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"Kool Dude" |
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13 Jan 2004 05:11:38 PM |
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God-Hating Liberals Say "Jesus Never Lived!" |
God-Hating Liberals Say "Jesus Never Lived!"
NYC district denies birth of Jesus?
World Net Daily
In a dispute over display of holiday symbols, New York City schools
are allowing Jewish menorahs and Islamic crescents but barring
Christian nativity scenes, alleging the depiction of the birth of
Christ does not
represent a historical event.
In pleadings with a federal court in defense of the ban, New York City
lawyers asserted the "suggestion that a crèche is a historically
accurate representation of an event with secular significance is
wholly disingenuous."
The Jewish and Islamic symbols are allowed, the district says, because
they have a secular dimension, but the Christian symbols are "purely
religious."
Robert J. Muise, who will challenge the school policy at a federal
court hearing tomorrow in Brooklyn, told WorldNetDaily be believes
most Americans don't see it that way.
"The birth of Jesus is a historical event which serves as the basis
for celebration of Christmas," Muise stated. "It's of importance for
both Christians and non-Christians."
Muise's Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center filed a motion to
temporarily restrain the city from enforcing its ban on nativity
scenes. The center asserts New York's policy "promotes the Jewish and
Islamic faiths while conveying the impermissible message of
disapproval of Christianity in violation of the U.S. Constitution."
The Michigan group says one public-school principal issued a memo
encouraging teachers to bring to school "religious symbols" that
represent the Islamic and Jewish religions, but made no mention of
Christianity.
Jewish menorahs adorned the halls of the school as part of the
authorized displays, the More Center said, but students were not
allowed to make and similarly display nativity scenes
A parent who wrote a letter of complaint to her son's teacher received
a copy of the school's "Holiday Displays" policy in response.
Kate Ahlers, communications director for New York City's law
department, says schools can use things that are secular like
menorahs, stars and snowflakes, but the crèche is considered
religious.
"There is a separation of church and state that is part of the
Constitution," she claimed. "It's a clear belief that people try to
follow in schools and public office, and schools are saying they
adhere to that belief."
The point of schools, she added, "is not to debate religion; the point
of schools is to teach children."
The federal civil-rights lawsuit was filed on behalf of Andrea Skoros
and her two elementary-school children against the city of New York
and several school officials.
Skoros and her children are devout Roman Catholics.
"Can Christianity be erased from a public school?" Muse asked in a
statement. "Can 'Christ' be removed from Christmas? We will soon find
out."
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Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They
are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, selfish, intolerant,
bigoted and racist.
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13 Jan 2004 05:32:36 PM |
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| User: "In The Darkness" |
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| Title: Re: God-Hating Liberals Say "Jesus Never Lived!" |
13 Jan 2004 05:34:40 PM |
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Got a pointer to the ACTUAL article ?
Oh, and
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Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They
are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, selfish, intolerant,
bigoted and racist.
Looks to me like right wingers are "liars without remorse",
such as your article below demonstrates, rather clearly.
Kool Dude wrote:
God-Hating Liberals Say "Jesus Never Lived!"
NYC district denies birth of Jesus?
World Net Daily
In a dispute over display of holiday symbols, New York City schools
are allowing Jewish menorahs and Islamic crescents but barring
Christian nativity scenes, alleging the depiction of the birth of
Christ does not
represent a historical event.
In pleadings with a federal court in defense of the ban, New York City
lawyers asserted the "suggestion that a crèche is a historically
accurate representation of an event with secular significance is
wholly disingenuous."
The Jewish and Islamic symbols are allowed, the district says, because
they have a secular dimension, but the Christian symbols are "purely
religious."
Robert J. Muise, who will challenge the school policy at a federal
court hearing tomorrow in Brooklyn, told WorldNetDaily be believes
most Americans don't see it that way.
"The birth of Jesus is a historical event which serves as the basis
for celebration of Christmas," Muise stated. "It's of importance for
both Christians and non-Christians."
Muise's Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center filed a motion to
temporarily restrain the city from enforcing its ban on nativity
scenes. The center asserts New York's policy "promotes the Jewish and
Islamic faiths while conveying the impermissible message of
disapproval of Christianity in violation of the U.S. Constitution."
The Michigan group says one public-school principal issued a memo
encouraging teachers to bring to school "religious symbols" that
represent the Islamic and Jewish religions, but made no mention of
Christianity.
Jewish menorahs adorned the halls of the school as part of the
authorized displays, the More Center said, but students were not
allowed to make and similarly display nativity scenes
A parent who wrote a letter of complaint to her son's teacher received
a copy of the school's "Holiday Displays" policy in response.
Kate Ahlers, communications director for New York City's law
department, says schools can use things that are secular like
menorahs, stars and snowflakes, but the crèche is considered
religious.
"There is a separation of church and state that is part of the
Constitution," she claimed. "It's a clear belief that people try to
follow in schools and public office, and schools are saying they
adhere to that belief."
The point of schools, she added, "is not to debate religion; the point
of schools is to teach children."
The federal civil-rights lawsuit was filed on behalf of Andrea Skoros
and her two elementary-school children against the city of New York
and several school officials.
Skoros and her children are devout Roman Catholics.
"Can Christianity be erased from a public school?" Muse asked in a
statement. "Can 'Christ' be removed from Christmas? We will soon find
out."
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