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30 Mar 2005 06:36:29 AM |
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God owes us an apology |
https://secure.progressive.org/march05/ehren0305.php
EXCERPT
March 2005 Issue
Flip Side Barbara Ehrenreich
God Owes Us an Apology
Ehrenreich Column photoThe tsunami of sea water was followed instantly by a
tsunami of spittle as the religious sputtered to rationalize God's latest
felony. Here we'd been placidly killing each other a few dozen at a time in
Iraq, Darfur, Congo, Israel, and Palestine, when along comes the deity and
whacks a quarter million in a couple of hours between breakfast and lunch.
On CNN, NPR, Fox News, and in newspaper articles too numerous for Nexis to
count, men and women of the cloth weighed in solemnly on His existence, His
motives, and even His competence to continue as Ruler of Everything.
Theodicy, in other words--the attempt to reconcile God's perfect goodness
with the manifest evils of His world--has arisen from the waves. On the
retro, fundamentalist, side, various men of the cloth announced that the
tsunami was the rational act of a deity enraged by (take your pick): the
suppression of Christianity in South Asia, pornography and
child-trafficking in that same locale, or, in the view of some Muslim
commentators, the bikini-clad tourists at Phuket.
On the more liberal end of the theological spectrum, God's spokespeople
hastened to stuff their fingers in the ***** even as the floodwaters of
doubt washed over it. Of course, God exists, seems to be the general
consensus. And, of course, He is perfectly good. It's just that his
jurisdiction doesn't extend to tectonic plates. Or maybe it does and He
tosses us an occasional grenade like this just to see how quickly we can
mobilize to clean up the damage. Besides, as the Catholic priests like to
remind us, "He's a 'mystery' "--though that's never stopped them from
pronouncing His views on abortion with absolute certainty.
The clerics who are struggling to make sense of the tsunami must not have
noticed that this is hardly the first display of God's penchant for wanton,
homicidal mischief. Leaving out man-made genocide, war, and even those
"natural" disasters, like drought and famine, to which "man" invariably
contributes through his inept social arrangements, God has a lot to account
for in the way of earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, and plagues. Nor has
He ever shown much discrimination in his choice of victims. A tsunami hit
Lisbon in 1755, on All Saints Day, when the good Christians were all in
church. The faithful perished, while the denizens of the red light
district, which was built on strong stone, simply carried on sinning.
Similarly, last fall's hurricanes flattened the God-fearing, Republican
parts of Florida while sparing sin-soaked Key West and South Beach.
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| User: "Martin Holterman" |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
30 Mar 2005 09:32:03 AM |
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Something like: "Sorry for all the mess"?
Martin Holterman
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
https://secure.progressive.org/march05/ehren0305.php
EXCERPT
March 2005 Issue
Flip Side Barbara Ehrenreich
God Owes Us an Apology
Ehrenreich Column photoThe tsunami of sea water was followed instantly by a
tsunami of spittle as the religious sputtered to rationalize God's latest
felony. Here we'd been placidly killing each other a few dozen at a time in
Iraq, Darfur, Congo, Israel, and Palestine, when along comes the deity and
whacks a quarter million in a couple of hours between breakfast and lunch.
On CNN, NPR, Fox News, and in newspaper articles too numerous for Nexis to
count, men and women of the cloth weighed in solemnly on His existence, His
motives, and even His competence to continue as Ruler of Everything.
Theodicy, in other words--the attempt to reconcile God's perfect goodness
with the manifest evils of His world--has arisen from the waves. On the
retro, fundamentalist, side, various men of the cloth announced that the
tsunami was the rational act of a deity enraged by (take your pick): the
suppression of Christianity in South Asia, pornography and
child-trafficking in that same locale, or, in the view of some Muslim
commentators, the bikini-clad tourists at Phuket.
On the more liberal end of the theological spectrum, God's spokespeople
hastened to stuff their fingers in the ***** even as the floodwaters of
doubt washed over it. Of course, God exists, seems to be the general
consensus. And, of course, He is perfectly good. It's just that his
jurisdiction doesn't extend to tectonic plates. Or maybe it does and He
tosses us an occasional grenade like this just to see how quickly we can
mobilize to clean up the damage. Besides, as the Catholic priests like to
remind us, "He's a 'mystery' "--though that's never stopped them from
pronouncing His views on abortion with absolute certainty.
The clerics who are struggling to make sense of the tsunami must not have
noticed that this is hardly the first display of God's penchant for wanton,
homicidal mischief. Leaving out man-made genocide, war, and even those
"natural" disasters, like drought and famine, to which "man" invariably
contributes through his inept social arrangements, God has a lot to account
for in the way of earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, and plagues. Nor has
He ever shown much discrimination in his choice of victims. A tsunami hit
Lisbon in 1755, on All Saints Day, when the good Christians were all in
church. The faithful perished, while the denizens of the red light
district, which was built on strong stone, simply carried on sinning.
