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Religions > Atheism |
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"Tztrzluska Zebrenski" |
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01 Nov 2005 02:51:37 AM |
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Galileo and Evolution |
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
01 Nov 2005 06:39:18 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a way
to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You could
not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy did
it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a ball
that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the church's
followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the radically
different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a hundred
years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
in science believe in it. The people who are so militantly anti-evolution
are not interested in science. They are interested in defending their
religious beliefs against the onslaught of modern thinking.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
01 Nov 2005 11:44:39 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a way
to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You could
not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy did
it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a ball
that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the church's
followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the radically
different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a hundred
years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
WHAT?!?!??!
"Evolution" has been around for billions of years!
(Which is just a trifle more than 100 years)
Where are you getting your science from?
The Hackenthorpe Encyclopaedia of Religious Lies?
in science believe in it. The people who are so militantly anti-evolution
are not interested in science. They are interested in defending their
religious beliefs against the onslaught of modern thinking.
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| User: "Colin Day" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
03 Nov 2005 12:31:46 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a way
to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You could
not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy did
it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a ball
that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the church's
followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the radically
different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a hundred
years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
WHAT?!?!??!
"Evolution" has been around for billions of years!
(Which is just a trifle more than 100 years)
Where are you getting your science from?
The Hackenthorpe Encyclopaedia of Religious Lies?
He may have meant that the Theory of Evolution has been around since 1859.
The biological fact of evolution is, of course, somewhat older.
Colin Day aa #1500
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
06 Nov 2005 10:03:30 AM |
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Colin Day wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
WHAT?!?!??!
"Evolution" has been around for billions of years!
(Which is just a trifle more than 100 years)
Where are you getting your science from?
The Hackenthorpe Encyclopaedia of Religious Lies?
He may have meant that the Theory of Evolution has been around since 1859.
The biological fact of evolution is, of course, somewhat older.
Colin Day aa #1500
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
06 Nov 2005 07:46:38 PM |
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On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:03:30 -0500, MarkA <nobiz@ofyours.com> wrote:
Colin Day wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
WHAT?!?!??!
"Evolution" has been around for billions of years!
(Which is just a trifle more than 100 years)
Where are you getting your science from?
The Hackenthorpe Encyclopaedia of Religious Lies?
He may have meant that the Theory of Evolution has been around since 1859.
The biological fact of evolution is, of course, somewhat older.
Colin Day aa #1500
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
Considerably more than 100 years.
Pre-literate middle Eastern herders were acutely aware that they could
evolve their stock by selecting those with desired characteristics for
breeding.
This IS evolution, and humans have been consciously aware of from at
least the start of recorded history.
I contend that recorded history is a tiny bit longer than 100 years.
To be precise: a LOT more. Plus a bit.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
07 Nov 2005 11:28:36 AM |
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:16:38 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:03:30 -0500, MarkA <nobiz@ofyours.com> wrote:
Colin Day wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
WHAT?!?!??!
"Evolution" has been around for billions of years!
(Which is just a trifle more than 100 years)
Where are you getting your science from?
The Hackenthorpe Encyclopaedia of Religious Lies?
He may have meant that the Theory of Evolution has been around since 1859.
The biological fact of evolution is, of course, somewhat older.
Colin Day aa #1500
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
Considerably more than 100 years.
Pre-literate middle Eastern herders were acutely aware that they could
evolve their stock by selecting those with desired characteristics for
breeding.
This IS evolution, and humans have been consciously aware of from at
least the start of recorded history.
I contend that recorded history is a tiny bit longer than 100 years.
To be precise: a LOT more. Plus a bit.
Stone-agers are well aware of the problems of inbreeding. Such was
reported in an issue of the Smithsonian Magazine concerning one of the
splinter groups of a South American stone-age tribe.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
07 Nov 2005 06:48:34 PM |
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On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:28:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:16:38 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:03:30 -0500, MarkA <nobiz@ofyours.com> wrote:
Colin Day wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
WHAT?!?!??!
"Evolution" has been around for billions of years!
(Which is just a trifle more than 100 years)
Where are you getting your science from?
The Hackenthorpe Encyclopaedia of Religious Lies?
He may have meant that the Theory of Evolution has been around since 1859.
The biological fact of evolution is, of course, somewhat older.
Colin Day aa #1500
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
Considerably more than 100 years.
Pre-literate middle Eastern herders were acutely aware that they could
evolve their stock by selecting those with desired characteristics for
breeding.
This IS evolution, and humans have been consciously aware of from at
least the start of recorded history.
I contend that recorded history is a tiny bit longer than 100 years.
To be precise: a LOT more. Plus a bit.
Stone-agers are well aware of the problems of inbreeding. Such was
reported in an issue of the Smithsonian Magazine concerning one of the
splinter groups of a South American stone-age tribe.
