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08 Sep 2005 02:53:39 PM |
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God Has Given You a Choice |
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or stay
out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Budikka
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| User: "TJT2" |
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09 Sep 2005 12:15:22 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve. All
other humans are DEGENERATED descentants. And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple) and the sin come
in. You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
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--TJT--
Tästä pisteet TJT-nimimerkille! Muistakaa häntä rukouksin. Tarpoo
yksinään paksussa hangessa ja vetisessä suossa, mättähältä mättähälle.
Harva kaveri arvostelee minua liian passiiviseksi keskustelijaksi, mutta
Timolla on kyllä katetta kehotuksilleen.
- P. Ojala
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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09 Sep 2005 02:43:06 PM |
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "TJT2" |
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12 Sep 2005 05:36:44 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
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The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
(snip)
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
According to the facts, that fruit was _not_ an apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
Budikka666 talket about skin cancer, it is DNA-related disease. DNA
contorls when a cell divides and when it dies, etc. So I meant that Adam
and Eve has error-free DNA. DNA does not conrolled their behavior,
humans are not robots, we have free will.
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--TJT--
Is evolution so weak that it has to be legislated in order to protect
it? Oh YES.
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| User: "BDK" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
12 Sep 2005 05:21:28 PM |
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In article <dg37na$2vj$2@domitilla.aioe.org>,
creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid says...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3odleuF5fi5jU1@individual.net
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
(snip)
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
According to the facts, that fruit was _not_ an apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
Budikka666 talket about skin cancer, it is DNA-related disease. DNA
contorls when a cell divides and when it dies, etc. So I meant that Adam
and Eve has error-free DNA. DNA does not conrolled their behavior,
humans are not robots, we have free will.
That an adult, and I'm assuming you are an adult, could believe such
"horsehockey", like you do, is really scary.
BDK
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
12 Sep 2005 05:27:07 PM |
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BDK wrote:
In article <dg37na$2vj$2@domitilla.aioe.org>,
creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid says...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3odleuF5fi5jU1@individual.net
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfs371$pqt$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
(snip)
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
According to the facts, that fruit was _not_ an apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
Budikka666 talket about skin cancer, it is DNA-related disease. DNA
contorls when a cell divides and when it dies, etc. So I meant that Adam
and Eve has error-free DNA. DNA does not conrolled their behavior,
humans are not robots, we have free will.
That an adult, and I'm assuming you are an adult, could believe such
"horsehockey", like you do, is really scary.
BDK
TJT2 is a Real McCoy cretinoid. Insane as the the rest of the lot, maybe
even more.
Seppo P.
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| User: "BDK" |
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13 Sep 2005 05:38:16 AM |
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In article <3ols38F6jv0gU1@individual.net>,
says...
BDK wrote:
In article <dg37na$2vj$2@domitilla.aioe.org>,
creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid says...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3odleuF5fi5jU1@individual.net
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfs371$pqt$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
(snip)
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
According to the facts, that fruit was _not_ an apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
Budikka666 talket about skin cancer, it is DNA-related disease. DNA
contorls when a cell divides and when it dies, etc. So I meant that Adam
and Eve has error-free DNA. DNA does not conrolled their behavior,
humans are not robots, we have free will.
That an adult, and I'm assuming you are an adult, could believe such
"horsehockey", like you do, is really scary.
BDK
TJT2 is a Real McCoy cretinoid. Insane as the the rest of the lot, maybe
even more.
Seppo P.
He seems about as far gone than the loon I work with, who, if I had the
power to choose, wouldn't have custody of his dog, let alone his 2 kids.
He and his wife "asked god" before finally deciding to treat their son
for cancer. When their prayers for the kid to be healed didn't work,
they finally decided (about a month went by) to go ahead and let the
docs treat him, and now he's doing ok.
He seems sane enough, until he "goes off". When Katrina hit, he agreed
it was at least partly gawd punishing all the sinners in NO.
We called him a loon to his face. The truth hurts..
BDK
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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09 Sep 2005 05:39:47 PM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
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Oh, they'll have a rationalization for that - never mind if the women even
existed how the heck would she know enough not to be "tricked and beguiled"
by a talking animal? She had no prior experience with anyone or anything.
And then this smoke and sulfur belching god PUNISHES and kills all humanity
for all time because of THIS? A tricked and beguiled woman? What normal,
rational parent kills it's children for being TRICKED and BEGUILED, or
simply disobedient?
