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"Randy Story" |
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07 Jan 2005 11:27:33 PM |
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God not to blame! |
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents. These are a
direct result of a fallen world that is in turmoil. The physical laws that
are currently in motion account for most natural calamity. The motion itself
is not evil, it is just the relationship between this motion and people that
results in calamity. Take a tornado, the result of warm fronts colliding
with cold fronts. These fronts in themselves are a good thing, without them
we might not have proper rain or seasons, but when they collide near a
population we call the result of this collision evil. It is the same with
many accidents, alcohol is a good thing but put to much in a driver and
calamity may occur, again God allows us to destroy ourselves if we desire.
The real question that should be asked is1. why does he allow evil to
occur and 2. why so much & 3. Are there good reasons to allow evil.
I will give one answer to each for you to flame, there are many more.
1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage except
in the face of danger. it is impossible to have mercy except when confronted
with need. In other words God allows evil that we may become like him.
The final point to keep in mind is that death & suffering are part of a
short term plan compared to the rest of time. According to Christian
doctrine *all* will be raised to life in the ressurection. Some to heaven,
some to hell, each in accordance with their freewill choice in life.
Since Christ died for *all* mankind all will be saved except those that have
made a conscious choice to reject him.
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| User: "Ian Braidwood" |
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| Title: Re: God not to blame! |
08 Jan 2005 09:06:10 AM |
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<SNIP>
I will give one answer to each for you to flame, there are many more.
1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage
except
in the face of danger. it is impossible to have mercy except when
confronted
with need. In other words God allows evil that we may become like
him.
Here's another one:
If evil didn't occur, that would be a dead give away that He exists and
we all know how He likes to play Hide and Seek. After all, He would
have to make the world appear _exactly_ as if things happened in
proportion to natural causes or science would have discovered Him.
See how easy it is to make up silly excuses for things not being how
you'd expect? That's what's happened isn't it? You either made up these
excuses yourself, or copied them from someone else, who may have
claimed a revelation to make them seem less pathetic.
For your information, atheists don't blame God for all the evil in the
world, He doesn't exist and so, can't take responsibility; atheists ar
pointing out a logical flaw in your position.
As for the 'it's a test' hypothesis:
1. What about all the babys torn away from their mother's breast. How
can they prove their character?
2. What about all the old men, who could do nothing but stand and
watch? How can they prove their character?
3. Hasn't it occured to you that conscious agents have moral
obligations to each other? So where does this God get the right to play
with people like toys?
This is how religion blinds people to the wider picture and the moral
implications of the particular doctrinal beliefs.
Better that God doesn't exist than believe in a ham-fisted, callous
little trickster, who treats the world like an overgrown sand pit.
(-: Ian :-)
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| User: "navi-gater" |
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| Title: Re: God not to blame! |
08 Jan 2005 09:00:47 AM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a
God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni.
Atheists didn't make the ***** up about god being all-powerful, all-good
blah blah blah. Your gang made those claims up.
Don't moan about some people questioning it. If the claims your cult makes
are true, prove them. In the meantime, don't be surprised if you're treated
badly when you go looking for an argument (for what other purpose would you
come here?).
gater.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: God not to blame! |
08 Jan 2005 12:27:44 AM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a
God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni.
No.
Your "god" needs to pop into existence and take some responsibilities
instead of being a lazy, no-count nonexisting bum.
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Wart inhale dough way cur?
Hurl, hurl, door gong's oil hair!
Wart inhale dough way cur, nor?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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09 Jan 2005 12:29:22 AM |
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"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95D7BB61AD711askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a
God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni.
No.
Your "god" needs to pop into existence and take some responsibilities
instead of being a lazy, no-count nonexisting bum.
"He's an absentee landlord!"
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:36:17 PM |
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:29:22 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Doc Smartass" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95D7BB61AD711askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18...
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a
God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni.
No.
Your "god" needs to pop into existence and take some responsibilities
instead of being a lazy, no-count nonexisting bum.
"He's an absentee landlord!"
