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20 Mar 2005 09:07:05 PM |
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From Jesus to Christ |
From Jesus to Christ
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244999/site/newsweek/
How did a Jewish prophet come to be seen as the Christian savior? The
epic story of the empty tomb, the early battles and the making of a
great faith.
By Jon Meacham
Newsweek
March 28 issue - The story, it seemed, was over. Convicted of sedition,
condemned to death by crucifixion, nailed to a cross on a hill called
Golgotha, Jesus of Nazareth had endured all that he could. According to
Mark, the earliest Gospel, Jesus, suffering and approaching the end,
repeated a verse of the 22nd Psalm, a passage familiar to first-century
Jewish ears: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" There was a
final, wordless cry. And then silence.
Jon Meacham
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/9695c16b201e1336
Jesus
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/fcd1417944f9828d
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| User: "rj" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
20 Mar 2005 11:11:54 PM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1111352825.339505.50010
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
From Jesus to Christ
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244999/site/newsweek/
How did a Jewish prophet come to be seen as the Christian savior? The
epic story of the empty tomb, the early battles and the making of a
great faith.
By Jon Meacham
Newsweek
March 28 issue - The story, it seemed, was over. Convicted of sedition,
condemned to death by crucifixion, nailed to a cross on a hill called
Golgotha, Jesus of Nazareth had endured all that he could. According to
Mark, the earliest Gospel, Jesus, suffering and approaching the end,
repeated a verse of the 22nd Psalm, a passage familiar to first-century
Jewish ears: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" There was a
final, wordless cry. And then silence.
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never forsaken,
because he was never there to begin with.
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about you or
me?
Nice God you have there Xtian. Keep him away from me. He is a psychotic
killer that takes pleasure from misery and killing.
rj
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
21 Mar 2005 11:42:30 PM |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:11:54 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never forsaken,
because he was never there to begin with.
Yeah, sure bubba.
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about you or
me?
Jesus is God become man. His reasons for what he did are his reasons. They are
beyond the comprehension of you and me.
Nice God you have there Xtian. Keep him away from me. He is a psychotic
killer that takes pleasure from misery and killing.
rj
Oh, not to worry. You're clearly establishing that you prefer to spend all
eternity with the white hot tips of the flames of hell tickling at the cheeks of
your ***** rather than all eternity in the love and Glory of God.
Just think - what you have now is the best you will ever have for all eternity.
duke
*****
Acts 2
38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive
the gift of the Holy Spirit".
*****
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| User: "wmech" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
22 Mar 2005 12:40:35 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:komu31tara5j8qe8b49jtanfshnjjvihek@4ax.com...
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:11:54 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never forsaken,
because he was never there to begin with.
Yeah, sure bubba.
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about you
or
me?
Jesus is God become man. His reasons for what he did are his reasons.
They are
beyond the comprehension of you and me.
In other words, you don't now what you are talking about!
Nice God you have there Xtian. Keep him away from me. He is a psychotic
killer that takes pleasure from misery and killing.
rj
Oh, not to worry. You're clearly establishing that you prefer to spend
all
eternity with the white hot tips of the flames of hell tickling at the
cheeks of
your ***** rather than all eternity in the love and Glory of God.
Just think - what you have now is the best you will ever have for all
eternity.
duke
*****
Acts 2
38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive
the gift of the Holy Spirit".
*****
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| User: "rj" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
22 Mar 2005 12:23:25 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in
news:komu31tara5j8qe8b49jtanfshnjjvihek@4ax.com:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 23:11:54 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never
forsaken, because he was never there to begin with.
Yeah, sure bubba.
The name is rj.
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about you
or me?
Jesus is God become man. His reasons for what he did are his reasons.
They are beyond the comprehension of you and me.
He never was God. To assert that he was is patently ridiculous. On the
other hand consider Mary Magdeline, the one who Jesus loved more than
anyone else. How flattering would it be to be picked by God to have sex
with. I wonder if he did a perfect job when poking her in the whiskers?
