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"Andres64" |
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26 Jul 2007 06:19:24 PM |
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God, the sinner |
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 07:26:24 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has to decide
when your number is up.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 11:11:27 PM |
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian children or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you are just
as guilty as the evil party.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Klazmon.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 11:55:24 PM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly end it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any adversaries to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even play it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it happened on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on the
Sundays.
.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
27 Jul 2007 11:38:22 PM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly end it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any adversaries to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even play it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
28 Jul 2007 12:08:18 AM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
28 Jul 2007 07:35:23 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Pbashfrq? Lbh jvyy or nsgre uvf ercyl!
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
29 Jul 2007 02:40:56 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
29 Jul 2007 04:34:27 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
29 Jul 2007 04:47:29 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets
see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every
last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case
if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then
you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working
on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
It is still 7 days, but we used to start on Saturday. Later we started on
Sunday.
Now some start on Monday.
Different strokes for different folks.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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29 Jul 2007 08:32:59 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets
see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it. Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every
last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any case
if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then
you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working
on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
It is still 7 days, but we used to start on Saturday. Later we started on
Sunday.
Now some start on Monday.
You said that Saturday became Friday and Sunday became Saturday.
To do that, we would have had to have had sometime in our past, one 6 day
week.
When was this 6 day week?
If we never had this 6 day week then Saturday is, and always was, Saturday,
Sunday is, and always was, Sunday and Friday is, and always was, Friday.
So either tell us when these days changed-when the 6 day week was-or admit
that you're talking out your arse, as usual.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
29 Jul 2007 09:21:00 PM |
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets
see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc,
etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it.
Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not
truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every
last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any
case
if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it then
you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely
even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for
working
on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
It is still 7 days, but we used to start on Saturday. Later we started
on
Sunday.
Now some start on Monday.
You said that Saturday became Friday and Sunday became Saturday.
To do that, we would have had to have had sometime in our past, one 6 day
week.
When was this 6 day week?
If we never had this 6 day week then Saturday is, and always was,
Saturday,
Sunday is, and always was, Sunday and Friday is, and always was, Friday.
So either tell us when these days changed-when the 6 day week was-or admit
that you're talking out your arse, as usual.
Sunday means the hallowed day of the week, whether it is the first day of
the week or the last.
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun;
lets
see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc,
etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it.
Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not
truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over every
last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any
case
if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it
then
you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely
even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if
it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for
working
on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
It is still 7 days, but we used to start on Saturday. Later we started
on
Sunday.
Now some start on Monday.
You said that Saturday became Friday and Sunday became Saturday.
To do that, we would have had to have had sometime in our past, one 6 day
week.
When was this 6 day week?
If we never had this 6 day week then Saturday is, and always was,
Saturday,
Sunday is, and always was, Sunday and Friday is, and always was, Friday.
So either tell us when these days changed-when the 6 day week was-or
admit
that you're talking out your arse, as usual.
Sunday means the hallowed day of the week, whether it is the first day of
the week or the last.
You're talking out of your arse again.
No. Sabbath means holy day. In hebrew "Shabbat" = Saturday.
Just because xians decided to change their holy day to a Sunday (to be
different to Jews?) doesn't mean that the name of the day changed.
Jews have, since the alleged 10 commandments, always celebrated their
sabbath on a Saturday.
So why shouldn't they pull the ox out of a ditch on a Sunday, the first
working day of the week to them?
BTW, Moslems celebrate their sabbath on a Friday (again, to be different to
Jews?)
Smiler,
The godless one
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun;
lets
see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc,
etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it.
Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those
Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not
truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over
every
last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In any
case
if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it
then
you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would likely
even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if
it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for
working
on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
It is still 7 days, but we used to start on Saturday. Later we
started
on
Sunday.
Now some start on Monday.
You said that Saturday became Friday and Sunday became Saturday.
To do that, we would have had to have had sometime in our past, one 6
day
week.
When was this 6 day week?
If we never had this 6 day week then Saturday is, and always was,
Saturday,
Sunday is, and always was, Sunday and Friday is, and always was,
Friday.
So either tell us when these days changed-when the 6 day week was-or
admit
that you're talking out your arse, as usual.
Sunday means the hallowed day of the week, whether it is the first day
of
the week or the last.
You're talking out of your arse again.
No. Sabbath means holy day.
Not to English speaking Americans.
In hebrew "Shabbat" = Saturday.
