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"magilla" |
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29 Jun 2005 01:59:29 PM |
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Google groups down? |
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have too
much free speech?
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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29 Jun 2005 06:57:30 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have too
much free speech?
Yeah. Mark my words they will be planning to take your land next. Whoops
looks like they are already past the planning stage on that one.
Klazmon.
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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29 Jun 2005 02:36:34 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have too
much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has filed
a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons his White
House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 03:39:00 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 04:06:19 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard, and very predictable. I was waiting for an
idiot like you to say something like you did about what I wrote.
Quoting someone is now considered "clinging." You have got some of the most
fucked up definitions I have ever had the misfortune of reading.
I quoted your Daddy. Hardly anything that could be considered "clinging,"
though I must take into account your overwhelming incompetence and your
insistence on Orweillian distortions.
Also of note is your lack of a response that actually pertains to the
subject at hand: President Moron's propensity toward his own personal
dictatorship, while convincing borderline retards like you that he actually
gives a ***** about freedom. And since you won't even spit his ***** out of
your mouth, I doubt you'll be able to actually say something worth listening
to, let alone be able to understand.
Your level of stupidity and apologetics knows no bounds.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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29 Jun 2005 04:14:43 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:f3Ewe.96170$PR6.43861@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard,
You certainly are. You got spanked with your own stupidity, fair and
square. Get over it.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Kate " |
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29 Jun 2005 05:07:02 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:14:43 -0000, No 33 Secretary
<taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:f3Ewe.96170$PR6.43861@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard,
You certainly are. You got spanked with your own stupidity, fair and
square. Get over it.
LOL, not hardly.
Oh and pretty lame trying to send the replies to your idiocy to
alt.test.
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 05:27:16 PM |
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[posted and mailed]
On 29 Jun 2005, you wrote in alt.atheism:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:14:43 -0000, No 33 Secretary
<taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:f3Ewe.96170$PR6.43861@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard,
You certainly are. You got spanked with your own stupidity, fair and
square. Get over it.
LOL, not hardly.
What, you're Donnie's sock puppet?
Oh and pretty lame trying to send the replies to your idiocy to
alt.test.
Made you jump.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:30:36 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:f3Ewe.96170$PR6.43861@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard, and very predictable. I was waiting
for an idiot like you to say something like you did about what I
wrote.
You opened the door with your comment about "how children cling to
grudges over petty *****".
Of course if you had paid any attention in the last six years, you'd
realize that Bush just ignores such parodies any more. That hardly
qualifies as "clinging".
Quoting someone is now considered "clinging." You have got some of the
most fucked up definitions I have ever had the misfortune of reading.
I quoted your Daddy.
Who?
Hardly anything that could be considered
"clinging," though I must take into account your overwhelming
incompetence and your insistence on Orweillian distortions.
I'm not the one who brought "clinging" into the matter.
Also of note is your lack of a response that actually pertains to the
subject at hand: President Moron's propensity toward his own personal
dictatorship, while convincing borderline retards like you that he
actually gives a ***** about freedom. And since you won't even spit his
***** out of your mouth, I doubt you'll be able to actually say
something worth listening to, let alone be able to understand.
Your level of stupidity and apologetics knows no bounds.
Your level of overreaction says volumes.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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29 Jun 2005 06:10:11 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120084236.69d78eccea9414749f80e9b330543040@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:f3Ewe.96170$PR6.43861@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard, and very predictable. I was waiting
for an idiot like you to say something like you did about what I
wrote.
You opened the door with your comment about "how children cling to
grudges over petty *****".
Only a fuckwit like you could go from "clinging to grudges" and somehow
manage to associate it with quoting Shrub, directly.
Of course if you had paid any attention in the last six years, you'd
realize that Bush just ignores such parodies any more. That hardly
qualifies as "clinging".
Quoting someone is now considered "clinging." You have got some of the
most fucked up definitions I have ever had the misfortune of reading.
I quoted your Daddy.
Who?
Your Daddy, President Dumbass. You spend your days verbally sucking his *****
and defending his every fuckup, so I assumed you would have recognized the
reference.