Had she been "created" error-free and perfect she would not have been
beguiled and tricked.
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CR..
Numbers 31:17-18 God commands Moses to kill all the Medianite people
including children and women. To top it off he commands that the virgins be
saved for later raping (concubinage & forced marriage) by Moses' soldiers.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.jwfiles.com/index.htm
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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09 Sep 2005 05:54:20 PM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3odleuF5fi5jU1@individual.net...
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
===============================
Oh, they'll have a rationalization for that - never mind if the women
even existed how the heck would she know enough not to be "tricked and
beguiled" by a talking animal? She had no prior experience with
anyone or anything.
Well, even I have a ***** rationalization for this:
Eve was made from Adam. Up until the act of "seperation" Eve had all
the knowledge and memories that Adam had.
And then this smoke and sulfur belching god PUNISHES
and kills all humanity for all time because of THIS?
"The ancient gods were petty and cruel, and they plagued mankind with
suffering..." --Opening for Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
A tricked and
beguiled woman? What normal, rational parent kills it's children for
being TRICKED and BEGUILED, or simply disobedient?
Had she been "created" error-free and perfect she would not have been
beguiled and tricked.
Indeed. Also, why did God create the serpent in the first place?
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
09 Sep 2005 08:23:59 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Cracklin' wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3odleuF5fi5jU1@individual.net...
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
===============================
Oh, they'll have a rationalization for that - never mind if the women
even existed how the heck would she know enough not to be "tricked and
beguiled" by a talking animal? She had no prior experience with anyone
or anything.
Well, even I have a ***** rationalization for this:
Eve was made from Adam. Up until the act of "seperation" Eve had all the
knowledge and memories that Adam had.
## And what memories and knowledge could that have been since he didn't have
any "past experiences" with other people to go by? ;-) All he had was a
garden and animals around.
And then this smoke and sulfur belching god PUNISHES and kills all
humanity for all time because of THIS?
"The ancient gods were petty and cruel, and they plagued mankind with
suffering..." --Opening for Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
## And old Jah was right up there with the rest of them. Why on earth did
man create such horrid, petty murderous gods?
A tricked and beguiled woman? What normal, rational parent kills it's
children for being TRICKED and BEGUILED, or simply disobedient?
Had she been "created" error-free and perfect she would not have been
beguiled and tricked.
Indeed. Also, why did God create the serpent in the first place?
## Oh, let me try to rationalize that one. The serpent was an Angel gone
bad and so became a SHAPE-SHIFTER..... ;-)
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CR...
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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09 Sep 2005 10:32:23 PM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:g%jUe.34$vQ3.5@trnddc08...
Cracklin' wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3odleuF5fi5jU1@individual.net...
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfs371$pqt$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
===============================
Oh, they'll have a rationalization for that - never mind if the women
even existed how the heck would she know enough not to be "tricked
and beguiled" by a talking animal? She had no prior experience
with anyone or anything.
Well, even I have a ***** rationalization for this:
Eve was made from Adam. Up until the act of "seperation" Eve had all
the knowledge and memories that Adam had.
## And what memories and knowledge could that have been since he didn't
have any "past experiences" with other people to go by? ;-) All he had
was a garden and animals around.
God saying, "Don't do that." Why? "Shut up! Cut his mic!"
And then this smoke and sulfur belching god PUNISHES and kills all
humanity for all time because of THIS?
"The ancient gods were petty and cruel, and they plagued mankind with
suffering..." --Opening for Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
## And old Jah was right up there with the rest of them. Why on earth
did man create such horrid, petty murderous gods?
To rationalize his own horrid, petty murdering.
"God told me to strike at Iraq and I struck them."
A tricked and beguiled woman? What normal, rational parent kills
it's children for being TRICKED and BEGUILED, or simply disobedient?
Had she been "created" error-free and perfect she would not have been
beguiled and tricked.
Indeed. Also, why did God create the serpent in the first place?
## Oh, let me try to rationalize that one. The serpent was an Angel
gone bad and so became a SHAPE-SHIFTER..... ;-)
And why did the Angel go bad? ;-)
Somewhere, along the way, something had to have happened to introduce
"bad" into the equation. And, this something would have to be created
by "God," as per the story.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
10 Sep 2005 05:53:23 AM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Cracklin' wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:g%jUe.34$vQ3.5@trnddc08...
Cracklin' wrote:
Eve was made from Adam. Up until the act of "seperation" Eve had all
the knowledge and memories that Adam had.
