Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet NC (ncfake@ffs.ntrlly.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:

"dearcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
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Uncle Vic wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet dearcilla
(dearcilla@gmail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

...Even if you don't know s/he exists.

Even if it does, how do you know it loves you?

Experience.

Explain the experience.

"I refute Uncle Vic thus" <looks around for God to love>

LOL. What a great explanation - I bet all the religious blogs will be
quoting that stunning revelation. Yep, that about sums up the amount of
effort you're putting into this preach job (ie. none).

Like a Loki, eh?

Doc Smartass wrote:

"dearcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1134335274.271633.152690 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Uncle Vic wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet dearcilla
(dearcilla@gmail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

...Even if you don't know s/he exists.

Even if it does, how do you know it loves you?

Experience.

Explain the experience.

"I refute Uncle Vic thus" <looks around for God to love>

That's not a refutation, girlie. For all WE know, you looked at your
cat.

For all we know, Dr. Johnson never existed. And the rock was made of
styrofoam.

Doc Smartass wrote:

"dearcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in news:1134335274.271633.152690
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Uncle Vic wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet dearcilla
(dearcilla@gmail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

...Even if you don't know s/he exists.

Even if it does, how do you know it loves you?

Experience.

Explain the experience.

"I refute Uncle Vic thus" <looks around for God to love>

That's not a refutation, girlie. For all WE know, you looked at your cat.

For all we know, Dr. Johnson never existed. And the rock was made of styrofoam.

Doc Smartass wrote:

"dearcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1134334845.862187.124600@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

God's love is kind of like crack cocaine, only better. (Not that I
actually have compared the two).

Crack is cheap and so is gawd's luuurve.

Gawd's luuuurve is better and just as destructive than crack.

Well, regular everyday love can be destructive too, you know. People
are always getting into fights, having broken hearts, tearing
themselves up with jealousy or guilt over their relationships. But love
is still a good thing, without which how could we bear the world? And
so are drugs. And God is best of all.

You fucking addicts need to stop trying to sell your addiction to the rest
of us. I am sober and will remain thus, TYVGDM.

But what are you so afraid of / repelled by?

David H. wrote:

"dearcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Chris Johnson wrote:

dearcilla wrote:

Denis Loubet wrote:

"dearcilla" <dearcilla@gmail.com> wrote in message
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...Even if you don't know s/he exists.

Even if it does, how do you know it loves you?

Experience.

A tangible or verifiable experience? Or is it just a warm feeling of
contentment (or other manufacturable feeling that we associate with
love)?

Love and happiness are _not_ commodities. You can't manufacture them,
and you can't pay for them. I've tried, and I see others try, but it's
futile.

God's love is kind of like crack cocaine, only better. (Not that I
actually have compared the two).

Does it have to? Have you decreed that it does, and therefore it
must?

No, God doesn't have to love us. God just does, and I can't do anything
about it.

Any evidence?

Everything good and pleasurable is evidence of God's love to me, at
least when I'm in a believing mood.

Believing *mood?!
So, if you aren't in a "believing mood" then you do not believe your god
exists?

Faith is itself a gift from God, a.k.a. 'grace'. So sometimes, I don't
believe in God, as God may withhold a gift given freely. I was an
atheist for 28 years, until I went more or less completely mad.

Your god would not exist if no one believed in it?

Whichever god(s) exist, exist. Much like trees falling in the forest
with nobody to hear them.

You claim you are dealing with your eternal soul, and yet do not take it
seriously enough to be in the mood to believe in this god that loves you so
much that if you don't do what it wants it will burn you in eternal agony?

I don't control my moods. God is the author of everything. I think it's
in the job description.

Statements like these are what tells me that the faithful really really
know deep inside that it's all a bunch of crap.

Arguing with me is what tells me you can't accept that argument in your heart.

You can pray even if you are an atheist, you know.