Just because xians decided to change their holy day to a Sunday (to be
different to Jews?) doesn't mean that the name of the day changed.
If two different cultures independently named days of the week, then
yes, the name of the day changed.
Jews have, since the alleged 10 commandments, always celebrated their
sabbath on a Saturday.
So why shouldn't they pull the ox out of a ditch on a Sunday, the first
working day of the week to them?
The ox doesn't know when to fall into the ditch.
BTW, Moslems celebrate their sabbath on a Friday (again, to be different
to
Jews?)
To each his own.
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30 Jul 2007 07:39:28 PM |
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I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun;
lets
see
how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc,
etc,
etc).
It is not murder for the author of life to finish it.
Someone
has
to
decide when your number is up.
Like when it sent its' henchmen to murder all those
Egyptian
children
It is not murder for God to end a life, because he does not
truly
end
it.
He preserves it into forever.
or
murdered the old couple because they wouldn't hand over
every
last
cent
they had to Peter.
He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He did not lie, he allowed it to happen by the evil.
The xian holy book claims that the god created evil. In
any
case
if
you
have vast ability to prevent evil and do nothing about it
then
you
are
just
as guilty as the evil party.
Then if you created a computer game, you would not put any
adversaries
to
the objective in your game?
The game would be hopelessly boring, and no one would
likely
even
play
it.
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
That was the ox in the ditch clause.
Except there were no oxes in ditches.
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even
if
it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for
working
on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
What do they call Saturday?
Friday.
When did this occur?
When did we all have this 6 day week?
It is still 7 days, but we used to start on Saturday. Later we
started
on
Sunday.
Now some start on Monday.
You said that Saturday became Friday and Sunday became Saturday.
To do that, we would have had to have had sometime in our past, one 6
day
week.
When was this 6 day week?
If we never had this 6 day week then Saturday is, and always was,
Saturday,
Sunday is, and always was, Sunday and Friday is, and always was,
Friday.
So either tell us when these days changed-when the 6 day week was-or
admit
that you're talking out your arse, as usual.
Sunday means the hallowed day of the week, whether it is the first day
of
the week or the last.
You're talking out of your arse again.
No. Sabbath means holy day.
Not to English speaking Americans.
Not to Mark Earnest, who changes the meaning of words to suit his argument.
In hebrew "Shabbat" = Saturday.
Just because xians decided to change their holy day to a Sunday (to be
different to Jews?) doesn't mean that the name of the day changed.
If two different cultures independently named days of the week, then
yes, the name of the day changed.
No. The names of the days never changed. The day that xians call the sabbath
is Sunday. The day that jews call the sabbath is Saturday. The day the
Muslims call the sabbath is Friday. They always have been those days.
Jews have, since the alleged 10 commandments, always celebrated their
sabbath on a Saturday.
So why shouldn't they pull the ox out of a ditch on a Sunday, the first
working day of the week to them?
The ox doesn't know when to fall into the ditch.
And you don't know what day it is either, moron.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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30 Jul 2007 04:20:07 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 16:47:29 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
Different strokes for different folks.
Different "reality" for some, too.
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28 Jul 2007 07:31:05 PM |
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<Snip>
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
<Begin nominated portion>
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
<End nominated portion>
That takes the gold medal for utter ignorance.
Seconds, anyone?
Smiler,
The godless one
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28 Jul 2007 08:04:18 PM |
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Op Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:31:05 +0200 schreef Smiler <Smiler@Joe.King.com>:
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<Snip>
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
<Begin nominated portion>
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
<End nominated portion>
That takes the gold medal for utter ignorance.
Seconds, anyone?
Smiler,
The godless one
Mark sure is something! I'll second it.
--
Hannele
aa #2221
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04 Aug 2007 02:20:50 PM |
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Hannele wrote:
Op Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:31:05 +0200 schreef Smiler <Smiler@Joe.King.com>:
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message
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<Snip>
Oxes fell in ditches all the time in those days, and even if it
happened
on
Sunday,
the Jews were as likely as not to pull them out.
That is why Jesus invented the ox in the ditch clause for working on
the
Sundays.
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
<Begin nominated portion>
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
<End nominated portion>
That takes the gold medal for utter ignorance.
Seconds, anyone?
Smiler,
The godless one
Mark sure is something! I'll second it.
Recorded
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Charter member, SMASH!!
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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29 Jul 2007 12:06:54 AM |
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Smiler:
Seconds, anyone?