## And what memories and knowledge could that have been since he didn't
have any "past experiences" with other people to go by? ;-) All he had
was a garden and animals around.
God saying, "Don't do that." Why? "Shut up! Cut his mic!"
$$ Right! :-)
"The ancient gods were petty and cruel, and they plagued mankind with
suffering..." --Opening for Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
## And old Jah was right up there with the rest of them. Why on earth
did man create such horrid, petty murderous gods?
To rationalize his own horrid, petty murdering.
$$ That sounds about right! Plus they had their god as an excuse to murder,
pillage and kidnap virgins.
"God told me to strike at Iraq and I struck them."
$$ Someone has schizophrenia in Washington and was hearing voices....
## Oh, let me try to rationalize that one. The serpent was an Angel
gone bad and so became a SHAPE-SHIFTER..... ;-)
And why did the Angel go bad? ;-)
$$ All angels were men but all women were human - hence they had to "fall"
to get some "lovin's." God saw that as "fornicating" and there you have it!
Fallen angels = demons!
Somewhere, along the way, something had to have happened to introduce
"bad" into the equation. And, this something would have to be created by
"God," as per the story.
$$ One fundy told me *bad* came from the fruit Eve ate......
CR.......
"I contend that we are both atheists, I just believe in one less god
than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all other possible gods,
then you
will know why I dismiss yours." -= Stephen F. Roberts =-
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10 Sep 2005 09:38:35 PM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
$$ That sounds about right! Plus they had their god as an excuse to
murder, pillage and kidnap virgins.
Virgins are not all they are cracked up to be. A good God would support
kidnapping large breasted, multi-orgasmic nymphomaniacs.
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I am hung like Einstein;
and as smart as a horse!
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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10 Sep 2005 11:35:35 PM |
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"El Bleacho" <ElBleacho@Clorox.gov> wrote in message
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Cracklin' wrote:
$$ That sounds about right! Plus they had their god as an excuse to
murder, pillage and kidnap virgins.
Virgins are not all they are cracked up to be.
$$ They were in those days. Why? Because their prudish god said so.
A good God would support
kidnapping large breasted, multi-orgasmic nymphomaniacs.
$$ He would have, had he known what they were. ;-)
--
CR.....
The JWs keep saying it (Armageddon) is imminent, just a matter of time,
only a matter of weeks or months from the predicted date: 1874(+40),
1878(+40), 1910,
1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1922, 1925, 1940, 1945, 1975, 1999/2000...
LATEST DATE: 2034 Come get your predictions and palm read by the GB!
Just one WRONG date after another - they're truly inspired by *GASP* demons!
"If he is a false prophet (like the GB), his prophecy will fail to come to
pass."
(Watchtower, 5/15/30).
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11 Sep 2005 12:25:28 AM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
"El Bleacho" <ElBleacho@Clorox.gov> wrote in message
A good God would support
kidnapping large breasted, multi-orgasmic nymphomaniacs.
$$ He would have, had he known what they were. ;-)
Any God that does not make 'em all large breasted and stuck in nympho mode
deserves to be fired. Tarred, feathers, and then fired. Man, this
"god of the gaps" has no clue what we end users want!
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I am hung like Einstein;
and as smart as a horse!
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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09 Sep 2005 09:12:44 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfs371$pqt$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Who, according to the myth, made an error when they ate the apple.
Whoopsie!
Not exactly "error-free", eh?
Robin, that was too much! (takes a second or two out to remove soda
from nose).
B.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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09 Sep 2005 05:33:54 PM |
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:dfs371$pqt$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
## Where does the bible state they were created "error free?" Also where
does it claim eating some fruit corrupted their genetic material?
All
other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
## Where does the bible make THAT claim?
And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple)
## Why wouldn't she believe him when she had no prior experience, no
friends, no history, no education.... nothing!
and the sin come
in.
## You seem to forget he BEGUILED and TRICKED her, a woman with no more
intelligence than a child would have - and no past experience to guide her.
Also, what one society considers "sin" another doesn't.
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
## Where in the bible are these claims made - and by who?
--
CR........
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
## Where does the bible state they were created "error free?" Also
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it
was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Note _very_ good. Logic says that if someting has errors it is not very
good.
where does it claim eating some fruit corrupted their genetic
material?
Logic says that too.
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
## Where does the bible make THAT claim?
Living ages shortened, for example Lemek lived "only" 777 y, Reu lived
"only" 239 y. etc.