Yes, I hear what you are saying, and it is a valid contribution to the
general proposition of fitness awareness, but I guess that one problem
with using "stone-agers" as a reference to an absolute time-line
(which is what I was attemptiung to establish), is that, at least in
this country, we had true stone-age tribes living here; well after the
publication of Darwin's tomes, (into the 20th century)
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
08 Nov 2005 09:51:29 AM |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:18:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:28:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
Considerably more than 100 years.
Pre-literate middle Eastern herders were acutely aware that they could
evolve their stock by selecting those with desired characteristics for
breeding.
This IS evolution, and humans have been consciously aware of from at
least the start of recorded history.
I contend that recorded history is a tiny bit longer than 100 years.
To be precise: a LOT more. Plus a bit.
Stone-agers are well aware of the problems of inbreeding. Such was
reported in an issue of the Smithsonian Magazine concerning one of the
splinter groups of a South American stone-age tribe.
Yes, I hear what you are saying, and it is a valid contribution to the
general proposition of fitness awareness, but I guess that one problem
with using "stone-agers" as a reference to an absolute time-line
(which is what I was attemptiung to establish), is that, at least in
this country, we had true stone-age tribes living here; well after the
publication of Darwin's tomes, (into the 20th century)
And the 21st. Such tribes still exist today. Smithsonian Magazine
April 2005 P.62-70.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
08 Nov 2005 08:01:46 PM |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 07:51:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:18:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:28:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
Considerably more than 100 years.
Pre-literate middle Eastern herders were acutely aware that they could
evolve their stock by selecting those with desired characteristics for
breeding.
This IS evolution, and humans have been consciously aware of from at
least the start of recorded history.
I contend that recorded history is a tiny bit longer than 100 years.
To be precise: a LOT more. Plus a bit.
Stone-agers are well aware of the problems of inbreeding. Such was
reported in an issue of the Smithsonian Magazine concerning one of the
splinter groups of a South American stone-age tribe.
Yes, I hear what you are saying, and it is a valid contribution to the
general proposition of fitness awareness, but I guess that one problem
with using "stone-agers" as a reference to an absolute time-line
(which is what I was attemptiung to establish), is that, at least in
this country, we had true stone-age tribes living here; well after the
publication of Darwin's tomes, (into the 20th century)
And the 21st. Such tribes still exist today. Smithsonian Magazine
April 2005 P.62-70.
Utterly fascinating.
Although the authour puts it: "a fierce tribe not far removed from the
stone age", as though there were some attribute that excluded them
from being considered "stone age" proper, such as steel axes.
The tribes that I was referring to, in central Australia, and Papua
New Guinea, were still living totally as they were some 10,000 years
ago.
Picky, I know...
Still, the article is of particular interest to atheists, as the
researcher concerned says: "The church and loggers are my biggest
enemies."
And his fellow assistants say they have never seen any evidence that
this particular tribe (Korubo) has any form of spiritual befiefs
whatsoever.
"Magna (a nurse) tells me that in the two years she's tended to clan
members, she's never seen any evidence of their spiritual practice or
beliefs."
Which came across strongly to me as suggesting that this tribe are
natural atheists.
But to most atheists' dismay, but not to their surprise, the local
Pentacostal church's Pastor Antonio took Possuelo to task: "Jesus
said, 'Go to the world and bring the Gospel to all peoples'".
He says, as he claims the right to poison these people's existence.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
09 Nov 2005 11:11:47 AM |
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 12:31:46 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 07:51:29 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 11:18:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:28:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
Indeed. It would have been more precise to say that our awareness of the
existence of evolution has been around for over 100 years...
Considerably more than 100 years.
Pre-literate middle Eastern herders were acutely aware that they could
evolve their stock by selecting those with desired characteristics for
breeding.
This IS evolution, and humans have been consciously aware of from at
least the start of recorded history.
I contend that recorded history is a tiny bit longer than 100 years.
To be precise: a LOT more. Plus a bit.
Stone-agers are well aware of the problems of inbreeding. Such was
reported in an issue of the Smithsonian Magazine concerning one of the
splinter groups of a South American stone-age tribe.
Yes, I hear what you are saying, and it is a valid contribution to the
general proposition of fitness awareness, but I guess that one problem
with using "stone-agers" as a reference to an absolute time-line
(which is what I was attemptiung to establish), is that, at least in
this country, we had true stone-age tribes living here; well after the
publication of Darwin's tomes, (into the 20th century)
And the 21st. Such tribes still exist today. Smithsonian Magazine
April 2005 P.62-70.
Utterly fascinating.
Although the authour puts it: "a fierce tribe not far removed from the
stone age", as though there were some attribute that excluded them
from being considered "stone age" proper, such as steel axes.
