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Religions > Atheism |
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"sol" |
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10 Apr 2004 07:11:46 AM |
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God-given rights |
I am very troubled by the insistence of some posters to this group that
human rights come from God. To those who claim that human rights are
God-given, can you please answer the following questions:
1. Where in the Bible are human rights explicitly mentioned and what rights
are they?
2. Is there a religious document, perhaps the equivalent of 10 Commandments,
that lists human rights ( a precursor of the Bill of Rights perhaps)?
3. What Church or religion has human rights among its main doctrine? (It
would be good if you could provide a bibliography here)
4. What Church or religion stood up for human rights and when? I don't want
examples of individual members defending human rights, but of the entire
Church or religion taking a documented stand. (Please note that unless these
examples are more then 50 years old, I might be forced to conclude that when
it comes to the Rights of Man, God is only a recent convert.....)
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: God-given rights |
11 Apr 2004 01:42:35 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:11:46 GMT the ET form known as
sol<sol@inorbit.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
I am very troubled by the insistence of some posters to this group that
human rights come from God. To those who claim that human rights are
God-given, can you please answer the following questions:
<snipped>
The Torah books describe a society where human rights had no place.
Ancient Israel resembles a Taliban type of nation.
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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| Title: Re: God-given rights |
11 Apr 2004 03:41:33 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1ae370be112b1861989d7b@news.optusnet.com.au>...
The Torah books describe a society where human rights had no place.
Ancient Israel resembles a Taliban type of nation.
You know, it might be an interesting experiment to gather together
some volunteers and set them up to live in a mock society, say for a
year, where the rules of the society did not deviate, in any way, from
Biblical law. Something like a 1900 House for the Biblical set. [1]
Unfortunately, I suspect that the ethical barriers to such a project
would be insurmountable.
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Andrew Lias
andrewlias.blogspot.com
[1] 1900 House was a BBC project where a typical family had to live in
a house renovated to the standards of the year 1900, complete with
clothing and chores. It seemed to have been a rather unpleasant
experience for the family.
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: God-given rights |
11 Apr 2004 06:37:27 PM |
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On 11 Apr 2004 13:41:33 -0700 the ET form known as Andrew
Lias<anrwlias@hotmail.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1ae370be112b1861989d7b@news.optusnet.com.au>...
The Torah books describe a society where human rights had no place.
Ancient Israel resembles a Taliban type of nation.
You know, it might be an interesting experiment to gather together
some volunteers and set them up to live in a mock society, say for a
year, where the rules of the society did not deviate, in any way, from
Biblical law. Something like a 1900 House for the Biblical set. [1]
Could be called Exodus Survivor.
Unfortunately, I suspect that the ethical barriers to such a project
would be insurmountable.
Probably. But it could be a good movie sending up reality TV like
Series 7.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet -
Evil Atheist Conspiracy
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
Fingerprint for PGP Keys at key server or go to
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
RSA - 71 BA 7C 45 B5 4A 5F EA 72 DB EC 7F 7F A8 70 99
DSS - 9217 21A9 9C3F EB0B E302 AD0E 69C5 0F06 402E 0943
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: God-given rights |
11 Apr 2004 09:20:31 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 12:11:46 GMT, "sol" <sol@inorbit.com>, Message ID:
<6wRdc.3171$ED.693@news-server.bigpond.net.au> wrote in alt.atheism;
I am very troubled by the insistence of some posters to this group that
human rights come from God. To those who claim that human rights are
God-given, can you please answer the following questions:
The only 'right' the Bible indicates is the right to unquestioningly
obey and you might live through the day.
(snip)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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