And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple)
## Why wouldn't she believe him when she had no prior experience, no
friends, no history, no education.... nothing!
She know how to talk, etc, so obviously she was created educated. Note
that Adam and Eve were adults, so they have skills of adults.
and the sin come
in.
## You seem to forget he BEGUILED and TRICKED her, a woman with no
more intelligence than a child would have - and no past experience to
What evidence you have that she had no more intelligence than a child?
guide her. Also, what one society considers "sin" another doesn't.
Only the God can decide what is a sin and what is not.
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
## Where in the bible are these claims made - and by who?
We have a right to make logical conclusions. Btw, why you are using
those funny "##" marks?
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--TJT--
Jos ateistien raamattukritiikki osoittaa heidän tasonsa, niin he
murentavat vain ateismin eikä minkään muun luotettavuutta.
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote in message
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
## Where does the bible state they were created "error free?" Also
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it
was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
## But where does the bible state they were created "error free?" And why
would he see the horrible virus and parasitic diseases he created as "very
good.?"
Note _very_ good. Logic says that if someting has errors it is not very
good.
## Logic says there is no mention of genetically error free humans in the
bible. Also what's so good about all the viral, bacterial and parasitical
human diseases that have plagued mankind since day one?
where does it claim eating some fruit corrupted their genetic
material?
Logic says that too.
## Where does LOGIC make that claim?
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
## Where does the bible make THAT claim?
Living ages shortened, for example Lemek lived "only" 777 y, Reu lived
"only" 239 y. etc.
## Absurd! Because of something called "telemers" humans cannot live beyond
120 years. It has nothing to do with degenerating.
And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple)
## Why wouldn't she believe him when she had no prior experience, no
friends, no history, no education.... nothing!
She know how to talk, etc, so obviously she was created educated. Note
that Adam and Eve were adults, so they have skills of adults.
## Alone with only Adam she "created" education? That makes no sense at
all. How can she create education when she could not have known anything
but pick fruit and veggies and eat them? Skills? We get our skills from
books, schools, TV, newspapers, other people etc. She would have had the
mentality of a small child.
and the sin come
in.
## You seem to forget he BEGUILED and TRICKED her, a woman with no
more intelligence than a child would have - and no past experience to
What evidence you have that she had no more intelligence than a child?
## Where would she get an education from? The flowers and grass? The
trees?
guide her. Also, what one society considers "sin" another doesn't.
Only the God can decide what is a sin and what is not.
## And there are THOUSANDS of gods out there, each with his/her/it's own
spiel, rewards, punishments etc.
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
## Where in the bible are these claims made - and by who?
We have a right to make logical conclusions.
## There is nothing logical about that conclusion.
Btw, why you are using
those funny "##" marks?
## So my text is not confused with someone else's.
--
CR......
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote in message
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
## Where does the bible state they were created "error free?" Also
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold,
it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
## But where does the bible state they were created "error free?"
As I tried to explain, "error-free" is logical conclusion, not direct
quote.
And why would he see the horrible virus and parasitic diseases he
created as "very good.?"
Did God Make Pathogenic Viruses?
http://www.trueorigin.org/virus.asp
More links
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/death_suffering.asp
Note _very_ good. Logic says that if someting has errors it is not
very good.
## Logic says there is no mention of genetically error free humans
in the bible. Also what's so good about all the viral, bacterial and
parasitical human diseases that have plagued mankind since day one?
You are right, there is no expression "genetically error free" in the
Bible. But there is an expression "very good".
And you question is answered in pages of TrueOrigin and AiG. Do your
homeworks, please.
where does it claim eating some fruit corrupted their genetic
material?
Logic says that too.
## Where does LOGIC make that claim?
Here, there and everywhere...
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
## Where does the
bible make THAT claim?
Living ages shortened, for example Lemek lived "only" 777 y, Reu
lived "only" 239 y. etc.
## Absurd! Because of something called "telemers" humans cannot live
beyond 120 years. It has nothing to do with degenerating.
Wrong. Scientist picked up specific worms and after some mutations those
worms lived four times longer than normal worms. In humans that would
mean 480 years. And you just need to douple that with mutation, and
result is 960 years. And if process goes this direction, it's easy to
imagine that also goes backwards. I mean, that if threre is worms or
humans or whatever, mutations can decrease living ages. In fact, we
don't need to imagine, there _is_ such desease. Some people are aging
faster than normal, they look small adults in age of 10 (or someting
like that) and they die about age 20. Lets assume that all normal people
die. What would happen? The age of 20 is now maximum known age, and they
will say "Absurd! Because of something called "telemers" humans cannot
live beyond 20 years" if someone tries to tell, than long time ago in
2000s humans lived even 120 years.
