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User: "Budikka666"
Date: 16 Jan 2008 06:37:24 PM
Object: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs!
"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long forelimbs."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm
No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.
Budikka
.

User: "Mr. B"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 16 Jan 2008 06:53:15 PM
Budikka666 wrote:


No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

I disagree with the assertion that ID proponents would be left speechless at
this. They would probably claim that this is a clear demonstration of the
intelligent design behind life on Earth.
-- B
P.S. Why post this in a JW group? AA and ATC should suffice.
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 17 Jan 2008 02:18:53 AM
In article
<e8398b64-7206-4c76-a6f5-ab82fa627b46@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long forelimbs."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut only gawd can do that!
I'd like to hear what the creationist have to say about that!
Nice articles!


Budikka

--
John #1782
.
User: "ken"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 17 Jan 2008 11:49:49 AM
On Jan 17, 12:18=A0am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

No surprises here. =A0Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.


B-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut only gawd can do that!

I'd like to hear what the creationist have to say about that!

Nice articles!

Budikka

John #1782
BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?
.
User: "Mike Johannson"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 17 Jan 2008 04:57:11 PM
"ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?
Hey, this technique may work with those who suffer severe brain damage in
accidents.
.
User: "Mike"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 06:18:30 AM
Mike Johannson wrote:


"ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?

Hey, this technique may work with those who suffer severe brain damage
in accidents.

You mean like in baptisms and other such religious ceremonies?
.
User: "Mike Johannson"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 05:22:51 PM
"Mike" <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote in message
news:fmq5em$88j$2@news04.infoave.net...

Mike Johannson wrote:


"ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?

Hey, this technique may work with those who suffer severe brain damage in
accidents.


You mean like in baptisms and other such religious ceremonies?

You got it! <wink wink>
.

User: "James Beck"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 08:27:26 AM
In article <fmq5em$88j$2@news04.infoave.net>,

says...

Mike Johannson wrote:


"ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?

Hey, this technique may work with those who suffer severe brain damage
in accidents.


You mean like in baptisms and other such religious ceremonies?

How does the saying go?
The only problem with baptisms is they don't hold 'em down long enough.
.



User: "johac"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 12:27:59 AM
In article
<f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
ken <flakey714@aol.com> wrote:

On Jan 17, 12:18 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

No surprises here.  Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.


B-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut only gawd can do that!

I'd like to hear what the creationist have to say about that!

Nice articles!

Budikka


John #1782

BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?

I think it would be rejected.
--
John #1782
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 19 Jan 2008 12:39:10 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-2749B6.22275917012008@news.giganews.com...

In article
<f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
ken <flakey714@aol.com> wrote:

On Jan 17, 12:18 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.


B-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut only gawd can do that!

I'd like to hear what the creationist have to say about that!

Nice articles!

BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?


I think it would be rejected.

It would have to be directed to the part of the brain
that makes people religious, so it could repair the
damage.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 20 Jan 2008 12:11:18 AM
In article <vYmdnaW0FIGTBgzanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-2749B6.22275917012008@news.giganews.com...

In article
<f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6dfc@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
ken <flakey714@aol.com> wrote:

On Jan 17, 12:18 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.


B-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut only gawd can do that!

I'd like to hear what the creationist have to say about that!

Nice articles!

BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?


I think it would be rejected.


It would have to be directed to the part of the brain
that makes people religious, so it could repair the
damage.

For some cases. tht might require a full brain transplant.
--
John #1782
.
User: "meg"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 21 Jan 2008 10:37:54 PM
On Jan 19, 10:11 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

In article <vYmdnaW0FIGTBgzanZ2dnUVZ_s6mn...@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:



"johac" <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-2749B6.22275917012008@news.giganews.com...

In article
<f84890c7-e67d-4883-988a-ce88f54d6...@q39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:


On Jan 17, 12:18 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:


No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.


B-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut only gawd can do that!


I'd like to hear what the creationist have to say about that!


Nice articles!


BUT, if one was to attach a "grow a brain" gene to a creationut, would
an actual working brain develop, or would the same non-functioning
mass of cells located in there still fail to function properly?


I think it would be rejected.


It would have to be directed to the part of the brain
that makes people religious, so it could repair the
damage.


For some cases. tht might require a full brain transplant.
--
John #1782

Give a turd a bat gene and you get Hilliary Clinton.
.






User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 16 Jan 2008 06:54:23 PM
In article <e8398b64-7206-4c76-a6f5-ab82fa627b46@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> writes:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long forelimbs."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.

And yet another fine example of evo-devo (or devo-evo, or groovy-
evo, or whatever they're calling developmental evolutionary
biology): it's not so much a matter of developing new genetic
software as it is of simply changing a few switch settings
in the pre-existing program.
-- cary

Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

Budikka

.

