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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "IKnowHimDoYou"
Date: 18 Jun 2004 10:06:09 AM
Object: Genetic Morality?
Genetic Morality?
The evolutionists claim that we are only the products of naturalism with
all our genes pre-programed in what they term the "genetic imperative".
Dawkins has posited the idea of memes(computer like copying) which lets us
do whatever our memes tell us to do. Yet at the same time these poor lost
souls also posit that you should not hurt or harm them, for that would be
immoral and unjust! Perhaps they are claiming a "gene for justice" or a
"gene for morality" in this memetic sewer? Remember, Voltaire would only
hire Christians as servants because they would not steal from him and he
could not trust his evolutionary friends to be honest!
God has placed within us all something much better than a mindless meme.
He has given us a conscience(with knowledge) to know what is right(moral,
just) and what is wrong(immoral, unjust). This is what the evolutionists
are trying to suppress(example: murder of 6 million Jews by reason of
evolution-they were only untermenchen).
The whole idea of evolution is only an illusion of men who are trying to
evade reality(nihilism) and their own personal responsiblity for their own
behavior and in the end it won't work. It never does.
We shall all be held to account.
.

User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 12:21:11 PM
Great Lord
(IKnowHimDoYou), braving the
raging storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Fri, 18 Jun
2004 08:06:09 -0700 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.

God has placed within us all something much better than a mindless meme.
He has given us a conscience(with knowledge) to know what is right(moral,
just) and what is wrong(immoral, unjust). This is what the evolutionists
are trying to suppress(example: murder of 6 million Jews by reason of
evolution-they were only untermenchen).

You've never raised children.
Until taught otherwise, children attack, bite, steal whatever they
like, and happily crap where they stand. You have to teach a child to
be a member of society, and that stealing isn't nice, that you should
hit people with your toy truck, etc.
The most effective way to do this is to appeal to a small child's
selfishness.. "would you like it if someone took *your* toy?" "do you
like it when Mike hits *you*?" This method makes the child consider
his own reaction to situations.
I've had the displeasure of having to deal with people who weren't
given this sort of early education.. they are bloody animals, barely
fit for polite company. The person I'm thinking of felt no guilt at
breaking ither people's things. eating their food (in one memorable
case, a woman's birthday cake before her party) and ignoring social
rules as he liked.
Saddest thing was, he was a born-again Christian who smugly announced
"hey, Jesus forgives me!" after each act.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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User: "Robert Schneider"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 03:18:53 PM
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:np86d0lrsm21ree56oqukij2clb31jrcdi@4ax.com...

Great Lord

(IKnowHimDoYou), braving the
raging storm, scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Fri, 18 Jun
2004 08:06:09 -0700 and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.

God has placed within us all something much better than a mindless meme.
He has given us a conscience(with knowledge) to know what is right(moral,
just) and what is wrong(immoral, unjust). This is what the evolutionists
are trying to suppress(example: murder of 6 million Jews by reason of
evolution-they were only untermenchen).


You've never raised children.

Until taught otherwise, children attack, bite, steal whatever they
like, and happily crap where they stand. You have to teach a child to
be a member of society, and that stealing isn't nice, that you should
hit people with your toy truck, etc.

The most effective way to do this is to appeal to a small child's
selfishness.. "would you like it if someone took *your* toy?" "do you
like it when Mike hits *you*?" This method makes the child consider
his own reaction to situations.

I've had the displeasure of having to deal with people who weren't
given this sort of early education.. they are bloody animals, barely
fit for polite company. The person I'm thinking of felt no guilt at
breaking ither people's things. eating their food (in one memorable
case, a woman's birthday cake before her party) and ignoring social
rules as he liked.

Saddest thing was, he was a born-again Christian who smugly announced
"hey, Jesus forgives me!" after each act.

No doubt he will be one of those people who don't "truly" find god until
they have been in prison for five years.

--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

.


User: "Paul Duca"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 09:20:32 PM
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

Genetic Morality?

The evolutionists claim that we are only the products of naturalism with
all our genes pre-programed in what they term the "genetic imperative".
Dawkins has posited the idea of memes(computer like copying) which lets us
do whatever our memes tell us to do. Yet at the same time these poor lost
souls also posit that you should not hurt or harm them, for that would be
immoral and unjust! Perhaps they are claiming a "gene for justice" or a
"gene for morality" in this memetic sewer? Remember, Voltaire would only
hire Christians as servants because they would not steal from him and he
could not trust his evolutionary friends to be honest!

God has placed within us all something much better than a mindless meme.
He has given us a conscience(with knowledge) to know what is right(moral,
just) and what is wrong(immoral, unjust). This is what the evolutionists
are trying to suppress(example: murder of 6 million Jews by reason of
evolution-they were only untermenchen).

The whole idea of evolution is only an illusion of men who are trying to
evade reality(nihilism) and their own personal responsiblity for their own
behavior and in the end it won't work. It never does.

We shall all be held to account.

Not that the reward for being approved is any good...
Paul
.

User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 02:21:54 PM
In article <IKnowHim-1806040806090001@pm1-27.kalama.com>,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:

Genetic Morality?

Dead end strategy for you, KnoKnothing. You weren't very high up in the
military, were you? No officer training. Never read Sun Tzu or
Clausewitz. Pity.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 19 Jun 2004 07:58:30 AM
He can read both Clausewitz and Sun Tzu at www.sonshi.com
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message news:<nemo0037-B3A845.15215418062004@news04.east.earthlink.net>...

In article <IKnowHim-1806040806090001@pm1-27.kalama.com>,
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:

Genetic Morality?


Dead end strategy for you, KnoKnothing. You weren't very high up in the
military, were you? No officer training. Never read Sun Tzu or
Clausewitz. Pity.

.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 12:56:44 PM
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:06:09 -0700 in episode
<IKnowHim-1806040806090001@pm1-27.kalama.com> we saw our hero
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou):

Remember, Voltaire would only
hire Christians as servants because they would not steal from him and he
could not trust his evolutionary friends to be honest!

And yet you lie constantly.
Funny how that works...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 02:29:24 PM
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:06:09 -0700,

(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:

Remember, Voltaire would only
hire Christians as servants because they would not steal from him and he
could not trust his evolutionary friends to be honest!

I guess you're not a Christian, then, as you're one of the most
dishonest posters I've ever run across.
.

User: "Carol Lee Smith"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 01:10:25 PM
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, IKnowHimDoYou wrote:

Dawkins has posited the idea of memes(computer like copying) which lets us
do whatever our memes tell us to do. ...

Now that gets the prize for the absolutely most outrageous distortion of
memetics I have ever seen.
.

User: "Keenan Clay Wilkie"

Title: Re: Genetic Morality? 18 Jun 2004 06:44:17 PM
Post archived for another complaint to his ISP for this constant spamming
along with a mention of the FAQ and the specific rule that this spammer's
post violates.
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