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03 Dec 2007 02:08:06 PM |
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Gay rumours eclipse Condi's glory moment |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2983771.ece
IT SHOULD have been Condoleezza Rice's finest hour as US secretary of state:
at last President George W Bush was hosting a Middle East peace conference
that she had been struggling to organise for months.
Yet when Rice's photograph appeared on the front page of America's
bestselling weekly newspaper last week, it had nothing to do with her
peacemaking efforts. She had been dragged into a National Enquirer article
headlined "Who's Gay and Who's Not".
The article revived long-standing Washington gossip about Rice's sexuality
and sparked off the usual flurry of internet chatter about her high-profile
role in a Republican administration widely regarded as hostile to gays.
It also underlined the increasing friction in American politics between a
high-minded media establishment disdainful of bedroom gossip and the
no-holds-barred, consumer-driven world of instant internet scandal. A Google
search of the words "Condoleezza" and "lesbian" last week yielded 146,000
hits.
Rice was not alone in falling victim to what the US media elite invariably
decries as corrupted journalistic standards but what the rest of America
seems to regard as the real story in Washington: who is sleeping with whom?
While most leading US newspapers were preoccupied with serious policy issues
such as Iraq and illegal immigration, New York tabloids were feasting on
startling new details about Rudolph Giuliani, the city's former mayor, who
is alleged to have concealed the cost of the security protection he needed
while on secret trysts with his then mistress.
Giuliani dismissed the allegations as a "political hit job" and "dirty
trick" that just happened to pop up hours before a key televised debate
between Republican presidential candidates. Although it appeared that
Giuliani had done nothing illegal, the fuss refocused attention on his
colourful private life and may damage his appeal to conservative voters.
Political insiders also noted that the detailed allegations, including
documented evidence of the accounts used to hide Giuliani's potentially
embarrassing expenses, were published not by a newspaper but by
Politico.com, an increasingly influential website.
The mainstream US media also managed to ignore one of the most read
political stories on the internet last week, an account in The Times about a
dirty-tricks campaign in South Carolina, including anonymous allegations
that Senator Hillary Clinton is having an affair with Huma Abedin, a female
member of her campaign staff. Democrat officials dismissed the allegations
as an obvious attempt to smear the frontrunning presidential candidate.
The former senator John Edwards, Clinton's Democratic rival, felt the
tabloid lash when the Enquirer claimed he too was having an affair with a
campaign aide while his cancer-stricken wife campaigned on his behalf
elsewhere. Edwards denounced the story as "false, completely untrue,
ridiculous" and said the Enquirer had failed to produce evidence "because it's
made up".
The steady flow of salacious and often thinly sourced sex-related stories is
causing headaches for US newspaper editors, who have been bludgeoned by
shrinking circulations and internet competition yet are still clinging to
values described by one blogger last week as "snoozy, prissy and haughty".
The drift towards internet-fuelled sensationalism was deemed to be so
serious earlier this year that the Columbia Journalism Review, a bastion of
US media elitism, convened a panel of top editors to consider whether the
government should step in to subsidise serious newspapers as a valuable
public service, along the lines of the BBC.
The Enquirer described its article as "the ultimate guessing game among
Hollywood fans - trying to figure out which big-name stars are gay". The
report went on: "According to the buzz among political insiders, it's an
open secret that . . . Rice is gay."
The piece quoted an unnamed "in-the-know" blogger as saying that during her
years as provost of Stanford University in California, Rice was "completely
out as a lesbian and it was not a scandal, just a reality". The paper
referred to reports that in 1998 Rice bought a house with a "special friend",
another unmarried woman, a film-maker named Randy Bean.
It was far from the first time that she had been linked to lesbian rumours.
In a recent biography of Rice, Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post's
diplomatic correspondent, noted that Bean, described as a "liberal
progressive", was her "closest female friend". It was Kessler who discovered
from a search of property records that Rice and Bean owned a house together.
