Religions > Atheism > Gilder: "Darwinian materialism is an embarrassing cartoon of modern science"
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"david ford" |
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09 Oct 2004 09:27:09 PM |
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Gilder: "Darwinian materialism is an embarrassing cartoon of modern science" |
Gilder, George. Gilder publishes the _Gilder Technology Report_ and
is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Here "The technogeek
guru of bandwidth utopia defends intelligent design and explains why
he is a believer." From
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/evolution.html?pg=5
Our high schools are among the worst performers per dollar in the
world - especially in math and science. Our biology classes, in
particular, espouse anti-industrial propaganda about global warming
and the impact of DDT on the eggshells of eagles while telling just-so
stories about the random progression from primordial soup to Britney
Spears. In a self-refuting materialist superstition, teachers deny
the role of ideas and purposes in evolution and hence implicitly in
their own thought.
The Darwinist materialist paradigm, however, is about to face the same
revolution that Newtonian physics faced 100 years ago. Just as
physicists discovered that the atom was not a massy particle, as
Newton believed, but a baffling quantum arena accessible only through
mathematics, so too are biologists coming to understand that the cell
is not a simple lump of protoplasm, as Charles Darwin believed. It's
a complex information-processing machine comprising tens of thousands
of proteins arranged in fabulously intricate algorithms of
communication and synthesis. The human body contains some 60 trillion
cells. Each one stores information in DNA codes, processes and
replicates it in three forms of RNA and thousands of supporting
enzymes, exquisitely supplies the system with energy, and seals it in
semipermeable phospholipid membranes. It is a process subject to the
mathematical theory of information, which shows that even mutations
occurring in cells at the gigahertz pace of a Pentium 4 and selected
at the rate of a Google search couldn't beget the intricate interwoven
fabric of structure and function of a human being in such a short
amount of time. Natural selection should be taught for its important
role in the adaption of species, but Darwinian materialism is an
embarrassing cartoon of modern science.
What is the alternative? Intelligent design at least asks the right
questions. In a world of science that still falls short of a rigorous
theory of human consciousness or of the big bang, intelligent design
theory begins by recognizing that everywhere in nature, information is
hierarchical and precedes its embodiment. The concept precedes the
concrete. The contrary notion that the world of mind, including
science itself, bubbled up randomly from a prebiotic brew has inspired
all the reductionist futilities of the 20th century, from Marx's
obtuse materialism to environmental weather panic to zero-sum
Malthusian fears over population. In biology classes, our students
are not learning the largely mathematical facts of 21st-century
science; they're imbibing the consolations of a faith-driven
19th-century materialist myth.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Gilder: "Darwinian materialism is an embarrassing cartoon ofmodern science" |
09 Oct 2004 10:08:38 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 02:45:10 +0000 in episode
<vu-dnelWEJUXPvXcRVn-rg@comcast.com> we saw:
<piggybacking>
david ford wrote:
Gilder, George. Gilder publishes the _Gilder Technology Report_ and is
a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Here "The technogeek guru
of bandwidth utopia defends intelligent design and explains why he is a
believer." From
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/evolution.html?pg=5
Our high schools are among the worst performers per dollar in the world
- especially in math and science. Our biology classes, in particular,
espouse anti-industrial propaganda about global warming and the impact
of DDT on the eggshells of eagles while telling just-so stories about
the random progression from primordial soup to Britney Spears. In a
self-refuting materialist superstition, teachers deny the role of ideas
and purposes in evolution and hence implicitly in their own thought.
The Darwinist materialist paradigm, however, is about to face the same
revolution that Newtonian physics faced 100 years ago.
<snort>
"Revolution" only in the sense that the US falling back into superstition
and barbarism.
There is no "revolution" Ford. Evolution is backed by and based on the
evidence and accepted by all but a tiny sliver of a bit of minuscule of
"scientists" who if they have degrees at all rarely have them in the
relevant sciences. ID is backed by religious fervor.
And that's that.
Maybe the US will reject science. It's looking that way more each day.
That merely means we'll descend into third world status and be left behind.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
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| User: "U.O" |
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| Title: Re: Gilder: "Darwinian materialism is an embarrassing cartoon ofmodern science" |
12 Oct 2004 10:40:08 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:lemdnbQjvpaRNPXcRVn-vg@megapath.net...
[snip]
Maybe the US will reject science. It's looking that way more each day.
That merely means we'll descend into third world status and be left
behind.
Cheer up. Doublethink will come to the rescue. Some scientific lies can
still be useful, like geology when searching for oil. It is not blasphemy to
act on the hypothesis that Earth is 4.5 billion years old, as long as we
have a strong, unshakable faith in the holy fact that it's really 6000
years. Textbook writers will just have to provide both numbers; the apparent
one and the irrefutable one. This might confuse some close-minded
simpletons, but that's a minor problem.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Gilder: "Darwinian materialism is an embarrassing cartoon ofmodern science" |
12 Oct 2004 12:07:03 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 15:40:08 +0000 in episode
<Q_Sad.341$0k1.140@amstwist00> we saw our hero "U.O"
<km_anka@hotmail.com>:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:lemdnbQjvpaRNPXcRVn-vg@megapath.net...
[snip]
Maybe the US will reject science. It's looking that way more each day.
That merely means we'll descend into third world status and be left
behind.
Cheer up. Doublethink will come to the rescue. Some scientific lies can
still be useful, like geology when searching for oil. It is not blasphemy
to act on the hypothesis that Earth is 4.5 billion years old, as long as
we have a strong, unshakable faith in the holy fact that it's really 6000
years. Textbook writers will just have to provide both numbers; the
apparent one and the irrefutable one. This might confuse some close-minded
simpletons, but that's a minor problem.
Won't work over the long run. Such as once you run out of oil (which we
will at some point) and you have to come up with something new, you won't
have an educated populace capable of doing research.
Sure you can loot what remains for a while. Some years even. But that's
only going to get you so far...
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This sig closed for repairs.
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| User: "AC" |
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| Title: Re: Gilder: "Darwinian materialism is an embarrassing cartoon ofmodern science" |
10 Oct 2004 11:39:58 AM |
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david ford wrote:
Gilder, George. Gilder publishes the _Gilder Technology Report_ and
is a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. Here "The technogeek
guru of bandwidth utopia defends intelligent design and explains why
he is a believer." From
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/evolution.html?pg=5
Our high schools are among the worst performers per dollar in the
world - especially in math and science. Our biology classes, in
particular, espouse anti-industrial propaganda about global warming
and the impact of DDT on the eggshells of eagles while telling just-so
stories about the random progression from primordial soup to Britney
Spears. In a self-refuting materialist superstition, teachers deny
the role of ideas and purposes in evolution and hence implicitly in
their own thought.
<snip>
I doubt you're going to do anything to defend this article, David, but
if you feel at all like doing so for this post, perhaps you could tell
us what is being taught in other parts of the world that the US must be
falling behind? For instance, what do science classes in Germany, Japan
and CAnada teach, David? Do they teach ID, David? If they do not, then
doesn't the entire premise collapse, and this article reveal itself as
nothing more than a rather pathetic piece of rhetoric?
--
Aaron Clausen
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
"My illness is due to my doctor's insistence that I drink milk, a
whitish fluid they force down helpless babies." - WC Fields
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