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From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples, although bishops are unsure whether to call the unions
marriage.
"We are prepared to carry out partnerships for homosexuals that have
the force of law," said Bishop Claes-Bertil Ytterberg of the church's
V=E4ster=E5s diocese.
Ytterberg said the decision will make the church the first major
denomination in the world to allow full gay church marriage in
practice. However, the United Church of Canada, the second largest
Canadian denomination, already carries out gay marriages.
An official government report proposing changes to marriage laws is to
be presented next week. The report is expected to call for all
couples, gay or straight, to be given equal marriage rights.
Under the system proposed in the report, churches would retain the
right to perform marriages but each individual priest would be forced
to seek a marriage licence independently. Today's move means that the
church is accepting the proposals.
Gay couples can currently have civil partnerships blessed in church,
but the partnerships' legal force is provided by civil ceremonies.
The question of gay marriage is controversial in the Church of Sweden,
a Lutheran church. But Claes-Bertil Ytterberg, speaking for the
church's governing body, said it was important that the church takes a
clear line.
"It is important that the Church of Sweden can be ecumenically weighty
by being one step ahead and showing potential pathways. We are first
in this context," he said.
Ytterberg said, however, that the church will not use the term
'marriage' ('=E4ktenskap' in Swedish) to describe the unions, keeping it
reserved for unions between a man and a woman.
"The word 'marriage' is so closely linked by tradition to the
relationship between a man and a woman," he said. He said he would
ideally like the marriage laws to be renamed 'cohabitation laws'.
"I admit that this is not a simple message to communicate," he said.
The publication of the official report will be followed by a period of
consultation with affected groups before a bill is drawn up and
presented to parliament.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
18 Mar 2007 07:54:43 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote in
news:1174263981.861981.219310@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
Good for them.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.
-Goethe
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| User: "Stein R" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
19 Mar 2007 12:21:26 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote in
news:1174263981.861981.219310@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples, although bishops are unsure whether to call the unions
marriage.
About time. It is Christ we celebrate as God's son, not Paul of Tarsus.
The bible is pretty clear about how Christ reacted to pompous self
righteous Pharisees like you, always eager to pass judgement on others:
"Let he who is without sin throw the first stone", "Judge not, that you
be not judged" and "And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s
eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?".
Now get lost, "Trumpet", before the good Lord sees fit to judge you as
you judge others. I have a feeling that it might not be a pretty sight.
Stein R
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
19 Mar 2007 12:43:29 AM |
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In article <1174263981.861981.219310@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples
Good for Sweden!
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John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
19 Mar 2007 12:51:26 AM |
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On Mar 18, 9:43 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1174263981.861981.219...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples
Good for Sweden!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
Wrong religion.
Most Swedes are Lutheran (or increasingly, moslem immigrants).
Some Lutheran hierarchy (Synod) decides what Swedish gays might be
'married' - or not.
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| User: "Martin" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay WeddingsIn Church |
19 Mar 2007 01:49:42 AM |
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wrote:
On Mar 18, 9:43 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1174263981.861981.219...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples
Good for Sweden!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
Wrong religion.
Most Swedes are Lutheran (or increasingly, moslem immigrants).
Some Lutheran hierarchy (Synod) decides what Swedish gays might be
'married' - or not.
no, the laws of the country decide.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
19 Mar 2007 06:08:16 PM |
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In article <1174283486.070008.30260@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
On Mar 18, 9:43 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1174263981.861981.219...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples
Good for Sweden!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
Wrong religion.
Most Swedes are Lutheran (or increasingly, moslem immigrants).
Some Lutheran hierarchy (Synod) decides what Swedish gays might be
'married' - or not.
That's just my sig.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
18 Mar 2007 08:23:50 PM |
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On 18 Mar 2007 17:26:21 -0700 there was an Ancient "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
Huzzah!
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: From Progressive Europe: Church Of Sweden Will Allow Gay Weddings In Church |
18 Mar 2007 09:32:45 PM |
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On 18 Mar 2007 17:26:21 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
Three cheers for Sweden!
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "" |
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19 Mar 2007 12:30:29 AM |
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On Mar 18, 4:26 pm, "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples, although bishops are unsure whether to call the unions
marriage.
