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"IKnowHimDoYou" |
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16 May 2004 02:07:23 PM |
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God's Language |
God's Language
As we uncover more and more of the miracle of DNA it appears as though we
are actually seeing God's own language. This, of course, will make no
sense to the unbeliever for they have no way of understanding the things
of God so we can dismiss any discussion of it with them.
To those who accept God's message found in the DNA of all living things it
is truely magnificent to examine all the pre-preperation that must go into
this miracle of design. Each pre-planned step is encrypted at exactly the
right place with just the right amount of information to bring about the
necessary action. Any errors and it won't work.
As an example look at the Monarch Butterfly. All the necessary
information is coded in the DNA contained in the egg and the sperm. The
time and arrangement of the catepillar, the chrysalis, the placement of
the attachments(it must change from the catapillar's first silk pad to the
chrysalis's without falling to the ground and parishing)are within seconds
of time and this all brings it to a beautiful butterfly. Each step is
pre-programmed and can brook no error or change or the creature will not
live. During the metamorphosis the caterpillar actually disappears through
death with only the heart surviving. All internal and external organs are
replaced to the prescribed DNA pattern to produce the new butterfly.
This is God's language that He has placed in all His living creation. It
does not change for change would only bring death and God is the God of
life not death.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
27 May 2004 07:51:38 AM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 12:07:23 -0700 in
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic, IKnowHimDoYou
(IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou)) said, directing the reply
to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic
God's Language
As we uncover more and more of the miracle of DNA it appears as though we
are actually seeing God's own language. This, of course, will make no
sense to the unbeliever for they have no way of understanding the things
of God so we can dismiss any discussion of it with them.
To those who accept God's message found in the DNA of all living things it
is truely magnificent to examine all the pre-preperation that must go into
this miracle of design. Each pre-planned step is encrypted at exactly the
right place with just the right amount of information to bring about the
necessary action. Any errors and it won't work.
As an example look at the Monarch Butterfly. All the necessary
information is coded in the DNA contained in the egg and the sperm. The
time and arrangement of the catepillar, the chrysalis, the placement of
the attachments(it must change from the catapillar's first silk pad to the
chrysalis's without falling to the ground and parishing)are within seconds
of time and this all brings it to a beautiful butterfly. Each step is
pre-programmed and can brook no error or change or the creature will not
live. During the metamorphosis the caterpillar actually disappears through
death with only the heart surviving. All internal and external organs are
replaced to the prescribed DNA pattern to produce the new butterfly.
This is God's language that He has placed in all His living creation. It
does not change for change would only bring death and God is the God of
life not death.
Actually, it's Enochian, as Dr. John Dee drew to our attention some
centuries ago.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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16 May 2004 02:40:11 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
As we uncover more and more of the miracle of DNA it appears as > though
we are actually seeing God's own language.
Life is a truly amazing phenomenon.
This is God's language that He has placed in all His living creation. >
It does not change for change would only bring death and God is
the God of life not death.
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that is to say
they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on small inherited
differences between individuals to produce the great diversity of life that
we see today.
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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17 May 2004 10:28:34 AM |
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In article <c88fud$2ri$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
As we uncover more and more of the miracle of DNA it appears as > though
we are actually seeing God's own language.
Life is a truly amazing phenomenon.
This is God's language that He has placed in all His living creation. >
It does not change for change would only bring death and God is
the God of life not death.
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that is to say
they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on small inherited
differences between individuals to produce the great diversity of life that
we see today.
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Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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17 May 2004 11:19:13 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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18 May 2004 11:04:24 AM |
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In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
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This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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20 May 2004 06:01:24 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion > for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant
cnnot revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can
kill the host can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
You wanted "evolution in action". Now say we have an allele that offers a
clear selective advantage. It would sweep the human population in a few
thousand generations, so we would be very lucky to catch it. However the
sickle cell allele offers an advantage whilst heterozygous, i.e. one copy
only, but a disadvantage when homozygous, or present in two copies. Plus the
advantage only applies in areas where malaria is common. So we can see the
forces of natural selection maintaining both normal and sickle alleles.
