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Religions > Atheism |
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"Budikka666" |
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11 Oct 2006 12:51:29 AM |
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George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm
(Wednesday, 3 April, 2002)
"The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North
Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country's own
nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
"Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is
building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel
oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.
"In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the
Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it
has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original
reactors.
President Bush argued that the decision was 'vital to the national
security interests of the United States'."
Budikka
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
11 Oct 2006 06:58:19 AM |
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On 10 Oct 2006 17:51:29 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm
(Wednesday, 3 April, 2002)
"The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North
Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country's own
nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
"Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is
building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel
oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.
"In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the
Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it
has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original
reactors.
President Bush argued that the decision was 'vital to the national
security interests of the United States'."
The problem is that North Korea has no reason to trust the USA.
We have stationed nuclear missiles in South Korea, targeted at the
North for decades.
The US took sides against them in what was actually a civil war - the
former French colony of Indo-China was artificially partitioned
between two factions when the French withdrew.
Partition always causes problems, because each wants a single country,
but run their way. We have always been too quick to support the half
whose political system we like, treating it as though it were old
country rather than a new one, and the other half as another old one
with aggressive intentions against the good guys.
When partition (on the rare occasions it is be necessary) should be
merely the start of attempts to reconcile their differences. Which you
can't do if you take sides.
The "axis of evil" speech" followed by the invasion or Iraq after
making sure it had been stripped of what little effective weaponry it
had, sent North Korea a message, that the US is still in denial about.
If Iraq had actually had the weapons we lied about, we wouldn't have
invaded.
Budikka
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
11 Oct 2006 11:08:26 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 17:51:29 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm
(Wednesday, 3 April, 2002)
"The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North
Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country's own
nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
"Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is
building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel
oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.
"In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the
Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it
has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original
reactors.
President Bush argued that the decision was 'vital to the national
security interests of the United States'."
The problem is that North Korea has no reason to trust the USA.
We have stationed nuclear missiles in South Korea, targeted at the
North for decades.
The US took sides against them in what was actually a civil war - the
former French colony of Indo-China was artificially partitioned
between two factions when the French withdrew.
Partition always causes problems, because each wants a single country,
but run their way. We have always been too quick to support the half
whose political system we like, treating it as though it were old
country rather than a new one, and the other half as another old one
with aggressive intentions against the good guys.
When partition (on the rare occasions it is be necessary) should be
merely the start of attempts to reconcile their differences. Which you
can't do if you take sides.
The "axis of evil" speech" followed by the invasion or Iraq after
making sure it had been stripped of what little effective weaponry it
had, sent North Korea a message, that the US is still in denial about.
If Iraq had actually had the weapons we lied about, we wouldn't have
invaded.
I find it hilarious that Bush just announced he's not going to attack
N. Korea. I mean - who knew?! Does he really believe that any nation
thinks he can attack anyone right now?! He has two deteriorating wars
that someone has to extricate him from before he can attack anyone, and
both the DPRK and Iran know it. That's why they're being so defiant.
Budikka
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
13 Oct 2006 09:40:47 PM |
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On 11 Oct 2006 16:08:26 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote in alt.atheism
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 17:51:29 -0700, "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm
(Wednesday, 3 April, 2002)
"The US Government has announced that it will release $95m to North
Korea as part of an agreement to replace the Stalinist country's own
nuclear programme, which the US suspected was being misused.
"Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is
building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel
oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built.
"In releasing the funding, President George W Bush waived the
Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it
has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original
reactors.
President Bush argued that the decision was 'vital to the national
security interests of the United States'."
The problem is that North Korea has no reason to trust the USA.
We have stationed nuclear missiles in South Korea, targeted at the
North for decades.
The US took sides against them in what was actually a civil war - the
former French colony of Indo-China was artificially partitioned
between two factions when the French withdrew.
Partition always causes problems, because each wants a single country,
but run their way. We have always been too quick to support the half
whose political system we like, treating it as though it were old
country rather than a new one, and the other half as another old one
with aggressive intentions against the good guys.
