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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Sound of Trumpet"
Date: 16 Aug 2006 12:48:08 PM
Object: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-07-19td.html
Theodore Dalrymple
Power to the Pedophiles
The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision
19 July 2006
Once upon a time, satire was a commentary on life, but nowadays it
seems as if life is a commentary on satire. How else are we to describe
the decision of the Dutch court to allow the Brotherly Love, Freedom,
and Diversity Party to contest the next elections?
The party was formed by pedophiles, and its political program consists
of lowering the age of consent to sexual intercourse from 16 to 12, the
legalization of the possession of child pornography and of sexual
intercourse with animals (provided, of course, that they are not
ill-treated and do not suffer as a result), as well as legal license to
broadcast pornography during the day and violent pornography at night.
It wants also to remove the taboo on pedophilia-a taboo that party
spokesmen claim has strengthened since the conviction of Marc Dutroux
in Belgium, who kidnapped six girls for sexual purposes and starved and
tortured four of them to death. Perhaps he wouldn't have felt obliged
to kill them, the party contends, if pedophilia had not had such a bad
name in the first place.
The problem with the court's ruling is not that it is likely to bring
the Brotherly Love Party to power. The party is most unlikely to
receive the 5 percent of the votes that it needs to attain
parliamentary representation. Nor is it likely to encourage many of the
Dutch to change their sexual practices, though it might in the long run
encourage experimentation precisely because of the breaking of the
taboo.
But the ruling opens even wider the dangerous gulf between the pays
l=E9gal and the pays r=E9el. According to a survey, 82 percent of the
Dutch population want the party outlawed, and this huge majority cannot
consist entirely of straitlaced Calvinists. It is not as if Dutch
society were illiberal and offered no opportunity whatever for the
expression of sexual difference, or as if it prescribed an inflexible
sexual code. But even the liberal Dutch obviously feel that society has
to draw a line somewhere.
Courts do not exist merely to codify the prejudices of the population,
of course, however strong they might be. Yet when court rulings are too
radically disconnected from the moral sensibility of the population,
the law itself comes into disrepute and loses the legitimacy that is
nine tenths of its power. There is then a risk of a breakdown of law
and order, and of a violent political backlash. It is not surprising
that one of the leaders of the Brotherly Love Party recently had to
flee a trailer park where he was staying.
There is another nagging worry about the ruling in Holland's present
circumstances. If society cannot protect itself from the activities of
a handful of pedophiles whose ability to threaten it with violence is
minimal, how will it protect itself (and on what basis) against the
activities of the far more numerous, determined, and dangerous
Islamists? Will this ruling be seen in times to come as but a sentence
in the long Dutch suicide note?
.

User: "Hotel Charlie One"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 17 Aug 2006 09:32:04 AM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in
news:1155750488.320335.211460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

The problem with the court's ruling is not that it is likely to
bring the Brotherly Love Party to power. The party is most unlikely
to receive the 5 percent of the votes that it needs to attain
parliamentary representation. Nor is it likely to encourage many of
the Dutch to change their sexual practices ...

'nuff said!
--
The actions of the disgraceful Clinton and Bush administrations
make it possible for me to say without shame that I deeply regret
the day I put the uniform of my country. The freedoms that I was
willing to protect with my life are being lost. The America of
our founders is dead. All we are waiting for now is rigor mortis.
HotelCharlieOne
.

User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 03:00:18 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:1155750488.320335.211460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-07-19td.html
By Godless Europe, I assume you mean Vatican City.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
.

User: "Newk Indofman"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 03:20:17 PM
"Sound of Trumpet" <soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:1155750488.320335.211460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-07-19td.html
Hmm... and who said the influence of the Roman Catholic Church in Europe is
gone?
.

User: "JAF"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 01:07:06 PM
On 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote:
Oh *****.
--
JAF
anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
.
User: "Titus McHunt"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 01:13:37 PM
"JAF" <anarchSPAMKILLER@ntlworld.com> wrote

Oh *****.

<'Kin Roared!>
Hi 5, dude.
.
User: "JAF"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 01:46:02 PM
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:13:37 +0100, "Titus McHunt"
<qrnq_znatyrq_cvtrba@zfa.pbz> wrote:

"JAF" <anarchSPAMKILLER@ntlworld.com> wrote

Oh *****.


<'Kin Roared!>

Hi 5, dude.

Why thank you.
--
JAF
anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
.


User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 05:45:13 AM
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:07:06 GMT, JAF <anarchSPAMKILLER@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

On 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote:

Oh *****.