Hardly anything that could be considered
"clinging," though I must take into account your overwhelming
incompetence and your insistence on Orweillian distortions.
I'm not the one who brought "clinging" into the matter.
In your typical blockheaded form, you manage to distort and redefine,
coupled with emphasizing the wrong aspect of the statement.
I was making fun of your hero, but you're too big of a dumbass to grasp
that.
Also of note is your lack of a response that actually pertains to the
subject at hand: President Moron's propensity toward his own personal
dictatorship, while convincing borderline retards like you that he
actually gives a ***** about freedom. And since you won't even spit his
***** out of your mouth, I doubt you'll be able to actually say
something worth listening to, let alone be able to understand.
Your level of stupidity and apologetics knows no bounds.
Your level of overreaction says volumes.
Sorry that my response consisted of more than the three-second, simpleton
sound-bytes that you understand. I'll try harder next time.....
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 07:42:38 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:nTFwe.86707$6g3.31530@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120084236.69d78eccea9414749f80e9b330543040@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:f3Ewe.96170$PR6.43861@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews...
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we
have too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W.
Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web
site that lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.h
tm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Non sequitur response, fucktard, and very predictable. I was
waiting for an idiot like you to say something like you did about
what I wrote.
You opened the door with your comment about "how children cling to
grudges over petty *****".
Only a fuckwit like you could go from "clinging to grudges" and
somehow manage to associate it with quoting Shrub, directly.
Only a moonbat like you would deny that two sentences that he wrote
together aren't related.
Of course if you had paid any attention in the last six years, you'd
realize that Bush just ignores such parodies any more. That hardly
qualifies as "clinging".
Quoting someone is now considered "clinging." You have got some of
the most fucked up definitions I have ever had the misfortune of
reading.
I quoted your Daddy.
Who?
Your Daddy, President Dumbass. You spend your days verbally sucking
his ***** and defending his every fuckup, so I assumed you would have
recognized the reference.
No, sorry, I don't share your paternal penis-envy.
Hardly anything that could be considered
"clinging," though I must take into account your overwhelming
incompetence and your insistence on Orweillian distortions.
I'm not the one who brought "clinging" into the matter.
In your typical blockheaded form, you manage to distort and redefine,
coupled with emphasizing the wrong aspect of the statement.
I was making fun of your hero, but you're too big of a dumbass to
grasp that.
I was making fun of *YOU*, and you've certainly managed to justify the
ridicule.
Also of note is your lack of a response that actually pertains to
the subject at hand: President Moron's propensity toward his own
personal dictatorship, while convincing borderline retards like you
that he actually gives a ***** about freedom. And since you won't
even spit his ***** out of your mouth, I doubt you'll be able to
actually say something worth listening to, let alone be able to
understand.
Your level of stupidity and apologetics knows no bounds.
Your level of overreaction says volumes.
Sorry that my response consisted of more than the three-second,
simpleton sound-bytes that you understand.
Your response *didn't* consist of anything more substantial.
I'll try harder next
time.....
Don't strain your other neuron in the process.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "magilla" |
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29 Jun 2005 03:50:19 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
So, history is a pointless endeavor. Thanks.
Chris
aa2186
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:14:50 PM |
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"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1120078219.259666.246780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"magilla" <chris.linthompson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1120071569.409594.124610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
No new messages for over an hour...has the gubmint decided we have
too much free speech?
I dunno.....you decide:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
So, history is a pointless endeavor. Thanks.
Times change. People change.
GWB seems to have realized that acknowledging such parodies only
encourages them.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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29 Jun 2005 08:09:07 PM |
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:14:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Times change. People change.
GWB seems to have realized that acknowledging such parodies only
encourages them.
Now if he could just explain this other comment he made in 1999
calling on President Bill Clinton to set a timetable for exiting the
war in Kosovo, saying: "Victory means exit strategy... ."
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 10:12:11 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:u7h6c1t867ru0stb4pu7lphpn9k5q7lfph@4ax.com:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:14:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Times change. People change.
GWB seems to have realized that acknowledging such parodies only
encourages them.
Now if he could just explain this other comment he made in 1999
calling on President Bill Clinton to set a timetable for exiting the
war in Kosovo, saying: "Victory means exit strategy... ."
