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13 Jun 2006 10:37:37 PM |
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God and man |
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
And if man is made in God's image, and God is the king of the universe,
then would not man's God-given nature be likewise to want to be like
God?
And since obedience is not something that God does, would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey - would not obedience simply not
be part of man's nature, as being made in God's image - the same God
who takes orders from nobody and instead creates and dispenses as He
chooses to?
Is this then not a solution to human condition?
No, not any of the stupid psychoanalytic stuff; but rather simply this:
That God creates, not obeys, and transcends His own laws to make
miracles;
That something made in God's image would have the same nature;
And to ask someone to obey, when He is made in God's image, is to go
against the nature that God gave him - His own nature?
So is then the fault for the fall with the Serpent's deceptiveness and
Eve's gullibility?
Or was this built into the mechanism, created by God?
And if God loved Adam, but gave Adam His own nature, then would it not
stand to reason that Adam would want to go his way, no matter how much
God loved him, as being made in God's image that's simply what he was
created to do?
So the corruption we see from the Fall - is it not an inevitability,
given what God made man to be?
Would not obedience be against the nature of any creature made in God's
image, since God obeys nobody?
And would not self-will be the nature of all such creatures, with this
flaw being a result not of the Fall and not of Satan, but as direct
consequence of God's craftsmanship?
Ilya Shambat.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: God and man |
14 Jun 2006 04:02:13 AM |
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<ibshambat2004@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
Have you been out in the sun too long?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: God and man |
04 Jul 2006 10:03:23 AM |
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ibshambat2004@hotmail.com
Re: God and man
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
And if man is made in God's image, and God is the king of the universe,
then would not man's God-given nature be likewise to want to be like
God?
And since obedience is not something that God does, would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey - would not obedience simply not
be part of man's nature, as being made in God's image - the same God
who takes orders from nobody and instead creates and dispenses as He
chooses to?
Is this then not a solution to human condition?
No, not any of the stupid psychoanalytic stuff; but rather simply this:
That God creates, not obeys, and transcends His own laws to make
miracles;
That something made in God's image would have the same nature;
And to ask someone to obey, when He is made in God's image, is to go
against the nature that God gave him - His own nature?
So is then the fault for the fall with the Serpent's deceptiveness and
Eve's gullibility?
Or was this built into the mechanism, created by God?
And if God loved Adam, but gave Adam His own nature, then would it not
stand to reason that Adam would want to go his way, no matter how much
God loved him, as being made in God's image that's simply what he was
created to do?
So the corruption we see from the Fall - is it not an inevitability,
given what God made man to be?
Would not obedience be against the nature of any creature made in God's
image, since God obeys nobody?
And would not self-will be the nature of all such creatures, with this
flaw being a result not of the Fall and not of Satan, but as direct
consequence of God's craftsmanship?
Ilya Shambat.
Ilya,
Being made in God's image, doesn't mean that humans take on all the
characteristics of God, such as decide for ourselves what is right and
wrong. That is precisely what got Adam and Eve into trouble.
No, rather the "image" of God that humans have, is a small portion of
God's moral qualities, such as love, justice, wisdom, and power, not
God's universal sovereignty.
Actually, humans were clearly NOT designed to function without God's
help and be totally independent. One look around the mess humans have
make of this world by doing just that, should be convincing evidence.
As a prophet of God showed us at Jer 10:23,
"I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man
to direct his steps." (NIV)
Sincerely, James
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Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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04 Jul 2006 10:33:13 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:03:23 -0400, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
ibshambat2004@hotmail.com
Re: God and man
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
And if man is made in God's image, and God is the king of the universe,
then would not man's God-given nature be likewise to want to be like
God?
And since obedience is not something that God does, would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey - would not obedience simply not
be part of man's nature, as being made in God's image - the same God
who takes orders from nobody and instead creates and dispenses as He
chooses to?
Is this then not a solution to human condition?
No, not any of the stupid psychoanalytic stuff; but rather simply this:
That God creates, not obeys, and transcends His own laws to make
miracles;
That something made in God's image would have the same nature;
And to ask someone to obey, when He is made in God's image, is to go
against the nature that God gave him - His own nature?
So is then the fault for the fall with the Serpent's deceptiveness and
Eve's gullibility?
Or was this built into the mechanism, created by God?
And if God loved Adam, but gave Adam His own nature, then would it not
stand to reason that Adam would want to go his way, no matter how much
God loved him, as being made in God's image that's simply what he was
created to do?
So the corruption we see from the Fall - is it not an inevitability,
given what God made man to be?
Would not obedience be against the nature of any creature made in God's
image, since God obeys nobody?
And would not self-will be the nature of all such creatures, with this
flaw being a result not of the Fall and not of Satan, but as direct
consequence of God's craftsmanship?
