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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Budikka"
Date: 15 Jan 2004 10:14:11 PM
Object: God's Dirty Little Secret
Discover magazine for February 2004 has a brief article on page 10
about some interesting mating habits in the wild kingdom (for
Valentine's Day - ahh!). One of these is Caenorhabditis elegans.
This is a species of nematode worm which had its genome mapped five
years ago (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/232608.stm), survived
the Columbia shuttle tragedy last year
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2992123.stm), and may even hold
the secret to eternal life
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3208983.stm)!
You may not think worms very smart, but this particular one can
apparently change gender to improve its sex life (just like some
humans, I guess!). They can sense bacteria populations in the
surrounding soil. Apparently if the numbers are high, this indicates
crowded worm conditions, and "...one of the female worm's X
chromosomes deactivates, and it becomes a male" (don't ask me how this
works!), giving it the opportunity to mate with lots of
hermaphrodites. The reverse condition (vis-a-vis bacterial
population) has them remain hermaphrodites, so they can at least mate
with themselves. This same condition in humans is called
masturbation....
What I want to know is what was the nematode population on the ark?
Genesis is very insistant about the "male and his mate" both in the
creation fable and the ark myth, so what happened? Creationists deny
evolution, so their own arguments can be used against them if they try
to claim the worm "varied" after leaving the ark to become what it is
today. If the worm was created as it is, then what's with all this
male-female crap in the creation story?
Are nematodes God's dirty little secret?
Budikka
.

User: "Bob Dog"

Title: Re: God's Dirty Little Secret 18 Jan 2004 01:30:56 AM
(Budikka) wrote in message news:<e1e30450.0401152014.3c5784c@posting.google.com>...

Discover magazine for February 2004 has a brief article on page 10
about some interesting mating habits in the wild kingdom (for
Valentine's Day - ahh!). One of these is Caenorhabditis elegans.

This is a species of nematode worm which had its genome mapped five
years ago (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/232608.stm), survived
the Columbia shuttle tragedy last year
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2992123.stm), and may even hold
the secret to eternal life
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3208983.stm)!

You may not think worms very smart, but this particular one can
apparently change gender to improve its sex life (just like some
humans, I guess!).

If only I could, dude, if only....
Bob Dog
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: God's Dirty Little Secret 16 Jan 2004 01:22:37 AM
In article <e1e30450.0401152014.3c5784c@posting.google.com>,
(Budikka) wrote:

Discover magazine for February 2004 has a brief article on page 10
about some interesting mating habits in the wild kingdom (for
Valentine's Day - ahh!). One of these is Caenorhabditis elegans.

This is a species of nematode worm which had its genome mapped five
years ago (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/232608.stm), survived
the Columbia shuttle tragedy last year
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2992123.stm), and may even hold
the secret to eternal life
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3208983.stm)!

You may not think worms very smart, but this particular one can
apparently change gender to improve its sex life (just like some
humans, I guess!). They can sense bacteria populations in the
surrounding soil. Apparently if the numbers are high, this indicates
crowded worm conditions, and "...one of the female worm's X
chromosomes deactivates, and it becomes a male" (don't ask me how this
works!), giving it the opportunity to mate with lots of
hermaphrodites. The reverse condition (vis-a-vis bacterial
population) has them remain hermaphrodites, so they can at least mate
with themselves. This same condition in humans is called
masturbation....

What I want to know is what was the nematode population on the ark?
Genesis is very insistant about the "male and his mate" both in the
creation fable and the ark myth, so what happened? Creationists deny
evolution, so their own arguments can be used against them if they try
to claim the worm "varied" after leaving the ark to become what it is
today. If the worm was created as it is, then what's with all this
male-female crap in the creation story?

Are nematodes God's dirty little secret?

Now that you mention the ark, I wonder who got to carry the Treponema
pallidum on board.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782

- Question authority. Now more than ever. -
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: God's Dirty Little Secret 17 Jan 2004 09:35:47 PM
On 15 Jan 2004 20:14:11 -0800,
(Budikka) posted
in alt.atheism:

What I want to know is what was the nematode population on the ark?
Genesis is very insistant about the "male and his mate" both in the
creation fable and the ark myth, so what happened? Creationists deny
evolution, so their own arguments can be used against them if they try
to claim the worm "varied" after leaving the ark to become what it is
today. If the worm was created as it is, then what's with all this
male-female crap in the creation story?

Remember, only one pair of each "kind" had to be taken on the ark.
Nematodes are part of the "kind" of "little thingies".
--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education and social
ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he
had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death."
-Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: God's Dirty Little Secret 18 Jan 2004 01:00:28 AM
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:anvj009juiqnk26npg51vq8rduglial9j5@Pern.rk...

On 15 Jan 2004 20:14:11 -0800,

(Budikka) posted
in alt.atheism:

What I want to know is what was the nematode population on the ark?
Genesis is very insistant about the "male and his mate" both in the
creation fable and the ark myth, so what happened? Creationists deny
evolution, so their own arguments can be used against them if they try
to claim the worm "varied" after leaving the ark to become what it is
today. If the worm was created as it is, then what's with all this
male-female crap in the creation story?


Remember, only one pair of each "kind" had to be taken on the ark.
Nematodes are part of the "kind" of "little thingies".

Surely you mean the "kind" "very little thingies". The "kind" "little
thingies"
would include "bugs". ;-)

--
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,

education and social

ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a

poor way if he

had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after

death."

-Albert Einstein
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net

.


User: "duke"

Title: Re: God's Dirty Little Secret 18 Jan 2004 09:40:49 AM
On 15 Jan 2004 20:14:11 -0800,
(Budikka) wrote:

What I want to know is what was the nematode population on the ark?

You live a very interesting life, don't you.

Creationists deny evolution

They do? Evolution is fully in line with creation. You're just trying to limit
your discussion to a very small group of people that choose to profess that the
bible is literally true in every word.
.


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