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User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Date: 18 Feb 2004 11:16:41 PM
Object: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education"
Bush would spend $270 million on abstinence-only education, compared
with $100 million annually when he took office.
The president also would move the programs into the same agency within
the Health and Human Services Department that oversees religious-based
programs and the president's proposal to promote marriage.
From The Associated Press, 2/13/04:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3744056,00.html
Bush Advocates Abstinence-Only Education
Friday February 13, 2004 1:31 PM
By MARK SHERMAN
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) -
The Bush administration is proposing to double spending on sexual
abstinence programs that bar any discussion of birth control or
condoms to prevent pregnancy or AIDS despite a lack of evidence that
such programs work.
A study by researchers at the federal Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention on declining birth and pregnancy rates among teenagers
concludes that prevention programs should emphasize abstinence and
contraception.
``Both are important,'' said Dr. John Santelli, the lead author of the
study, which has not been published.
In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among junior
high school students taking part in an abstinence-only program.
The independent study, commissioned by the state's health department,
recommended broadening the program to include more information about
contraception.
Independent researchers who are studying abstinence-only programs for
the federal government said in their first report two years ago that
no reliable evidence exists whether the programs work.
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of Nazi Germany, nor the war crime trials which took place after Nazi
Germany was defeated. And of the few percent that _do_ bother to learn
what history teaches, even fewer care. And of that vanishing small
minority, few are capable of recognizing that in George Bush fascism
is once again lose.
.

User: "Chapastieme Potatoe"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 01:23:16 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FredR@SkepticTank.REMOVE.ORG> wrote in message
news:1038hlvn2vi5t51@corp.supernews.com...

Bush would spend $270 million on abstinence-only education, compared
with $100 million annually when he took office.

It's gettin close to November you know!
Bush has to energize his voter base of white
trailer trash, non-reading, nascar/CBN watching
poebucks with something they can understand!
(as most of em have 3 unwashed sprogs
running around the ole turquoise doublewide)

The president also would move the programs into the same agency within
the Health and Human Services Department that oversees religious-based
programs and the president's proposal to promote marriage.

Yeah, just more of what this overpopulated planet
needs. More unwashed masses of boobacy.
Bush would re-introduce the chastity belt if he had the chance.
.

User: "Shane"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 20 Feb 2004 01:03:38 AM
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote in message

Bush would spend $270 million on abstinence-only education, compared
with $100 million annually when he took office.


Bushs beliefs are particularly applicable to Africa - A load of dumb
christian fundies wandering around will end Africas AIDS problems in
no time. "Put that thing away Mr golly wog or baby jesus will smack
it".
.
User: "Joe Cosby"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 20 Feb 2004 01:34:37 AM
ALSO SPRACH Shane:

"Put that thing away Mr golly wog or baby jesus will smack
it".

Infantile penis abuse?
oooh baby.
--
Joe Cosby
http://joecosby.home.mindspring.com

Capt. Dobbs:
You admit it!
Capt. Yossarian:
I admit I'm being persecuted.
Capt. McWatt:
Yeah? By whom?
Capt. Yossarian:
By them!
Capt. Dobbs:
But, who specifically is "them"?
Capt. Yossarian:
Every one of them!
Capt. Dobbs:
Every one of who?!
Capt. Yossarian:
Every one of who do you think!
Capt. Dobbs:
I haven't any idea!
Capt. Yossarian:
Then how do you know they aren't?!

.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 11:50:31 AM
And so upon Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:16:41 +0000 didst Fredric L. Rice speak
thusly:

In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among junior
high school students taking part in an abstinence-only program.

Hm... talking about not doing it got them horny?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
.
User: "JTEM"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 05:53:10 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote

Fredric L. Rice speak thusly:

In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among
junior high school students taking part in an abstinence-only
program.

Hm... talking about not doing it got them horny?

If sex is something you only ever do with your one true love, if
you don't have sex with your current boyfriend that means you think
you're going to dump in any minute now.
.
User: "Cardinal Vertigo"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 06:54:15 PM
JTEM wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote

Fredric L. Rice speak thusly:


In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among
junior high school students taking part in an abstinence-only
program.


Hm... talking about not doing it got them horny?


If sex is something you only ever do with your one true love, if
you don't have sex with your current boyfriend that means you think
you're going to dump in any minute now.

