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"*nemo*" |
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06 Sep 2007 03:10:15 AM |
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Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 05:42:16 AM |
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*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
Oh, this is too good.
First, Falwell, now Kennedy.
Bets on who's next, Robertson or Hagee. One, quite old, the other
extremely fat.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 06:34:12 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:42:16 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@gmail.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
Oh, this is too good.
First, Falwell, now Kennedy.
Bets on who's next, Robertson or Hagee. One, quite old, the other
extremely fat.
A religious Dead Pool?
Liz #658 BAAWA
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 09:29:01 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:42:16 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@gmail.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
First, Falwell, now Kennedy.
Bets on who's next, Robertson or Hagee. One, quite old, the other
extremely fat.
"God's" aim is off - we lost Pavarotti instead of garbage.
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 03:29:59 AM |
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*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "LC" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 08:39:02 AM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:14aybrk4ky4gg$.xkv4ertqm2s6.dlg@40tude.net...
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
A nice dream to be sure, but *far* too much money is at stake to just let
the sheep wander away.
LC~ Suckers. Born. Every. Minute.
"Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is none
more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant
to reason, and more contradictory in itself, than this thing called
Christianity. Too absurd for belief, too impossible to convince, and too
inconsistent for practice, it renders the heart torpid, or produces only
atheists and fanatics. As an engine of power, it serves the purpose of
despotism; and as a means of wealth, the avarice of priests; but so far
as respects the good of man in general, it leads to nothing here or
hereafter."~ Thomas Paine
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 04:23:36 AM |
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On Sep 6, 9:29 am, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR200...
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
As long as there are sheep to be fleeced there will be predators out
to fleece them. It's the millions of willing victims that allow these
parasites to thrive. Maybe better education is the only answer.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
07 Sep 2007 05:35:24 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:23:36 -0700, Nosterill <fladgate@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:29 am, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR200...
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
As long as there are sheep to be fleeced there will be predators out
to fleece them. It's the millions of willing victims that allow these
parasites to thrive. Maybe better education is the only answer.
Education is innoculation.
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| User: "Tink" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
09 Sep 2007 04:04:17 PM |
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On 2007-09-07 07:05:24 -0400, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> said:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:23:36 -0700, Nosterill <fladgate@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:29 am, "L. Raymond" <badaddr...@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR200...
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
As long as there are sheep to be fleeced there will be predators out
to fleece them. It's the millions of willing victims that allow these
parasites to thrive. Maybe better education is the only answer.
Education is innoculation.
Sadly. no it isn't. Truth, fact and logic are woefully inadequate
tools when dealing with matters of religion and belief.
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Skydivers don't knock on death's door; they ring the bell and run
away... It really pisses him off.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 06:03:25 PM |
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:29:59 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
Amen.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
28 Sep 2007 12:33:34 PM |
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 03:29:59 -0500, "L. Raymond"
<badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090500789.html
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
If all these various hateful ministries would just disappear once their
founders die, and no others rise to replace them, then the world will
truly be a better place
Sadly, that's not in the theist confidence gameplan.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: The world has one less fundy liar in it |
06 Sep 2007 08:23:29 AM |
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In article <13dvdf97nuo0sfa@corp.supernews.com>,
nemo0037@earthlink.diespam.com says...
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
Hopefully, some of his ridiculous ideology may die with him. Even
fundies found guys like him to be an embarrassment. As to the "good
riddance to bad rubbish" bit, I suspect that rubbish would feel insulted
at the comparison. Perhaps we should ask a piece of rubbish like dookie
about it.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "V" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
22 Sep 2007 08:52:15 AM |
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On Sep 6, 4:10?am, *nemo* <nemo0...@earthlink.diespam.com> wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR200...
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
Now if only Pat Robertson would kick it as well.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
How do you lose anger Nemo?
This is what separates the enlightened mind from the unenlightened
mind and why enlightenment can't be forced on someone.
Can you force someone to lose the anger if they are not ready to?
Tired of being angry?
Just relinquish control and anger will be diminished.
Anger and control go hand in hand.
Some of these tendencies come from habit other times they stem from
ignorance. Either way we can change our habits or extinguish ignorance
with knowledge, mindfulness and practice.