We couldn't be so lucky. And the moron is posting through Google, who,
as we well know, won't do a fucking thing about trolls.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Godless Google Gives Power To The Trolls 20 Aug 2006 09:00:20 AM
John Baker wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:07:06 GMT, JAF <anarchSPAMKILLER@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

On 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<soundoftrumpet@bluebottle.com> wrote:

Oh *****.


We couldn't be so lucky. And the moron is posting through Google, who,
as we well know, won't do a fucking thing about trolls.

There is not much they can do about SoT who has already gone
through at least one name change. They do on occasion delete
particularly trollish or commercial articles.
I don't see any objection to SoT, though: he, she or it defames
Christianity and organized religion in general by associating
them with racism and fascism, and otherwise provides a lot
of humor in giving us a glimpse of the dank hothouse of
far-right-wing Catholicism.
.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 02:42:06 PM
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision

Oh please, just because they have the right to "run" doesn't mean anything.
You know we have a Communist party in the US and they run all the time?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 03:22:16 PM
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision


Oh please, just because they have the right to "run" doesn't mean anything.

You know we have a Communist party in the US and they run all the time?

He prolly doesn't.. He prolly gets his news from Faux..
'Sides, this is the first I've heard of it, and I watch standerd news
shows..
PDW
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 06:35:15 PM
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:22:16 -0700, Syd M. wrote:

Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision


Oh please, just because they have the right to "run" doesn't mean
anything.

You know we have a Communist party in the US and they run all the time?

He prolly doesn't.. He prolly gets his news from Faux.. 'Sides, this is
the first I've heard of it, and I watch standerd news shows..

Oh yeah, we have an actual Communist party, the CPUSA...
http://www.cpusa.org/
An actual Socialist party (no, not the Democrats <g>)...
http://sp-usa.org/
And all kinds of curious little parties running around. Including, yes,
the American Nazi Party, which has some out right *hysterical, um,
hysteria on it's web site. Such as their "scenario" for 2025:
"White girls who refuse the advances of Negroids, are publicly gang-raped
so as to serve as examples to other shuddering Aryan females. Children are
now taken from their houses, by force, to be brought up in a
'Multi-Cultural' home of Negroids, Arabs, Muslims and Gooks, all in the
name of 'brotherhood and love'..."
http://www.americannaziparty.com/
The Christian Falagist Party with the funny name but talk about scary
people...
http://www.falange.us/
We have tons of odd little parties running around. Just allowing people to
organize and run candidates doesn't "give power" to anybody as Soviet of
Trumpet claims...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.

User: "brique"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 17 Aug 2006 11:22:09 AM
Syd M. <pdwright42@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1155759736.353643.125380@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...


Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision


Oh please, just because they have the right to "run" doesn't mean

anything.


You know we have a Communist party in the US and they run all the time?

He prolly doesn't.. He prolly gets his news from Faux..
'Sides, this is the first I've heard of it, and I watch standerd news
shows..

It got mentioned a few months ago, I saw a short clip on the BBC or it may
have been ITV news. The non-tabloid press here did cover the story in a bit
more detail. It seemed to be a bit of agit-prop directed at party-funding
rules in Holland. Its seems that if you can get yourself listed as a
'proper' political party, the state gives a grant. These rules are supposed
to be non-judgemental, the definition of a 'party' covering some form of
national or regional organisation and an indication of some level of support
seems to be the minimum standard. This 'party' met the minimum standards and
thus were perfectly within their 'rights' to make a claim for funding, same
as all the other 'parties' who feed at the state trough. Naturally, the
freedom-loving democrats in all the other state-funded parties objected,
crazymotherfuckers to the fore, as usual. It seems state-funding for thier
political, moral, ethical and religious stance is fine, but they don't like
extending democracy to anyone they tend to disagree with.
.


User: "Jos Flachs"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 19 Aug 2006 07:43:53 PM
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:42:06 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision


Oh please, just because they have the right to "run" doesn't mean anything.

You know we have a Communist party in the US and they run all the time?