The sickle cell mutation is a point mutation (one amino acid is substituted
for another) so it is not really a loss or a gain of information. The
mutated hemoglobin is sticky, and tends to form chains, which causes the
sickling of the cell.
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| User: "John W" |
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18 May 2004 12:53:05 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
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| User: "Jez" |
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18 May 2004 01:29:31 PM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
Where's this 'Love' and 'Forgiveness' you Christians keep ranting about ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "jw" |
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24 May 2004 10:51:48 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:31 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
Christianity. As Christians, we are obligated to serve our country in
the military if called upon to do so. My friend was a military
engineer, and thus was called upon to work on the Manhattan Project in
a military capacity.
To have refused would likely have resulted in court martial.
He "did his job", back before there was such a milk toast "social
conscience" as yours.
When *I* was in the military, I was ordered on more than one occasion
to do things that were contrary to my beliefs, BECAUSE my non-coms
KNEW I was a Christian and that I'd be violating my beliefs.
I did as I was told because they were orders. My friend of the
Manhattan Project fame was of the same cloth. He "followed his
orders."
That's called "honor" and "duty", two concept that are OBVIOUSLY
foreign to you.
Where's this 'Love' and 'Forgiveness' you Christians keep ranting about ?
We are not judged by the world's standards (yours); we are judged by
God's standards. And we'll see who "remains standing" when He returns.
jw
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| User: "Jez" |
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25 May 2004 07:37:33 AM |
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"jw @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:31 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
Christianity.
'Proper' christianity !! LOL !!
You nut-cases have been arguing that one since Christianity begun !!
As Christians, we are obligated to serve our country in
the military if called upon to do so.
As Christians ? Didn't your idol say..turn the other cheek ?
My friend was a military
engineer, and thus was called upon to work on the Manhattan Project in
a military capacity.
As a 'Christian' he should have refused.
To have refused would likely have resulted in court martial.
Well, well, back to Nurenberg eh...
'We was only following orders !'
He "did his job", back before there was such a milk toast "social
conscience" as yours.
When *I* was in the military, I was ordered on more than one occasion
to do things that were contrary to my beliefs, BECAUSE my non-coms
KNEW I was a Christian and that I'd be violating my beliefs.
I did as I was told because they were orders. My friend of the
Manhattan Project fame was of the same cloth. He "followed his
orders."
That's called "honor" and "duty", two concept that are OBVIOUSLY
foreign to you.
How do you work that out ?
I don't support illegal invasions.....do you ?
Where's this 'Love' and 'Forgiveness' you Christians keep ranting about ?
We are not judged by the world's standards (yours); we are judged by
God's standards. And we'll see who "remains standing" when He returns.
Ahh I see....a totally fucking cop-out from any responsibility !
What a fucking suprise !
Typical 'Christian' hypocrisy !!
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "jw" |
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27 May 2004 07:32:22 AM |
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 13:37:33 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:31 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
Christianity.
'Proper' christianity !! LOL !!
You nut-cases have been arguing that one since Christianity begun !!
As an atheist, kindly do not presume to dictate proper Christianity.
jw
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28 May 2004 10:14:47 AM |
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"jw @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:3snbb01oj9eb6us9974hvt694qshlo0et4@4ax.com...
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
Christianity.
'Proper' christianity !! LOL !!
You nut-cases have been arguing that one since Christianity begun !!
As an atheist, kindly do not presume to dictate proper Christianity.
As an Atheist I have as much right to read History as you.
Now go away and find some facts.
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Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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27 May 2004 06:50:04 PM |
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 05:32:22 -0700, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You nut-cases have been arguing that one since Christianity begun !!
As an atheist, kindly do not presume to dictate proper Christianity.
As a bap-pisser, kindly do not presume to dictate anyone, BOY.
