"Liquid Grace" <yes@istillthink.not> wrote in message
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In article <5dcd2cF33jsp4U1@mid.individual.net>,
witchypoo@broomstick.com leapt about on one foot, screaching...

"Bill" <bigbill52@yuckawin.com> wrote
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There are few, if any, christian churches in the United States.

Oh *****. Just because YOU don't consider them "christian churches"
doesn't mean that isn't exactly what they are.

I hear bagpipes.

Which I actually enjoy ;)

And now I want porridge...mmm...porridge...and I'm freezing, and
porridge would be warm...BRB!

Hmm, sorry. Just have some instant oatmeal :(

"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:37:38 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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"Bill" <bigbill52@yuckawin.com> wrote
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There are few, if any, christian churches in the United States.

Oh *****. Just because YOU don't consider them "christian churches"
doesn't mean that isn't exactly what they are.

Bill is another blantant fraudulent "liar fer jeebers".
They seem so to be "thick" on the ground at the moment.

School's out? :)

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:31:11 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 04:37:38 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
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"Bill" <bigbill52@yuckawin.com> wrote
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There are few, if any, christian churches in the United States.

Oh *****. Just because YOU don't consider them "christian churches"
doesn't mean that isn't exactly what they are.

Bill is another blantant fraudulent "liar fer jeebers".
They seem so to be "thick" on the ground at the moment.

They're sociopaths bordering on psychopath who live in a world of
their own, in which falsehoods aren't lies. In which nobody else
counts, their personal space, their feelings, opinions, etc. In which
everybody takes their god for granted. In which the lies they tell
about those who don't, are "home truths" not slanders.

[and yes , I do know the difference between libel and slander; however
Usenet is a grey area and IMO more like a conversation than a
publication]

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:20:23 -0500, Bill <bigbill52@yuckawin.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 10:30:21 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:29:31 -0500, Bill <bigbill52@yuckawin.com>
wrote:
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:50:54 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:33:15 -0600, Pangur Ban
<Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
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Smiler squeezed out this idea :

"Pangur Ban" <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote in message
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"Sometimes I think Christians get all hung up on the sex thing
because it's easier to worry about sex than to ask yourself, *Am
I a good person*? If as long as you don't have sex with a lot of
people, you're a good person, that's easy. It's easy to avoid
that. It's easy to think, *I'm not fucking anyone, so I'm good*.
It makes it easy to be cruel, because as long as you're not
fucking around, nothing you do can be that bad. Is that what you
really think of God? Is he just the sex police...? Or is it
that sex is easy to worry about, easy to avoid, and the whole
love-your-neighbor-as-you-love-yourself that's hard? Do you do
the best for everyone in your life every damn day?"

A paragraph from a book I have just reread .....thought it was
interesting....

Pang

They don't seem to worry about their own sexual preferences, only
other peoples.
A "Do as I say, not as I do" mentality. If that doesn't work, they
call on their god to condemn it.
It doesn't worry them that their god has no meaning for people of
other (or no) faiths.
IOW "It's against god's law" = "I don't like what you do".

Smiler,
The godless one

As the paragraph said - if christians concentrate on other people's
sexual lives, they don't have to think about whether they are living
good lives.

Or for that matter, think about anything at all. The old
bureaucratic equation:
"Activity" = "Productivity"?

There are few, if any, christian churches in the United States. The

Break out the bagpipes.
The ones with the "No true Christians" tartan.

It is a tired old dodge, that cuts no ice with adult thinkers.

organizations that claim to be christian are corporations licensed and
regulated by the government and must conduct themselves within
established guidelines. They are conforming mechanisms for the state.

*All* churches are.
They once WERE the state, after all.
For millennia and longer.

Why would any christian church defend war?

I think that you should read the Old Testament at some stage. You
plainly have not read any of it.
Your question will be answered a hundred times over. The OT is
obscenely littered with YHWH's capricious tantrums demanding that his
deludees engage in endless slaughter, often of entire cities.

Unless they were used as
propaganda outlets for the elite.

As I said, that has been the primary reason thaqt the churches were
created in the first place, and maintained for exactly that reason:
for an elite to gain easy power over the gullible majority.

Some folk are so confused that they have strange idea that church
hierarchies have something to do with religion!

I see that we agree on some things.

"Thing".
Singular.

I would go a little further and
include atheistic organizations.

And what might they be, exactly?
Don't feel as though you have to hold back and not mention names, or
anything?
Come on, a list of organizations who's primary purpose is an absence of
an attribute.

This should be interesting, but is usually tedious.

Bear with me...When Satan offered Jesus

I will not "bear" with you, when you go off on a childish rant employing
mythical beings as thought they were somehow real.

You really *do* need to get psychiatric help, you know.

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