The court looked into their books of law and obviously didn't see
anything forbidding this party.
As they are no danger to society, they decided to let nature take it's
cause.
The only known founder (there are three, two are anonymous) was fired
from his job. He worked in an home for the elderly (???? I'd expected
a kindergarten) as dishwasher. The old geezers home doesn't want to be
associated in any way with this party.
In order to register for the national elections, one has to submit 30
signatures of supporters to the 18 electoral district boards. they
probably won't be able to find that many people willing to submit
their signatures.
Nationwide this party is condemned. Funny enough, NOT by left wing
parties. The extreme left wing supports this bunch of loonies.
As we have elections scheduled for 22 November, more loony groups want
to get their ideas launched in parliament:
One new party is the party for animals. They want animals to have sex.
They find it abhorrent most animals (farm animals and pets alike) die
as virgins. Animals have a right of having sex as well.
Another group wants to get in parliament to investigate 9-11. Nothing
more. Just that.
But we are a parliamentary democracy, so they have a right to run.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 06:54:55 AM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:43:53 +0700, Jos Flachs wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 14:42:06 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 10:48:08 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision


Oh please, just because they have the right to "run" doesn't mean anything.

You know we have a Communist party in the US and they run all the time?


The court looked into their books of law and obviously didn't see
anything forbidding this party.

As they are no danger to society, they decided to let nature take it's
cause.

The only known founder (there are three, two are anonymous) was fired
from his job. He worked in an home for the elderly (???? I'd expected
a kindergarten) as dishwasher. The old geezers home doesn't want to be
associated in any way with this party.

In order to register for the national elections, one has to submit 30
signatures of supporters to the 18 electoral district boards. they
probably won't be able to find that many people willing to submit
their signatures.

Nationwide this party is condemned. Funny enough, NOT by left wing
parties. The extreme left wing supports this bunch of loonies.

As we have elections scheduled for 22 November, more loony groups want
to get their ideas launched in parliament:

One new party is the party for animals. They want animals to have sex.
They find it abhorrent most animals (farm animals and pets alike) die
as virgins. Animals have a right of having sex as well.

Another group wants to get in parliament to investigate 9-11. Nothing
more. Just that.

But we are a parliamentary democracy, so they have a right to run.

SoT ignores all the radicals and lunatics that run for offices all the
time over here. I don't know if they're still around but we had some goofy
"transcendental meditation" party at one point that was going to chant
their way to world peace or something like that.
What SoT (being a sot) ignores is that it's actually far worse to drive
political groups of any kind "underground." Better to have them above
ground where they can be seen and the public thinking "what a bunch of
loons" than have them festering and turning into radicals and terrorists.
SoT also conveniently overlooks that here in the "godly" US, we have
NAMBLA...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.



User: "Conspiracy of Doves"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 01:08:10 PM
Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-07-19td.html


Theodore Dalrymple

Power to the Pedophiles

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision

19 July 2006


Once upon a time, satire was a commentary on life, but nowadays it
seems as if life is a commentary on satire. How else are we to describe
the decision of the Dutch court to allow the Brotherly Love, Freedom,
and Diversity Party to contest the next elections?

The party was formed by pedophiles, and its political program consists
of lowering the age of consent to sexual intercourse from 16 to 12, the
legalization of the possession of child pornography and of sexual
intercourse with animals (provided, of course, that they are not
ill-treated and do not suffer as a result), as well as legal license to
broadcast pornography during the day and violent pornography at night.
It wants also to remove the taboo on pedophilia-a taboo that party
spokesmen claim has strengthened since the conviction of Marc Dutroux
in Belgium, who kidnapped six girls for sexual purposes and starved and
tortured four of them to death. Perhaps he wouldn't have felt obliged
to kill them, the party contends, if pedophilia had not had such a bad
name in the first place.

The problem with the court's ruling is not that it is likely to bring
the Brotherly Love Party to power. The party is most unlikely to
receive the 5 percent of the votes that it needs to attain
parliamentary representation. Nor is it likely to encourage many of the
Dutch to change their sexual practices, though it might in the long run
encourage experimentation precisely because of the breaking of the
taboo.

But the ruling opens even wider the dangerous gulf between the pays
l=E9gal and the pays r=E9el. According to a survey, 82 percent of the
Dutch population want the party outlawed, and this huge majority cannot
consist entirely of straitlaced Calvinists. It is not as if Dutch
society were illiberal and offered no opportunity whatever for the
expression of sexual difference, or as if it prescribed an inflexible
sexual code. But even the liberal Dutch obviously feel that society has
to draw a line somewhere.

Courts do not exist merely to codify the prejudices of the population,
of course, however strong they might be. Yet when court rulings are too
radically disconnected from the moral sensibility of the population,
the law itself comes into disrepute and loses the legitimacy that is
nine tenths of its power. There is then a risk of a breakdown of law
and order, and of a violent political backlash. It is not surprising
that one of the leaders of the Brotherly Love Party recently had to
flee a trailer park where he was staying.