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27 May 2004 12:49:25 PM |
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 05:32:22 -0700, jw wrote:
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 13:37:33 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
"jw @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:31 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
Christianity.
'Proper' christianity !! LOL !!
You nut-cases have been arguing that one since Christianity begun !!
As an atheist, kindly do not presume to dictate proper Christianity.
Well, it is a demonstrated fact they know more about it than you ever will
be able to comprehend. So what's new with that. Oh, you are playing Hiram
holier than thou, still.
jw
john the whizzer, you do the p&m ac often enough.
walksalone who suspects jw will never really convince other xians that his
one. They may have to mumble the words, but it is one of those social
things & carry's no sense of conviction.
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25 May 2004 02:06:23 AM |
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On Mon, 24 May 2004 20:51:48 -0700, jw
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
Christianity. As Christians, we are obligated to serve our country in
the military if called upon to do so.
Only after 325 CE, ***** *****. Before that your church explicitly
forbade it.
My friend was a military
engineer, and thus was called upon to work on the Manhattan Project in
a military capacity.
Let me see: the Manhattan project. That was 1942-1945. For argument's
sake and since you are a lying piece of *****, make it 1941-1947. Your
friend was -supposedly- an army engineer. And we assume he wasn't in
charge of peeling potatoes. Let's put him in at 30 years, then. You
claim to be near 60 now.
So your friend must be around 90 years. At least. If he held any major
position, he would have been at least 45 or 50. So, today, about 125
years. You on the other hand were a toddler of 3 when the project
ENDED. And traveling in your father's brass balls when it started...
We know you love to lie, but at least TRY to make it a bit more
convincing.
To have refused would likely have resulted in court martial.
And he would have been released from that court. Just like fundies
today get off the hook. On the other hand, suppose your friend wasn't
a fundie, but an atheist, it was chopping rocks in Leavenworth for
him. Only believers (in any religion) got off the hook. Som things do
improve with age, I notice.
When *I* was in the military, I was ordered on more than one occasion
to do things that were contrary to my beliefs, BECAUSE my non-coms
KNEW I was a Christian and that I'd be violating my beliefs.
Had they known, they would not have you ordered. Or, far more likely:
they knew for what you are, and specifically order you to clean the
latrine with your toothbrush. Just to show you what a kind of ***** wipe
you are.
I did as I was told because they were orders. My friend of the
Manhattan Project fame was of the same cloth. He "followed his
orders."
Sorry, "following orders" doesn't cut it. People were hanged in
Neurenberg for following orders.
That's called "honor" and "duty", two concept that are OBVIOUSLY
foreign to you.
Yellow, is that your colour? Your regiment? The Chairborne Rangers?
Where's this 'Love' and 'Forgiveness' you Christians keep ranting about ?
We are not judged by the world's standards (yours); we are judged by
God's standards. And we'll see who "remains standing" when He returns.
Is that before or after Lord Voldemort returns?
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 19:29:31 +0100, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
john w replied
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By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
Wow ! A christian worked on the Bomb.......
How come such hypocrisy doesn't suprise me.
If you aren't a Christian, kindly do not presume to dictate proper
If you are not jw's variety of xian, a church of one [got your 503c charter
yet, not so easy is it] only he gets to say what xians can & can't do, just
ask it.
Christianity. As Christians, we are obligated to serve our country in
the military if called upon to do so. My friend was a military
Actually, xians were exempt from that until Constantine. But then, history
& knowledge are alien to you.
Xians can avoid military service with honor, but then, you don't know that
as well.
engineer, and thus was called upon to work on the Manhattan Project in
a military capacity.
So, he has went from a physicist to a military engineer. Next thing we know
he will be tutoring Einstein & Oppenheimer [sp both names?]
BTW, the military at that time had two types of engineers, which one was he
again. You only get one chance to get this one right, for pappy was one.
To have refused would likely have resulted in court martial.
He would have had to exist to face that possibility.
He "did his job", back before there was such a milk toast "social
conscience" as yours.
