Religions > Atheism > Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle
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Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
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Magazine publisher accepts Christ, leaves homosexual lifestyle
OneNewsNow.com ^ | 2 Mar 2007 | Jeff Johnson
Posted on 03/02/2007 12:44:26 PM PST by nckerr
OneNewsNow.com March 2, 2007
The publisher of Venus Magazine, a 13 year old periodical for
homosexuals of African-American descent, announced on the magazine's
website that she has become a Christian and now rejects the lesbian
lifestyle she has lived for her "entire adult life."
"Over the past 29 years of my life I have been an aggressive, creative
and strategic supporter of gay and lesbian issues," Charlene E.
Cothran, VENUS Magazine publisher wrote in the article. "I've
organized and participated in countless marches and various lobbying
efforts in the fight for equal treatment of gay men and lesbians.
Cothran goes on in the online edition's current "cover story" to
describe her financial contributions to homosexual lobbying
organizations, but says her life has now changed.
"As the publisher of a 13 year old periodical which targets Black gays
and lesbians, I have had the opportunity to publicly address
thousands, influencing closeted people to 'come out' and stand up for
them selves, which is particularly difficult in the African-American
community," Cothran writes. "But now, I must come out of the closet
again.
"I have recently experienced the power of change that came over me
once I completely surrendered to the teachings of Jesus Christ," she
continues. "As a believer of the word of God, I fully accept and have
always known that same-sex relationships are not what God intended for
us."
Cothran details a discussion with a local pastor that galvanized the
doubts she had been having while trying to reconcile her homosexual
behavior with the biblical prohibition on sex outside of a one-man,
one-woman marriage.
"The spirit of God spoke directly into my soul and said you will
choose this day who you will serve and if you make the wrong choice, I
will allow you to drift so far away from me that you will never hear
my voice again," Cothran recalls. "I gave God my heart and soul in the
parking lot of the mall, right there in my car. A river of tears
flowed as Jesus washed me and forgave me and redeemed me for His
work."
The author and activist says her work with the homosexual community
will continue, but its focus will drastically change.
"I intend be just as 'out' about my transformation as I was about my
lesbian life. I have given every gift I have back to God, including
VENUS Magazine" Cothran added. "The target audience will remain the
same but the mission has been renewed. Our new mission is to
encourage, educate and assist those in the [homosexual] life who want
change but can't find a way out."
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07 Mar 2007 08:36:03 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
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On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
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| User: "No One" |
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08 Mar 2007 12:03:24 AM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
I.e., you've shown your dishonest again by forging text and attributing
it to someone else. How stupid can you be? You were caught doing this
very recently. Your continued behavior suggests that you could well
be a pathological liar. For your own good, get some professional help.
You need it.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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09 Mar 2007 01:30:42 AM |
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On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:03:24 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
I.e., you've shown your dishonest again by forging text and attributing
it to someone else. How stupid can you be? You were caught doing this
very recently. Your continued behavior suggests that you could well
be a pathological liar. For your own good, get some professional help.
You need it.
You have me confused with your dear "Andrealphus." Everyone will be
laughing at you for that error.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
09 Mar 2007 09:42:52 AM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:03:24 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
No, you lied. You forged text that you attributed to another person
and this is not the first time. You did it on purpose: it was in the
text quoted by your newsreader, so you must have specifically altered
it by copy and pasting text from somewhere else.
I.e., you've shown your dishonest again by forging text and attributing
it to someone else. How stupid can you be? You were caught doing this
very recently. Your continued behavior suggests that you could well
be a pathological liar. For your own good, get some professional help.
You need it.
You have me confused with your dear "Andrealphus." Everyone will be
laughing at you for that error.
Nope. Everyone knows how dishonest you are. BTW, I've added your
current forgery to the canned response, so if you don't like to hear
about it over and over, I suggest you clean up your act: I only use
the canned response when you start posting personal comments rather
than trying to hold a civil discussion.
BTW, what makes you think I care about that Andrealphus character?
You made that up too.
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09 Mar 2007 10:34:56 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:42:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:03:24 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
No, you lied. You forged text that you attributed to another person
and this is not the first time.
