks to form during the
cooling process. University science courses convinced me that the
evolution of the earth was just a part of the cosmic evolution of the
universe. As a result I became a theistic evolutionist. Years later I
began to re-examine the scientific basis for that decision. My
thoughts turned to the age of the earth and the Precambrian granites.
Were they really billions of years old? See Dr. Gentry's Book
Overview. See his web site at Earth Science Associates.



--
Ferrous Patella (Homo gerardii)

"If the universe is so finely tuned, how come I can't sing worth a darn?"
-Cheezits

.



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