To establish credibility: Depending who you believe, I either grew up or
refuse to grow up in the crotch of the Bible Belt. Specifically, a
suburb of the city where the Assemblies of God has its WORLD
headquarters (don't forget the WORLD part, they hate that). The
Assemblies of God are a fundamentalist denomination that make the
Southern Baptists look progressive.
Sometimes kids genuinely buy into the No Sex Until Marriage meme. Here's
what happens all too often when they do:
1. Find your One True Love, who out of six billion people in the world
miraculously happens to be attending the same high school as you. Be
passionately attracted to one another, as teenagers full of hormones are
likely to be.
2. But wait, virginity is a sacred gift (we'll ignore the disturbing
transactional and commoditizing overtones here). So you'll save it for
marriage.
3. But JEEBUS ***** you're horny. Nothing to do about it but run back
and forth along the base paths without touching third or home, which
isn't helping. So as soon as you graduate high school, get married.
Wait until graduation, because it's the right thing to do; otherwise
you're too young. Also, graduating is 'portant, y'know, for your future
an' stuff.
4. Once the union is sanctified, have tons of vanilla and awkward (but
passionate) intercourse. Bliss! Now fast forward a period of time
anywhere between one week and a few years.
5. The novelty of intercourse has worn off, and married life isn't the
state of constant infinite bliss that your church promised it would be.
Since you've both been in a grand total of one relationship apiece,
neither of you have the relationship skills or maturity necessary to
stay committed to one another in the face of any problems. And you've
got plenty. You're young, and broke, and living in a shithole, and
neither of you have any education or job skills, and the manager cut his
hours, and you hate your soul-crushingly menial job but you don't dare
quit because you can't find another because the job market sucks, and
the transmission went out and'll cost $820 to fix, and maybe he hit you
but he cried and promised he'd never do it again, and you think you
believe him but you'd never dream of telling anyone because it was your
fault anyway, you shouldn't have made him so mad.
Now you can get divorced, and face the overwhelming stigma that comes
with it in close-knit fundamentalist churches. Or you can stay together
in an icy hopeless passionless Supermax of a marriage, because you Don't
Believe in Divorce or because the only people who care about you are in
your church and you're afraid they'll abandon you (and you're probably
right). Maybe you managed to have a kid or three along the way; what a
blessing.
--
"If you're going to 'rebel' against 'The Man' and 'Fight the power,'
maybe y'oughta try doing it without a Hot Topic tag dangling from
your counterculture uniform while you are high on the best grass
money stolen from daddy's wallet can buy." - HellPope Huey
.
User: "HellPopeHuey"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 20 Feb 2004 12:04:04 PM
Cardinal Vertigo <jhobbs@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:<XUcZb.4855$Vf6.1887@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>...

To establish credibility: Depending who you believe, I either grew up or
refuse to grow up in the crotch of the Bible Belt. Specifically, a
suburb of the city where the Assemblies of God has its WORLD
headquarters (don't forget the WORLD part, they hate that). The
Assemblies of God are a fundamentalist denomination that make the
Southern Baptists look progressive.

Sometimes kids genuinely buy into the No Sex Until Marriage meme. Here's

what happens all too often when they do:

Best argument I evah seen for being an agnostic, a roving ***** and a
SubGenius! Hey, its worked for me. Read the Pamphlets, its all in
there.
--
HellPope Huey / www.subgenius.com
Its Friday and its still stupid. Now what?
The attempt to silence a man
is the greatest honor you can bestow on him.
It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself.
- Joseph Sobran
"I disappeared like a set of rims at a Puff Daddy concert."
- Larry the Cable Guy
.




User: "johac"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 12:42:33 AM
In article <1038hlvn2vi5t51@corp.supernews.com>,
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

Bush would spend $270 million on abstinence-only education, compared
with $100 million annually when he took office.

The president also would move the programs into the same agency within
the Health and Human Services Department that oversees religious-based
programs and the president's proposal to promote marriage.


From The Associated Press, 2/13/04:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3744056,00.html

Bush Advocates Abstinence-Only Education

Friday February 13, 2004 1:31 PM

By MARK SHERMAN

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -

The Bush administration is proposing to double spending on sexual
abstinence programs that bar any discussion of birth control or
condoms to prevent pregnancy or AIDS despite a lack of evidence that
such programs work.

A study by researchers at the federal Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention on declining birth and pregnancy rates among teenagers
concludes that prevention programs should emphasize abstinence and
contraception.

``Both are important,'' said Dr. John Santelli, the lead author of the
study, which has not been published.

In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among junior
high school students taking part in an abstinence-only program.

Isn't the surest way to get kids to do something is to tell them not to
do it?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
.
User: "HellPopeHuey"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 10:23:24 AM

Bush would spend $270 million on abstinence-only education, compared
with $100 million annually when he took office.

The president also would move the programs into the same agency within

the Health and Human Services Department that oversees religious-based
programs and the president's proposal to promote marriage.