No. I simply made an error in snipping what was not relevant in the
post. Happens to everyone now and then> Excepting, of course, your
sweety, Andrealphus, to who post altering and post forgery is an
occupation.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
10 Mar 2007 10:40:05 AM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:42:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:03:24 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
No, you lied. You forged text that you attributed to another person
and this is not the first time.
No. I simply made an error in snipping what was not relevant in the
post. Happens to everyone now and then> Excepting, of course, your
sweety, Andrealphus, to who post altering and post forgery is an
occupation.
Liar - you made no error in snipping because the text was not in the
post you quoted at all!
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
12 Mar 2007 02:44:03 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:40:05 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:42:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:03:24 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:02 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
No, you lied. You forged text that you attributed to another person
and this is not the first time.
No. I simply made an error in snipping what was not relevant in the
post. Happens to everyone now and then> Excepting, of course, your
sweety, Andrealphus, to who post altering and post forgery is an
occupation.
Liar - you made no error in snipping because the text was not in the
post you quoted at all!
Sure it was. I'm surprised that you would resort to such a "STUPID"
attempt to save face. It was simply an error of mis-assigning the OP.
A common error often occurring in Usenet post.
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12 Mar 2007 06:25:41 PM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:40:05 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:42:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
(quoted text is a forgery)
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
No, you lied. You forged text that you attributed to another person
and this is not the first time.
No. I simply made an error in snipping what was not relevant in the
post. Happens to everyone now and then> Excepting, of course, your
sweety, Andrealphus, to who post altering and post forgery is an
occupation.
Liar - you made no error in snipping because the text was not in the
post you quoted at all!
Sure it was. I'm surprised that you would resort to such a "STUPID"
attempt to save face. It was simply an error of mis-assigning the OP.
A common error often occurring in Usenet post.
What a liar. It was not in the posts, and I've provided the message
IDs to back that up.
He also doesn't learn even when called on his behavior. In Message ID
<016tu2d0ksk24dsucsvpr22uq4nh2a80br@4ax.com>, bibon (aka Bill Taylor)
pretends a phrase in quotes was written in
<87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> yet it does not appear there
(<87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> is the message ID of the post
that he was responding to, as is clear from the headers for his post).
In message ID <dp22v21m779nvfjdch92nurepkr5ct88vl@4ax.com> he tried to
cover it up by claiming it wasa "mistake", even though the "mistake"
occurred in quoted text (lines starting with '>') that were
automatically inserted by his newsreader. His claim of a "mistake"
is as believable as "my dog ate my homework". Then in a post with
message ID <s4d4v29mamrmrstjirqler18libhomhl93@4ax.com>, he tried
to pretend that he had merely snipped a post incorrectly, even
though the text in question never was in the one he quoted.
Such behavior gives zero credibility to any statment Bill Taylor (aka
bibon, aka ...) makes. You really have to wonder about someone who
would post such a lie when it is so easily checked.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
13 Mar 2007 02:11:42 AM |
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On 12 Mar 2007 16:25:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:40:05 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:42:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
On 05 Mar 2007 21:23:06 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
"My beloved Bill Taylor"
(quoted text is a forgery)
Great move, ZERO, confession is good for the soul.
See Message ID <87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for the post you
are replying to. The phrase about Bill Taylor that you just tried to
attribute to me does not appear in that post.
So, I made a mistake, forgive me won't you. But you do mention the
name of your beloved Bill Taylor in most every post you make in
response to one of mine (a quick Google search of your responses to my
posts will verify that) so you must agree that it was really an honest
mistake.
No, you lied. You forged text that you attributed to another person
and this is not the first time.
No. I simply made an error in snipping what was not relevant in the
post. Happens to everyone now and then> Excepting, of course, your
sweety, Andrealphus, to who post altering and post forgery is an
occupation.
Liar - you made no error in snipping because the text was not in the
post you quoted at all!
Sure it was. I'm surprised that you would resort to such a "STUPID"
attempt to save face. It was simply an error of mis-assigning the OP.
A common error often occurring in Usenet post.
