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01 Jul 2004 12:55:37 PM |
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Giant Hippos Roamed Britain in Warmer Past |
By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - A huge find of fossils in Eastern England has revealed a
pre-glacial period when the area basked in temperatures now more closely
associated with the African savannah, scientists said on Thursday.
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants have
been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive mammoths,
rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the distant past.
"This is a very significant find," said palaeontologist Simon Parfitt at
London's Natural History Museum. "The site is unique in that we have this
huge variety of different species all perfectly preserved."
The site, inland from the East Anglian port of Lowestoft, was a steamy
coastal swamp 700,000 years ago.
The herds of animals that lived and died there were either quickly eaten or
equally quickly buried in the soft earth to lie undisturbed until several
thousand years later -- a blink of an eye in geological terms -- the ice
came.
"The ice brought with it huge quantities of glacial deposits as well as
itself being about one kilometer thick," Parfitt said. "When it retreated it
left behind a geological time capsule. These fossils are 10-15 meters under
the surface."
The perfect state of preservation of the fossil remains has provided the
scientists with a wealth of information and previously unseen detail.
They have found the clear marks of hyena teeth on the bones of one of the
hippos and, close by, droppings that could well have come from the same
hyenas.
But most intriguing of all is the clear evidence of climate change that can
been seen through the layers of fossils -- unearthed by chance in a gravel
pit -- as the climate slowly cooled and the ice age arrived.
"It is a very rich environment. We have a clear picture of how the climate
changed. We can see the switch to the glacial system," Parfitt said. "We can
start to interpret the landscape."
The fossils collected to date go on show from Thursday at the Natural
History museum as part of its Festival of Fossils.
Scientists are also seeking evidence of early man at the site which is now
some 15 km inland from the Norfolk coast, but so far with no luck.
"It would be wonderful if we found some worked flints or a hand axe. But it
is almost literally like looking for a needle in a haystack," Parfitt added.
And time is not on their side. In just six months the whole site will be
lost again, covered over and returned to agricultural use.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=5559910
John
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Giant Hippos Roamed Britain in Warmer Past |
01 Jul 2004 01:27:22 PM |
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The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants have
been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive mammoths,
rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the distant past.
Robbie Coltrane, Ian McNeice and John Savident could not be reached for comment
:}
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "JPG" |
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01 Jul 2004 03:40:02 PM |
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On 01 Jul 2004 18:27:22 GMT, forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert)
wrote:
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants have
been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive mammoths,
rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the distant past.
Robbie Coltrane, Ian McNeice and John Savident could not be reached for comment
John Savident couldn't be reached for comment? I say, John Savident
couldn't be reached for comment.
I was thinking more of Vanessa Feltz, Fern Britten and Pam Ferris
:}
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: Giant Hippos Roamed Britain in Warmer Past |
02 Jul 2004 11:13:06 PM |
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forlornh@aol.complicated (Lord Calvert) astounded us with:
news:20040701142722.26478.00001147@mb-m03.aol.com:
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants
have been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive
mammoths, rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the
distant past.
Robbie Coltrane, Ian McNeice and John Savident could not be reached for
comment
Boom-tish, that's pretty mean Rich
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Phÿltêr
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Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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03 Jul 2004 09:13:04 AM |
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The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants
have been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive
mammoths, rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the
distant past.
Robbie Coltrane, Ian McNeice and John Savident could not be reached for
comment
Boom-tish, that's pretty mean Rich
Should have I included Brian Blessed? :}
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "jojo" |
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| Title: Re: Giant Hippos Roamed Britain in Warmer Past |
01 Jul 2004 01:03:47 PM |
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John Watson wrote:
By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - A huge find of fossils in Eastern England has revealed
a pre-glacial period when the area basked in temperatures now more closely
associated with the African savannah, scientists said on Thursday.
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants have
been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive mammoths,
rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the distant past.
In the millions of years since, they've slowly evolved into their current
forms: the House of Commons and the House of Lords.
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Jojo
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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01 Jul 2004 07:04:25 PM |
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Great Lord jojo <joejoe@an-address.org>, braving the raging storm,
scaled the mighty crag called alt.atheism on Thu, 01 Jul 2004 18:03:47
GMT and screamed this to the uncaring Gods.
John Watson wrote:
By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - A huge find of fossils in Eastern England has revealed
a pre-glacial period when the area basked in temperatures now more closely
associated with the African savannah, scientists said on Thursday.
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants have
been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive mammoths,
rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the distant past.
In the millions of years since, they've slowly evolved into their current
forms: the House of Commons and the House of Lords.