There is another nagging worry about the ruling in Holland's present
circumstances. If society cannot protect itself from the activities of
a handful of pedophiles whose ability to threaten it with violence is
minimal, how will it protect itself (and on what basis) against the
activities of the far more numerous, determined, and dangerous
Islamists? Will this ruling be seen in times to come as but a sentence
in the long Dutch suicide note?

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?
.
User: "Neil Kelsey"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 01:21:11 PM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-07-19td.html


Theodore Dalrymple

Power to the Pedophiles

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision

19 July 2006


Once upon a time, satire was a commentary on life, but nowadays it
seems as if life is a commentary on satire. How else are we to describe
the decision of the Dutch court to allow the Brotherly Love, Freedom,
and Diversity Party to contest the next elections?

The party was formed by pedophiles, and its political program consists
of lowering the age of consent to sexual intercourse from 16 to 12, the
legalization of the possession of child pornography and of sexual
intercourse with animals (provided, of course, that they are not
ill-treated and do not suffer as a result), as well as legal license to
broadcast pornography during the day and violent pornography at night.
It wants also to remove the taboo on pedophilia-a taboo that party
spokesmen claim has strengthened since the conviction of Marc Dutroux
in Belgium, who kidnapped six girls for sexual purposes and starved and
tortured four of them to death. Perhaps he wouldn't have felt obliged
to kill them, the party contends, if pedophilia had not had such a bad
name in the first place.

The problem with the court's ruling is not that it is likely to bring
the Brotherly Love Party to power. The party is most unlikely to
receive the 5 percent of the votes that it needs to attain
parliamentary representation. Nor is it likely to encourage many of the
Dutch to change their sexual practices, though it might in the long run
encourage experimentation precisely because of the breaking of the
taboo.

But the ruling opens even wider the dangerous gulf between the pays
l=E9gal and the pays r=E9el. According to a survey, 82 percent of the
Dutch population want the party outlawed, and this huge majority cannot
consist entirely of straitlaced Calvinists. It is not as if Dutch
society were illiberal and offered no opportunity whatever for the
expression of sexual difference, or as if it prescribed an inflexible
sexual code. But even the liberal Dutch obviously feel that society has
to draw a line somewhere.

Courts do not exist merely to codify the prejudices of the population,
of course, however strong they might be. Yet when court rulings are too
radically disconnected from the moral sensibility of the population,
the law itself comes into disrepute and loses the legitimacy that is
nine tenths of its power. There is then a risk of a breakdown of law
and order, and of a violent political backlash. It is not surprising
that one of the leaders of the Brotherly Love Party recently had to
flee a trailer park where he was staying.

There is another nagging worry about the ruling in Holland's present
circumstances. If society cannot protect itself from the activities of
a handful of pedophiles whose ability to threaten it with violence is
minimal, how will it protect itself (and on what basis) against the
activities of the far more numerous, determined, and dangerous
Islamists? Will this ruling be seen in times to come as but a sentence
in the long Dutch suicide note?


Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?

You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.
.
User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 16 Aug 2006 03:32:08 PM
Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.

It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 09:51:02 AM
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->

I do not!
And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!
For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 10:08:03 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!

Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm high
on life!
Umm, what were we talking about?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 10:14:26 AM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:03 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm high
on life!

Umm, what were we talking about?

I don't know. I'm not here. I'm not trapped by an evil house that won't
let me go! I'm not! I'm not!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 01:04:36 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXJQ-dzP4XXZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:03 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm
high
on life!

Umm, what were we talking about?


I don't know. I'm not here. I'm not trapped by an evil house that won't
let me go! I'm not! I'm not!

Bummer! :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 01:35:03 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:04:36 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXJQ-dzP4XXZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:03 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm
high
on life!

Umm, what were we talking about?


I don't know. I'm not here. I'm not trapped by an evil house that won't
let me go! I'm not! I'm not!


Bummer! :)

Don't let the house hear you but I'm going to sneak out about Tuesday when
it's asleep...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.


User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 12:32:26 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:14:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:03 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm high
on life!

Umm, what were we talking about?


I don't know. I'm not here. I'm not trapped by an evil house that won't
let me go! I'm not! I'm not!

What have you done to offend Hugh Laurie?
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 01:18:41 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:32:26 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:14:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:03 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm high
on life!

Umm, what were we talking about?