What a liar. It was not in the posts, and I've provided the message
IDs to back that up.
He also doesn't learn even when called on his behavior. In Message ID
<016tu2d0ksk24dsucsvpr22uq4nh2a80br@4ax.com>, bibon (aka Bill Taylor)
pretends a phrase in quotes was written in
<87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> yet it does not appear there
(<87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> is the message ID of the post
that he was responding to, as is clear from the headers for his post).
In message ID <dp22v21m779nvfjdch92nurepkr5ct88vl@4ax.com> he tried to
cover it up by claiming it wasa "mistake", even though the "mistake"
occurred in quoted text (lines starting with '>') that were
automatically inserted by his newsreader. His claim of a "mistake"
is as believable as "my dog ate my homework". Then in a post with
message ID <s4d4v29mamrmrstjirqler18libhomhl93@4ax.com>, he tried
to pretend that he had merely snipped a post incorrectly, even
though the text in question never was in the one he quoted.
Such behavior gives zero credibility to any statment Bill Taylor (aka
bibon, aka ...) makes. You really have to wonder about someone who
would post such a lie when it is so easily checked.
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
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13 Mar 2007 10:17:07 AM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 12 Mar 2007 16:25:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
See my previous post to exactly the same statement by you. Google
can search by message ID, in case you are pretending not to know.
Your statement is as silly as saying that anyone can make up a citation
(while having the book in question sitting right on one's desk so
it is trivial to check).
You keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself!
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
13 Mar 2007 03:39:48 PM |
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On 13 Mar 2007 08:17:07 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 12 Mar 2007 16:25:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
See my previous post to exactly the same statement by you. Google
can search by message ID, in case you are pretending not to know.
Your statement is as silly as saying that anyone can make up a citation
(while having the book in question sitting right on one's desk so
it is trivial to check).
You keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself!
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
13 Mar 2007 04:54:38 PM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 13 Mar 2007 08:17:07 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 12 Mar 2007 16:25:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
See my previous post to exactly the same statement by you. Google
can search by message ID, in case you are pretending not to know.
Your statement is as silly as saying that anyone can make up a citation
(while having the book in question sitting right on one's desk so
it is trivial to check).
You keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself!
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
LOL! You've been figuratively caught with your pants down and are now
pretending you were wearing a chastity belt. :-) The original posts
are proof of what you did, and none of us can modify a post that is
recorded in google's archives.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
13 Mar 2007 10:37:38 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:54:38 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 13 Mar 2007 08:17:07 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 12 Mar 2007 16:25:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
See my previous post to exactly the same statement by you. Google
can search by message ID, in case you are pretending not to know.
Your statement is as silly as saying that anyone can make up a citation
(while having the book in question sitting right on one's desk so
it is trivial to check).
You keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself!
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
LOL! You've been figuratively caught with your pants down and are now
pretending you were wearing a chastity belt. :-) The original posts
are proof of what you did, and none of us can modify a post that is
recorded in google's archives.
Post the original post. I have and will again post the ones that
prove you to be a LIAR:
No One
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From: No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 01:12:24 GMT
Local: Thurs, Feb 5 2004 8:12 pm
Subject: Re: What IS The Dish With This "Bill Taylor"?
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maf 1029 <m...@spamme.com> writes:
On 2 Feb 2004 08:33:42 -0800, (Dana Prescott)
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maf and dog <m...@spammjohnson.please> wrote in message <news:jmem10tqaf2ggqakp9gf01f83p2tm8sr28@4ax.com>...
Yes, it is possible that a frustrated, failed artist and homophobe,
whose writing style matches that of our favorite troll, and whose
stunningly lackluster fondness for all things German (including the
exact same grammatical errors, and don't even think about starting
with me again on that topic), and coincidental use of the same ISP as
our favorite troll could definitely indicate the likelihood that it's
the wrong person...... on the Bizarro Planet.
Thanks for all of the informative "fills", Maf.
You're welcome.
What you haven't done, however, is to show that the artist whose
phone number and web page you produced is the same Bill Taylor
plaguing these newsgroups. There is no German of any sort on
the artist's web page, nor any other information that would
indicate that is "our" Bill Taylor.