Rice does not comment on her private life, and she is not an elected
official, so her sexuality has never been a campaign issue. But the gay
community has long been troubled by her association with conservative
Republicans opposed to gay marriage, and with evangelical Christians who
regard homosexuality as a sin.
At one point last year Rice was regarded as a possible Republican candidate
in the 2008 White House race. Yet most commentators agreed that she was
reluctant to run, and a Washington Post columnist concluded that she was
"the longest of long shots", as it indeed turned out.
The columnist Chris Cillizza made no mention of Rice's sexuality, and it
took an internet reader named Anne Roifes to remind the Post that high
journalistic standards sometimes miss the point.
"It is widely believed in gay circles that Condi is a lesbian," Roifes
commented. "That could be one reason she will not run."
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J Young
jyoungvisions@aol.com
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04 Dec 2007 06:11:15 PM |
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"J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
IT SHOULD have been Condoleezza Rice's finest hour
as US secretary of state:
Condi went from being the worst National Security Advisor
in the history of the nation -- missing 9/11 entirely -- to the
worst Secretary of State in our nation's history.
Her "finest hour" will be the hour she ceases to pollute our
government with her presence.
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04 Dec 2007 06:53:40 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:11:15 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
mumbled:
Her "finest hour" will be the hour she ceases to pollute our
government with her presence.
And yours when you DIE!
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05 Dec 2007 02:19:52 AM |
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Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
And
Condi is a worthless *****, and so aren't you.
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| User: "jim bronson" |
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05 Dec 2007 11:15:45 AM |
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On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 00:19:52 -0800 (PST), JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
mumbled:
Condi is a worthless *****
Drop damned dead.
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| User: "Curt" |
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04 Dec 2007 06:30:03 PM |
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"J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1eudfi.q8.17.1@news.alt.net...
The article revived long-standing Washington gossip about Rice's sexuality
and sparked off the usual flurry of internet chatter about her
high-profile
role in a Republican administration widely regarded as hostile to gays.
I'd never heard any such rumors. Does anyone give a rat's butt if Condi's
gay?
Curt
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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04 Dec 2007 06:15:15 PM |
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On Dec 4, 7:30 pm, "Curt" <c...@hevanet.com> wrote:
"J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote in message
The article revived long-standing Washington gossip about Rice's sexuality
and sparked off the usual flurry of internet chatter about her
high-profile
role in a Republican administration widely regarded as hostile to gays.
I'd never heard any such rumors. Does anyone give a rat's butt if Condi's
gay?
I don't give a rat's butt about her private life. I only care about
her competence in office and she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent. She's just another yes man and no country can
prosper with an administration full of yes men, telling the leader
what he wants to hear instead of what actually is.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
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| User: "Sir Sam" |
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04 Dec 2007 06:54:07 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:15:15 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> mumbled:
she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent.
*****!
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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04 Dec 2007 07:27:22 PM |
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On Dec 4, 7:54 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:15:15 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent.
*****!
Then where's Osama? She was National Security Advisor and now
Secretary of State. If she was the least bit competent we'd have in
our custody the man primarily responsible for 9/11. It's been over six
years and he's still at-large. If we are to take the War on Terror
seriously, we have to put as our priority the man largely responsible
for the terrorists' most significant victory. The fact that Rice has
not done so is the most blatant evidence of her ineptitude. We got
McVeigh without mobilizing half the nation. Why is Osama so elusive?
If Rice truly is competent, as you so eloquently suggest, then the
only explanation that we don't have Osama in custody is that it is
beneficial to the Party that he remains at-large and that the failure
to capture him is a deliberate action on the part of the
administration.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
"The current use of the National Guard is wrong... These are men who
did not sign up to go occupy foreign nations." - Governor Jesse
Ventura (I-MN), Army Times interview, 6 September 2004, two years
before the unconstitutional federalization of the National Guard in
the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007
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04 Dec 2007 07:43:04 PM |
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Lord Calvert <CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> wrote:
On Dec 4, 7:54 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:15:15 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent.