She know how to talk, etc, so obviously she was created educated.
Note that Adam and Eve were adults, so they have skills of adults.
## Alone with only Adam she "created" education? That makes no
sense at all.
English is foreing language to me. Did I make some language error, or
why it makes no sense at all?
How can she create education when she could not have
known anything but pick fruit and veggies and eat them? Skills? We
get our skills from books, schools, TV, newspapers, other people etc.
She would have had the mentality of a small child.
Is English your 1st language?
What evidence you have that she had no more intelligence than a
child?
## Where would she get an education from? The flowers and grass? The
trees?
From the God.
guide her. Also, what one society considers "sin" another doesn't.
Only the God can decide what is a sin and what is not.
## And there are THOUSANDS of gods out there, each with his/her/it's
own spiel, rewards, punishments etc.
Yes, many _g_ods but only one _G_od.
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking
modern degenerated humans.
## Where in the bible are these claims made - and by who?
We have a right to make logical conclusions.
## There is nothing logical about that conclusion.
So you think that it is logical to critisize original something looking
modern degenerated something?
Btw, why you are using
those funny "##" marks?
## So my text is not confused with someone else's.
All good newsreaders add mark ">" to quote (and even Google will add
them if writer bother to set correct option. Or something like that, I
don't use Google but I have seen many discussions about that quotemarks
problem) so your text should not confused. And if someone don't bother
to use good newsreader, is he (or she) really worth of replying?
--
--TJT--
Me nousemme syvältä, kaduilta ja kujilta.
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18 Sep 2005 01:39:20 AM |
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote in message
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
## Where does the bible state they were created "error free?" Also
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold,
it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
## But where does the bible state they were created "error free?"
As I tried to explain, "error-free" is logical conclusion, not direct
quote.
$$ What's LOGICAL about it? It may be logical to you but not logical to
someone else. Logic tells us a human who suddenly appears on the earth
error-free or not, knows NOTHING and would easily have a conversation with
talking animals. She/he would be easily TRICKED and BEGUILED. Logic tells
us we don't kill our children because they were tricked and beguiled as this
horrible Jehovah did - punishing mankind forever because someone was
"tricked and beguiled." Have you no sense at all?
And why would he see the horrible virus and parasitic diseases he
created as "very good.?"
Did God Make Pathogenic Viruses?
$$ Yes, since the bible claims he created all things. Man cannot "create"
diseases.
http://www.trueorigin.org/virus.asp
More links
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/death_suffering.asp
Note _very_ good. Logic says that if someting has errors it is not
very good.
## Logic says there is no mention of genetically error free humans
in the bible. Also what's so good about all the viral, bacterial and
parasitical human diseases that have plagued mankind since day one?
You are right, there is no expression "genetically error free" in the
Bible. But there is an expression "very good".
And you question is answered in pages of TrueOrigin and AiG. Do your
homeworks, please.
## No, you must do your homework so you can understand human disease.
where does it claim eating some fruit corrupted their genetic
material?
Logic says that too.
## Where does LOGIC make that claim?
Here, there and everywhere...
## Again - where is the logic?
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
## Where does the
bible make THAT claim?
Living ages shortened, for example Lemek lived "only" 777 y, Reu
lived "only" 239 y. etc.
## Absurd! Because of something called "telemers" humans cannot live
beyond 120 years. It has nothing to do with degenerating.
Wrong. Scientist picked up specific worms and after some mutations those
worms lived four times longer than normal worms.
$$ The bible does not mention those who lived 900 years were some kind of
mutation.
In humans that would
mean 480 years. And you just need to douple that with mutation, and
result is 960 years. And if process goes this direction, it's easy to
imagine that also goes backwards. I mean, that if threre is worms or
humans or whatever, mutations can decrease living ages.
$$ Please stop comparing humans to worms. It's absurd and an excuse for an
outrageous biblical statement.
In fact, we
don't need to imagine, there _is_ such desease. Some people are aging
faster than normal, they look small adults in age of 10 (or someting
like that) and they die about age 20.
$$ Those are well known genetic mistakes. Please take a course in biology,
bacteriology, virology, parasitology and perhaps one in human evolution.