I don't know. I'm not here. I'm not trapped by an evil house that won't
let me go! I'm not! I'm not!


What have you done to offend Hugh Laurie?


Who Laurie?
Or is this part of a cunning plan?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Frank Mayhar"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 01:43:22 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:18:41 -0500, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:32:26 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:14:26 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:08:03 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:mtWdnXBQ-dxL63XZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@megapath.net...

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


Nuh uh! I gave up all my bad habits! I'm straight as an arrow! I'm high
on life!

Umm, what were we talking about?


I don't know. I'm not here. I'm not trapped by an evil house that won't
let me go! I'm not! I'm not!


What have you done to offend Hugh Laurie?

Who Laurie?
Or is this part of a cunning plan?

"House." The series. Hugh Laurie, from lots of stuff but perhaps best
known for the BBC series "A bit of Fry and Laurie."
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
.





User: "Therion Ware"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 12:30:43 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:51:02 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!

That's the home of the Six Million Dollar Man....
--
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
attrib: Pauline Réage. Cine To DVD? http://www.video2cd.co.uk
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 20 Aug 2006 01:19:54 PM
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:30:43 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:51:02 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:32:08 -0700, skyeyes wrote:

Neil Kelsey wrote:

Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?


You owe me a keyboard. I sure go through a lot of them reading this
newsgroup.


It's all Mark Bilbo's fault. He owns the EAC keyboard factory. ;->


I do not!

And it's also not true I have a major stock investment in the company!

For that matter, I'm not even here, I already left for Austin and...
and... you're all just hallucinating!


That's the home of the Six Million Dollar Man....

In all these years, this is the first time it's occurred to me that the
city was named for Steve Austin...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.





User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Godless Europe Gives Power To The Pedophiles 17 Aug 2006 01:11:23 AM
Conspiracy of Doves wrote:

Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-07-19td.html


Theodore Dalrymple

Power to the Pedophiles

The real danger of a Dutch court's loony decision

19 July 2006


Once upon a time, satire was a commentary on life, but nowadays it
seems as if life is a commentary on satire. How else are we to describe
the decision of the Dutch court to allow the Brotherly Love, Freedom,
and Diversity Party to contest the next elections?

The party was formed by pedophiles, and its political program consists
of lowering the age of consent to sexual intercourse from 16 to 12, the
legalization of the possession of child pornography and of sexual
intercourse with animals (provided, of course, that they are not
ill-treated and do not suffer as a result), as well as legal license to
broadcast pornography during the day and violent pornography at night.
It wants also to remove the taboo on pedophilia-a taboo that party
spokesmen claim has strengthened since the conviction of Marc Dutroux
in Belgium, who kidnapped six girls for sexual purposes and starved and
tortured four of them to death. Perhaps he wouldn't have felt obliged
to kill them, the party contends, if pedophilia had not had such a bad
name in the first place.

The problem with the court's ruling is not that it is likely to bring
the Brotherly Love Party to power. The party is most unlikely to
receive the 5 percent of the votes that it needs to attain
parliamentary representation. Nor is it likely to encourage many of the
Dutch to change their sexual practices, though it might in the long run
encourage experimentation precisely because of the breaking of the
taboo.

But the ruling opens even wider the dangerous gulf between the pays
légal and the pays réel. According to a survey, 82 percent of the
Dutch population want the party outlawed, and this huge majority cannot
consist entirely of straitlaced Calvinists. It is not as if Dutch
society were illiberal and offered no opportunity whatever for the
expression of sexual difference, or as if it prescribed an inflexible
sexual code. But even the liberal Dutch obviously feel that society has
to draw a line somewhere.

Courts do not exist merely to codify the prejudices of the population,
of course, however strong they might be. Yet when court rulings are too
radically disconnected from the moral sensibility of the population,
the law itself comes into disrepute and loses the legitimacy that is
nine tenths of its power. There is then a risk of a breakdown of law
and order, and of a violent political backlash. It is not surprising
that one of the leaders of the Brotherly Love Party recently had to
flee a trailer park where he was staying.

There is another nagging worry about the ruling in Holland's present
circumstances. If society cannot protect itself from the activities of
a handful of pedophiles whose ability to threaten it with violence is
minimal, how will it protect itself (and on what basis) against the
activities of the far more numerous, determined, and dangerous
Islamists? Will this ruling be seen in times to come as but a sentence
in the long Dutch suicide note?


Remind us all how old Mary was when god impregnated her. Around 13?

Or was that a myth......I really must............
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