Slum Lord who's into beastiality.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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08 Jan 2005 10:36:30 AM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
(snip)
1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
So the god condones evil.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
So evil is necessary for the god's plan.
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage
except
in the face of danger. it is impossible to have mercy except when
confronted
with need. In other words God allows evil that we may become like him.
So evil is really only misunderstood good? It's actually all part of the
god's good plan?
Congratulations, you've defined evil out of existence.
The final point to keep in mind is that death & suffering are part of a
short term plan compared to the rest of time. According to Christian
doctrine *all* will be raised to life in the ressurection. Some to heaven,
some to hell, each in accordance with their freewill choice in life.
Since Christ died for *all* mankind all will be saved except those that
have
made a conscious choice to reject him.
Why didn't the god just create the people with pre-built and approved
characters? Why the unnecessary rigamarole of actually forcing people to
live their lives if the god knows how it's going to turn out? It could have
just created the end result of what it wants and avoided all the evil.
Instead it creates this sadistic Rube Goldberg universe, and watches as
everyone careens along their rails like marbles in some demented Mousetrap
game.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "kathryn" |
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08 Jan 2005 11:54:43 AM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni.
there's no god, there's no heaven, there's no hell, it's just fun watching
you christers try and justify your god.
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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07 Jan 2005 11:40:27 PM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents. These are a
direct result of a fallen world that is in turmoil. The physical laws that
are currently in motion account for most natural calamity. The motion
itself
is not evil, it is just the relationship between this motion and people
that
results in calamity. Take a tornado, the result of warm fronts colliding
with cold fronts. These fronts in themselves are a good thing, without
them
we might not have proper rain or seasons, but when they collide near a
population we call the result of this collision evil. It is the same with
many accidents, alcohol is a good thing but put to much in a driver and
calamity may occur, again God allows us to destroy ourselves if we desire.
The real question that should be asked is1. why does he allow evil to
occur and 2. why so much & 3. Are there good reasons to allow evil.
I will give one answer to each for you to flame, there are many more.
1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage
except
in the face of danger. it is impossible to have mercy except when
confronted
with need. In other words God allows evil that we may become like him.
The final point to keep in mind is that death & suffering are part of a
short term plan compared to the rest of time. According to Christian
doctrine *all* will be raised to life in the ressurection. Some to heaven,
some to hell, each in accordance with their freewill choice in life.
Since Christ died for *all* mankind all will be saved except those that
have
made a conscious choice to reject him.
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
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| User: "CQMMAN" |
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08 Jan 2005 11:03:04 AM |
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Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
Do people as stupid as Randy know they are stupid?
--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982
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| User: "Jez" |
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08 Jan 2005 05:49:29 PM |
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CQMMAN wrote:
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
Do people as stupid as Randy know they are stupid?
That would show a spark of intelligence, so I guess not.
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
yahoo ID: hellward2004
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:35:17 PM |
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 11:03:04 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Neil Kelsey <neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
Do people as stupid as Randy know they are stupid?
They think they are the epitome of brilliance.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Chris H" |
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07 Jan 2005 11:54:44 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
[snip]
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
Hey, don't forget his right to bare arms (you know, one of those nice
sleeveless jerkins[1])
--
C.
[1] Sorry it's late and I'm have a bit to drink and I am so remarkably
pissed of with xstains tonight trying to get Gerry Springer the Opera
banned from being shown tomorrow night - especially since none of the
stupid fuckwits have seen it.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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08 Jan 2005 01:43:25 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:40:27 GMT, "Neil Kelsey"
<neil_kelsey@telus.net> said in alt.atheism:
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
They shouldn't be allowed out without leashes.
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| User: "stoney" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:34:41 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:40:27 GMT, "Neil Kelsey"
<neil_kelsey@telus.net> wrote:
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com...
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents. These are a
direct result of a fallen world that is in turmoil. The physical laws that
are currently in motion account for most natural calamity. The motion
itself
is not evil, it is just the relationship between this motion and people
that
results in calamity. Take a tornado, the result of warm fronts colliding
with cold fronts. These fronts in themselves are a good thing, without
them
we might not have proper rain or seasons, but when they collide near a
population we call the result of this collision evil. It is the same with
many accidents, alcohol is a good thing but put to much in a driver and
calamity may occur, again God allows us to destroy ourselves if we desire.