The tribes that I was referring to, in central Australia, and Papua
New Guinea, were still living totally as they were some 10,000 years
ago.
Picky, I know...
No worries.
Still, the article is of particular interest to atheists, as the
researcher concerned says: "The church and loggers are my biggest
enemies."
The church is everyone's enemy.
And his fellow assistants say they have never seen any evidence that
this particular tribe (Korubo) has any form of spiritual befiefs
whatsoever.
"Magna (a nurse) tells me that in the two years she's tended to clan
members, she's never seen any evidence of their spiritual practice or
beliefs."
Which came across strongly to me as suggesting that this tribe are
natural atheists.
Could be.
But to most atheists' dismay, but not to their surprise, the local
Pentacostal church's Pastor Antonio took Possuelo to task: "Jesus
said, 'Go to the world and bring the Gospel to all peoples'".
He says, as he claims the right to poison these people's existence.
The usual Christian malevolence, ignorance, and pride.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "duke" |
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02 Nov 2005 04:10:02 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:39:18 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 +0000, Tztrzluska Zebrenski wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a way
to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You could
not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy did
it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a ball
that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the church's
followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the radically
different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a hundred
years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
Evolution has already been around for over 100 years. People who believe
in science believe in it. The people who are so militantly anti-evolution
are not interested in science. They are interested in defending their
religious beliefs against the onslaught of modern thinking.
People who believe in God believe in evolution. For it is God's way.
Only atheists like to talk about creation in lieu of evolution.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "satyr" |
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09 Nov 2005 10:17:34 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 04:10:02 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
People who believe in God believe in evolution. For it is God's way.
Only atheists like to talk about creation in lieu of evolution.
Oh ***** duke, you just made the milk come out my nose.
Two hundred years ago, Catholics were saying, "People who believe in
God believe in a round Earth. For it is God's way. Only atheists
like to talk about a flat Earth in lieu of a round Earth."
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
09 Nov 2005 10:12:40 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 GMT, Tztrzluska Zebrenski
<user@example.net> wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
And if religion keeps losing influence at the rate it has since
Galileo, it will be regarded in much the same way that phrenology is
today.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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01 Nov 2005 06:31:15 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 GMT, Tztrzluska Zebrenski
<user@example.net> wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
It took them several hundred years to admit they were wrong.
Tztrzluska Zebenski
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
04 Nov 2005 07:18:32 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:31:15 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 GMT, Tztrzluska Zebrenski
<user@example.net> wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
The truth that Galileo presented did not destroy the faith of the
church's followers as was so strongly suspected. I suspect that like the
radically different view of the cosmos, evolution will perhaps, after a
hundred years or so, be accepted in much the same way.
It took them several hundred years to admit they were wrong.
400+.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
01 Nov 2005 07:34:51 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37 GMT, Tztrzluska Zebrenski <user@example.net> wrote:
When the bibles were written, science did not exist. Mankind needed a
way to explain the world around them. Religion supplied that need. You
could not expect people in that era to understand the factual nature of
nature.
How many years after the Catholic church imprisoned Galileo for herecy
did it take to accept that the Earth wasn't flat and the sky wasn't a
ball that revolved around it?
Nope, that's not it.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
01 Nov 2005 01:37:55 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Tztrzluska Zebrenski
<user@example.net> posting the following on Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37
GMT iin alt.atheism?
When the bibles were written, science did not exist.
Bollocks. Eratosthenes determined the circumference of the Earth, and
the distance to the Moon and Sun with considerable accuracy centuries
before the NT was written.
Science is a method, and one we have used to explain and expand since
we became sapient.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
01 Nov 2005 06:37:15 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:epgfm1l4c2fl2iic11amlfkak2smllcdcf@4ax.com...
What's so funny about peace, love and Tztrzluska Zebrenski
<user@example.net> posting the following on Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37
GMT iin alt.atheism?
When the bibles were written, science did not exist.
Bollocks. Eratosthenes determined the circumference of the Earth, and
the distance to the Moon and Sun with considerable accuracy centuries
before the NT was written.
But that took effort! The Bible makes you right without all that difficult
and time consuming "Checking-To-See-If-You're-Right" stuff.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Galileo and Evolution |
01 Nov 2005 03:55:35 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:37:55 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
What's so funny about peace, love and Tztrzluska Zebrenski
<user@example.net> posting the following on Tue, 01 Nov 2005 08:51:37
GMT iin alt.atheism?
When the bibles were written, science did not exist.
Bollocks. Eratosthenes determined the circumference of the Earth, and
the distance to the Moon and Sun with considerable accuracy centuries
before the NT was written.
"Strike the twos and strike the threes,
The sieve if Eratosthenes.
When the multiples sublime,
The numbers that are left are prime"
Science is a method, and one we have used to explain and expand since
we became sapient.
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