Social conscience, amazing, ethics are renamed by the fallible jw,
erroneously as usual in its case.
When *I* was in the military, I was ordered on more than one occasion
to do things that were contrary to my beliefs, BECAUSE my non-coms
KNEW I was a Christian and that I'd be violating my beliefs.
No, you were not. But then, everybody is always picking on you because you
are an xian, or a horse's *****. I bet on the horse's *****.
You are playing your usual everybody hates me because I am an xian cad, &
it down to one thread due to your abuse of it. If anyone actually wastes
any emotion on you, it is likely contempt, hate is to valuable.
I did as I was told because they were orders. My friend of the
Manhattan Project fame was of the same cloth. He "followed his
orders."
So did the guards at the death camps, your point. Or are you saying in your
case,& his, you were both to gutless to do the right thing & refuse any
illegal orders you receive. You could, & can, but you wouldn't, you lack
the spine. As well as you would have to be right.
That's called "honor" and "duty", two concept that are OBVIOUSLY
foreign to you.
Well now, that coming from someone that claimed the USAF created the
undesirable discharge just for him, so he could get an early out yet, why
is hat not surprising. Your sense of duty & honor seem to be on permanent
vacation, or AWOL.
Where's this 'Love' and 'Forgiveness' you Christians keep ranting about ?
We are not judged by the world's standards (yours); we are judged by
God's standards. And we'll see who "remains standing" when He returns.
No, that you will not, for among other things, were your gods to exist as
described, you have lied yourself into hell, as well as tried to speak for
them. BYE BYE.
jw
The continuous spreader of discontent I see. No surprise there.
walksalone who has long since realised that a post by jw is likely to be no
more useful than the beating of a stick against the sides of an empty
chamber pot.
--
The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the Day of
Resurrection will be a man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah
will make known to him His favours and he will recognize them.
The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did
but fight that it might be said [of you]: He is courageous. And so it was
said.
Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is cast
into Hell-fire.
The Hadith Qudsi 6
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19 May 2004 11:42:14 AM |
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In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time. Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in "peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
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| User: "Joe" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
19 May 2004 06:13:50 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-1905040942140001@pm3-18.kalama.com...
In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that >
is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do
manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell
(called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes
severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria.
So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in
areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant
cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the
host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time. Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in "peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
You see folks, science can't be relied on. My typing to the world is
imaginary, you are not reading this. Subsequently, any warm and fuzzy diety
that anyone can imagine has way more value in explaing all those ever so
complicated details of reality. If you really want to avoid delusion use the
scientific method which is OPEN TO CORRECTION or you can subscribe to a
mythological system of beliefs that was handed down by an uneducated,
superstitious band of crusading goat herders hallucinating from the effects
of eating moldy bread washed down with bad wine. A system that is NOT OPEN
TO CORRECTION. Oh whoa are fundies.
C'mon the gig is up.
Joe
Joe
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| User: "Alberich" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
19 May 2004 12:41:07 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 09:42:14 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time. Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in "peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
As a patent attorney, I would love to have the chance to review some
of your letters patent. Could you please refer me to the patent
number from one of them? I can find it through www.uspto.gov
afterwards.
Thank you!
Alberich
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| User: "bogie" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
19 May 2004 08:03:22 PM |
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"Alberich" <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:307na09514inph3v1ol9t683fab5h6avtp@4ax.com...
On Wed, 19 May 2004 09:42:14 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that
is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do
manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell
(called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes
severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to
malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in
areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant
cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the
host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time. Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in
"peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
As a patent attorney, I would love to have the chance to review some
of your letters patent. Could you please refer me to the patent
number from one of them? I can find it through www.uspto.gov
afterwards.
Thank you!
Alberich
[chuckle] Good luck getting a response out of him now.
bogie
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
19 May 2004 10:38:45 PM |
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bogie wrote:
"Alberich" <Alberich@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:307na09514inph3v1ol9t683fab5h6avtp@4ax.com...