The first step is realization that something is disturbing our peace.
And for many this realization can come about through writing or
journaling.
Putting our complaints down on pen and paper first crystallizes in our
heads what needs to be changed or accepted in our lives.
Getting it all out and putting it all down is the first start of this
recognition process that leads us to toxic rage recovery Kater.
Without this recognition, that we are sick or something is wrong in
our lives, we cannot develop the desire for change.
We don't even know what is wrong to change!
Writing your complaints down is the first start to making the roadmap
for restructuring your life.
Restructuring our lives is very important if we want to get peace from
our rage addiction.
Those things that cannot be restructured need to be accepted.
Either way we can find peace -- by change or acceptance.
When you write, it uses a different part of the brain that mere
speaking uses and I seem to get amazing results from writing as
compared to just talking.
Writing helps crystallize your thoughts, it shares recovery with other
addicts and they can know they are not alone.
Just remember what the Buddhists say in the eightfold path about right
actions.
We have to use the right thoughts, the right actions and take the
right direction with recovery.
Just spinning our wheels in the wrong direction does little for
recovery, so write about things that matter to you and your recovery.
On page 90 of the AA's 12 and 12 the writers mention how the addict
cannot afford "justifiable anger" and it should be left to those
better qualified to handle it.
With reference to this statement -- it is gospel - there is no
argument here. We can always settle such disputes by looking deeply
into the person, place, thing or emotion in question and ask if it
helps or hurts our practice?
Does having anger and hatred in our hearts ever increase our peace or
serenity or does it diminish it?
Even is we are justified, so called, in having this emotion does it
suddenly become a peace generator in our life with this newfound
license to hate or is it still a peace buster whether we have an
excuse or not?
The path is clear about which direction to take and all that remains
is the release of the anger.
Some people get confused with this anger question and beat themselves
for still experiencing this emotion thinking they should be a
"perfectly spiritual individual" and above such lowly emotions as
getting angry.
They think they can perfect their lives and wipe out natural law with
one blow called spirituality.
Due to the diversity of thought we humans are capable of we have all
sorts of thoughts and emotions that pop up in our heads. Without this
ability we could not think as we do.
But, just because thoughts or emotions pop up in our heads the choice
is ours alone whether we foster and build on any particular thought or
emotion.
Spirituality does not eliminate such thoughts - it just helps decide
what we do with them.
Anger is also part of our natural make up. Anger is an emotions that
can serve us when we need to summon it up in a life or death situation
such as self defense or when our species had to hunt big game for a
living - hunt with spears, clubs and rocks.
Even if we are dealing with life or death self defense and must
generate anger, the byproducts is still a disruption of our peace as
we recover from the circumstance as a shaking and rattled mess.
So, even if anger is justified, so called, it does not magically
become a peace promoter in our lives instead of a peace destroyer.
Anger is also an important emotion for self preservation in less
dangerous circumstances than big game hunts, for without feeling anger
we wound not seek out change - changing our environment that might be
an unhealthy one for us.
So, we should never regret feeling anger, but just as anger and
excretion are two naturally occurring parts of being a human, we
should let them serve us instead of we being enslaved to them.
Anger comes in two-forms: Nature Based Anger and Toxic Based Anger
Always remember, anger is a nature given tool of defense and living
right. But it takes humans to tun this healthy tool into an unhealthy,
toxic tool of destruction.
Besides justified anger, there are HUNDREDS of other things that one
cannot "afford" in their life is they desire inner peace.
Sure, we can all white knuckle it and just scrape by with, ready to
slip off at a moments notice if we want to put our desires before our
practice.
But, learning what fits and what does not fit comfortably in our life
is the ongoing battle we all have to undertake if we want peace.
In short, we have to ask if a peace based life can "afford" the many
things we come into daily contact with. And the measure of our success
will be determined by how well we live within our comfortable means by
asking this "affordability" question.
Before I could find lasting and peaceful recovery I had to learn to
refuse many areas of my old life that did not serve me any longer.
This is how I coined the phrase, "You are not recovering until your
start refusing...refusing the old sick ways that got you here."
The 3 paths that addiction (Yes, anger is addictive) can take are
these: the addiction can be increased, it can be decreased or can be
frozen.