Times change. People change.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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29 Jun 2005 11:31:30 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 03:12:11 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:u7h6c1t867ru0stb4pu7lphpn9k5q7lfph@4ax.com:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:14:50 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
Times change. People change.
GWB seems to have realized that acknowledging such parodies only
encourages them.
Now if he could just explain this other comment he made in 1999
calling on President Bill Clinton to set a timetable for exiting the
war in Kosovo, saying: "Victory means exit strategy... ."
Times change. People change.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Emi M Briet" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:32:51 PM |
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In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush has
filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that lampoons
his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Clinging? He's still doing it today.
He limits his opposition to "free speech zones" when he's out and about.
Last I knew, this whole country is supposed to be a free speech zone.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Jun 2005 05:56:40 PM |
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Emi M Briet <emi@emiofbrie.cx> wrote in
news:emi-3A1C06.17325129062005@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Clinging? He's still doing it today.
He limits his opposition to "free speech zones" when he's out and
about.
Bush isn't the first President to do that.
Last I knew, this whole country is supposed to be a free speech zone.
Government has always had an overriding interest in exercising some
restraint on the freedom of assembly.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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29 Jun 2005 06:19:11 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120085800.f6bfeaec6141425bbe48a4113addc84e@teranews...
Emi M Briet <emi@emiofbrie.cx> wrote in
news:emi-3A1C06.17325129062005@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W. Bush
has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web site that
lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.htm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Clinging? He's still doing it today.
He limits his opposition to "free speech zones" when he's out and
about.
Bush isn't the first President to do that.
Tu quoque, noted. How predictable and unoriginal of you.
Last I knew, this whole country is supposed to be a free speech zone.
Government has always had an overriding interest in exercising some
restraint on the freedom of assembly.
I suppose you could post some cites that support your claim? Something
within, say, the passed 15 years. Though we all know you're such a hypocrite
that you'll demand cites from others, and likely won't provide any of your
own. For once, try to surprise us...
Also, I didn't know you were such a fan of the Police State. "Free Speech
Zones" that are constructed far away from him, President Clusterfuck, so
that he doesn't hear anything bad, so he can continue living his dream that
everyone loves him. You know that being President is such hard work, and we
wouldn't want to subject poor, li'l Georgie to any criricism.
"Orweillian" applies more and more to this Administration.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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29 Jun 2005 07:54:06 PM |
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"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:P%Fwe.86710$6g3.38430@tornado.texas.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120085800.f6bfeaec6141425bbe48a4113addc84e@teranews...
Emi M Briet <emi@emiofbrie.cx> wrote in
news:emi-3A1C06.17325129062005@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com:
In article <1120077540.c1cc6d5b8ba35bac931baf28cbb5797c@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in
news:6LCwe.86677$6g3.51015@tornado.texas.rr.com:
Saying "there ought to be limits to freedom," Gov. George W.
Bush has filed a legal complaint against the owners of a Web
site that lampoons his White House bid.
http://www.rtmark.com/more/articles/bushdallas0522bush1bushsite.h
tm
You know how children cling to grudges over petty *****.
Like how you are clinging to something that happened in 1999?
Clinging? He's still doing it today.
He limits his opposition to "free speech zones" when he's out and
about.
Bush isn't the first President to do that.
Tu quoque, noted. How predictable and unoriginal of you.
Denial of precedent noted.
Last I knew, this whole country is supposed to be a free speech
zone.
Government has always had an overriding interest in exercising some
restraint on the freedom of assembly.
I suppose you could post some cites that support your claim? Something
within, say, the passed 15 years. Though we all know you're such a
hypocrite that you'll demand cites from others, and likely won't
provide any of your own. For once, try to surprise us...
http://www.citizenadvocacycenter.org/lsnplfirstamendment.htm
What regulations can the government place on protected speech?
....Even though the speech...is protected, the government still has a
right to regulate that speech as to time, place, and manner.
Time: A public body can limit how long a person speaks, that a music
concert cannot go until 2 a.m., or how long people can gather for a
parade.