On Wed, 19 May 2004 09:42:14 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that
is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do
manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell
(called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes
severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to
malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in
areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant
cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the
host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time. Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in
"peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
As a patent attorney, I would love to have the chance to review some
of your letters patent. Could you please refer me to the patent
number from one of them? I can find it through www.uspto.gov
afterwards.
Thank you!
Alberich
[chuckle] Good luck getting a response out of him now.
If all that is true...he's now just another old man on his knees all
day because he has nothing better to do.
Paul
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19 May 2004 08:54:55 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 09:42:14 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
jw replied
In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time.
I am amused by your reaction. I was not clear. Forgive me. I MEANT to
say, since you have not been in this group a long time (the 3 + years
I've been in here), you would likely not know that I have claimed a
number of times to have an old buddy... Whew!
My late friend worked on the Manhattan Project.
jw
Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in "peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
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| User: "jw" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
24 May 2004 10:45:01 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
On Wed, 19 May 2004 09:42:14 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
john w replied
In article <17jka0198jov7lq6lmfsn6k7ikrjt8nck7@4ax.com>, John W
<john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 18 May 2004 09:04:24 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <c8c2nh$r5n$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" < > wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic
for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
__________________________________________________________________
This is a very poor example you have chosen. The harmful mutaion for
sicklecell anemia is actually a loss of information. The recipiant cnnot
revert to the non mutated form and ultimatly the mutaion can kill the host
can it not?
So you have not proved "evolution in action" with this little ditty...
PTL for you, IKH! I envy my associates and friends who know science.
I am an artist and can not do even algebra.
However, I HAVE known a number of Christian scientists, and they have
assured me repeatedly that evolutionary theory is a mind-set, not true
science.
By the way, since you have probably not been around long enough to
know, one of my Christian scientists who believed in Special Creation
worked on the Manhattan Project. I am not at liberty to give his name,
but at this point, since he passed away a few years ago, I can say
that much.
jw
___________________________________________________
Sonny, I have been "around" for some time.
You misunderstood me. I meant "around" as in IN THIS GROUP.
I have been in here for over 3 years, and I know MANY of these jokers
and their way of thinking. THAT is all I meant.
jw
Even before WWII and the
Manhatten A bomb.I was an organic analytical chemist and a chemical
engineer for over 45 years working in R&D for some large industrial
companies as well as the US govm't. I hold several letters of patent and
have published many papers on scientific research and discoveries in "peer
reviewed" publications(in fact I was a "peer reviewer" myself).
When I read what is posted by these "kids" who think they actually know
something about science it makes me sad and angry at what the public
school system is producing and calling education when in fact it is just
indoctrination. The future appears very precarious with these nit wits
roaming about spouting slogans and mantras which they have not the
slightest understanding. Woe to us all...especially my grandchldren...
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18 May 2004 12:50:04 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 05:19:13 +0100, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > > is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic for one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
Now I'll give you an example of an experiment that has been done
HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of time; the same result occurs every time.
#1 take some dead organic material (tuna fish)
#2 put it in a can. ( a can of tuna fish)
#3 seal the can, removing all O2 and other gases.
this defines the organic material in a "closed" environment" like the
pre-life earth.
"Nothing in-nothing out" eliminates the chance for God to step in and
create life.
Now evolutionary theory says we need to apply a source of energy to
that can of tuna fish so life will grow.
Therefore, we put the can of tuna fish in the sunniest window in the
house, the sun roof. With 100 like it. Open the first can after a
month, NOTHING.
let the next one sit there for two months. Open the 2nd can. NOTHING>
Repeat the experiment monthly for 5 years. There will never be any
visible life in that can, even under a microscope.
Now obviously, there WILL be corruption in the can. but it will be a
LOWER life form, not a higher one than the fish, and the only reason
the corruption will be in the can is because, in the real world, there
are no perfect vacuums.
However, the next argument someone will raise (I've heard it 100
times) is, "Silly! punch a TINY hole in the can, and insert a
microbe. Wait 5 years, open the can, and you have life!"
