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18 Apr 2006 08:49:49 AM |
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'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth |
'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/4/172006c.asp
Agape Press - Tupelo,MS,USA
[excerpt]
'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth
By Allie Martin
April 17, 2006
(AgapePress) - Concerned Christians will gather in a Connecticut community
on Tuesday for a rally to address the political, cultural, and religious
impact of the so-called "separation of church and state."
The "Celebration of Freedom Rally" takes place in Danbury, which is where
the phrase "separation of church and state" originated in a letter penned
by President Thomas Jefferson in 1801 in response to Baptists' fear that
the U.S. government was going to establish the Congregationalist Church as
the official denomination of the new nation. Jefferson's reference stated
that the government should have no say in the affairs of the church, and --
contrary to popular myth -- was never intended to keep God out of
government.
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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| User: "fred" |
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| Title: Re: 'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth; fails 10th Amendment test |
18 Apr 2006 09:17:39 PM |
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wrote:
'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/4/172006c.asp
Agape Press - Tupelo,MS,USA
[excerpt]
'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth
By Allie Martin
April 17, 2006
(AgapePress) - Concerned Christians will gather in a Connecticut community
on Tuesday for a rally to address the political, cultural, and religious
impact of the so-called "separation of church and state."
The "Celebration of Freedom Rally" takes place in Danbury, which is where
the phrase "separation of church and state" originated in a letter penned
by President Thomas Jefferson in 1801 in response to Baptists' fear that
the U.S. government was going to establish the Congregationalist Church as
the official denomination of the new nation. Jefferson's reference stated
that the government should have no say in the affairs of the church, and =
--
contrary to popular myth -- was never intended to keep God out of
government.
The referenced article uses the constitutionally ignorant term "the
government". The writer has failed to recognize that the Founding
Christians made major distinctions between the powers of the federal
and state governments. This is evidenced by the fact that Jefferson
noted that the Founding Christians wrote the 1st and 10th Amendments to
delegate government power to legislate religion uniquely to the state
governments:
"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also
expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that
'the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively
or to the people': and that no power over the freedom of religion,
freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US.
by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful
powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the
states or the people..." --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions,
1798.
1st Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment
of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the
freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people
peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of
grievances.
10th Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the
States respectively, or to the people.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why =
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisne=
r,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: 'Freedom Rally' to Dispel Separation Myth; fails 10th Amendment test |
19 Apr 2006 12:18:08 AM |
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On 18 Apr 2006 19:17:39 -0700, "fred"
<clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
The referenced article uses the constitutionally ignorant term "the
government". The writer has failed to recognize that the Founding
Christians made major distinctions between the powers of the federal
and state governments.
No such thing as the "founding christians"
State government is inferior to federal government
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