Religions > Atheism > Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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15 Mar 2007 09:50:15 AM |
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Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
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EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
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| User: "Roy Culley" |
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| Title: Re: Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
15 Mar 2007 02:53:29 PM |
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<oqmiv2h07q0tdok8mace4k0ss7rmmcmcra@4ax.com>,
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> writes:
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000
al Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure
at only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
More to the point there were little to no al Qaeda fighters in Iraq
until Bush and Blair's illegal invasion and the instability that now
exists in Iraq. The invasion has done nothing but fuel terrorism. The
money spent on this illegal invasion, if spent more wisely, may well
have reduced terrorism. Hundred's of billions of dollars spent on
making the world a far less safer place.
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| User: "DH" |
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| Title: Re: Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
15 Mar 2007 10:03:16 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:oqmiv2h07q0tdok8mace4k0ss7rmmcmcra@4ax.com...
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
Yang
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3196 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
In a sense, however, Fred may be right. Al-Qaeda is certainly going to
exploit our idiocy in so far as they are able and their influence and
encouragement may well extend beyond the bare numbers of foreign fighters.
They will probably also seek to use networks of Iraqi extended families to
establish more cells in the US and Europe. We've killed enough innocent
civilians (and civilians of dubious guilt) to motivate people to cooperate
with Al-Qaeda's goals.
Iraqis are more Westernized and sophisticated than the Afghanis and
Northwestern Pakistanis and so will have greater ease moving in the West.
We've given Al-Qaeda an opportunity to gather more capable and better
motivated recruits.
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
True.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: YANG's Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
16 Mar 2007 03:22:26 PM |
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"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in
news:45f953b7$0$16366$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:oqmiv2h07q0tdok8mace4k0ss7rmmcmcra@4ax.com...
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the
killing, probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
Notice the misdirection that YANG employs here: the claim that I cited
was that al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the
killing. This is well documented - the al Qaeda affiliated groups are by
far the better financed and use the most sophisticated weapons and
tactics.
YANG tries to refute that by "proving" that there are less than 2000
foreign fighters, or that that number of foreigners couldn't take over a
country of 26 million people.
I didn't say that they could.
YANG is still a liar and a fraud.
In a sense, however, Fred may be right. Al-Qaeda is certainly going
to exploit our idiocy in so far as they are able and their influence
and encouragement may well extend beyond the bare numbers of foreign
fighters.
They will probably also seek to use networks of Iraqi extended
families to establish more cells in the US and Europe. We've killed
enough innocent civilians (and civilians of dubious guilt) to motivate
people to cooperate with Al-Qaeda's goals.
Actually, most of the Sunni and ALL of the Shi'ites in Iraq are sick and
tired of the al Qaeda types.
Iraqis are more Westernized and sophisticated than the Afghanis and
Northwestern Pakistanis and so will have greater ease moving in the
West. We've given Al-Qaeda an opportunity to gather more capable and
better motivated recruits.
No, we haven't. We've given them an opportunity to fool more and more
gullible liberals like you with their propaganda.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The one thing we must not do is to confuse the real country of Iraq,
where there is a real war, a real population, and a real obligation to
protect them, with the parallel-universe "quagmire Iraq" of popular
imagination."
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Chicken FRED STONE Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
17 Mar 2007 08:48:19 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:22:26 +0100 (CET), Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in
news:45f953b7$0$16366$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:oqmiv2h07q0tdok8mace4k0ss7rmmcmcra@4ax.com...
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the
killing, probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
Notice the misdirection that YANG employs here: the claim that I cited
was that al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the
killing. This is well documented - the al Qaeda affiliated groups are by
far the better financed and use the most sophisticated weapons and
tactics.
Where is this "document"? Oh that's right, you don't have any.
Why are you so dishonest?
YANG tries to refute that by "proving" that there are less than 2000
foreign fighters, or that that number of foreigners couldn't take over a
country of 26 million people.
I didn't say that they could.
YANG is still a liar and a fraud.
In a sense, however, Fred may be right. Al-Qaeda is certainly going
to exploit our idiocy in so far as they are able and their influence
and encouragement may well extend beyond the bare numbers of foreign
fighters.
They will probably also seek to use networks of Iraqi extended
families to establish more cells in the US and Europe. We've killed
enough innocent civilians (and civilians of dubious guilt) to motivate
people to cooperate with Al-Qaeda's goals.
Actually, most of the Sunni and ALL of the Shi'ites in Iraq are sick and
tired of the al Qaeda types.
Iraqis are more Westernized and sophisticated than the Afghanis and
Northwestern Pakistanis and so will have greater ease moving in the
West. We've given Al-Qaeda an opportunity to gather more capable and
better motivated recruits.
No, we haven't. We've given them an opportunity to fool more and more
gullible liberals like you with their propaganda.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3215 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
15 Mar 2007 12:13:24 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:oqmiv2h07q0tdok8mace4k0ss7rmmcmcra@4ax.com...
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Damn, I hate that you're making me look like a Fred Stone ditto head, but
your claim is a non sequitur. The number of insurgents does not necessarily
directly correlate to the number of attacks/deaths they are responsible for.
Even if there are only 200 AQII insurgents, they could still be responsible
for most of the killings. It's not likely, but your post does little to
refute Fredo's claim.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
Well, 19 motherfuckers have caused a sharp erosion in personal liberty and
financial resources of a country of 300 million. Hardly anyone would have
believed that before 9/11, but there ya go.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
15 Mar 2007 10:57:22 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:13:24 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:oqmiv2h07q0tdok8mace4k0ss7rmmcmcra@4ax.com...
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Damn, I hate that you're making me look like a Fred Stone ditto head, but
your claim is a non sequitur. The number of insurgents does not necessarily
directly correlate to the number of attacks/deaths they are responsible for.
Even if there are only 200 AQII insurgents, they could still be responsible
for most of the killings. It's not likely, but your post does little to
refute Fredo's claim.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
Well, 19 motherfuckers have caused a sharp erosion in personal liberty and
financial resources of a country of 300 million. Hardly anyone would have
believed that before 9/11, but there ya go.
While the 19 hijackers killed a lot of people, they did it in one
strike. There are 100-200 independent attacks per day in Iraq, in
different places. It is very very unlike all these attacks were done
by foreign fighters.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3206 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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| User: "Syd M." |
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| Title: Re: Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
15 Mar 2007 11:44:14 AM |
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On Mar 15, 10:50 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
And then, of course, is all that talk of Iran aiding the insurgents.
More tall tales with little proof..
PDW
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| User: "° Shanghai Lil °" |
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| Title: Re: Fred Stone Lie of the Day: Al Qaeda 50% of the Insurgency in Iraq |
15 Mar 2007 12:11:47 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
"al Qaeda in Iraq are responsible for the greater part of the killing,
probably upwards of fifty percent."
-Fred Stone 3/14/2007
ROTFLMAO!
Fred "cheney" Stoner is more absurd than Baghdad Bob ...!
And his proof? Oh that's right he has none.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=7353
The Myth of an al Qaeda Takeover of Iraq
"Even the U.S. government concedes that there are fewer than 2,000 al
Qaeda fighters in Iraq, and the Iraq Study Group put the figure at
only 1,300.
Indeed, foreign fighters make up a relatively small component of the
Sunni insurgency against the U.S. and British occupation forces. It
strains credulity to imagine 1,300 fighters (and foreigners at that)
dominating a country of 26 million people."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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