Similarly, last fall's hurricanes flattened the God-fearing, Republican
parts of Florida while sparing sin-soaked Key West and South Beach.
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| User: "David Vestal" |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
30 Mar 2005 12:06:30 PM |
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Martin Holterman <martin.holterman@wxs.nl> wrote in
news:d2ehij$k52$3@reader08.wxs.nl:
Something like: "Sorry for all the mess"?
"We apologize for the inconvenience?"
Martin Holterman
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
https://secure.progressive.org/march05/ehren0305.php
EXCERPT
March 2005 Issue
Flip Side Barbara Ehrenreich
God Owes Us an Apology
Ehrenreich Column photoThe tsunami of sea water was followed
instantly by a tsunami of spittle as the religious sputtered to
rationalize God's latest felony. Here we'd been placidly killing each
other a few dozen at a time in Iraq, Darfur, Congo, Israel, and
Palestine, when along comes the deity and whacks a quarter million in
a couple of hours between breakfast and lunch. On CNN, NPR, Fox News,
and in newspaper articles too numerous for Nexis to count, men and
women of the cloth weighed in solemnly on His existence, His motives,
and even His competence to continue as Ruler of Everything.
Theodicy, in other words--the attempt to reconcile God's perfect
goodness with the manifest evils of His world--has arisen from the
waves. On the retro, fundamentalist, side, various men of the cloth
announced that the tsunami was the rational act of a deity enraged by
(take your pick): the suppression of Christianity in South Asia,
pornography and child-trafficking in that same locale, or, in the
view of some Muslim commentators, the bikini-clad tourists at Phuket.
On the more liberal end of the theological spectrum, God's
spokespeople hastened to stuff their fingers in the ***** even as the
floodwaters of doubt washed over it. Of course, God exists, seems to
be the general consensus. And, of course, He is perfectly good. It's
just that his jurisdiction doesn't extend to tectonic plates. Or
maybe it does and He tosses us an occasional grenade like this just
to see how quickly we can mobilize to clean up the damage. Besides,
as the Catholic priests like to remind us, "He's a 'mystery'
"--though that's never stopped them from pronouncing His views on
abortion with absolute certainty.
The clerics who are struggling to make sense of the tsunami must not
have noticed that this is hardly the first display of God's penchant
for wanton, homicidal mischief. Leaving out man-made genocide, war,
and even those "natural" disasters, like drought and famine, to which
"man" invariably contributes through his inept social arrangements,
God has a lot to account for in the way of earthquakes, hurricanes,
tornadoes, and plagues. Nor has He ever shown much discrimination in
his choice of victims. A tsunami hit Lisbon in 1755, on All Saints
Day, when the good Christians were all in church. The faithful
perished, while the denizens of the red light district, which was
built on strong stone, simply carried on sinning. Similarly, last
fall's hurricanes flattened the God-fearing, Republican parts of
Florida while sparing sin-soaked Key West and South Beach.
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| User: "James" |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
30 Mar 2005 01:15:41 PM |
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David Vestal wrote:
Martin Holterman <martin.holterman@wxs.nl> wrote in
news:d2ehij$k52$3@reader08.wxs.nl:
Something like: "Sorry for all the mess"?
"We apologize for the inconvenience?"
"But I bet you didn't see that one coming, eh?"
--
James B, former monkey #4,567,000,000
aa #944
"Hence the greatest crimes have been found, in many instances,
compatible with a superstitious piety and devotion: Hence, it
is justly regarded as unsafe to draw any certain inference in
favour of a man's morals from the fervour or strictness of his
religious exercises, even though he himself believe them sincere."
-David Hume, "The Natural History of Religion"
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| User: "Rich Travsky " |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
30 Mar 2005 08:03:52 PM |
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James wrote:
David Vestal wrote:
Martin Holterman <martin.holterman@wxs.nl> wrote in
news:d2ehij$k52$3@reader08.wxs.nl:
Something like: "Sorry for all the mess"?
"We apologize for the inconvenience?"
"But I bet you didn't see that one coming, eh?"
"Your call is important to us..."
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| User: "zerkanX" |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
31 Mar 2005 04:05:25 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:03:52 -0700, Rich Travsky wrote:
"Your call is important to us..."
ROTFL!!!
or (gasp!)
"The number you've dialed..."
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| User: "zerkanX" |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
31 Mar 2005 04:01:20 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:06:30 +0000, David Vestal wrote:
Something like: "Sorry for all the mess"?
"We apologize for the inconvenience?"
PANIC
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| User: "sdq" |
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| Title: Re: God owes us an apology |
31 Mar 2005 10:48:44 AM |
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zerkanX wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 18:06:30 +0000, David Vestal wrote:
Something like: "Sorry for all the mess"?
"We apologize for the inconvenience?"
PANIC
Hgttg no doubt !!!
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