*****!
Then where's Osama? She was National Security Advisor and now
Secretary of State. If she was the least bit competent we'd have in
our custody the man primarily responsible for 9/11. It's been over six
years and he's still at-large. If we are to take the War on Terror
seriously, we have to put as our priority the man largely responsible
for the terrorists' most significant victory. The fact that Rice has
not done so is the most blatant evidence of her ineptitude. We got
McVeigh without mobilizing half the nation. Why is Osama so elusive?
If Rice truly is competent, as you so eloquently suggest, then the
only explanation that we don't have Osama in custody is that it is
beneficial to the Party that he remains at-large and that the failure
to capture him is a deliberate action on the part of the
administration.
So you Approve of Invading Pakistan.
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04 Dec 2007 10:07:09 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:27:22 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 7:54 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:15:15 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent.
*****!
Then where's Osama?
Dead.
In hiding.
Off the table by any measure - next!
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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04 Dec 2007 10:57:49 PM |
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On Dec 4, 11:07 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:27:22 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 7:54 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:15:15 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent.
*****!
Then where's Osama?
Dead.
In hiding.
Off the table by any measure - next!
Or posting on Usenet under a psedonym...like Sir Sam.
Now, go back to your cave. Condi should be sending your your food and
weapons crate anytime now, Osama.
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
'I'd say it's the ***** stupidest foreign policy blunder this
country's ever made!'" - Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), regarding the
Reagan administration's decision to arm Ayatollah Khomeni in 1986.
Reagan was also the man who originally armed Osama bin Laden starting
in the early 1980s.
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| User: "Sir Sam" |
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04 Dec 2007 11:05:03 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:57:49 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 11:07 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:27:22 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 7:54 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:15:15 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeG...@msn.com> mumbled:
she has repeatedly proven that she is
simply not competent.
*****!
Then where's Osama?
Dead.
In hiding.
Off the table by any measure - next!
Or posting on Usenet under a psedonym..
Lieberals resemble that, yes...
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04 Dec 2007 11:05:03 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:57:49 -0800 (PST), Lord Calvert
<CalvertdeGrey@msn.com> mumbled:
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03 Dec 2007 02:26:49 PM |
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On 3 Dez., 21:08, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article29...
IT SHOULD have been Condoleezza Rice's finest hour as US secretary of state:
at last President George W Bush was hosting a Middle East peace conference
that she had been struggling to organise for months.
What's wrong with Condoleezza Rice's private life? That it is private?
What consequences does it have on her performance as a politicians?
I have to admit though that I find extremely amusing that another
Republican is victim of this typical rightard witch-hunt.
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04 Dec 2007 03:57:20 AM |
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On Dec 3, 9:08 pm, "J Young" <jyoungvisi...@aol.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article29...
IT SHOULD have been Condoleezza Rice's finest hour as US secretary of state:
at last President George W Bush was hosting a Middle East peace conference
that she had been struggling to organise for months.
Yet when Rice's photograph appeared on the front page of America's
bestselling weekly newspaper last week, it had nothing to do with her
peacemaking efforts. She had been dragged into a National Enquirer article
headlined "Who's Gay and Who's Not".
Being a female, black lesbian (alleged) doesn't make Condescenda Rice
a bad person - it's all the other stuff that does.
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| User: "Sir Sam" |
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04 Dec 2007 10:23:14 AM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladgate@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
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04 Dec 2007 10:36:08 AM |
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On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
See OP.
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04 Dec 2007 11:06:54 AM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:36:08 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladgate@hotmail.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
See OP.
No - CITE!
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04 Dec 2007 05:14:16 PM |
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On Dec 4, 5:06 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:36:08 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
See OP.
No - CITE!
Well, to save you the onerous task of going all the way back to the
post that started this thread, I shall cut and paste the link for you.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article29...
I will further add the following http://www.dictionary.com in case you
need to check the meaning of alleged.