--
CR..........
Well, then, have I become YOUR enemy because I tell YOU the truth?
Galatians 4:16 NWT
http://quotes.watchtower.ca/
http://www.truthandgrace.com/Watchtower.htm
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18 Sep 2005 10:28:02 AM |
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TJT2 wrote:
"Cracklin'" <c@c.c> wrote in message
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"TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote in message
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Note that God create d only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
## Where does the bible state they were created "error free?" Also
Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold,
it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day
## But where does the bible state they were created "error free?"
As I tried to explain, "error-free" is logical conclusion, not direct
quote.
But it isn't a logical conclusion. Obviously A & E were not
"error-free" or they would not have done what "god"
obviously considered more than a little error.
And why would he see the horrible virus and parasitic diseases he
created as "very good.?"
Did God Make Pathogenic Viruses?
So it was the devil? Who made the devil?
http://www.trueorigin.org/virus.asp
More links
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/death_suffering.asp
Note _very_ good. Logic says that if someting has errors it is not
very good.
## Logic says there is no mention of genetically error free humans
in the bible. Also what's so good about all the viral, bacterial and
parasitical human diseases that have plagued mankind since day one?
You are right, there is no expression "genetically error free" in the
Bible. But there is an expression "very good".
And you question is answered in pages of TrueOrigin and AiG. Do your
homeworks, please.
It is not anyone's homework to look up answers to questions
put to you. But the answers are a joke:
"God originally created a perfect world, described by God as 'very
good'
(Genesis 1:31). People and animals ate plants, not other animals
(Genesis
1:29-30).
So plants aren't alive then?
There was no violence or pain in this 'very good' world.
But there WAS death.
"Death and suffering is the penalty for sin. When Adam rebelled
against God, in effect he was saying that he wanted life
without God. "
So obviously Adam wasn't error free.
"He wanted to decide truth for himself, independent of God."
Oh gosh how awful.
"Now the Bible tells us that Adam was the head
of the human race, representing each one of us,
who are his descendants. Paul says in Romans
5:12-19 that we sin 'in Adam,' after the likeness
of Adam. In other words, we have the same
problem Adam had. When Adam rebelled against
God, all human beings, represented by Adam,
effectively said that they wanted life without God.
So we had no choice in the matter but we are just
as guilty as Adam? So much for "free will."
"God had to judge Adam's sin with death. He had already
warned Adam that if he sinned, he would 'surely die.'"
How was Adam supposed to know what sinning meant
without the knowledge of good and evil?
"After Adam's Fall, he and all his descendants forfeited
the right to live."
Because?
"After all, God is the author of life. Death
is the natural penalty of choosing life without God, the
giver of life. Also, because the Lord is holy and just,
there had to be a penalty for rebellion."
How "just" is it to punish people for what someone else did?
where does it claim eating some fruit corrupted their genetic
material?
Logic says that too.
## Where does LOGIC make that claim?
Here, there and everywhere...
Very convincing. You seem to have an
issue with honesty.
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
## Where does the
bible make THAT claim?
Living ages shortened, for example Lemek lived "only" 777 y, Reu
lived "only" 239 y. etc.
## Absurd! Because of something called "telemers" humans cannot live
beyond 120 years. It has nothing to do with degenerating.
Wrong. Scientist picked up specific worm s and after some mutations those
worms lived four times longer than normal worms.
Got a citation for this?
In humans that would
mean 480 years.
Of course, what happens with worms must happen with
humans. You must be a biology major.
And you just need to douple that with mutation, and
result is 960 years.
Wow, it's so simple! Did you figure that out all by yourself?
And if process goes this direction, it's easy to
imagin e that also goes backwards.
LOL!
I mean, that if threre is worms or
humans or whatever, mutations can decrease living ages.
But you are saying that individual mutations affect the entire
human race. Anyway ther is no evidence at all that humans
ever lived longer than they do today.
In fact, we
don't need to imagine, there _is_ such desease. Some people are aging
faster than normal, they look small adults in ag e of 10 (or someting
like that)
Or somethnig like that.
and they die about age 20. Lets assume that all normal people
die. What would happen? The age of 20 is now maximum known age, and they
will say "Absurd!
No, your convoluted rationalizations are what is absurd. Of course
maybe
you're just a troll.
s
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:15:22 +0300, "TJT2" <creationism.is.truth@evolutionism.is.invalid> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve. All
other humans are DEGENERATED descentants. And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple) and the sin come
in.