The real question that should be asked is1. why does he allow evil to
occur and 2. why so much & 3. Are there good reasons to allow evil.
I will give one answer to each for you to flame, there are many more.
1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage
except
in the face of danger. it is impossible to have mercy except when
confronted
with need. In other words God allows evil that we may become like him.
The final point to keep in mind is that death & suffering are part of a
short term plan compared to the rest of time. According to Christian
doctrine *all* will be raised to life in the ressurection. Some to heaven,
some to hell, each in accordance with their freewill choice in life.
Since Christ died for *all* mankind all will be saved except those that
have
made a conscious choice to reject him.
Question to atheists: should people this stupid be allowed to vote?
Nor breed.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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08 Jan 2005 11:50:28 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Randy Story poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
If so, then prayer is an indication of weakness of character.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
If so, then prayer is pointless as the amount of evil cannot be reduced.
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage except
in the face of danger.
And if there were no danger then courage would not be necessary. Tell
me, Randy: why would your deity prefer to have courageous people in
heaven?
....
In other words God allows evil that we may become like him.
An omnipotent deity has nothing to fear, and therefore never has to
display courage.
....
Since Christ died for *all* mankind all will be saved except those that have
made a conscious choice to reject him.
The concepts of sin and salvation commit the Naturalistic Fallacy.
Regards,
Josef
We should listen first and foremost to our own experience...We should
stop looking for saviors... Society has not existed for thousands of
years because it had a succession of saviors. It's existed because it
has institutions and processes through which people can realize their
own goals.
-- Thomas Sowell
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| User: "Little Me" |
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08 Jan 2005 12:11:18 PM |
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1. *Allowing* evil is the only why to test the character of humanity.
What for? God knows everything doesnt he? The past? That to come,
everything. So he already knows those of us that will "fail" his sickening
test? Does he get some sick thrill out of creating a race of people, then
by HIS various so called "words" cause them to fight and kill one another in
the name of these "words" for thousands of years while he sits back watching
children starve everyday?
Test, shut up you mong.
2. The present evil is the least possible to test that character.
I thought so called evil came from "Satan and his Demons"? And I ask again,
WHY does a God that knows everything to be, that was and is now, need to
bloody test us for exactly? He knows the outcome, if he loves us so much,
just make people that will want to be his little servants, like he did with
the Angels. Seems to me, your God wants a load of robotic morons that will
grovel at his feet and sing how great he is for all eternity!
3. One good reason is act virtuous, it is impossible to have courage
except
in the face of danger.
Oh shut the hell up, this is nothing but vauge conjecture, your religion is
full of that nonsense
Christians are so full of it.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
08 Jan 2005 11:43:00 AM |
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In article <10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com>,
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents.
The man asks people to stop saying *GAWD!* was responsible for the
disaster... then proceeds in the next sentence to admit that he thinks
such people are right!
Seconds?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Martin Crisp" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
08 Jan 2005 12:49:29 PM |
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On Jan 8, 2005, nemo* sent message
<nemo0037-89FAD3.06430108012005@news1.east.earthlink.net>, which
allegedly said:
In article <10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com>,
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents.
<grrrr>
The man asks people to stop saying *GAWD!* was responsible for the
disaster... then proceeds in the next sentence to admit that he thinks
such people are right!
Seconds?
YO!
Have Fun
Martin
--
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AIM: Hypercube3141592
ICQ: 137333576
email: as given, or whatever you like @ tesseract.com.au
ph: http://www.whitepages.com.au/
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
10 Jan 2005 11:02:59 AM |
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In article <0001HW.BE062209001205C0F03865B0@news.ozemail.com.au>,
Martin Crisp <Spam.Bucket@tesseract.com.au> wrote:
On Jan 8, 2005, nemo* sent message
<nemo0037-89FAD3.06430108012005@news1.east.earthlink.net>, which
allegedly said:
In article <10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com>,
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents.