From The Associated Press, 2/13/04:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3744056,00.html

I am never surprised, but always angered, to see repeated instances
of what I call "WWII-Think." The last thing you want to see from those
who control or can DAMAGE the lives of so many is a refusal to flex
with reality, with change over time. The stubborn tendency to ball up
a fist against that with which you do not agree is tiresome to say the
least. Traditional rigidity of religious belief and a demand for
conformity beyond all borders has more to do with failed marriages and
drug abuse than any imagined external force. In essence, we have met
the enemy and he is Bush, plus a blizzard of the similarly-minded.
Harshness rarely pays off and "God" isn't a weapon to be taken up on
demand, or at least with good results. Can you say jihad?
The ONE thing that would really work is education and the last thing
these twerps want to do is admit that sex is for real. It would be
especially effective if you made damned sure the GIRLS grasped the
facts and the consequences. After all, they're the ones with the
golden goodies, arf. Leaving ti to be taught in the home by the
embarrassed and the ill-informed hasn't done jack for most people. I
have no doubt that the Bushies' idea of sex involves little real
passion and that their idea of marriage is a pastiche of cliches,
distance and disquiet. Never mind the arguments; that's just SAD. No
wonder many people turn to drugs; they're seeking relief.
I'll bet poor Laura Bush has never even HAD an orgasm and if she has
ever SEEN a vibrator, thinks its a face massager. As for myself, I am
fucking, sometimes involving a swing made of chamois accoutrement.
HUZZAH!
--
HellPope Huey / www.subgenius.com
Yeah, they're neon-blue balloon pants, what of it?
Whenever people say "we mustn't be sentimental",
you can take it they are about to do something cruel.
And if they add, "we must be realistic",
they mean they are going to make money out of it.
- Brigid Brophy
"Don't worry, that'll fall off by itself."
- "Judging Amy"
.
User: "Shane"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 20 Feb 2004 12:55:01 AM
(HellPopeHuey) wrote in message

I am never surprised, but always angered, to see repeated instances
of what I call "WWII-Think." The last thing you want to see from those
who control or can DAMAGE the lives of so many is a refusal to flex
with reality, with change over time.


WWII was not a time for conservative sexual mores. The threat of
random violent death in a profoundly fucked up world made people *****
like bunnies on dexedrine. Only soppy cunts like Bush can draw
parallels between then and now.
.
User: "gammajoe8"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 20 Feb 2004 10:03:53 AM
"Shane" <shanewsutton@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a2669c88.0402192255.6c9adeb8@posting.google.com...

hellpopehuey@subgenius.com (HellPopeHuey) wrote in message

I am never surprised, but always angered, to see repeated instances
of what I call "WWII-Think." The last thing you want to see from those
who control or can DAMAGE the lives of so many is a refusal to flex
with reality, with change over time.


WWII was not a time for conservative sexual mores. The threat of
random violent death in a profoundly fucked up world made people *****
like bunnies on dexedrine.

And not necessarily with their wives or husbands - t'was *any port in the
storm* mentality

Only soppy cunts like Bush can draw
parallels between then and now.

Dumbya knows no history at all about anywhere or anything.
In the '50's conservatism made a comeback. I think that's where the
right-wing wants to go, back to the '50's. No pill, no abortion, women
were blamed for being raped, women and men had definite roles to fill...
--
#948
"What we fear most is that economic power would try to seize democratic
power." - James Madison
.




User: "W.Syme"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 18 Feb 2004 11:07:57 PM
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:16:41 GMT,

(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among junior
high school students taking part in an abstinence-only program.

Well, colour me surprised. If *I* can think this up by myself, you'd
think the administration of the world's most powerful country could as
well.
Apparently not. Asshats.
--
==I am an atheist==
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Fucking twice as much in "Abstinence-Only Education" 19 Feb 2004 08:48:52 PM
W.Syme <W.Syme.killspam@hotpop.com> wrote:

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:16:41 GMT,


(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

In Minnesota, a study found that sexual activity doubled among junior
high school students taking part in an abstinence-only program.

Well, colour me surprised. If *I* can think this up by myself, you'd
think the administration of the world's most powerful country could as
well. Apparently not. Asshats.

Bush and his fellow fascists are absolutely insane.
---
CAUTION: Reading these Scientology "secrets" will give you pneumonia:
http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html http://w4u.eexi.gr/~antbos/XENU.HTM
Few Americans ever learn anything of any serious content about the rise
of Nazi Germany, nor the war crime trials which took place after Nazi
Germany was defeated. And of the few percent that _do_ bother to learn
what history teaches, even fewer care. And of that vanishing small
minority, few are capable of recognizing that in George Bush fascism
is once again lose.
.



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