Would Jesus children be Gods too? Jesus kissed Mary quite passionatly. I
wonder if he was as good a kisser as he should have been?
Nice God you have there Xtian. Keep him away from me. He is a
psychotic killer that takes pleasure from misery and killing.
rj
Oh, not to worry. You're clearly establishing that you prefer to spend
all eternity with the white hot tips of the flames of hell tickling at
the cheeks of your ***** rather than all eternity in the love and Glory of
God.
Just think - what you have now is the best you will ever have for all
eternity.
duke
This is so blatent that I think dikegumbo is a troll. I wonder what I
could say to the alleged fundie that would really get him twisted. Any
ideas?
rj
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
22 Mar 2005 11:55:23 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 00:23:25 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never
forsaken, because he was never there to begin with.
Yeah, sure bubba.
The name is rj.
My answer is still - "yeah, sure bubba".
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about you
or me?
Jesus is God become man. His reasons for what he did are his reasons.
They are beyond the comprehension of you and me.
He never was God. To assert that he was is patently ridiculous.
Yeah, sure bubba. And how do you know this?
On the
other hand consider Mary Magdeline, the one who Jesus loved more than
anyone else.
Wrong, bubba, he loved the Father more than anyone else.
This is so blatent that I think dikegumbo is a troll. I wonder what I
could say to the alleged fundie that would really get him twisted. Any
ideas?
You're not bright enough to think for yourself, bubba?
duke
*****
Acts 2
38Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every
one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive
the gift of the Holy Spirit".
*****
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| User: "maff" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
21 Mar 2005 09:21:03 AM |
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rj wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1111352825.339505.50010
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
From Jesus to Christ
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244999/site/newsweek/
How did a Jewish prophet come to be seen as the Christian savior?
The
epic story of the empty tomb, the early battles and the making of a
great faith.
By Jon Meacham
Newsweek
March 28 issue - The story, it seemed, was over. Convicted of
sedition,
condemned to death by crucifixion, nailed to a cross on a hill
called
Golgotha, Jesus of Nazareth had endured all that he could.
According to
Mark, the earliest Gospel, Jesus, suffering and approaching the
end,
repeated a verse of the 22nd Psalm, a passage familiar to
first-century
Jewish ears: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" There was
a
final, wordless cry. And then silence.
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never
forsaken,
because he was never there to begin with.
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about
you or
me?
Nice God you have there Xtian. Keep him away from me. He is a
psychotic
killer that takes pleasure from misery and killing.
Huh? I'm an atheist.
rj
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| User: "rj" |
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| Title: Re: From Jesus to Christ |
21 Mar 2005 02:03:30 PM |
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"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1111396863.090577.6540
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
rj wrote:
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1111352825.339505.50010
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
From Jesus to Christ
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244999/site/newsweek/
How did a Jewish prophet come to be seen as the Christian savior?
The
epic story of the empty tomb, the early battles and the making of a
great faith.
By Jon Meacham
Newsweek
March 28 issue - The story, it seemed, was over. Convicted of
sedition,
condemned to death by crucifixion, nailed to a cross on a hill
called
Golgotha, Jesus of Nazareth had endured all that he could.
According to
Mark, the earliest Gospel, Jesus, suffering and approaching the
end,
repeated a verse of the 22nd Psalm, a passage familiar to
first-century
Jewish ears: "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" There was
a
final, wordless cry. And then silence.
Do you want the answer Jesus? There is no God. You were never
forsaken,
because he was never there to begin with.
Put another way, If God didn't care about his own son and let him be
tortured and killed, what makes you think he would give a damn about
you or
me?
Nice God you have there Xtian. Keep him away from me. He is a
psychotic
killer that takes pleasure from misery and killing.
Huh? I'm an atheist.
rj
That was not directed at you. It was sort of a rhetorical thing.
rj
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