These 3 paths shows us which direction we are headed in with our
recovery at any given moment.
Clarity about affordability comes from a continual orientation of
putting our rage recovery programs wants first and our personal wants
or desires second and by asking the question of how any person, place,
thing or activity will affect my rage recovery program?
Once the rage addict has this affordability mindset in place they can
direct their thoughts towards the cultivation of recovery, so that
whatever action they are engaged in - it is always evaluated from this
perspective and they can find great success from applying this single
minded dedication to change.
Suddenly they find their recovery practice and life can become as one
and asking such questions becomes second nature for them.
But again, this is the textbook or idealistic way of looking at this
affordability question, we need practical application in the real
world.
Many of us have families and jobs and to be a total renunciate of all
things disruptive to our peace and our recovery program is not always
possible or desirable when looking at the big picture.
I often hear excuses from other rage addicts saying they can't stop
this or that because of their family, jobs or other obligations, so we
need to balance these two extremes of being a total renunciate with
the other extreme of being paralyzed and not changing a thing because
of excuses and justification.
We have to work towards a balance if we want peace and just like
exercise, we always seem to find reasons for not doing what we know is
right.
The way I work it is to be aware of what is disruptive to my peace and
to change it if possible as a first choice or work on accepting it as
the serenity prayer says as a second choice.
I try to stay away from justification or looking for excuses to
continue on the wrong path.
I either change things or work on accepting them. If we base our
decisions of proven principles of recovery it helps takes us out of
the decision making process and rests our recovery on solid foundation
instead of excuses.
I don't beat myself for not being able to perform well in every given
circumstance under the sun.
I know that I do not mesh well with everything and everybody in life
and I have certain limits and abilities.
To do otherwise would say that we have the right to be perfect and
violate our make up and that we have no limits or boundaries to govern
us and are godlike.
The 12 step programs reminds us to work within our limits by "staying
right size" on pages 122-125, so it tells me right there I am not
immune to all things destructive just because I work the 12 steps.
In SCA they have a tool called abstention. They abstain the best way
they can from people places or things they have found to be
detrimental to their recovery program efforts from past experience
with them.
My recovery success is based a lot on abstaining from people, places
and things that do not mesh well with me and if I cannot avoid them,
then I work to make the unavoidable fit better by changing things on
my end.
Yes, we cannot change others, but we do usually have control of
ourselves and how we participate in dealing with others.
Even though we cannot completely change or wipe our many problem areas
in our life we can usually change *some* aspects of most problems to
make them more bearable.
So, I am always looking for small changes to make in the right
direction and this recovery orientation towards the direction of
change helps by giving hope of possible larger future change as well.
In addition you can work practice a Buddhist meditation on the 4
Immeasurables aka Divine States of Dwelling. Radiate the 4
Immeasurables in all 4 directions as well, as above and below you so
it emanates from your being throughout the universe.
Meditate on:
Limitless Compassion for all suffering beings.
Limitless Joy for over the salvation of others from suffering
Limitless Peace for all beings whether friend or enemy
Limitless Kindness towards all sentient beings.
But bottom line is either you must change from the inside out - or
life will change you 'its way' from the outside in and this tends to
rot your insides with the byproducts that a life of toxic anger
produces.
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
AA#2
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
06 Sep 2007 04:38:19 AM |
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On Sep 6, 9:10 am, *nemo* <nemo0...@earthlink.diespam.com> wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR200...
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
I've just been looking around the coral ridge website and got a
"suspicious website" phishing warning on their "share a story" page.
Why am I not surprised?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Good riddance to BAD rubbish |
07 Sep 2007 05:36:20 AM |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 02:38:19 -0700, Nosterill <fladgate@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:10 am, *nemo* <nemo0...@earthlink.diespam.com> wrote:
D. James Kennedy, the ***** who filmed the installation of the 10
Commandments slab in the Alabama Supreme Court, and ran decades of TV
lie-fests out of his Coral Ridge megachurch, is dead.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR200...
There's no hell hot enough for this lying *****, if you ask me...
I've just been looking around the coral ridge website and got a
"suspicious website" phishing warning on their "share a story" page.
Why am I not surprised?
It is the "Xtianity" virus.
It has been around for 2000 years or so.
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