Theist's honorary second here, for what it's worth :)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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30 Jul 2007 04:18:49 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:08:18 -0500, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
No, it was Sunday. They just call Sunday Saturday now.
No, Mark - "Shabbat" is Hebrew for "Saturday". Literally (that means
it's the exact translation). If you want to argue Hebrew, first learn
Hebrew. Telling someone who actually knows Hebrew that "Shabbat"
means "Sunday" is like telling someone who understands English that
the real name of the color of grass is "orange", but "they just call
orange green now."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
30 Jul 2007 04:15:37 PM |
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:38:22 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
That's like saying that our Tuesday falls on Tuesday. "Shabbat" is
the Hebrew name for the day we call Saturday. Exodus 20:8 refers to
Saturday, not to some unnamed day of rest. Naming Sunday "the
sabbath" is just Christianity's way of distancing itself from its
roots.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
30 Jul 2007 07:32:56 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:38:22 GMT, "Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com>
wrote:
One slight problem with that.
The Jew's sabbath is on Saturday.
That's like saying that our Tuesday falls on Tuesday. "Shabbat" is
the Hebrew name for the day we call Saturday. Exodus 20:8 refers to
Saturday, not to some unnamed day of rest. Naming Sunday "the
sabbath" is just Christianity's way of distancing itself from its
roots.
Agreed and already known, but it's fun taunting the moron.
He stated that the sabbath was on a Sunday at the time of (the alleged)
Moses.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 10:32:00 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
When did God say He couldn't work on Sunday? If God worked on Sunday, when
did He do that? Does what God does qualify as Work?
Do you have anything intelligent to say?
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| User: "Andres64" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 11:21:53 PM |
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On Jul 26, 11:32 pm, "ike milligan" <accordion...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"Andres64" <andres...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
When did God say He couldn't work on Sunday?
So you subscribe to the "Do as I say, not as I do" doctrine?
If God worked on Sunday, when
did He do that?
Look dipshit. Have you never heard of "Acts of God"? Do you think
that have have never happened on Sunday?
Does what God does qualify as Work?
According to the Bible, yes. Any other questions?
....snip...
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 06:50:08 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
Yeah. He 'created' evil. Who or what could *possibly* be more evil than the
creator of 'evil'. Almost as bad : Who or what could *possibly* be more
'sinful', more of a 'sinner' than a creature who consciously creates 'evil'
and then *malevolently* injects existence with it and then allows this
'disease' to infect/invade every single human being -- even helpless
babies -- with not so much of a *trace* of remorse?
Oh, I forget. Imaginary deity are incapable of 'sinning'. And why's that you
ask? Because the men that made-up this make-believe deity known as 'God'
*said* so. That's why. Got a problem with that? Well maintaining that 'God'
can 'sin' is a 'sin' in itself, you know! And why's that, you ask? Because
the men that made up that make-believe deity known as 'God' *said* so.
*That's* why!
Did I fail to mention that 'punishing' the children and grandchildren and
great-grandchildren for something they had absolutely *nothing* to do with
is a 'sin'?
Oh, that's right. Where is *my* head today? Infecting *all* of mankind
(excepting that 1st-century Jewish, 'God-Man', fella) with 'Original sin'
isn't a 'sin' because ... well you get the picture.
Greywolf
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 07:31:27 PM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:13aicptdf02aa4d@news.supernews.com...
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
Yeah. He 'created' evil.
Who or what could *possibly* be more evil than the
creator of 'evil'.
I suppose if you created a computer game you would not put anything to
resist your progress, some enemy.
That would be a very boring game, and few if any would play it.
Almost as bad : Who or what could *possibly* be more
'sinful', more of a 'sinner' than a creature who consciously creates
'evil'
and then *malevolently* injects existence with it and then allows this
'disease' to infect/invade every single human being -- even helpless
babies -- with not so much of a *trace* of remorse?
Oh, I forget. Imaginary deity are incapable of 'sinning'. And why's that
you
ask? Because the men that made-up this make-believe deity known as 'God'
*said* so. That's why. Got a problem with that? Well maintaining that
'God'
can 'sin' is a 'sin' in itself, you know! And why's that, you ask? Because
the men that made up that make-believe deity known as 'God' *said* so.
*That's* why!
Did I fail to mention that 'punishing' the children and grandchildren and
great-grandchildren for something they had absolutely *nothing* to do with
is a 'sin'?
All children are subject to the successes and failures of their parents.
