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Religions > Atheism |
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"magilla" |
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29 Jun 2005 01:59:29 PM |
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Google groups down? |
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have too
much free speech?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 10:24:27 PM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote
in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to learn
from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Flip-flopping is what its called when positions change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything.
Learning from experience actually requires experience.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 11:27:02 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote
in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to learn
from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Flip-flopping is what its called when positions change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything.
Learning from experience actually requires experience.
So, the "Kerry flip-flopping" claim that the Right did was inaccurate?
I agree.
By the way, "flip-flopping" does *not* mean "to change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything." To suggest that it does is disingenuous to the point
of lying.
A "flip-flop" is simply a sudden change of policy; a decision to reverse
an earlier decision. The 21st Amendment to the Constitution is a
"flip-flop." It's a reversal of an earlier decision (18th Amendment).
Got anything else?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
30 Jun 2005 08:46:12 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:qwKwe.8818$rE6.8784@trnddc06:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote
in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Flip-flopping is what its called when positions change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything.
Learning from experience actually requires experience.
So, the "Kerry flip-flopping" claim that the Right did was inaccurate?
I agree.
Kerry flipped every time he addressed a different audience.
By the way, "flip-flopping" does *not* mean "to change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything." To suggest that it does is disingenuous to the
point of lying.
No, it makes the distinction between flipping because it sounds good to
your audience and making a reasoned decision to change policy. A flip-
flop is done for pure political opportunism.
A "flip-flop" is simply a sudden change of policy; a decision to
reverse an earlier decision. The 21st Amendment to the Constitution
is a "flip-flop." It's a reversal of an earlier decision (18th
Amendment).
I disagree. The 21st Amendment was done to correct the obvious mistake
of the 18th.
Got anything else?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
30 Jun 2005 08:52:22 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:qwKwe.8818$rE6.8784@trnddc06:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote
in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Flip-flopping is what its called when positions change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything.
Learning from experience actually requires experience.
So, the "Kerry flip-flopping" claim that the Right did was inaccurate?
I agree.
Kerry flipped every time he addressed a different audience.
Cite?
By the way, "flip-flopping" does *not* mean "to change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything." To suggest that it does is disingenuous to the
point of lying.
No, it makes the distinction between flipping because it sounds good to
your audience and making a reasoned decision to change policy. A flip-
flop is done for pure political opportunism.
Incorrect. "Flip-flopping" is only a change of position. It does not
denote political opportunism. That is a lie made up by the Right. And
you bought it, hook, line and sinker.
A "flip-flop" is simply a sudden change of policy; a decision to
reverse an earlier decision. The 21st Amendment to the Constitution
is a "flip-flop." It's a reversal of an earlier decision (18th
Amendment).
I disagree. The 21st Amendment was done to correct the obvious mistake
of the 18th.
A flip-flop of the earlier decision.
Got anything else?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
30 Jun 2005 10:06:51 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:qOSwe.13673$gm6.3427@trnddc05:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:qwKwe.8818$rE6.8784@trnddc06:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable)
wrote in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article
<1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>, Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W.
Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web
site that lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Flip-flopping is what its called when positions change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything.
Learning from experience actually requires experience.
So, the "Kerry flip-flopping" claim that the Right did was
inaccurate? I agree.
Kerry flipped every time he addressed a different audience.
Cite?
http://www.sportsmenforkerry.com/flipflop.htm
By the way, "flip-flopping" does *not* mean "to change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything." To suggest that it does is disingenuous to the
point of lying.
No, it makes the distinction between flipping because it sounds good
to your audience and making a reasoned decision to change policy. A
flip- flop is done for pure political opportunism.
Incorrect. "Flip-flopping" is only a change of position. It does not
denote political opportunism. That is a lie made up by the Right. And
you bought it, hook, line and sinker.
Oh, please, Daniel, don't make me laugh so hard.
A flip-flop results from trying to have positions on both sides of an
issue *at the same time*.
A "flip-flop" is simply a sudden change of policy; a decision to
reverse an earlier decision. The 21st Amendment to the Constitution
is a "flip-flop." It's a reversal of an earlier decision (18th
Amendment).
I disagree. The 21st Amendment was done to correct the obvious
mistake of the 18th.
A flip-flop of the earlier decision.
Every reversal is not a flip-flop.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
30 Jun 2005 11:21:05 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:qOSwe.13673$gm6.3427@trnddc05:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:qwKwe.8818$rE6.8784@trnddc06:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable)
wrote in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article
<1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>, Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W.
Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web
site that lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Flip-flopping is what its called when positions change arbitrarily
according to what sounds good politically without actually having
learned anything.
Learning from experience actually requires experience.
So, the "Kerry flip-flopping" claim that the Right did was
inaccurate? I agree.
Kerry flipped every time he addressed a different audience.
Cite?
http://www.sportsmenforkerry.com/flipflop.htm
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/3/7/213753/1954
But, in the interests of civility, this is as far as I'm going.
<snip>
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Jun 2005 05:44:44 AM |
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In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan pirouetted
gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>, Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is firmly
set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to learn
from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when a
Democrat does the exact same thing...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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30 Jun 2005 07:16:11 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan pirouetted
gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>, Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is firmly
set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to learn
from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when a
Democrat does the exact same thing...
Why, donchaknow? Democrats cannot learn anything. They're parroting
little moonbat robots who hate America and love Michael Moore. You
didn't know that?
You need to talk with Fred more. He'll tell you. ;-)
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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30 Jun 2005 09:35:49 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:foRwe.13612$gm6.150@trnddc05:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote
in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when a
Democrat does the exact same thing...
