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http://youtube.com/watch?v=-FKfwz_wKE4

Breaking news from the Sudan News Network: The ROP has
interrupted
this
genocide to demand the execution of the Teddy Bear teacher.

Whis that were true (the interuption that is)
But mind you: Those are not liberals!

True. Liberals are their enablers. Libs are the ones who want to
"talk"
to
these type of brutes and let them build nukes (and yes, there is no
difference between Amanutjob and the members of this mob or those
who
are
commiting the genocide in that country).

The mindlessness of such mobs keeps amazing me.
Would it be legal to perform euthenasia on them?
(they do seem kind of brain-death)

Euthanasia? I'd love to put them out of our misery!

Untrue. There is no reason to expect Sudan will have any nuclear
capability in the future. Here you go generalizing again.

You didn't read my parenthetical, did you? The Iranian leaders are
just
as
fanatical and basically no different from the barbarians in Sudan.

Also liiberals - as far as I know any, do not think it a good idea
that more countries have nuclear capability. Some however think it
might not be morallly justified if countries that already have
nulcear
capabitlity throw bombs on counties that still lack it, just because
they want things the bombers already have!

Those would be the idiotic ones who claim that such is the "moral"
justification of those who know better. You see, the Islamic
terrorists
we
are currently fighting, do not want the things we have. They want to
destroy the things that we have and they want to enslave us. Despite
that
fact, we are too restrained in our response to even consider "throwing
nukes" at them. If the table were turned, I hope that you're not so
stupid
as to imagine that they would exercise such restraint.

To be clear I do not think these people should die prematurely at
all
(I even suspect you do not either), but I do think they should be
taught their actions are totally immoral. Strangely enough the
children in Sudan act totally normal. I guess that means there is
hope.

Death to those in that mob would not be premature at all. They're
perfectly
ripe for killing. Funny thing is that you're the one who (jokingly)
brought
up the proposal. But of course, even your joke reveals something
about
you
and lefty thought. That is to say that you cannot justify killing
those
savages without pretending that it would be for their own good
(euthanasia).
My counter-joke was to tell you that killing them for our own good is
sufficient justification.-

I read your parenthetical, but I do not accept those kind of
generalizations.

You don't do you? Do you accept the fact that Iran sponsors Hezbollah?
Do
you accept the fact ath Iran puts homosexuals to death and that they also
punish and even kill htose who "insult" their (dog-faced, puss-filled)
prophet?

The moronic mob it Sudan is not the same as the Iranian government.

In many ways they're worse, because they not only threaten the lives of
the
few people they can get their hands on, but are the prime exporters of
those
whose mission in life is to subjagate or kill unbelievers.

Alas you do not seem to be willing to understand me, for if I mention
the morality (or even legality really) of violence against a
souvereign state for no other reason than that they are working
towards something the agressor already has,
you start talking about terrorists.

The first point ot make here is that your statement of the reason behind
their violence is entirely diverced form reality. They do not act to
acquire what we have. They act to destory it and us! Secondly, I do not
advocate violence to them, I simply say that should they present a threat
to
us I welcome their demise. The fact is that they are too impotent to
justify the repercussions of annihilating their sorry asses.

I have no idea how what al Qaida would do if it got it's hand on
nuclear bombs, but I am sure, any government with the will to survive
would not be as stupid as to throw a nuke at a country that could
retalliate a thousandfold.

I'm sure what AQ would do if they could. And I'm sure that if Iran
acquired
nukes and could furnish them in a non-traceable manner that they would
have
them.

BTW, it has been widely reported today that our intel sources believfe
that
Iran halted development of nuke weapons (although not Uranium enrichment)
in
2003. This is great news, in that it pushes back the time frame at which
we
can expect them to be able to have such weapons. PREDICTION: You will
try
your very best to ascribe this news along with the fact that Libya
divested
itself of it's WMD programs at the same time frame to mere coincicence,
and
that you will mightily attempt to avoid the clear and quite obvious
conclusion that certain US actions by the US at that time may have had
any
hand in bringing this about.

My remark about Euthanasia was mainly cast because of my unability to
understand the thinking of those fools. It would be explained if the
were brain-death!

By the way your thinking is just marginally better: preventive nuking
of muslims is almost as stupid as capital punishment for letting
children express their love for muhammed, but at least there is some
(macabre) logic about it.

Once again, I advocated no such thing. I simply pointed out that I would
consider their fate with the utmost disregard should they acquire the
abilities which would make such action necessary.- Tekst uit
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OK this is an intelligent post from you.

Whether or not Iran, Libya (and Saddam for that matter) refrained from
WMD's because of the attitude of the USA can of course not be proven.
But you suggestion seems not unlikely.

If behaviorism would apply to countries by the way, the half-hearted
support the US gets from other countries would actually help I
suppose.
(the mouse pushes more fiercly if he only gets rewarded now and then)

The main difference between us, seems to be that I want to be
compassionate about even my "enemies", whereas you do not feel any
such desire. Well of course I am a liberal too, but that is just a
logical effect of wanting to be compassionate.

See you