Ilya Shambat.
Ilya,
Being made in God's image, doesn't mean that humans take on all the
characteristics of God, such as decide for ourselves what is right and
wrong. That is precisely what got Adam and Eve into trouble.
No, rather the "image" of God that humans have, is a small portion of
God's moral qualities, such as love, justice, wisdom, and power, not
God's universal sovereignty.
Actually, humans were clearly NOT designed to function without God's
help and be totally independent. One look around the mess humans have
make of this world by doing just that, should be convincing evidence.
As a prophet of God showed us at Jer 10:23,
"I know, O LORD, that a man's life is not his own; it is not for man
to direct his steps." (NIV)
Sincerely, James
Unlike most other fundies, you write as though you actually believe
your religion to be true. That's probably one of the reasons I enjoy
reading your posts. You state them matter-of-factly and as though
you'd spent a long while thinking them out.
(I have no doubt, though, that you'd fail to adequately defend your
superstitions if and when you're challenged here.)
--
Gospel Bretts
aa Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whosoever would believe in Him would believe all sorts of
other ridiculous nonsense as well.
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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14 Jun 2006 06:48:30 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, poured
fuel on the fire with the following:
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
I hate when that happens.
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
How profound.
[ snip the Twenty Questions ]
And would not self-will be the nature of all such creatures, with this
flaw being a result not of the Fall and not of Satan, but as direct
consequence of God's craftsmanship?
It has often been suggested that your deity is an incompetent bungler.
Your point?
Regards,
Josef
I prefer to think that God is not dead, just drunk.
-- John Marcellus Huston
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| User: "Vlad" |
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14 Jun 2006 09:14:39 AM |
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Man created god in his own image. Lots of men created lots of gods.
Every tribe created it's own god in any image they wanted. Yes, god is
man's creation.
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Two ways to improve your life.
1. Turn off the TV.
2. Throw it out the window.
Vlad the Impaler
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| User: "James" |
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04 Jul 2006 10:07:28 AM |
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Vlad <Roddy9@verizon.net>
Re: God and man
Man created god in his own image. Lots of men created lots of gods.
Every tribe created it's own god in any image they wanted. Yes, god is
man's creation.
Hello,
You are welcome to your own opinion. But many disagree with you based
on the evidence, not just wishful thinking. What evidence do you have
to back up your claim?
Sincerely, James
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Want a FREE home Bible study?
Have Jehovah's Witnesses questions?
Go to the authorized source:
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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04 Jul 2006 11:03:16 AM |
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James <bireda@allvantage.com> wrote:
Vlad <Roddy9@verizon.net>
Re: God and man
Man created god in his own image. Lots of men created lots of gods.
Every tribe created it's own god in any image they wanted. Yes, god is
man's creation.
Hello,
You are welcome to your own opinion. But many disagree with you based
on the evidence, not just wishful thinking. What evidence do you have
to back up your claim?
How about virtually every religious book, painting or statue ever
created? Show me one description of a Christian or Muslim god that isn't
anthropomorphic. Men create gods in their own image because gods are a
product of human imagination, nothing more.
Sheesh...
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| User: "thomas p" |
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05 Jul 2006 06:05:24 AM |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 11:07:28 -0400, James <bireda@allvantage.com>
wrote:
Vlad <Roddy9@verizon.net>
Re: God and man
Man created god in his own image. Lots of men created lots of gods.
Every tribe created it's own god in any image they wanted. Yes, god is
man's creation.
Hello,
You are welcome to your own opinion. But many disagree with you based
on the evidence, not just wishful thinking.
You have no evidence.
What evidence do you have
to back up your claim?
Why do you claim to have evidence?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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13 Jun 2006 11:03:39 PM |
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On 13 Jun 2006 20:37:37 -0700, wrote:
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
And if man is made in God's image, and God is the king of the universe,
then would not man's God-given nature be likewise to want to be like
God?
And since obedience is not something that God does, would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey
<snip>
It would depend on the nature of the god in question. I assume you mean the
Christian god, YHWH. Even if YHWH had only half a brain, he'd be more than
willing to obey something wiser and more powerful than him because he'd know
that wiser and more powerful is better and - being all-merciful and whatnot -
YHWH would definitely prefer "better". That something wiser and more powerful
than YHWH could not exist in this pantheon would not be YHWH's fault - he
-would- be obedient had he the chance to do so, but such would never happen.
So there you have it, the answer is, "No, something made in YHWH's image would
-not- be loathe to obey." Unless you wish to assign the "loathe to obey"
attribute to YHWH for no good reason, of course.
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
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The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
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"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
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"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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14 Jun 2006 02:23:45 AM |
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"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:i82v82l4159gc91v86siua035uvnitmo1d@4ax.com...
