"lw8112" <torgnywickman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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We all know about Noah and the flood. What I cannot understand is why
it was necessary. The beginning of the problem was with the sons of God
and they were supposedly angels. God should surely have the ability to
control his own angels or have they also free will? If they have it why
should we trust in something an angel says more than if they were
human. After all in such a case what hinders them from to lie.

Noah and the Ark

The Bible is claimed to be the inerrant word of God

The story of Noah and the flood is only one of many ridiculous biblical
tales with no authentication or plausibility of any kind. It is an
impossible story.

1. The largest boat ever built to this day could not even come CLOSE to
housing Noah, his sons, wives and two of every type of animal on earth. And
this was a boat built of wood many thousands of years ago. There are 1.7
million KNOWN species of animals on this planet. This story is patently
impossible, using only materials and tools available to Noah, to build an
arch large enough to hold all these creatures, together with suitable
environments for each of them to live in, keeping them all separated so they
don't kill and eat each other. And then provide room and an environment for
many hundreds of millions of known species of insects, plants, molds etc. on
this planet?
2. In order to capture two (or seven) of each animal in the world, Noah
would have to travel the whole world and capture them. This is an
impossibility even with modern means of travel and transport much less
ancient ravel on foot and by donkey!

3. Where did they house all of the new born during this ten month
escapade?

4. In addition, the ship would have to carry a TEN MONTHS supply of food
and fresh water for the people and thousands of animals for them to survive.
What would the carnivores have eaten? Whatever prey they ate would have gone
extinct. How did they dispose of the thousands of tons of feces? It must
have been one stinking ship!

5. Now according to the Bible the earth was flooded for ten months. This
would kill off all the vegetation. What did the animals eat for an
additional year or more after the flood subsided?

6. Noah sends a dove out to see if there was any dry land. But the dove
returns without finding any. Then, just seven days later, the dove goes out
again and returns with an olive leaf. But how could an olive tree survive
the flood? And if any seeds happened to survive, they certainly wouldn't
germinate and grow leaves within a seven day period. 8:8-11.

7. And according to this myth, Noah was also over 600 years old!

This is a grossly implausible tale that ranks as a greater tale than Santa
Claus, The Wizard of Oz, The Easter Bunny and The Tooth Fairy!

Genesis 6:6

6 The LORD was grieved that he had made man on the earth, and his heart was
filled with pain.

7 So the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I have created, from the face
of the earth: men and animals, and creatures that move along the ground, and
birds of the air-for I am grieved that I have made them."

9 Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he
walked with God.

Genesis 7

1- The LORD then said to Noah, "Go into the ark, you and your whole family,
because I have found you righteous in this generation. 2 -Take with you
seven [a] of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of
every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 - and also seven of
every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive
throughout the earth. 4 - Seven days from now I will send rain on the earth
for forty days and forty nights, and I will wipe from the face of the earth
every living creature I have made."

6 - Noah was six hundred years old when the floodwaters came on the earth.
7 - And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark
to escape the waters of the flood. 8 - Pairs of clean and unclean animals,
of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 - male and
female, came to Noah and entered the ark, as God had commanded Noah. 10 -
And after the seven days the floodwaters came on the earth.



This is patently ridiculous and impossible. How could they capture and load
over three million animals in a period of seven days???



11 - In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the
second month-on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and
the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 - And rain fell on the earth
forty days and forty nights.

13 - On that very day Noah and his sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth, together
with his wife and the wives of his three sons, entered the ark. 14 - They
had with them every wild animal according to its kind, all livestock
according to their kinds, every creature that moves along the ground
according to its kind and every bird according to its kind, everything with
wings. 15 - Pairs of all creatures that have the breath of life in them came
to Noah and entered the ark. 16 -The animals going in were male and female
of every living thing, as God had commanded Noah. Then the LORD shut him in.

17 - For forty days the flood kept coming on the earth, and as the waters
increased they lifted the ark high above the earth. 18 -The waters rose and
increased greatly on the earth, and the ark floated on the surface of the
water. 19 - They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under
the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the
mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. [, 21 - Every living thing
that moved on the earth perished-birds, livestock, wild animals, all the
creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. 22 - Everything on dry
land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 -Every living
thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the
creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped
from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.

24 - The waters flooded the earth for a hundred and fifty days.

This of course would have also killed all the vegetation on Earth!



Genesis 7:6 (New International Version)

6 Noah was "six hundred" years old when the floodwaters came on the earth.

7 -And Noah and his sons and his wife and his sons' wives entered the ark to
escape the waters of the flood

Genesis 8

1 - But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that
were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the waters
receded.

3 - The water receded steadily from the earth. At the end of the hundred and
fifty days the water had gone down,

4 - and on the seventeenth day of the seventh month the ark came to rest on
the mountains of Ararat.

5 -The waters continued to recede until the tenth month, and on the first
day of the tenth month the tops of the mountains became visible



And what did they eat until all the vegetation recovered from the flood???

Genesis 9 God's Covenant with Noah

1 -Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and
increase in number and fill the earth.

2 -The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and
all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground,
and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands.

3 Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you
the green plants, I now give you everything.

4 - "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.

5 - And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand
an accounting from every animal. And from each man, too, I will demand an
accounting for the life of his fellow man.



Before man learned how to create a fire, he had no choice but to eat raw
meat!

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:22:35 -0700, lw8112 wrote:

We all know about Noah and the flood. What I cannot understand is why
it was necessary.

One part of the problem is that oral traditions (which
what we call "the Old Testament" grew out of) had
cultural contexts and the stories make sense *in
context but not *out.