The coincidences seems to be indications that other posters are
actually Bill Talyor, but the link to the artist is missing
(and having the same name is not good enough.)
Since you are providing the artist's website and home phone
number, it would seem reasonable to ask for a verifiable chain
of evidence.
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13 Mar 2007 11:51:04 PM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 21:54:38 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 13 Mar 2007 08:17:07 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 12 Mar 2007 16:25:41 -0700, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
See my previous post to exactly the same statement by you. Google
can search by message ID, in case you are pretending not to know.
Your statement is as silly as saying that anyone can make up a citation
(while having the book in question sitting right on one's desk so
it is trivial to check).
You keep digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself!
Anyone can make up message ID, boy! Proof, boy, lets see some proof
that you didn't forge or modify the post that you are lying about.
PROOF!
LOL! You've been figuratively caught with your pants down and are now
pretending you were wearing a chastity belt. :-) The original posts
are proof of what you did, and none of us can modify a post that is
recorded in google's archives.
Post the original post. I have and will again post the ones that
prove you to be a LIAR:
Bibon (aka Bill Taylor) is a bigot who posts regularly on a variety of
newsgroups, and is noted for his lack of manners, his hatred, his
dishonesty, and a characteristic redneck patois that creeps in every
so often. Of course, he denies his real identity (and the large number
of aliases he's used).
See Message-ID <n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v@4ax.com> for a post
in which bibon accidentally identified himself as Bill Taylor and
Message ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> for details about how
he identified himself. Basically, he claimed that "Bill Taylor" never
received a phone call from some individual, something only "Bill
Taylor" could know, with the phone number in question belonging to
"our" "Bill Taylor". Others, of course, have reached the same
conclusion.
The really interesting question is why he is so sensitive about "Bill
Taylor" so much more so than all his other numerous identities. :-)
Some of his rantings are just comical. For example,
in Message ID <2iell25bqiqgv16irm0ui3a048r8kjeaec@4ax.com>, one of
Bill Taylor's aliases "bibon@ralent.org (with a '^' over the 'a')
posted an inadvertent admission that he is gay enough to hire a
male prostitute (whether or not he intended to say that).
However, he's shown his dishonesty time and time again. For one
example, in Message ID <skmio2d2lukbv2gkt5q0nqhk230e022r9s@4ax.com>,
Bill Taylor (aka bibon) was caught forging headers,changing "LC" to
"LA" and "LB" in headers he cut and pasted to pretend that "LC" was
posting under multiple identities. You can cross check this claim by
using Google to search for the message IDs. LC's post with Message ID
<embjih02o3h@enews1.newsguy.com> was attributed by Bill Taylor to "LA"
(but Taylor suppressed part of the message ID by giving it as
<embjhn02...@enews1.newsguy.com> to make tracing it difficult).
He also doesn't learn even when called on his behavior. In Message ID
<016tu2d0ksk24dsucsvpr22uq4nh2a80br@4ax.com>, bibon (aka Bill Taylor)
pretends a phrase in quotes was written in
<87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> yet it does not appear there
(<87ps7kj3oy.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> is the message ID of the post
that he was responding to, as is clear from the headers for his post).
In message ID <dp22v21m779nvfjdch92nurepkr5ct88vl@4ax.com> he tried to
cover it up by claiming it wasa "mistake", even though the "mistake"
occurred in quoted text (lines starting with '>') that were
automatically inserted by his newsreader. His claim of a "mistake"
is as believable as "my dog ate my homework". Then in a post with
message ID <s4d4v29mamrmrstjirqler18libhomhl93@4ax.com>, he tried
to pretend that he had merely snipped a post incorrectly, even
though the text in question never was in the one he quoted.
Such behavior gives zero credibility to any statment Bill Taylor (aka
bibon, aka ...) makes. You really have to wonder about someone who
would post such a lie when it is so easily checked: just go to
<http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&> and copy a message ID
(do not include the '<' and '>') in the search string at the bottom of
the page, and click the "Lookup Message" button to find an original
post.