On 13 Jun 2006 20:37:37 -0700, wrote:
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
*Who* was 'talking' about *What*?? You might as well have said, 'Trimus from
the planet Korg was talking about his ... ' It would be just as 'real'. And
prove that ain't so.
And if
Curious choice of words there. Even you used the word 'if' instead of
'when'. Even you recognize that there really isn't anything to hang on the
word 'when'. So you have to resort to the word 'if' in a lame attempt to
give any sort of credence to the notion that there even is a 'God' at all.
man is made in God's image, and God is the king of the universe,
Do you have *any* idea how baseless that assumption is?
then would not man's God-given nature be likewise to want to be like
God?
Like *who*? You talk as if this 'God' is a 'real' creature. Guess what? He's
not!
And since obedience is not something that God does,
And just how in the Hell would you know that? Based on what evidence? Go
ahead. Tell everyone who is reading your post how *you*, personally, *know*
of what you speak? Frankly, you're posting rubbish. Your 'God' is as 'real'
as the aforementioned alien, 'Trimus from the planet Korg.' Go ahead and
prove *this* atheist wrong.
would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey
<snip>
It would depend on the nature of the god in question. I assume you mean
the
Christian god, YHWH.
Technically, the Jews referred to their 'God' as YHWH. Christians are more
apt to use the word, 'Lord', or 'Jehovah'. But who really cares, eh'?
Even if YHWH had only half a brain,
Well he doesn't even have a 'quarter' of a brain because he doesn't exist --
except in your imagination. And trying to 'will' him into existence just
doesn't work. People like you have tried to do that for thousands of years.
He *still* exists only in certain people's imagination. And 'He' takes so
many unprovable forms that it isn't even funny.
he'd be more than
willing to obey something wiser and more powerful than him because he'd
know
that wiser and more powerful is better and - being all-merciful and
whatnot -
YHWH would definitely prefer "better". That something wiser and more
powerful
than YHWH could not exist in this pantheon would not be YHWH's fault -
Of course not. YHWH doesn't exist.
he
-would- be obedient had he the chance to do so, but such would never
happen.
So there you have it, the answer is, "No, something made in YHWH's image
would
-not- be loathe to obey." Unless you wish to assign the "loathe to obey"
attribute to YHWH for no good reason, of course.
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
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The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pretty sad.
Greywolf
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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14 Jun 2006 05:27:31 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:23:45 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote:
"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:i82v82l4159gc91v86siua035uvnitmo1d@4ax.com...
On 13 Jun 2006 20:37:37 -0700, wrote:
<snip>
And since obedience is not something that God does,
And just how in the Hell would you know that? Based on what evidence? Go
ahead. Tell everyone who is reading your post how *you*, personally, *know*
of what you speak? Frankly, you're posting rubbish. Your 'God' is as 'real'
as the aforementioned alien, 'Trimus from the planet Korg.' Go ahead and
prove *this* atheist wrong.
would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey
<snip>
It would depend on the nature of the god in question. I assume you mean
the
Christian god, YHWH.
Technically, the Jews referred to their 'God' as YHWH. Christians are more
apt to use the word, 'Lord', or 'Jehovah'. But who really cares, eh'?
Even if YHWH had only half a brain,
Well he doesn't even have a 'quarter' of a brain because he doesn't exist --
except in your imagination.
Just in case you didn't realize it, this part of your response appears to be in
reply to my part of the quoted post, and I am an atheist. I don't know if you
were genuinely confused about me or if you just didn't notice who you were
replying to, but I thought I'd clarify that. I do sometimes confuse people
because I can switch to a theistic alter ego at will and speak from a theistic
perspective, but that theistic alter ego really isn't the one "driving" things
around this mind of mine. So if -that's- what happened - that you saw something
from me posting as that theistic alter ego - then please accept my apologies for
the confusion. I do generally try to insert a "disclaimer" of sorts into those
kinds of posts to let people know it's not "the real me", but sometimes that may
be missed. :-)
....although, it does lead me to wonder. When I die, what do Christians think
will happen to all of my personalities? Will some go to Heaven and others go to
Hell? Or might I somehow be able to slip into Heaven on a "Mentally ill and
therefore not accountable for his own actions" visa as some seem to believe?
All speculation for naught, of course, but I -do- like decent fiction. :-)
And trying to 'will' him into existence just
doesn't work. People like you have tried to do that for thousands of years.
Nyerp, not people like me. People like I probably would have been had I not
been born into such an inquisitive and knowledgable age, perhaps, but not people
like I actually turned out to -be-. :-)
<snip>
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
************************************************
The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pretty sad.
Might I inquire as to what in particular you are referring?
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
************************************************
The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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14 Jun 2006 06:43:34 PM |
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"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 02:23:45 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Uncle Clover" <UncleClover@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:i82v82l4159gc91v86siua035uvnitmo1d@4ax.com...