<grrrr>
The man asks people to stop saying *GAWD!* was responsible for the
disaster... then proceeds in the next sentence to admit that he thinks
such people are right!
Seconds?
YO!
Recorded.
Have Fun
Martin
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "duke" |
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08 Jan 2005 01:50:37 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:43:00 GMT, *nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com>,
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents.
The man asks people to stop saying *GAWD!* was responsible for the
disaster... then proceeds in the next sentence to admit that he thinks
such people are right!
Seconds?
No!!!!!
You just can't stand the truth. Man wanted to be as a god, so God let us -
wasn't that tsunami a good example of our being bad gods.
duke
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
08 Jan 2005 09:14:30 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:50:37 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:43:00 GMT, *nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com>,
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents.
The man asks people to stop saying *GAWD!* was responsible for the
disaster... then proceeds in the next sentence to admit that he thinks
such people are right!
Seconds?
No!!!!!
You just can't stand the truth.
"we both served [in Vietnam] "
-Earl Weber,
9/6/2004
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=e...
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1351 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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09 Jan 2005 06:14:30 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 13:14:30 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
"we both served [in Vietnam] "
-Earl Weber,
9/6/2004
= a yang fabrication.
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
= a duke truth.
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
= a yang fabrication.
duke
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "AngryJohn" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
09 Jan 2005 04:17:14 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 07:50:37 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 11:43:00 GMT, *nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <10tu6pt3oginvab@corp.supernews.com>,
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Will you atheists get off your bandwagon about how if there is a God he
is directly responsible for this tsuamni. Certainly as a Christian I
believed he allowed it just as he allows illness or accidents.
The man asks people to stop saying *GAWD!* was responsible for the
disaster... then proceeds in the next sentence to admit that he thinks
such people are right!
Seconds?
No!!!!!
You just can't stand the truth. Man wanted to be as a god, so God let us -
wasn't that tsunami a good example of our being bad gods.
duke
Please read the faq and follow the rules.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
09 Jan 2005 06:15:30 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:14 -0500, AngryJohn <AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net>
wrote:
Please read the faq and follow the rules.
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aa#2106
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No body believes you, angry.
duke
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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| User: "AngryJohn" |
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
10 Jan 2005 04:10:13 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:15:30 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:14 -0500, AngryJohn <AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net>
wrote:
Please read the faq and follow the rules.
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aa#2106
Remove Belief to reply
No body believes you, angry.
duke
Please read the faq, with comprehension.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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10 Jan 2005 04:29:09 AM |
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"AngryJohn" <AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net> wrote in message
news:qvv3u0pg95njb6h8hq0hf54f5m4bienfe6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:15:30 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:14 -0500, AngryJohn
<AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net>
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Please read the faq and follow the rules.
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No body believes you, angry.
duke
Here ya go, dookie. Just for you:
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| Title: Re: aa - TQOTM nomination (was: God not to blame! |
10 Jan 2005 12:27:03 PM |
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"AngryJohn" <AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:15:30 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:14 -0500, AngryJohn
<AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net>
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Please read the faq and follow the rules.
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No body believes you, angry.
duke
Please read the faq, with comprehension.
Puke is incapable :P
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11 Jan 2005 02:45:48 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:27:03 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"AngryJohn" <AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net> wrote in message
news:qvv3u0pg95njb6h8hq0hf54f5m4bienfe6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 12:15:30 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 23:17:14 -0500, AngryJohn
<AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net>
wrote:
Please read the faq and follow the rules.
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aa#2106
Remove Belief to reply
No body believes you, angry.
duke
Please read the faq, with comprehension.
Puke is incapable :P
Yeah but it is fun to watch him make an attempt to look like he has.
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| User: "Edith Cress" |
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09 Jan 2005 04:48:39 AM |
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The tsunami was simply population control.
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| User: "Jez" |
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09 Jan 2005 04:19:37 PM |
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Edith Cress wrote:
The tsunami was simply population control.
Sick ***** !
*PLONK*
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
NFS Underground2, Americas Army And MOH-PA
yahoo ID: hellward2004
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