On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, "Steve" <steve@nospam.net> wrote:

"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

If an exchange between Rudy Giuliani and top Democrats is a preview of

next

year's general election campaign, Republicans have reason to be a lot

more

confident than they have been these past few months.
It's happening again. Now the claim that "if a Democrat is elected

president

in 2008, America will be at risk for another terrorist attack
<snipped for clarity>

Short of a veritable miracle from Heaven, or an alien spacecraft
landing in plain view on the White House lawn in front of God and
everybody, or Newt Gingrich pulling a magic rabbit out of his hat
at the last minute, Republicans can kiss the White House goodbye.
(They could always start a nuclear war, that might do the trick?)
The GOP has become Anti-Conservative, and have thereby lost their
Conservative voting base. Without Conservatives batting in their
corner for the next election, the Republicans don't stand a snow-
ball's chance in Hell of winning the election, and the Democrats
shall assuredly thrash the Anti-Conservative Republi-cons bloody!

Wrong. Democrats have who? Hillary and Obama? That's worse than John Kerry.

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Underestimating Hillary Clinton is an error that will soon become
a real mistake if you don't correct it. John Kerry was unelectable
in any case, regardless of whether he was telling the truth or not
about the extent of war crimes in Vietnam, which like any war, all
sides are guilty of, to some degree or another. Truly, war is hell.

Obama might end up running as VP under Hillary, or possibly the
other way around. And what if Al Gore steps in? Who would be his
running mate, Hillary? John Edwards? Obama? It'll be interesting
to see how the [D] field of candidates gets winnowed down in the
coming months.

As for the [R]epublican field of candidates, Conservatives aren't
about to vote for a Liberal--no matter how much lipstick they try
to put on that pig. And if they continue down the "moderate" path,
even Hillary could begin to resemble a "moderate" in the eyes of
disenfranchised Conservative voters. And if the Republicans don't
shape up, and right soon, I'm not the only Conservative who would
vote for Hillary, whether she runs for President or Vice-President.
At least we've had eight years to become acquainted with her (and
who would be the first First Gentleman) in the White House. I see
Hillary's cunning and intestinal fortitude as points in her favor.

Either will drive even reluctant conservatives to the polls to support the
lessor of two evils.

You're dreaming. I suppose you believe that all of us "reluctant"
Conservatives are also Anti-Christian Atheists and card-carrying
members of the A.C.L.U. Hell, we all belong to NAMBLA, and love
our gay pride parades. We are very happy that America has become
the most decadent and corrupt nation since the founding of Babel.
We Conservatives all believe that Judeo-Christianity is nothing
but garbage for brain-dead morons. And we support Abortion, too,
and the wholesale anarchy and chaos that is engulfing the nation.
Venal judges & lawyers dragging this country down into the abyss,
Hard-line Anti-Christian Atheist public schools, violence, drugs.
Ten Commandments? Golden Rules? It's all just a bunch of garbage.
Yes, we Conservatives are going to vote for a Liberal Republican...

On a cold day in Hell!

The GOP has a file cabinet bulging with as yet unaired
Hillary scandals just waiting to be used.

Every powerful politician gets embroiled in scandal. It's part of
being a politician. More power = more corruption. Everybody knows
that. Take the "Arkancides", for example. Those didn't stop Bill
& Hillary from moving into the White House. So whatever "scandal"
balloons get floated on FOXNEWS approaching the election, I doubt
that too many registered Democrats will care one way or the other.
They'll be thinking of only one thing: how much they hate NeoCons,
the Bush administration, and Republicans in general. Payback time!

And don't forget, that scandal-blade cuts both ways. You can bet
the DNC-doctors aren't just sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
But they're honing their edge, too, in preparation for the battle.

And we all know this much, "Bush-fatigue" has transcended merely
the family name, but has tainted the Republican party across-the-
board. When voters go to the polls Tuesday November 4th 2008 AD,
they're going to be thinking "anybody but Bush!", hence "anybody
but the [R]epublicans!" If both candidates are Liberals, then we
Conservatives will be strongly inclined to vote for the Democrat.
Voting for a "Liberal Republican" sounds like we'd be voting for
a "Jewish NAZI". But voting for a Liberal Democrat sounds normal.

If the Republicans do take a hard-Right turn at the next exit,

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:26:23 -0600 (MDT), Borked Pseudo Mailed
<nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote:

American Conservatives, especially those of the right-wing
Christian variety, will *NOT* vote for a Liberal Republican.

That's why Newt is going to run - and win.

"Perhaps the meek shall inherit the Earth, but they'll do it
in very small plots - about 6' by 3'."
-- Robert A. Heinlein

I am a ***** fart.