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"stoney" |
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07 Mar 2006 08:33:53 PM |
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Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
LONDON - U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended his country's
treatment of terror suspects against criticism from Europe and
elsewhere, telling a London audience Tuesday that the United States
abhors torture and respects the rights of detainees.
Gonzales also said the United States did not transport terrorism
suspects to nations where it was likely they could be tortured.
Human rights groups and other European critics have alleged that U.S.
planes may be using European airports and air space to send suspects to
nations that may torture them. They have also criticized the U.S. prison
camp in Guantanamo, and a U.N. report last month called for the facility
to be closed "without further delay" because it is effectively a torture
camp where prisoners have no access to justice.
The U.S. attorney general — speaking at the International Institute for
Strategic Studies think-tank in London — vehemently denied such charges,
but acknowledged that people might interpret the term "torture" in
different ways. The U.S. abides by its own definition, which he said was
the intentional infliction of severe mental or physical suffering.
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
On the subject of the Guantanamo Bay prison camp, Gonzales said
detainees were treated properly and afforded with extensive legal
protections.
The prison — opened January 2001 at the U.S. Naval base in southeast
Cuba — now holds about 490 men suspected of having links to al-Qaida and
the Taliban. Though many inmates have spent several years at the camp,
only a handful have been charged.
Gonzales defended their treatment and said the United States had to use
all available tools to fight terror, reiterating U.S. claims that the
detainees were "highly dangerous people" including terrorist trainers,
bomb makers and potential suicide bombers.
"We are aware of no other nation in history that has afforded procedural
protections like these to enemy combatants," he said.
Gonzales said the United States was continually reassessing the need for
the camp to remain open, and could consider closing it if circumstances
changed.
Disagreements over tactics
He acknowledged disagreements between the United States and Europe on
tactics in the fight against terror, but said it was critical that the
allies continued to work together. British Prime Minister Tony Blair
last week said Guantanamo was an "anomaly" that he hoped would be
closed.
Gonzales said U.S. law also forbids cruel, inhuman and degrading
treatment of detainees in the United States or abroad by military or
civilian personnel.
He declined to comment on alleged interrogation techniques at
Guantanamo, such as water boarding, during which the victim believes he
is about to drown, or the use of dogs to intimidate prisoners.
"If we went around this room, people would have different definitions of
what constitutes torture, depending on the circumstances," he said.
Copyright 2006 The Associated Press
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
08 Mar 2006 12:03:12 AM |
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In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
10 Mar 2006 02:21:26 PM |
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:03:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
11 Mar 2006 01:43:22 AM |
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In article <ctn3121fr0rk5ll94jc616apggtup8gt66@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:03:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
11 Mar 2006 04:32:58 PM |
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:43:22 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ctn3121fr0rk5ll94jc616apggtup8gt66@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:03:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
12 Mar 2006 01:25:11 AM |
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In article <qvj612tuivgd4dgbgdegf60ca1q6gklrce@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:43:22 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ctn3121fr0rk5ll94jc616apggtup8gt66@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:03:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
12 Mar 2006 01:57:58 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:25:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qvj612tuivgd4dgbgdegf60ca1q6gklrce@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:43:22 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ctn3121fr0rk5ll94jc616apggtup8gt66@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:03:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use," Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
13 Mar 2006 12:01:43 AM |
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In article <i9v812hfgbu296bch9nul08gh9vb7vu1ib@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:25:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qvj612tuivgd4dgbgdegf60ca1q6gklrce@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:43:22 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ctn3121fr0rk5ll94jc616apggtup8gt66@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:03:12 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for
torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use,"
Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe
or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of
human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
Not only that, but they all seem to be living in their little delusional
'bubble world' totally divorced from reality.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
13 Mar 2006 03:57:04 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:01:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <i9v812hfgbu296bch9nul08gh9vb7vu1ib@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for
torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use,"
Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in Europe
or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender of
human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
Not only that, but they all seem to be living in their little delusional
'bubble world' totally divorced from reality.
