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"Elroy Willis" |
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03 Mar 2004 08:18:23 AM |
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Google |
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Sara Brum" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 10:06:29 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:c3qb401dg25hcpfk8vsdugjrs7rbqrisca@4ax.com...
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
I've been using Google almost exclusively for several years now, and have
never had a pop-up window from them.
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 11:41:38 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:c3qb401dg25hcpfk8vsdugjrs7rbqrisca@4ax.com...
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
No pop-up windows on google.
http://www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html
You've got scumware on your computer.
Open command prompt
Type:
tasklist /svc > foobar.txt
Press return
Then send the contents of foobar.txt (or the file itself) to an appropriate
techie person and ask what is suspicious.
If you want to send it to me:
At cam.ac.uk, ah402 is. Welcome to e-mail you are.
Alun Harford
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| User: "Dr Dave W" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 09:16:57 AM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in
news:c3qb401dg25hcpfk8vsdugjrs7rbqrisca@4ax.com:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Get Mozilla. And, as Fred mentioned spyware, get "Spybot-search and
destroy".
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Dave W a.a.#1967
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| User: "Maverick" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 12:15:07 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in
news:c3qb401dg25hcpfk8vsdugjrs7rbqrisca@4ax.com:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Popup ads appear often because you have some adware/spyware, or that you're
visiting a webpage plagued by popups. Get rid of spyware and adware by
running Ad-aware (there are others as well), and to get rid of the other
popups, use some popupkiller (have no experience of those) or use a browser
where you can block unrequested popups. I use Mozilla Firebird and it's
doing an excellent job. Aside from that, I haven't noticed any increase in
popups even when I use Internet Explorer and Google.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 08:32:04 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Are you sure you don't have some spyware/adware running on your machine?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 10:44:09 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Are you sure you don't have some spyware/adware running on your machine?
I dunno. Are you saying you didn't notice some changes lately?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 11:42:08 AM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Are you sure you don't have some spyware/adware running on your machine?
I dunno. Are you saying you didn't notice some changes lately?
Not on Google.
http://www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html
"Google does not allow pop-up ads of any kind on our site."
They go on to recommend looking for adware programs etc.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
04 Mar 2004 07:33:02 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Elroy Willis wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Are you sure you don't have some spyware/adware running on
your machine?
I dunno. Are you saying you didn't notice some changes lately?
Not on Google.
http://www.google.com/help/nopopupads.html
"Google does not allow pop-up ads of any kind on our site."
They go on to recommend looking for adware programs etc.
I dunno what it was, but it's gone now. When I first started having
the problem, I thought "Oh man, Google has finally caved into the
advertising game."
I think it must've been some type of temporary spyware or adware
that got stuck into my browser somehow. I have my home page set
to Google, and when I clicked home one time, there was a new Google
screen, which had an ad for an ad-free Google interface/taskbar.
Whatever it was, it had me fooled into thinking Google had changed,
and that Google was providing a new interface to get rid of the popups
that were recently added BY THEM. "Very suspicious," I thought.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 05:46:27 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:18:23 GMT the ET form known as Elroy
Willis<elo@airmail.net> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of
deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
I have not noticed. But I use Proxomitron to cut out that sort of
rubbish. It makes the local host PC a customizable proxy through which
then filters pages as they download. It speeds up connections
considerably.
http://proxomitron.cjb.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 06:49:26 PM |
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:18:23 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Those who suggest spyware/adware are probably right.
However, when I recently did an update to Windows XP (not a critical
one) it turned on Windows Messenger. I used a utility I have to turn
it right back off, so I don't know if that's what's happening to you.
But I'm told that it is an avenue for spam and other unwanted crap.
You can get this utility here:
http://grc.com/stm/shootthemessenger.htm
It's quick and it works.
drift
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 07:26:14 PM |
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<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
news:tvuc40p9cv1nbdghf0004g48ghbardella@4ax.com...
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:18:23 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Those who suggest spyware/adware are probably right.
However, when I recently did an update to Windows XP (not a critical
one) it turned on Windows Messenger. I used a utility I have to turn
it right back off, so I don't know if that's what's happening to you.
But I'm told that it is an avenue for spam and other unwanted crap.
You're told incorrecty.
There *was* a buffer overflow vulnerability in an old version that means
that people can send you messages with it, but that must be about a year
old.
Windows Update fixes the vulnerability (and has done for about a year) and
so removes the workaround.
Some people rely on utilities that run using this service, and so disabling
it could cause unstability for some users, and generally do bad stuff (in
particular - to people running machines on networks where they need to be
sent information about server avaliability)
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Alun Harford
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
04 Mar 2004 06:48:57 PM |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 01:26:14 -0000, "Alun Harford"
<alunharford@yahoo.com> wrote:
<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
news:tvuc40p9cv1nbdghf0004g48ghbardella@4ax.com...
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 14:18:23 GMT, Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net>
wrote:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
Those who suggest spyware/adware are probably right.
However, when I recently did an update to Windows XP (not a critical
one) it turned on Windows Messenger. I used a utility I have to turn
it right back off, so I don't know if that's what's happening to you.
But I'm told that it is an avenue for spam and other unwanted crap.
You're told incorrecty.
There *was* a buffer overflow vulnerability in an old version that means
that people can send you messages with it, but that must be about a year
old.
Windows Update fixes the vulnerability (and has done for about a year) and
so removes the workaround.
Some people rely on utilities that run using this service, and so disabling
it could cause unstability for some users, and generally do bad stuff (in
particular - to people running machines on networks where they need to be
sent information about server avaliability)
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Alun Harford
Just a suggestion - offered FWIW. Thanks for the clarification.