User: "ZeroPoint"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 04:35:33 AM
On Jan 16, 7:37 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long forelimbs."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

Budikka

Actually, This goes into the field again of an advance genetic
engineering by a far superior civilization with the intent of
terraforming, no evolution required.
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 11:16:30 AM
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:35:33 -0800 (PST), ZeroPoint
<zodriol@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:37 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long forelimbs."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

Budikka


Actually, This goes into the field again of an advance genetic
engineering by a far superior civilization with the intent of
terraforming, no evolution required.

But where did the superior civilization come from?
.
User: "Mike Johannson"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 18 Jan 2008 05:24:16 PM
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:mmn1p39i2v0bssiumfj15o34ub1frnpnn6@4ax.com...

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:35:33 -0800 (PST), ZeroPoint
<zodriol@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:37 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long
forelimbs."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm

No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

Budikka


Actually, This goes into the field again of an advance genetic
engineering by a far superior civilization with the intent of
terraforming, no evolution required.


But where did the superior civilization come from?

They were created by an even older superior civilization?



.
User: "Mike"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 19 Jan 2008 07:28:35 AM
Mike Johannson wrote:


"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:mmn1p39i2v0bssiumfj15o34ub1frnpnn6@4ax.com...

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:35:33 -0800 (PST), ZeroPoint
<zodriol@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:37 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long
forelimbs."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm


No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

Budikka


Actually, This goes into the field again of an advance genetic
engineering by a far superior civilization with the intent of
terraforming, no evolution required.


But where did the superior civilization come from?


They were created by an even older superior civilization?

It's turtles all the way down!
.
User: "Don Martin"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 19 Jan 2008 09:41:28 AM
Just don't hit it on the label.
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 19 Jan 2008 04:57:06 PM
Mike <prabbit1@shamrocksgf.com> wrote in
news:fmstu3$vdq$1@news04.infoave.net:

Mike Johannson wrote:


"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:mmn1p39i2v0bssiumfj15o34ub1frnpnn6@4ax.com...

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:35:33 -0800 (PST), ZeroPoint
<zodriol@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:37 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson
Cancer Center reports that they have successfully switched the
mouse Prx1 gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory
region from a bat -- and although these two species are separated
by millions of years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice
displayed abnormally long
forelimbs."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/08011417392
3.htm


No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.

Budikka


Actually, This goes into the field again of an advance genetic
engineering by a far superior civilization with the intent of
terraforming, no evolution required.


But where did the superior civilization come from?


They were created by an even older superior civilization?


It's turtles all the way down!

Damn! Beat me to it.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
". . . believing in things that aren't true doesn't make you deep, it
just makes you wrong."
-The Atheist Barmaid
.



User: "Budikka666"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 19 Jan 2008 07:34:21 AM
On Jan 18, 11:16 am, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:35:33 -0800 (PST), ZeroPoint



<zodr...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:37 pm, Budikka666 <budik...@netscape.net> wrote:

"A research team led by Dr. Richard Behringer at MD Anderson Cancer
Center reports that they have successfully switched the mouse Prx1
gene regulatory element with the Prx1 gene regulatory region from a
bat -- and although these two species are separated by millions of
years of evolution -- the resulting transgenic mice displayed
abnormally long forelimbs."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080114173923.htm


No surprises here. Exactly what the evolutionists would expect.
Unfortunately, no creationist or so-called intelligent so-called
design advocate can adequately account for this.


Budikka


Actually, This goes into the field again of an advance genetic
engineering by a far superior civilization with the intent of
terraforming, no evolution required.


But where did the superior civilization come from?

Now why did you have to go ask an intelligent question like that? Are
you deliberately *trying* to scare him off?...Oh...Okay. I'll just go
over here and be quiet....
Budikka
.



User: ""

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 16 Jan 2008 08:25:17 PM
that's kind of funny. It proves that some rabbits are related to
glowing jelly fish.
.
User: "Ye Old One"

Title: Re: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 17 Jan 2008 04:06:59 AM
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:25:17 -0800 (PST),
enriched
this group when s/he wrote:

that's kind of funny. It proves that some rabbits are related to
glowing jelly fish.

ALL rabbits are related to jelly fish.
It is about time your learned some basic science McClueless.
Oh, any comment on the McClueless Video Challenge?
--
Bob.
.

User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Give a Mouse a Bat Gene - It Starts to Grow Bat Limbs! 16 Jan 2008 10:52:20 PM
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:25:17 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

that's kind of funny. It proves that some rabbits are related to
glowing jelly fish.

Moron.
Where's that video, McDickweed?
.



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