True, but that ending proves Creation!
jw
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18 May 2004 05:21:59 PM |
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"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 05:19:13 +0100, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
However all sexually-reproducing species are polymorphic - that > >
is
to say they are not genetically identical. Evolution works on
small inherited differences between individuals to produce the
great diversity of life that we see today.
Show us this in action.
Then let us see you repeat it with measurements.
Evolution is a bit like astronomy - it is difficult to do manipulation
experiments. So unlike chemistry you cannot repeat a result.
However I can show you evolution "in action". Humans are polymorphic for
one
of the genes coding hemoglobin. A single amino acid change makes the
molecule sticky, which changes the shape of the red blood cell (called
erythrocyte in America). Now two copies of the sickling gene causes
severe
anemia, and is fatal. However one copy confers resistance to malaria. So
we
see that evolution is keeping the two genes in balance, but only in areas
where malaria is a significant cause of mortality.
There are many other examples.
Now I'll give you an example of an experiment that has been done
HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of time; the same result occurs every time.
#1 take some dead organic material (tuna fish)
#2 put it in a can. ( a can of tuna fish)
#3 seal the can, removing all O2 and other gases.
this defines the organic material in a "closed" environment" like the
pre-life earth.
"Nothing in-nothing out" eliminates the chance for God to step in and
create life.
Now evolutionary theory says we need to apply a source of energy to
that can of tuna fish so life will grow.
Therefore, we put the can of tuna fish in the sunniest window in the
house, the sun roof. With 100 like it. Open the first can after a
month, NOTHING.
let the next one sit there for two months. Open the 2nd can. NOTHING>
Repeat the experiment monthly for 5 years. There will never be any
visible life in that can, even under a microscope.
Now obviously, there WILL be corruption in the can. but it will be a
LOWER life form, not a higher one than the fish, and the only reason
the corruption will be in the can is because, in the real world, there
are no perfect vacuums.
However, the next argument someone will raise (I've heard it 100
times) is, "Silly! punch a TINY hole in the can, and insert a
microbe. Wait 5 years, open the can, and you have life!"
True, but that ending proves Creation!
You should review evolution and you will find it has nothing to say about
the origins of life. If one looks back on the fossil record one sees
decreasing sophisticaion the farther back in time one goes until they arive
at a time period where only single celled organisms existed. Now it doesn't
take a lot of faith to extrapolate a bit further to a time where the
precursers of life existed but have never been fossilized. Why should an
almighty creator start off with such mindless single celled organisms as an
expression of his creativity when he could have created man right out of the
gate? It doesn't make sense.
Joe
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| User: "walksalone" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
18 May 2004 05:52:07 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:21:59 -0500, Joe left the following consideration
behind, though with jw it is wasted.
No follow ups set, not sure where Joe is posting from, jw trolls from ARCB.
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 05:19:13 +0100, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
snip prior's as well as the parrot's tuna in a can argument, talk about
stupid.
True, but that ending proves Creation!
You should review evolution and you will find it has nothing to say about
the origins of life. If one looks back on the fossil record one sees
decreasing sophisticaion the farther back in time one goes until they arive
at a time period where only single celled organisms existed. Now it doesn't
take a lot of faith to extrapolate a bit further to a time where the
precursers of life existed but have never been fossilized. Why should an
almighty creator start off with such mindless single celled organisms as an
expression of his creativity when he could have created man right out of the
gate? It doesn't make sense.
Joe, it might save you a lot of minor irritation were you to do a web
search on jw, the person is amazingly ignorant & a jesus freak of the fundy
variety genuine born again type. I men, I can understand him not getting it
right the first time, but it claims to have brain damage now.
At any rate, you may find that jw is as ignorant as he thinks he pretends
to be.
Feel free to scan mine if you doubt I know of what I speak, I don't request
the no archive privilege.
Joe
walksalone who has observed the life form calling itself jw, & has to admit
that a box of rocks has more going for it, but then, so does the box.