Why, donchaknow? Democrats cannot learn anything. They're parroting
little moonbat robots who hate America and love Michael Moore. You
didn't know that?
They keep providing more evidence for that.
You need to talk with Fred more. He'll tell you. ;-)
Naw, just listen to Howlin' Howard Dean.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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30 Jun 2005 10:48:07 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:foRwe.13612$gm6.150@trnddc05:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote
in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when a
Democrat does the exact same thing...
Why, donchaknow? Democrats cannot learn anything. They're parroting
little moonbat robots who hate America and love Michael Moore. You
didn't know that?
They keep providing more evidence for that.
See? So predictable...
You need to talk with Fred more. He'll tell you. ;-)
Naw, just listen to Howlin' Howard Dean.
Yup. So predictable...
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
30 Jun 2005 11:17:18 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:XuUwe.8250$dz6.5587@trnddc02:
Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:foRwe.13612$gm6.150@trnddc05:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable)
wrote in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article
<1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>, Fred
Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W.
Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web
site that lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.ht
m You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when
a Democrat does the exact same thing...
Why, donchaknow? Democrats cannot learn anything. They're parroting
little moonbat robots who hate America and love Michael Moore. You
didn't know that?
They keep providing more evidence for that.
See? So predictable...
The truth usually is predictable.
You need to talk with Fred more. He'll tell you. ;-)
Naw, just listen to Howlin' Howard Dean.
Yup. So predictable...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
01 Jul 2005 06:53:52 AM |
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In our last episode <foRwe.13612$gm6.150@trnddc05>, DanielSan pirouetted
gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan pirouetted
gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to learn
from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when a
Democrat does the exact same thing...
Why, donchaknow? Democrats cannot learn anything. They're parroting
little moonbat robots who hate America and love Michael Moore. You didn't
know that?
You need to talk with Fred more. He'll tell you. ;-)
Propaganda gives me headaches...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
01 Jul 2005 08:11:24 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:fsydnUkDgoRNs1jfRVn-2w@megapath.net:
In our last episode <foRwe.13612$gm6.150@trnddc05>, DanielSan
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In our last episode <0%Hwe.6539$Ku6.5119@trnddc04>, DanielSan
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable)
wrote in news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W.
Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web
site that lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.h
tm You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to
learn from experience.
"Learn from experience" or "flip-flopping?" Which is it?
Why, when a Republican does it, it's the former. The latter is when
a Democrat does the exact same thing...
Why, donchaknow? Democrats cannot learn anything. They're parroting
little moonbat robots who hate America and love Michael Moore. You
didn't know that?
You need to talk with Fred more. He'll tell you. ;-)
Propaganda gives me headaches...
That's the cognitive dissonance with all the propaganda that you suck
down like lemonade.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable" |
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30 Jun 2005 02:02:57 PM |
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In article <1120094046.c7a41bf3269896f0178eb17bb3fd0537@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
dmcanzi@remulak.ads.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi -- non-mailable) wrote in
news:d9vbve$o5f$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
... happened in 1999 ...
A man cannot become President until an age when his character is
firmly set and unlikely to change -- it's in the Constitution.
I never realized that it was unconstitutional for Presidents to learn
from experience.
Knowledge and character are different and unrelated things.
Bush demonstrated at least one of the character traits of a dictator --
hostility to free speech -- in 1999.
In 2000 he demonstrated another dictatorial character trait --
hostility to fair and free elections -- when he sued to prevent ballots
from being recounted in a close race. And his administration has
been pushing voting technologies that allow election results to be
rigged undetectably.
This is the government that is nibbling away privacy and basic freedoms
with Homeland Severity as its excuse. This is the government that
has given itself the power to force libraries to reveal who borrowed
which books, and to forbid the libraries from revealing to anybody
else that this has been done to them.
Bush had the heart of a dictator in 1999 and 2000, and things going
on today show that he still does. Any American who isn't scared
shitless about the type of man they have running/ruining their country
is a sleepwalker.
--
David Canzi "Upon blind faith they place reliance.
What we need more of is science!" -- MC Hawking
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| User: "towelie" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:24:57 PM |
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
HA! I knew you would use the "old news" excuse. Either I'm a prophet or
you're a robot.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:54:29 PM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:z5ednbCBl4glgl7fRVn-iw@centurytel.net:
TV's Fred Stone wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
HA! I knew you would use the "old news" excuse. Either I'm a prophet
or you're a robot.
Or, just maybe, for once in your life, you used a smidgen of logic.
You know as well as I do that there aren't any more recent examples, in
spite of the *HUGE* number of parodies and other assorted lampoons. Bush
seems to have realized that complaining about it only encourages it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "towelie" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 11:51:50 PM |
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TV's Fred Stone wrote:
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
HA! I knew you would use the "old news" excuse. Either I'm a prophet
or you're a robot.
Or, just maybe, for once in your life, you used a smidgen of logic.
I can predict the content of at least 50% of your posts, so according to
your standards I must be a pretty logical guy.
You know as well as I do that there aren't any more recent examples, in
spite of the *HUGE* number of parodies and other assorted lampoons. Bush
seems to have realized that complaining about it only encourages it.
I don't know if he gave up on the War on Satire because he got into the
White House and didn't feel threatened anymore, or if it's because of the
fact that he ignores the media. I doubt it's because of a sudden respect
for free speech.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 05:50:55 PM |
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In article <1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
magilla <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote:
God, I hope so.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
(email: change out to in)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 05:15:30 PM |
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magilla wrote:
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have too
much free speech?
"Google Groups" is not USENET. The government cannot shut down USENET
due to its decentralization of resources. Same with the Internet. The
government could shut down access to the Internet or USENET, but the
Internet and USENET will continue.
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