On 13 Jun 2006 20:37:37 -0700, wrote:
<snip>
And since obedience is not something that God does,
And just how in the Hell would you know that? Based on what evidence? Go
ahead. Tell everyone who is reading your post how *you*, personally,
*know*
of what you speak? Frankly, you're posting rubbish. Your 'God' is as
'real'
as the aforementioned alien, 'Trimus from the planet Korg.' Go ahead and
prove *this* atheist wrong.
would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey
<snip>
It would depend on the nature of the god in question. I assume you mean
the
Christian god, YHWH.
Technically, the Jews referred to their 'God' as YHWH. Christians are more
apt to use the word, 'Lord', or 'Jehovah'. But who really cares, eh'?
Even if YHWH had only half a brain,
Well he doesn't even have a 'quarter' of a brain because he doesn't
exist --
except in your imagination.
Just in case you didn't realize it, this part of your response appears to
be in
reply to my part of the quoted post, and I am an atheist. I don't know if
you
were genuinely confused about me or if you just didn't notice who you were
replying to, but I thought I'd clarify that. I do sometimes confuse
people
because I can switch to a theistic alter ego at will and speak from a
theistic
perspective, but that theistic alter ego really isn't the one "driving"
things
around this mind of mine. So if -that's- what happened - that you saw
something
from me posting as that theistic alter ego - then please accept my
apologies for
the confusion. I do generally try to insert a "disclaimer" of sorts into
those
kinds of posts to let people know it's not "the real me", but sometimes
that may
be missed. :-)
Dang, if *I* don't do the same dang thing myself! S H I ... you know the
other letter ... ! Mea Culpa. I went off shootin' from the hip again.
Disregard anything I wrote that should not have been addressed to *you*.
Again, sorry.
Greywolf
...although, it does lead me to wonder. When I die, what do Christians
think
will happen to all of my personalities? Will some go to Heaven and others
go to
Hell? Or might I somehow be able to slip into Heaven on a "Mentally ill
and
therefore not accountable for his own actions" visa as some seem to
believe?
All speculation for naught, of course, but I -do- like decent fiction.
:-)
And trying to 'will' him into existence just
doesn't work. People like you have tried to do that for thousands of
years.
Nyerp, not people like me. People like I probably would have been had I
not
been born into such an inquisitive and knowledgable age, perhaps, but not
people
like I actually turned out to -be-. :-)
<snip>
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
************************************************
The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pretty sad.
Might I inquire as to what in particular you are referring?
--
L8r,
Uncle Clover
************************************************
The true mark of a civilized society is when its
citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.
************************************************
"A disappearance is when someone has vanished.
A tragedy is when they were photogenic."
- a.t-c's Bo Raxo, paraphrased.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If you look at the whole life of the planet,
man has only been around for a few blinks of an
eye. So if the infection wipes us all out,
that _is_ a return to normality..."
- Sergeant Farrell, "28 Days Later"
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: God and man |
14 Jun 2006 10:45:56 PM |
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On 13 Jun 2006 20:37:37 -0700, wrote:
Mysticism works..
until someone stops on the wave-function
Openness works..
until there is something that jinxes the works
God was talking about His people being hard-headed. Would not they have
to be, in order to be God's people?
And if man is made in God's image, and God is the king of the universe,
then would not man's God-given nature be likewise to want to be like
God?
And since obedience is not something that God does, would not something
made in God's image be loathe to obey - would not obedience simply not
be part of man's nature, as being made in God's image - the same God
who takes orders from nobody and instead creates and dispenses as He
chooses to?
Is this then not a solution to human condition?
No, not any of the stupid psychoanalytic stuff; but rather simply this:
That God creates, not obeys, and transcends His own laws to make
miracles;
That something made in God's image would have the same nature;
And to ask someone to obey, when He is made in God's image, is to go
against the nature that God gave him - His own nature?
So is then the fault for the fall with the Serpent's deceptiveness and
Eve's gullibility?
Or was this built into the mechanism, created by God?
And if God loved Adam, but gave Adam His own nature, then would it not
stand to reason that Adam would want to go his way, no matter how much
God loved him, as being made in God's image that's simply what he was
created to do?
So the corruption we see from the Fall - is it not an inevitability,
given what God made man to be?
Would not obedience be against the nature of any creature made in God's
image, since God obeys nobody?
And would not self-will be the nature of all such creatures, with this
flaw being a result not of the Fall and not of Satan, but as direct
consequence of God's craftsmanship?
Ilya Shambat.
God who?
Sunyata
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13 Jun 2006 11:16:49 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet (ibshambat2004@hotmail.com)
made the light shine upon us with this:
Which god?
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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