No 'seems' about it. :\
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
14 Mar 2006 12:21:53 AM |
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In article <skqb125ejt0tke1vsmgnarm6560iitef91@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:01:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <i9v812hfgbu296bch9nul08gh9vb7vu1ib@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for
torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use,"
Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances
from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did
not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than
not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity
pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in
Europe
or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender
of
human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there
has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of
law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight
face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
Not only that, but they all seem to be living in their little delusional
'bubble world' totally divorced from reality.
No 'seems' about it. :\
It's been a long time since ship left the shores of reality.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
14 Mar 2006 12:45:16 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:21:53 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <skqb125ejt0tke1vsmgnarm6560iitef91@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:01:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <i9v812hfgbu296bch9nul08gh9vb7vu1ib@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used for
torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use,"
Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances
from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and did
not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely than
not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity
pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in
Europe
or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great defender
of
human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that there
has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of
law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight
face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
Not only that, but they all seem to be living in their little delusional
'bubble world' totally divorced from reality.
No 'seems' about it. :\
It's been a long time since ship left the shores of reality.
Over two millenia.
/cue Heinlein's "Orphans of the Sky" iirc.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
14 Mar 2006 11:58:00 PM |
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In article <eo3e1292buiacu4krclgafg1p8vv8nrtq3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:21:53 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <skqb125ejt0tke1vsmgnarm6560iitef91@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:01:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <i9v812hfgbu296bch9nul08gh9vb7vu1ib@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used
for
torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use,"
Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances
from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and
did
not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely
than
not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity
pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in
Europe
or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great
defender
of
human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that
there
has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of
law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight
face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that
a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
Not only that, but they all seem to be living in their little delusional
'bubble world' totally divorced from reality.
No 'seems' about it. :\
It's been a long time since ship left the shores of reality.
Over two millenia.
/cue Heinlein's "Orphans of the Sky" iirc.
Good story! They could very well be drifting out in space somewhere
oblivious to what is really going on here.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| Title: Re: Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured [laughter] |
18 Mar 2006 06:22:15 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:58:00 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <eo3e1292buiacu4krclgafg1p8vv8nrtq3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:21:53 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <skqb125ejt0tke1vsmgnarm6560iitef91@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:01:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <i9v812hfgbu296bch9nul08gh9vb7vu1ib@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article <higs02hn9tmgssk92ggi21jra6j11pegra@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11711285/
Gonzales: Terror suspects are not tortured
In London, attorney general also denies other countries used
for
torture
Updated: 11:09 a.m. ET March 7, 2006
<snip>
"The U.S. abhors torture and categorically rejects its use,"
Gonzales
said, adding that where appropriate the U.S. sought assurances
from
foreign governments before transporting detainees there, and
did
not
transport anyone "to a country if we believe it more likely
than
not
that the individual would be tortured."
Nah. They're just subjected to the equivalent of 'fraternity
pranks'.
Right.
Defender of human rights
Gonzales also said the United States did not use airports in
Europe
or
anywhere else to move detainees for the purpose of torture.
"The United States has always been and remains a great
defender
of
human
rights and the rule of law," Gonzales said. "I regret that
there
has
been concern or confusion about our commitment to the rule of
law."
Lying hypocritical SOB! And I'll be he said that with a straight
face
too.
Sucker bet. Damned sociopath.
Fits right in with the rest of them.
I wonder how many are psychopaths? [besides shrub and cheney]
Rummy scares me too. Reminds me a bit of Dr. Strangelove. I think that
a
number of them like Rove and Delay are just obsessed with power and
getting more of it.
Terminal insecurity complexes really suck.
Not only that, but they all seem to be living in their little delusional
'bubble world' totally divorced from reality.
No 'seems' about it. :\
It's been a long time since ship left the shores of reality.
Over two millenia.
/cue Heinlein's "Orphans of the Sky" iirc.
Good story! They could very well be drifting out in space somewhere
oblivious to what is really going on here.
Good metaphor for the ***** House and Capitol Swill crowd.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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