You have that wrong. God decided to downgrade us using the farce of the tree as an excuse.
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
Right. We should criticise God. The original creation were God's victims just as we are.
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--TJT--
Barry
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Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
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09 Sep 2005 02:05:11 PM |
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TJT2 wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve. All
other humans are DEGENERATED descentants. And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple) and the sin come
in. You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
So, Adam and Eve never got skin cancer? Were Adam and Eve "black?" Did
Adam and Eve even exist? If so, do you have proof of any of this?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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TJT2 wrote:
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve. All
other humans are DEGENERATED descentants. And we degenerated because
Eve believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple) and the
sin come in. You should not criticize original perfect creation by
looking modern degenerated humans.
So, Adam and Eve never got skin cancer?
Never. Note that Adam lived 930 years.
Were Adam and Eve "black?"
Depends what you mean with "black". I have seen real black africans and
I have seen light brown afro-americans etc, and all are called "blacks".
Actual color of Adam and Eve was light or medium brown, because genetics
say that if there is whole spectrum from black to white in
F2-generation, the P-generation is middle.
Did Adam and Eve even exist? If so, do you have proof of any of this?
Logic and the Bible. Every person had mothrer and father, but humans
have not always been here, so there must be the first humans. And the
Bible says that their names were Adam and Eve. Evolutionists, of coz,
are claiming that before first humans we were some kind apes, and so on,
and all originated from the First Copier, and atheist are claiming that
First copier origated from non-living chemicals. But this long chain has
so many weak links that it requires real blind faith to believe in
evolution. I don't have such strong blind faith, so I must rely on
scientific evidence, logic and written document called the Bible. And
all 3 points to creation.
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--TJT--
This "General Theory of Evolution" (GTE) was defined by the evolutionist
Kerkut as "the theory that all the living forms in the world have arisen
from a single source which itself came from an inorganic form."
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09 Sep 2005 05:35:23 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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TJT2 wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve. All
other humans are DEGENERATED descentants. And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple) and the sin come
in. You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
So, Adam and Eve never got skin cancer? Were Adam and Eve "black?" Did
Adam and Eve even exist? If so, do you have proof of any of this?
===========================
STAND BACK..... as they'll waggle their bible in you face as PROOF! It's
all the proof they have.
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CR.......
Mat 7:22 Many (Jehovah's Witnesses) will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord,
have we not
prophesied in thy name (of the Watchtower?) and in thy name have cast out
devils? and in thy name done
many wonderful works (in getting new recruits and salespeople)?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from
me, ye that work iniquity (for the Watchtower Society).
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09 Sep 2005 09:11:02 PM |
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TJT2 wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or
stay out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa? Do
you know how common skin cancer is among white people in Scandinavia?
4 in 10 cases occur in non-whites worldwide. In Sweden there are 12
cases per 100,000, in China, 0.8 cases per 100,000 people.
Clearly dark skin protects you, but simultaneously hinders your ability
to make vit. D. Obviously a poor "design". Get it now?
And your point was?
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Where's your evidence for that? Please don't say it is the Bible, I'm
not wearing an outfit that would withstand shitting myself laughing.
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
Speak for YOURSELF. Obviously you are another DEGENERATE who thinks he
can make a scientific case by mere BLIND-FAITH assertion. You're
wrong.
Hey this RANDOM block caps THING is way COOL, isn't IT?
And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple)
It wasn't anything. It never happened. Although I'm sure you'll
provide evidence to support your case if I'm wrong, won't you now?
BTW, I heard Wal-Mart is having a sale on clues this week - why not
skip on over there and buy yourself a few - be sure to ask mommy first.
and the sin come in.
There is no sin. Sin is something invented by religious tyrants to
keep all you sheep in line baaa none.
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
Show me valid evidence that the human genome 6,000 years ago was
perfect and I'll shut up.
Budikka
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
13 Sep 2005 09:31:58 AM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126300262.263280.183890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
TJT2 wrote:
Do you know how common skin cancer is among black people in Africa?
Do you know how common skin cancer is among white people in
Scandinavia?
4 in 10 cases occur in non-whites worldwide. In Sweden there are 12
cases per 100,000, in China, 0.8 cases per 100,000 people.
So in Sweden 99988 and in China more than 99999 per 100000 don't have
skin cancer. So skin cancer is very rare disease.