I thought commons descended from jackyls.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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01 Jul 2004 07:37:21 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:55:37 GMT, "John Watson"
<JW2@aol.com> posted thusly:
By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - A huge find of fossils in Eastern England has revealed a
pre-glacial period when the area basked in temperatures now more closely
associated with the African savannah, scientists said on Thursday.
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants have
been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive mammoths,
rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the distant past.
"This is a very significant find," said palaeontologist Simon Parfitt at
London's Natural History Museum. "The site is unique in that we have this
huge variety of different species all perfectly preserved."
The site, inland from the East Anglian port of Lowestoft, was a steamy
coastal swamp 700,000 years ago.
<chuckle>
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| User: "John Ings" |
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01 Jul 2004 08:10:22 PM |
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On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 20:37:21 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
The site, inland from the East Anglian port of Lowestoft, was a steamy
coastal swamp 700,000 years ago.
<chuckle>
Genesis 1:6 And God said, “Let there be a dome in the midst of the
waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” 7 So God made
the dome and separated the waters that were under the dome from the
waters that were above the dome. And it was so. 8 God called the dome
Sky. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.
<guffaw!>
## This is another fine myth you've gotten me into!
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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01 Jul 2004 07:35:35 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach John Watson:
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants
have been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive
mammoths, rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the
distant past.
It's been conjectured that some of the dinosaurs as reconstructed from the
remains discovered could not have existed, simply because they would have
been too heavy to walk, stand, sit, or otherwise support themselves. Would
this perhaps suggest that the earth's gravity may have been very different
30 million years ago?
OK, the source of my statement is a fiction book, hence the use of the word
"conjecture", but it was written by Michael Crichton. His character's
conclusion was that the dinosaurs could have lived on Saturn's moon, Titan,
died when it cooled beyond the scope of life support, then crashed on earth
as the result of some catastrophic asteroid collision, distributing their
remains thusly.
Fiction can be fun.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
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chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "HLS" |
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02 Jul 2004 06:01:41 AM |
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I have no doubt that some of the fossil records have been misinterpreted.
This is totally to be expected.
However, the mass of the fossil record is so enormous,
the evidence so overwhelming, that a person would have
to lie to himself to ignore it.
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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01 Jul 2004 10:48:01 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:35:35 GMT, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach John Watson:
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants
have been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive
mammoths, rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the
distant past.
It's been conjectured that some of the dinosaurs as reconstructed from the
remains discovered could not have existed, simply because they would have
been too heavy to walk, stand, sit, or otherwise support themselves. Would
this perhaps suggest that the earth's gravity may have been very different
30 million years ago?
OK, the source of my statement is a fiction book, hence the use of the word
"conjecture", but it was written by Michael Crichton. His character's
conclusion was that the dinosaurs could have lived on Saturn's moon, Titan,
died when it cooled beyond the scope of life support, then crashed on earth
as the result of some catastrophic asteroid collision, distributing their
remains thusly.
Fiction can be fun.
Yes, it can. :-) I assume gravity was at least a _little_ different
here back then. Years were at one time 400 days long, with the days
being 22 hours or so (I may mis-recall the details somewhat, but you
get the gist of the sentiment). Bound to have some impact on the
gravitational experience, though probably more negligible than it
might sound like it should be. I dunno'... I'll leave it up to the
experts to fill ya' in. ;-)
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L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "Hypatia Kosh" |
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02 Jul 2004 03:25:44 PM |
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(Uncle Dollar Bill) wrote in message news:<410cda77.12618543@newsgroups.bellsouth.net>...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:35:35 GMT, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach John Watson:
The bones of seven-tonhippos half as big again as today's descendants
have been found alongside those of horses, hyenas, deer, primitive
mammoths, rodents and plants giving an unprecedented insight into the
distant past.
It's been conjectured that some of the dinosaurs as reconstructed from the
remains discovered could not have existed, simply because they would have
been too heavy to walk, stand, sit, or otherwise support themselves. Would
this perhaps suggest that the earth's gravity may have been very different
30 million years ago?
OK, the source of my statement is a fiction book, hence the use of the word
"conjecture", but it was written by Michael Crichton. His character's
conclusion was that the dinosaurs could have lived on Saturn's moon, Titan,
died when it cooled beyond the scope of life support, then crashed on earth
as the result of some catastrophic asteroid collision, distributing their
remains thusly.
Fiction can be fun.
Yes, it can. :-) I assume gravity was at least a _little_ different
here back then. Years were at one time 400 days long, with the days
being 22 hours or so (I may mis-recall the details somewhat, but you
get the gist of the sentiment). Bound to have some impact on the
gravitational experience, though probably more negligible than it
might sound like it should be. I dunno'... I'll leave it up to the
experts to fill ya' in. ;-)
No effect, since standing on the Earth's surface you aren't in motion
w/r/t the Earth.
-Hypatia
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