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06 Mar 2007 06:03:14 AM |
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Bibon wrote:
Size really is important to you homos, isn't it?
Like, OHMYGAWD! That, like, totally explains those "Smiling Bob" commercials!
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey
their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the
world is fast approaching."
-- Assyrian tablet, c. 2800 BC
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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| User: "bob&carole" |
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06 Mar 2007 06:57:31 AM |
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X-No-Archive:
On Mar 5, 11:34?pm, Bibon <bibon@r?lant.org> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:34:51 GMT, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
It's possible that she had a tiny web site, using her ISP's web
service, got religion, and with the religion came some funding to make
the thing look more real as advertising for the religious right wing's
anti-gay agenda, at which point the web site designer was hired.
Size really is important to you homos, isn't it?
Nope, that accounts for the vast number of homosexual pedophiles.
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| User: "Roger" |
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06 Mar 2007 07:09:42 AM |
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"bob&carole" <bobandcarole02@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173185851.351741.81420@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
X-No-Archive:
On Mar 5, 11:34?pm, Bibon <bibon@r?lant.org> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:34:51 GMT, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
It's possible that she had a tiny web site, using her ISP's web
service, got religion, and with the religion came some funding to make
the thing look more real as advertising for the religious right wing's
anti-gay agenda, at which point the web site designer was hired.
Size really is important to you homos, isn't it?
Nope, that accounts for the vast number of homosexual pedophiles.
From http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_chil.htm
The Reality of Pedophilia
We get often caught in a semantic conflict when discussing the sexual abuse
and molestation of children. Depending upon our exact definitions of terms,
it can be shown:
1. that homosexual abuse of children is widespread, and
2. that abuse of boys by gays is rare, and
3. that the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still.
If we define the phrase "homosexual abuse of children" in the first
statement to mean adults molesting and abusing children of the same sex,
then this statement is true: Child sexual abuse is widespread. It is
perpetrated by males in the vast majority of cases. And a substantial
minority of their victims are boys. Data relating to men abusing boys is
hungrily pounced upon by opponents to equal rights for homosexuals, who
often use it against both gays and lesbians in civil rights battles. But it
is not homosexuals, as the term is generally understood, who are responsible
for the abuse. It is rather pedophiles who are attracted to children, and
have decided to abuse them.
However, if we define the phrase "abuse of boys by gays", and "abuse of
girls by lesbians" to mean adult persons with a homosexual orientation
abusing children of the same sex, then these statements 2 and 3 above are
also true. Gays and lesbians rarely abuse children.
The fact behind these conflicting statements is that most pedophiles are not
homosexuals! Or to put it another way, most homosexual molestation is not
done by homosexuals.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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06 Mar 2007 07:53:58 AM |
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:09:42 -0800, "Roger"
<rogerfx@hotmail.com> claimed:
The fact behind these conflicting statements is that
most pedophiles are not homosexuals! Or to put it
another way, most homosexual molestation is not
done by homosexuals.
Which, if true, would mean that some are and says nothing
about whether or not homosexual acts are right or wrong.
And so, this is nothing but a red herring.
--
It is a sad commentary, when people sift the Bible through
their doctrines and their doctrines become absolute in
their minds and the Bible is manipulated and twisted up
like a pretzel to make it match their doctrines. This
happens because so many believe that the Bible is useless,
if it isn't all about them today. They deny that, but
why is it then, that their supposed fulfillments of Bible
prophecies that they preach, always end up being about
whatever is in the news lately and the news always
becomes, "The fulfillment of Bible prophecies right
before our very eyes!". And that folks, is Futurism!
Selfishness, conceit, ego, arrogance and vanity! (:
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| User: "thomas p." |
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08 Mar 2007 08:41:35 AM |
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On 6 Mar., 14:53, Pastor Dave <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:09:42 -0800, "Roger"
<roge...@hotmail.com> claimed:
The fact behind these conflicting statements is that
most pedophiles are not homosexuals! Or to put it
another way, most homosexual molestation is not
done by homosexuals.
Which, if true, would mean that some are
As are some heterosexuals - so what?
and says nothing
about whether or not homosexual acts are right or wrong.