"We are prepared to carry out partnerships for homosexuals that have
the force of law," said Bishop Claes-Bertil Ytterberg of the church's
V=E4ster=E5s diocese.
Ytterberg said the decision will make the church the first major
denomination in the world to allow full gay church marriage in
practice. However, the United Church of Canada, the second largest
Canadian denomination, already carries out gay marriages.
An official government report proposing changes to marriage laws is to
be presented next week. The report is expected to call for all
couples, gay or straight, to be given equal marriage rights.
Under the system proposed in the report, churches would retain the
right to perform marriages but each individual priest would be forced
to seek a marriage licence independently. Today's move means that the
church is accepting the proposals.
Gay couples can currently have civil partnerships blessed in church,
but the partnerships' legal force is provided by civil ceremonies.
The question of gay marriage is controversial in the Church of Sweden,
a Lutheran church. But Claes-Bertil Ytterberg, speaking for the
church's governing body, said it was important that the church takes a
clear line.
"It is important that the Church of Sweden can be ecumenically weighty
by being one step ahead and showing potential pathways. We are first
in this context," he said.
Ytterberg said, however, that the church will not use the term
'marriage' ('=E4ktenskap' in Swedish) to describe the unions, keeping it
reserved for unions between a man and a woman.
"The word 'marriage' is so closely linked by tradition to the
relationship between a man and a woman," he said. He said he would
ideally like the marriage laws to be renamed 'cohabitation laws'.
"I admit that this is not a simple message to communicate," he said.
The publication of the official report will be followed by a period of
consultation with affected groups before a bill is drawn up and
presented to parliament.
More evidence of scandanavian degeneracy.
And another landmark on the road to their societal suicide.
They might even deserve extinction.
But they didn't deserve to be indoctrinated by socialism without being
aware of the process that they and their children were being subjected
to.
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| User: "Syd M." |
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19 Mar 2007 03:11:15 AM |
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On Mar 19, 1:30 am, wrote:
On Mar 18, 4:26 pm, "Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trum...@warpmail.net>
wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802548/posts
Swedish bishops say yes to gay church weddings
The Local ^ | 16th March 2007 | TT/The Local
Posted on 03/17/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by crazedsocialist
The Church of Sweden's leaders have said that they are willing to
allow gay people to marry in church on the same basis as heterosexual
couples, although bishops are unsure whether to call the unions
marriage.
"We are prepared to carry out partnerships for homosexuals that have
the force of law," said Bishop Claes-Bertil Ytterberg of the church's
V=E4ster=E5s diocese.
Ytterberg said the decision will make the church the first major
denomination in the world to allow full gay church marriage in
practice. However, the United Church of Canada, the second largest
Canadian denomination, already carries out gay marriages.
An official government report proposing changes to marriage laws is to
be presented next week. The report is expected to call for all
couples, gay or straight, to be given equal marriage rights.
Under the system proposed in the report, churches would retain the
right to perform marriages but each individual priest would be forced
to seek a marriage licence independently. Today's move means that the
church is accepting the proposals.
Gay couples can currently have civil partnerships blessed in church,
but the partnerships' legal force is provided by civil ceremonies.
The question of gay marriage is controversial in the Church of Sweden,
a Lutheran church. But Claes-Bertil Ytterberg, speaking for the
church's governing body, said it was important that the church takes a
clear line.
"It is important that the Church of Sweden can be ecumenically weighty
by being one step ahead and showing potential pathways. We are first
in this context," he said.
Ytterberg said, however, that the church will not use the term
'marriage' ('=E4ktenskap' in Swedish) to describe the unions, keeping it
reserved for unions between a man and a woman.
"The word 'marriage' is so closely linked by tradition to the
relationship between a man and a woman," he said. He said he would
ideally like the marriage laws to be renamed 'cohabitation laws'.
"I admit that this is not a simple message to communicate," he said.
The publication of the official report will be followed by a period of
consultation with affected groups before a bill is drawn up and
presented to parliament.
More evidence of scandanavian degeneracy.
And another landmark on the road to their societal suicide.
They might even deserve extinction.
No.
PDW
PDW's groups:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/metaphysassasin
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/timecentral
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tymewarp
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MPFFC
http://groups.google.com/group/meta-assasin?hl=3Den
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