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04 Dec 2007 05:49:59 PM |
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Nosterill wrote:
On Dec 4, 5:06 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:36:08 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
See OP.
No - CITE!
Well, to save you the onerous task of going all the way back to the
post that started this thread, I shall cut and paste the link for you.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article29...
I will further add the following http://www.dictionary.com in case you
need to check the meaning of alleged.
Save your time on this one.
Sir Sam is just the latest alias of the EasyNews troll Spammy Sam.
He's dumber than a sack of sticks.
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04 Dec 2007 06:32:01 PM |
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Bill Allen wrote:
Sir Sam is just the latest alias of the EasyNews troll Spammy Sam.
He's dumber than a sack of sticks.
At least a sack of sticks has some use. spammie has none.
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dgs
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04 Dec 2007 07:27:23 PM |
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"dgs" <dgs1300@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5rm9s1F14n5f6U1@mid.individual.net...
Bill Allen wrote:
Sir Sam is just the latest alias of the EasyNews troll Spammy Sam.
He's dumber than a sack of sticks.
At least a sack of sticks has some use. spammie has none.
What's the old.. "She's like a Slinky. Basically useless, but you still
smile to see her fall downstairs."
Curt
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04 Dec 2007 10:07:10 PM |
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On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:27:23 -0800, "Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> mumbled:
"dgs" <dgs1300@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5rm9s1F14n5f6U1@mid.individual.net...
Bill Allen wrote:
Sir Sam is just the latest alias of the EasyNews troll Spammy Sam.
He's dumber than a sack of sticks.
At least a sack of sticks has some use. spammie has none.
What's the old.. "She's like a Slinky. Basically useless, but you still
smile to see her fall downstairs."
Curt
And you're like silly putty, a cheap reprint, easily reformed.
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04 Dec 2007 06:55:14 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:32:01 -0800, dgs <dgs1300@gmail.com> mumbled:
At least a sack of sticks has some use.
So your self esteem is back?
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05 Dec 2007 12:01:23 AM |
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On Dec 4, 11:49 pm, Bill Allen <B...@knowspann.org> wrote:
Nosterill wrote:
On Dec 4, 5:06 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:36:08 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
See OP.
No - CITE!
Well, to save you the onerous task of going all the way back to the
post that started this thread, I shall cut and paste the link for you.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article29...
I will further add the followinghttp://www.dictionary.comin case you
need to check the meaning of alleged.
Save your time on this one.
Sir Sam is just the latest alias of the EasyNews troll Spammy Sam.
He's dumber than a sack of sticks
Thanks. I was beginning to form that opinion myself :-)
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04 Dec 2007 06:51:16 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:49:59 -0600, Bill Allen <BA@knowspann.org>
mumbled:
Nosterill wrote:
On Dec 4, 5:06 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:36:08 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
On Dec 4, 5:23 pm, Sir Sam <n...@cru.sade> wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 01:57:20 -0800 (PST), Nosterill
<fladg...@hotmail.com> mumbled:
black lesbian (alleged)
CITE!!!!!!!!!!
See OP.
No - CITE!
Well, to save you the onerous task of going all the way back to the
post that started this thread, I shall cut and paste the link for you.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article29...
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03 Dec 2007 02:22:15 PM |
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Porno boy "J Young" <jyoungvisions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1eudfi.q8.17.1@news.alt.net...
A Google search of the words "Condoleezza" and "lesbian" last week
yielded 146,000 hits.
So...you obviously spent alot of time Googling last week.
Really has your panties in a twist, doesn't it?:
"I think lesbians are just fine.I ain't a Bible thumper I keep telling you."
From: (Jon Young)
Message-ID: <25e1e54f.0405042102.51d060e5@posting.google.com>
LC~ "J's" obsessions are only exceeded by his neuroses.
"You seem to spend alot of time,thought,and energy thinking about and
writing about homosexuals. I wonder..........?????"
From: (Jon Young)
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