And so, this is nothing but a red herring.
No, it is not a red herring. It is pointing out that the claim that
pedophilia has something to do with homosexuality is false. There is
no basis for the charge, and, since that has been demonstrated
repeatedly, the people who continue to make the charge are lying and
encouraging hatred of an entire group of people. Even Christians
should be able to see that that is evil, but apparently it is too much
to expect.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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07 Mar 2007 04:53:08 AM |
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:09:42 -0800, "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"bob&carole" <bobandcarole02@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173185851.351741.81420@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
X-No-Archive:
On Mar 5, 11:34?pm, Bibon <bibon@r?lant.org> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:34:51 GMT, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
It's possible that she had a tiny web site, using her ISP's web
service, got religion, and with the religion came some funding to make
the thing look more real as advertising for the religious right wing's
anti-gay agenda, at which point the web site designer was hired.
Size really is important to you homos, isn't it?
Nope, that accounts for the vast number of homosexual pedophiles.
From http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_chil.htm
The Reality of Pedophilia
We get often caught in a semantic conflict when discussing the sexual abuse
and molestation of children. Depending upon our exact definitions of terms,
it can be shown:
1. that homosexual abuse of children is widespread, and
2. that abuse of boys by gays is rare, and
3. that the abuse of girls by lesbians is rarer still.
If we define the phrase "homosexual abuse of children" in the first
statement to mean adults molesting and abusing children of the same sex,
then this statement is true: Child sexual abuse is widespread. It is
perpetrated by males in the vast majority of cases. And a substantial
minority of their victims are boys. Data relating to men abusing boys is
hungrily pounced upon by opponents to equal rights for homosexuals, who
often use it against both gays and lesbians in civil rights battles. But it
is not homosexuals, as the term is generally understood, who are responsible
for the abuse. It is rather pedophiles who are attracted to children, and
have decided to abuse them.
However, if we define the phrase "abuse of boys by gays", and "abuse of
girls by lesbians" to mean adult persons with a homosexual orientation
abusing children of the same sex, then these statements 2 and 3 above are
also true. Gays and lesbians rarely abuse children.
The fact behind these conflicting statements is that most pedophiles are not
homosexuals! Or to put it another way, most homosexual molestation is not
done by homosexuals.
And then you have the Catholic priest...
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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07 Mar 2007 05:37:18 AM |
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On 6 Mrz., 13:57, "bob&carole" <bobandcarol...@hotmail.com> wrote:
X-No-Archive:
On Mar 5, 11:34?pm, Bibon <bibon@r?lant.org> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:34:51 GMT, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
It's possible that she had a tiny web site, using her ISP's web
service, got religion, and with the religion came some funding to make
the thing look more real as advertising for the religious right wing's
anti-gay agenda, at which point the web site designer was hired.
Size really is important to you homos, isn't it?
Nope, that accounts for the vast number of homosexual pedophiles.
Funny that the only time you and your partner bibon contribute
something is when you see words like "gay" and "homo" in the title...
Ever thought of coming out of the closet?
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| User: "Mettas Mother" |
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06 Mar 2007 11:53:39 AM |
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Sex, rape, paedophilia, bestiality, incest, homosexuality,
heterosexuality, intersexuality, asexuality, bisexuality,
polysexuality and polyamorous are all acts of nature.
"bob&carole" <bobandcarole02@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1173185851.351741.81420@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
X-No-Archive:
On Mar 5, 11:34?pm, Bibon <bibon@r?lant.org> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:34:51 GMT, No One <n...@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
It's possible that she had a tiny web site, using her ISP's web
service, got religion, and with the religion came some funding to make
the thing look more real as advertising for the religious right wing's
anti-gay agenda, at which point the web site designer was hired.
Size really is important to you homos, isn't it?
Nope, that accounts for the vast number of homosexual pedophiles.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
05 Mar 2007 07:56:31 PM |
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zzpat wrote:
Did you see the whois creation date? December 29, 2006.
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=venusmagazine&tld=org
Fascinating.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Hollywood: Where people from Iowa mistake each other for movie stars.