After the update mentioned above, my computer told me I suddenly
needed messenger for things I have been using all this time, and they
still work with it disabled.
IOW, didn't need it then, don't need it now, and I only run what I
need.
I know there are different messengers and I don't know the difference
between them since I don't use them. Those that do use them should
know the capabilities and vulnerabilities, though.
I once got a pop-up during a system backup because I shut down other
apps, including my firewall. Now I just everything as is and do the
backup and it works.
Maybe I pay too much attention to security, that's because I know what
the potential of interconnected computers is, but I keep my computer
working for me, the one who bought it, not for market research, not
for trojans, not for spammers or anyone else that I don't want to
support. And it never crashes. It runs with pep and energy, ardor and
zeal.
Keep the cybercondoms on and fresh.
drift
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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04 Mar 2004 11:16:52 PM |
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wrote:
Maybe I pay too much attention to security, that's because I know what
the potential of interconnected computers is, but I keep my computer
working for me, the one who bought it, not for market research, not
for trojans, not for spammers or anyone else that I don't want to
support. And it never crashes. It runs with pep and energy, ardor and
zeal.
Windows? Never crashes? wow...I'm impressed.
I recently put win2k on mine, and it is better than 98 that
I had on it before, after I figured out how to get it set up
right (including disabling Messenger after getting some pop
up spam through it). But it has crashed a couple times when
I was playing solitaire while Mozilla was loading a page.
Maybe a Mozilla bug? it's open source, constantly changing,
so that's likely. Still, it did crash....
--
Jim
Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2
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| User: "" |
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05 Mar 2004 07:48:45 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 05:16:52 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
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drift@lost.net wrote:
Maybe I pay too much attention to security, that's because I know what
the potential of interconnected computers is, but I keep my computer
working for me, the one who bought it, not for market research, not
for trojans, not for spammers or anyone else that I don't want to
support. And it never crashes. It runs with pep and energy, ardor and
zeal.
Windows? Never crashes? wow...I'm impressed.
I recently put win2k on mine, and it is better than 98 that
I had on it before, after I figured out how to get it set up
right (including disabling Messenger after getting some pop
up spam through it). But it has crashed a couple times when
I was playing solitaire while Mozilla was loading a page.
Maybe a Mozilla bug? it's open source, constantly changing,
so that's likely. Still, it did crash....
Oh, I've had to restart once or twice. But not from the BSD. Well,
maybe once, because I got lax. I went thru a learning curve via
several machines before I attained near perfection. No system will
never crash, get used to that. Unix crashes, altho rarely, and usually
to a mis-application. (I work a lot with unix)
And, I don't know why, but games always seem to have a bad effect - on
all computers I've tried them in. Fortunately for me, I don't use my
computer for games: I want a physical machine with a physical ball
that you can tilt, a board to throw darts at, or a table that involves
a cue ball that responds physically to how it's hit and how well the
cue is chalked. I will not compete against nanoseconds. It's not a
sport. Not to me, anyway.
Cheers!
drift
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| User: "" |
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05 Mar 2004 07:35:38 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 05:16:52 GMT, J Forbes <jforbspam@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
drift@lost.net wrote:
Maybe I pay too much attention to security, that's because I know what
the potential of interconnected computers is, but I keep my computer
working for me, the one who bought it, not for market research, not
for trojans, not for spammers or anyone else that I don't want to
support. And it never crashes. It runs with pep and energy, ardor and
zeal.
Windows? Never crashes? wow...I'm impressed.
I recently put win2k on mine, and it is better than 98 that
I had on it before, after I figured out how to get it set up
right (including disabling Messenger after getting some pop
up spam through it). But it has crashed a couple times when
I was playing solitaire while Mozilla was loading a page.
Maybe a Mozilla bug? it's open source, constantly changing,
so that's likely. Still, it did crash....
You just gotta keep the system clean. Uninstall what you are going to
replace, use a utility that checks the registry against the rest of
the file system, (Nortons Windoctor works for me). Uninstalling from
control panel just hides most apps. You have to search for and delete
the folder it was installed in, run Nortons, and verify it's still
gone. If not, you need to do the forbidden regedit, and delete every
key and/or entry that you *know applies to what you uninstalled. Then
run Nortons, again and again until it comes up clean. And search again
to verify that what you uninstalled is *really gone*. Sounds like a
lot but it's worth a little time now to prevent big wastes of time
later.
Naturally make a restore point first, and if you have a total backup
utility like Ghost or Drive image, do that first. And of course,
always do chkdisk (check drive for errors) *before you do anything to
the system anytime..
In short, before you uninstall and or install, run the utilities
before to make sure it's clean, run the utilities each step, and run
the utilities after to make sure it's clean when you are done.
And keep the cybercondoms updated and running at all times. You have
to ask me what works for me and I'll tell. I offered the info once for
free and got reported for spamming. So, you gotta ask.
drift
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Google |
03 Mar 2004 11:51:12 AM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Elroy Willis:
Anyone else been keeping an eye on Google lately?
I used to use it almost exclusively, but then using it seemed to spawn
pop up ads everywhere, and I notice they added some "spam free or
popup free" interface or toolbar, which now seems to be gone when I
look at the main page again.
What happened?
I use Norton Internet Security with the ad killer turned on. Google is
very plain and simple, I haven't noticed any ads.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Plonked by Angelicusrex 2/24/04
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The fool says in his heart, "There is no God".
The wise man announces it to the world.
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