When partition (on the rare occasions it is be necessary) should be
merely the start of attempts to reconcile their differences. Which you
can't do if you take sides.
The "axis of evil" speech" followed by the invasion or Iraq after
making sure it had been stripped of what little effective weaponry it
had, sent North Korea a message, that the US is still in denial about.
If Iraq had actually had the weapons we lied about, we wouldn't have
invaded.
I find it hilarious that Bush just announced he's not going to attack
N. Korea. I mean - who knew?!
Anyone with an IQ above the freezing point of water.
Does he really believe that any nation
thinks he can attack anyone right now?! He has two deteriorating wars
that someone has to extricate him from before he can attack anyone, and
both the DPRK and Iran know it. That's why they're being so defiant.
There's nothing to fight *with.*
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
14 Oct 2006 12:01:49 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Damn. Looks like all of usenet agrees that you don't have the logical
faculties to prove the statement 'dogshit is not peanut butter' if we
gave you a jar of each and a box of crackers" - John Hattan to Tichy
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
14 Oct 2006 07:22:08 AM |
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In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
14 Oct 2006 09:39:43 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
15 Oct 2006 06:22:41 AM |
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In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
15 Oct 2006 09:01:59 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
16 Oct 2006 05:32:37 AM |
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In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
18 Oct 2006 04:50:18 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
19 Oct 2006 06:41:40 AM |
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In article <tpmcj2tpc5gs8d9iaklalcpmr2j3h6ah85@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance
standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and
other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with
Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the
use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
They'll have to find that Hitler Youth marching song book again.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
19 Oct 2006 11:02:21 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:41:40 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tpmcj2tpc5gs8d9iaklalcpmr2j3h6ah85@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance
standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and
other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with
Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the
use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
They'll have to find that Hitler Youth marching song book again.
"Onward Christian Soldiers."
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
20 Oct 2006 04:45:30 AM |
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In article <fv0gj2h89lfe9ak73crl84oiiop3p39dr4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:41:40 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tpmcj2tpc5gs8d9iaklalcpmr2j3h6ah85@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance
standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting
standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and
other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with
Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of
Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the
use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
They'll have to find that Hitler Youth marching song book again.
"Onward Christian Soldiers."
With Jerry Falwell dressed as a drum majorette leading them.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: George W. Bush Funded N. Korea's Nukes |
22 Oct 2006 04:04:26 PM |
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On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:45:30 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fv0gj2h89lfe9ak73crl84oiiop3p39dr4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:41:40 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tpmcj2tpc5gs8d9iaklalcpmr2j3h6ah85@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance
standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting
standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and
other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with
Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of
Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the
use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
They'll have to find that Hitler Youth marching song book again.
"Onward Christian Soldiers."
With Jerry Falwell dressed as a drum majorette leading them.
With an iron ***** in his mouth.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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23 Oct 2006 06:39:21 AM |
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In article <nj5nj2lm601bvg30b0unr7l1ksqge15f0p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:45:30 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <fv0gj2h89lfe9ak73crl84oiiop3p39dr4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 23:41:40 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tpmcj2tpc5gs8d9iaklalcpmr2j3h6ah85@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:32:37 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <od85j2pndkcna37m9o1i5jhnmen5u50lh6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:22:41 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <c8m2j2t2c0nqqn58q1gu5rb74n2ahucpu3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 00:22:08 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance
standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch
of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting
standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad
and
other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated
with
Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of
Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in
the
use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
They'll have to find that Hitler Youth marching song book again.
"Onward Christian Soldiers."
With Jerry Falwell dressed as a drum majorette leading them.
With an iron ***** in his mouth.
And a bigger one up his butt.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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25 Oct 2006 01:41:07 AM |
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On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:39:21 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <nj5nj2lm601bvg30b0unr7l1ksqge15f0p@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:45:30 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net>
wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance
standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch
of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting
standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad
and
other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated
with
Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of
Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in
the
use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
Have a field day bearing heavy metal.