--Fred Allen
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
04 Mar 2007 09:26:38 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 02:00:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> writes:
On 4 Mar 2007 14:19:00 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794182/posts
Magazine publisher accepts Christ, leaves homosexual lifestyle
Prediction: She'll be back in a lesbian relationship within a year. As
the good book puts it, the leopard doesn't change her spots...
I did a google search for Venus Magazine and got
<http://www.venusmagazine.org/>, which did have the alleged article.
According to <http://www.venusmagazine.org/about.html>, the magazine
grew "from a regional 5,000 copies per issue in 1995 to 38,000 copies
per issue," so we can assume that this is not exactly a major
publication.
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
04 Mar 2007 11:00:07 PM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 02:00:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> writes:
On 4 Mar 2007 14:19:00 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794182/posts
Magazine publisher accepts Christ, leaves homosexual lifestyle
Prediction: She'll be back in a lesbian relationship within a year. As
the good book puts it, the leopard doesn't change her spots...
I did a google search for Venus Magazine and got
<http://www.venusmagazine.org/>, which did have the alleged article.
According to <http://www.venusmagazine.org/about.html>, the magazine
grew "from a regional 5,000 copies per issue in 1995 to 38,000 copies
per issue," so we can assume that this is not exactly a major
publication.
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
Why don't you try to act like an adult? It really isn't that
difficult.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
05 Mar 2007 02:25:39 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:00:07 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 02:00:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> writes:
On 4 Mar 2007 14:19:00 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@warpmail.net> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794182/posts
Magazine publisher accepts Christ, leaves homosexual lifestyle
Prediction: She'll be back in a lesbian relationship within a year. As
the good book puts it, the leopard doesn't change her spots...
I did a google search for Venus Magazine and got
<http://www.venusmagazine.org/>, which did have the alleged article.
According to <http://www.venusmagazine.org/about.html>, the magazine
grew "from a regional 5,000 copies per issue in 1995 to 38,000 copies
per issue," so we can assume that this is not exactly a major
publication.
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
Why don't you try to act like an adult? It really isn't that
difficult.
The truth bust your *****, doesn't it...
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
05 Mar 2007 10:00:58 AM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:00:07 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
Why don't you try to act like an adult? It really isn't that
difficult.
The truth bust your *****, doesn't it...
The truth is that you are an embarrassment to yourself.
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
05 Mar 2007 02:10:12 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:00:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:00:07 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
Why don't you try to act like an adult? It really isn't that
difficult.
The truth bust your *****, doesn't it...
The truth is that you are an embarrassment to yourself.
You're the only one who thinks and the reason is because I do such a
great job of busting your homphilic *****.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
05 Mar 2007 03:18:03 PM |
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Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:00:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:00:07 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
Why don't you try to act like an adult? It really isn't that
difficult.
The truth bust your *****, doesn't it...
The truth is that you are an embarrassment to yourself.
You're the only one who thinks and the reason is because I do such a
great job of busting your homphilic *****.
Of the two of us, I'll agree that I am "the only one who thinks" (what
you literally said even though it is not what you meant). Everyone
knows that you've done nothing but make a fool of yourself! In your
latest post, you even managed to insult yourself and didn't even know
it!
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| User: "Bibon" |
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| Title: Re: Gay Magazine Publisher Accepts Christ, Leaves Homosexual Lifestyle |
05 Mar 2007 10:21:32 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:18:03 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:00:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:00:07 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
Bibon <bibon@râlant.org> writes:
"Size" is everything to you ***** suckers isn't it...
Why don't you try to act like an adult? It really isn't that
difficult.
The truth bust your *****, doesn't it...
The truth is that you are an embarrassment to yourself.
You're the only one who thinks and the reason is because I do such a
great job of busting your homphilic *****.
Of the two of us, I'll agree that I am "the only one who thinks" (what
you literally said even though it is not what you meant). Everyone
knows that you've done nothing but make a fool of yourself! In your
latest post, you even managed to insult yourself and didn't even know
it!
AH, look at the boy whimper. Isn't he so fragile...
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