Clearly dark skin protects you, but simultaneously hinders your
ability to make vit. D. Obviously a poor "design". Get it now?
Too much vitamin D increases risk of prostate cancer (only in men, of
coz, but there are some other risk for both sex) so obviously it good
think that our bodies are not generating too much vitamin D.
And your point was?
You said in your 1st post that there are only two options:
x x x clip you x x x
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or stay
out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
x x x clip endx x x
And because skin cancer is rare, you are actually claiming that almost
all people are suffering. Can you explain exactly how they are
suffering? Both my gradmas (mothrer's mother and father's mother) lived
about 90 y, and they didn't have broken bones or other problems related
to D-vit.
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Note that God created only two error-free humans, Adam and Eve.
Where's your evidence for that? Please don't say it is the Bible, I'm
not wearing an outfit that would withstand shitting myself laughing.
Diseases are increasing.
All other humans are DEGENERATED descentants.
Speak for YOURSELF. Obviously you are another DEGENERATE who thinks
he can make a scientific case by mere BLIND-FAITH assertion. You're
wrong.
DNA-related diseases are medical and statistical facts.
Hey this RANDOM block caps THING is way COOL, isn't IT?
I didn't use _random_ caps.
And we degenerated because Eve
believe Satan and ate the fruit (it was _not_ an apple)
It wasn't anything. It never happened. Although I'm sure you'll
provide evidence to support your case if I'm wrong, won't you now?
I already have, but it seems that you have blocked your eyes and ears.
BTW, I heard Wal-Mart is having a sale on clues this week - why not
skip on over there and buy yourself a few - be sure to ask mommy
first.
Wal-Mart?? Is it someting like Lidl?
and the sin come in.
There is no sin. Sin is something invented by religious tyrants to
keep all you sheep in line baaa none.
And your evidence for that is...?
You should not criticize original perfect creation by looking modern
degenerated humans.
Show me valid evidence that the human genome 6,000 years ago was
perfect and I'll shut up.
Genetic diseases are increasing, so obviously there is point where
number of them is zero when we go backwards in time. And there is strong
evidences that Earth is young, like C14 in oil and coal and other
materials which should contain 0 pmc.
Btw, back to skin cancer... you should remember ozone layer and
chemicals made by modern industry. There was no holes in ozone layer
6000 y ago, skin cancer is modern disease and caused by UV-radiation. It
is not God's fault that humans have weakened ozone layer. God has given
your a choice to protect or destroy it. If men destroy ozone layer and
get skin cancer, _they_ choose wrong option, not the God. Don't blame
the God when you make mistake.
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--TJT--
The problems are so serious that the majority of evolutionists today
tend to shun the whole subject of abiogenesis.
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| User: "Vince" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
08 Sep 2005 05:11:30 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or stay
out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
Budikka
----- Original Message -----
From: "Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net>
Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,alt.religion.jehovahs-witn
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 10:53 AM
Subject: God Has Given You a Choice
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or stay
out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
He created a solar system with several useless planets as well as the moon.
He created the earth, but failed to screen out earthquakes, floods,
hurricanes, droughts, zones with frigid temperature and oppressive heat,
swamps, deserts and mountain ranges. 75 % of its surface is covered by
water, and only 10 % is fresh water. The list could go on and on, but why
bother. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mickey Mouse could have
done a better job of designing.
Vince
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| User: "caprine_creatures" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
08 Sep 2005 05:29:07 PM |
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"Vince" <vcuccia122@comcast.net> wrote in message news:T8mdnXBlGJFY7b3eRVn-sg@comcast.com...
He created a solar system with several useless planets as well as the moon.
He created the earth, but failed to screen out earthquakes, floods,
hurricanes, droughts, zones with frigid temperature and oppressive heat,
swamps, deserts and mountain ranges. 75 % of its surface is covered by
water, and only 10 % is fresh water. The list could go on and on, but why
bother. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Mickey Mouse could have
done a better job of designing.
And people like this really do exist! It kinda balances things out, doesnt it?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: God Has Given You a Choice |
08 Sep 2005 05:51:00 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1126191219.026294.100230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The choice is you either go out in the sun and get skin cancer, or stay
out of the sun and suffer vitamin D deficiency.
$$ Wow! What a design.
What a loving god he is. What an intelligent designer. What a
farcical myth.
$$ You got that right! I wont even mention tubal pregnancies that kill
women.......
CR........
"Men never do evil so completely and
cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."
~ Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) ~
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