--
"How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right
look like wrong, and wrong like right."
-Black Hawk (Sauk)
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| User: "jw" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
24 May 2004 11:07:26 PM |
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 22:52:07 GMT, walksalone
<walksalone@dastardly.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc> wrote:
john w replied
On Tue, 18 May 2004 17:21:59 -0500, Joe left the following consideration
behind, though with jw it is wasted.
No follow ups set, not sure where Joe is posting from, jw trolls from ARCB.
"John W" <john_weatherly47@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 18 May 2004 05:19:13 +0100, "Malcolm"
<malcolm@55bank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in
snip prior's as well as the parrot's tuna in a can argument, talk about
stupid.
True, but that ending proves Creation!
You should review evolution and you will find it has nothing to say about
the origins of life. If one looks back on the fossil record one sees
decreasing sophisticaion the farther back in time one goes until they arive
at a time period where only single celled organisms existed. Now it doesn't
take a lot of faith to extrapolate a bit further to a time where the
precursers of life existed but have never been fossilized. Why should an
almighty creator start off with such mindless single celled organisms as an
expression of his creativity when he could have created man right out of the
gate? It doesn't make sense.
Joe, it might save you a lot of minor irritation were you to do a web
search on jw, the person is amazingly ignorant & a jesus freak of the fundy
variety genuine born again type. I men, I can understand him not getting it
right the first time, but it claims to have brain damage now.
At any rate, you may find that jw is as ignorant as he thinks he pretends
to be.
Feel free to scan mine if you doubt I know of what I speak, I don't request
the no archive privilege.
No, but you are a low enough pond scum that you violate MY RIGHT to
not be archived a hundred times a day.
You think you are funny; I wonder how loudly you'll laugh from the
padded cell I have planned for you where you won't be able to play
with the internet anymore.
jw
Joe
walksalone who has observed the life form calling itself jw, & has to admit
that a box of rocks has more going for it, but then, so does the box.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: God's Language |
25 May 2004 09:24:32 AM |
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In article <tgh5b0p2iacms7qhr0a28ski5ufm6cqs84@4ax.com>, jw <john_weatherly47
says...
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No, but you are a low enough pond scum that you violate MY RIGHT to
not be archived a hundred times a day.
Sounds like you've gone off the deep end, porno boy.
You think you are funny; I wonder how loudly you'll laugh from the
padded cell I have planned for you where you won't be able to play
with the internet anymore.
More threats? How typical.
BTW, when are you going to have me arrested for what you claim are illegal
activities? Or was that more hot air on your part?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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26 May 2004 10:33:52 AM |
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 14:24:32 +0000 in episode
<AGIsc.4260$H4.238@www.newsranger.com> we saw our hero Robibnikoff
<nospam@newsranger.com>:
In article <tgh5b0p2iacms7qhr0a28ski5ufm6cqs84@4ax.com>, jw
<john_weatherly47 says...
snip
No, but you are a low enough pond scum that you violate MY RIGHT to not
be archived a hundred times a day.
Sounds like you've gone off the deep end, porno boy.
Really. There isn't any "right" to not be archived. It's a Google
*courtesy. Nothing more.
You think you are funny; I wonder how loudly you'll laugh from the padded
cell I have planned for you where you won't be able to play with the
internet anymore.
More threats? How typical.
BTW, when are you going to have me arrested for what you claim are illegal
activities? Or was that more hot air on your part?
He has a cell "planned" for you?
Okay, *now he's getting a bit spooky...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"I think it's the worst kept secret in Washington.
That everybody - everybody I talk to in Washington
has known and fully knows what [the neo-conservative]
agenda was and what they were trying to do."
[Retired General Anthony Zinni]
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26 May 2004 11:44:09 AM |
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In article <pan.2004.05.26.15.33.51.605046@hoo.com-amikchi>, Mark K. Bilbo
says...
On Tue, 25 May 2004 14:24:32 +0000 in episode
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