And not the musical genre either.
Of course not. The beat isn't reich.
Heavy metal has the wrong beat for marching in jack boots.
It's not bloody enough.
They'll have to find that Hitler Youth marching song book again.
"Onward Christian Soldiers."
With Jerry Falwell dressed as a drum majorette leading them.
With an iron ***** in his mouth.
And a bigger one up his butt.
Yes.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Voracious" |
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14 Oct 2006 08:06:31 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <o4a0j21dgpjvj0599vts6hb0dvubfb3khj@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Actually this is quite worrisome. With the lower recruiting standards,
gang related graffiti has begun showing up on walls in Baghdad and other
places. Worse, some of it appears to be racist and associated with Aryan
Nation groups. Now isn't that smart, recruiting a bunch of Neonazis,
skinheads, and other assorted gang bangers and training them in the use
of heavy weapons? What will they do when they get back?
If the American networks' exposes of NeoNazi and Nationalist groups here
is accurate to any degree, these types already have the means to learn
weapons training (including assault weaponry). In any case, it's not a
good idea to give them training with such armament in battlefield
conditions.
Voracious
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Oct 2006 11:15:42 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 08:06:31 GMT, Voracious <null@void.org> wrote:
If the American networks' exposes of NeoNazi and Nationalist groups here
is accurate to any degree, these types already have the means to learn
weapons training (including assault weaponry). In any case, it's not a
good idea to give them training with such armament in battlefield
conditions.
According to someone who spent a few years over there, in uniform, a
HUGE percentage of the current US military is racist and most of those
are neo-Nazi, survivalist, Nationalist or somewhere in that group.
But they'll be good boys and behave themselves when they come back.
(Maybe Bush's idea of never ending the war has some merit.)
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
- "Pro-Life" doctor killer and corpse Paul Hill
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "stoney" |
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14 Oct 2006 09:38:53 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:01:49 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:40:47 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
There's nothing to fight *with.*
Even just on the current fronts. We had to lower acceptance standards
to meet last month's recruitment standards.
Yes.
Pretty soon the standard will be "Breathing? If yes, branch of
service assigned to?"
Like his best bud Herr Shickelgruber.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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14 Oct 2006 09:59:12 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The problem is that North Korea has no reason to
trust the USA.
History says exactly the opposite.
Back in the late 40s/early 50s, the U.S. went pretty
light on south Korea's defenses. We wouldn't even
sell them tanks!
Why? Because we knew the mood in south Korea
and were afraid that if we built up their military they
would use it to launch their own war of unification.
Of course, the north ended up breaking the peace...
Since the Korean war the U.S. was given no shortage
of reasons to go to war in Korea again. Everything
from kidnapping & assasination to selling weapons
and technology to other rogue states. Then there's
also the U.S. naval vessel they seized on the high
seas and maintain to this day as a floating museum.
North Korea has given us more than enough reasons
to go to war with them over the years, and we haven't.
We have stationed nuclear missiles in South Korea,
targeted at the North for decades.
And north Korea had been (and still is) targeting
millions of CIVILIANS with artillary & rockets, many
of them chemical and/or biological.
About the only way of ever taking out those thousands
of weapons placements -- before they have a chance of
exhausting all their ammunition (being resupplied &
exhausting it again) -- is with nuclear weapons.
Shed all the crocodile tears you want, but no sane
person would agree with your claims that allowing
millions of civilians to die would be better.
Or do you want the U.S. and south Korea to respond
with chemical & biological weapons, too?
Would that satisfy your diseased sense of justice?
The US took sides against them in what was actually
a civil war - the former French colony of Indo-China was
artificially partitioned between two factions when the
French withdrew.
You've confused Korea with Vietnam. Seriously, you're
not even close to the truth.
Korea was Japanese Disneyland, and effectively had
been since 1907.
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