Just a tragic part of life.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 06:44:12 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
Didn't the Jesus character supposedly "liberate" a donkey? (That could count
for stealing AND coveting. One usually has to covet before they steal.)
Weren't the very commandments themselves issued as graven images? (I love
the irony of that one.)
Did the god character covet Joseph's wife? (I'd say a good case can be
made.)
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 07:28:42 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:nMydndCElMZTrDTbnZ2dnUVZ_rGrnZ2d@io.com...
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc). He
has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
Didn't the Jesus character supposedly "liberate" a donkey? (That could
count
for stealing AND coveting. One usually has to covet before they steal.)
A king has jurisdiction over everything in his reign, including donkeys.
Weren't the very commandments themselves issued as graven images? (I love
the irony of that one.)
Graven images in God's book are always of other gods, whether real or
imaginary.
Did the god character covet Joseph's wife? (I'd say a good case can be
made.)
Not at all, or he would have appeared to her.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 09:48:36 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:nMydndCElMZTrDTbnZ2dnUVZ_rGrnZ2d@io.com...
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
He has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
Didn't the Jesus character supposedly "liberate" a donkey? (That
could
count
for stealing AND coveting. One usually has to covet before they
steal.)
A king has jurisdiction over everything in his reign, including
donkeys.
So the law doesn't apply to the lawmakers or the law enforcers? This
sounds like the Bush regime.
Weren't the very commandments themselves issued as graven images? (I
love the irony of that one.)
Graven images in God's book are always of other gods, whether real or
imaginary.
Are you saying there are other gods that are real?
Did the god character covet Joseph's wife? (I'd say a good case can
be made.)
Not at all, or he would have appeared to her.
What omnipresent god would have to appear to someone? Besides, if I'm
doing some coveting I want to make sure the covetee doesn't see me.
LOL
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 10:07:17 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9979C988D27D6vicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
news:nMydndCElMZTrDTbnZ2dnUVZ_rGrnZ2d@io.com...
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1185491964.927726.91230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
I know. I know. God is fictional. But just for fun; lets see how
well God lives up to his commandments.
How many commandments has God broken?
Well he has murdered: (flood, saddam and gomorrah, etc, etc, etc).
He has lied: 2 Th.2:11-12
He has worked on Sunday: Acts of God
Others?
Didn't the Jesus character supposedly "liberate" a donkey? (That
could
count
for stealing AND coveting. One usually has to covet before they
steal.)
A king has jurisdiction over everything in his reign, including
donkeys.
So the law doesn't apply to the lawmakers or the law enforcers? This
sounds like the Bush regime.
Sure it applies to the lawmakers. But remember how it was in kingdoms of
old.
Everything in the kingdom, strictly speaking, belongs to the king. Whatever
he decrees is law. If the king says the donkey is his, the peasants have to
submit.
Weren't the very commandments themselves issued as graven images? (I
love the irony of that one.)
Graven images in God's book are always of other gods, whether real or
imaginary.
Are you saying there are other gods that are real?
Absolutely.
Did the god character covet Joseph's wife? (I'd say a good case can
be made.)
Not at all, or he would have appeared to her.
What omnipresent god would have to appear to someone? Besides, if I'm
doing some coveting I want to make sure the covetee doesn't see me.
If God wanted Mary as a wife, he would have appeared to her.
That is the only way he could have her that way.
In olden days before the flood, gods took human wives all the time.
That is where men like Hercules came from.
In God's case, however, he did not want Mary for a wife. He just wanted her
to surrogately carry his and the Spirit's child.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: God, the sinner |
26 Jul 2007 11:37:08 PM |
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Andres64:
Others?
Starting your creation with a fat lie ("thou shalt surely die" if you eat
that fruit... oh really?) also ain't something to be proud of. And I'm
pretty sure we'll find all those commandments broken by the very one who
supposedly authored them (inasmuch as possible - hard to dishonor your
parents if you have none...).
Of course, as Ex 34 shows, the final version of those commandments is
something completely different... and how does this imaginary gawd live up
to _them?_
Kiss your gawd's arse: A bit difficult if you're this gawd yourself, so
let's excuse this failure
Kill all heathens: Well, here we have something gawd did quite well, no?
(Not perfectly though, for <Matrix' Morpheus> "we are still heeeeeeeere!")
Seems like it's all a question of what commandments we measure gawd with...
(or by? In case someone started thinking my command of the English language
is perfect, here's evidence to the contrary 8) )
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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