Place: A public body can limit where people lawfully gather. Picketing
can be limited to the sidewalk, and not to the street as to interfere
with traffic, entrance to buildings cannot be blocked, etc.
Manner: Government can prohibit posting of signs or advertisements on
public property to prevent visual pollution, prohibit the use of a
bullhorn late at night, etc.
[end cite]
In addition, Government can arrange that two adversarial groups may
gather in *different* areas so as not to come into contact with each
other.
Also, I didn't know you were such a fan of the Police State. "Free
Speech Zones" that are constructed far away from him, President
Clusterfuck, so that he doesn't hear anything bad, so he can continue
living his dream that everyone loves him.
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to assemble
and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere with others.
You know that being
President is such hard work, and we wouldn't want to subject poor,
li'l Georgie to any criricism.
"Orweillian" applies more and more to this Administration.
The orwellianism is coming from the left, with their paranoid spin on
everything the administration says or does.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Emi M Briet" |
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| Title: Re: Google groups down? |
29 Jun 2005 11:54:20 PM |
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In article <1120092846.47ff435411f43415985682da8db2a423@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to assemble
and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere with others.
All mamy people want to do is show a sign and remain otherwise silent.
How is that interfering with the event if the sign doesn't block anyone
else's view?
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| User: "Kate " |
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30 Jun 2005 12:18:02 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to assemble
and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere with others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be seen
and heard by anyone else attending the event.
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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30 Jun 2005 12:27:42 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in news:42ec28c4.664660328@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to assemble
and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere with others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be seen
and heard by anyone else attending the event.
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard. Get over it.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "JHC" |
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30 Jun 2005 12:47:29 PM |
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"No 33 Secretary" <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50...
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard.
This is a clear example of Orwellian doublethink.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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30 Jun 2005 12:50:20 PM |
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"JHC" <jhc@nospam.net> wrote in news:rq6dnfDYUcCwrVnfRVn-hw@comcast.com:
"No 33 Secretary" <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50...
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard.
This is a clear example of Orwellian doublethink.
You are a clear example of mental retardation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=retardation
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Virgil" |
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30 Jun 2005 10:36:35 PM |
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In article <rq6dnfDYUcCwrVnfRVn-hw@comcast.com>, "JHC" <jhc@nospam.net>
wrote:
"No 33 Secretary" <taustin+usenet@hyperbooks.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50...
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard.
This is a clear example of Orwellian doublethink.
It is so much clearer and truer that Simple Septic's version of
doublethink, that I am inclined to support it.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Jul 2005 06:55:01 AM |
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In our last episode <Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>,
No 33 Secretary pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in news:42ec28c4.664660328@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to assemble
and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere with others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be seen
and heard by anyone else attending the event.
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard. Get over it.
When it comes to the government, yes there is.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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01 Jul 2005 10:27:23 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:ZfCdnfq3QpKIsljfRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>, No 33 Secretary
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in news:42ec28c4.664660328@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to
assemble and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere
with others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be
seen and heard by anyone else attending the event.
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard. Get over
it.
When it comes to the government, yes there is.
Self-evidently incorrect. Get over it.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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02 Jul 2005 05:24:45 AM |
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In our last episode <Xns9686560641BEFtaustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>,
No 33 Secretary pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:ZfCdnfq3QpKIsljfRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>, No 33 Secretary
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in news:42ec28c4.664660328@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with the
public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to
assemble and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere with
others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be seen
and heard by anyone else attending the event.
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard. Get over
it.
When it comes to the government, yes there is.
Self-evidently incorrect. Get over it.
How Soviet of you.
You cannot run a representative government if the government does not have
to listen to its citizens.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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02 Jul 2005 08:48:08 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:O8idnSp-Sejz9lvfRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<Xns9686560641BEFtaustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>, No 33 Secretary
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:ZfCdnfq3QpKIsljfRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>, No 33 Secretary
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in news:42ec28c4.664660328@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with
the public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to
assemble and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere
with others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be
seen and heard by anyone else attending the event.
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard. Get
over it.
When it comes to the government, yes there is.
Self-evidently incorrect. Get over it.
How Soviet of you.
You cannot run a representative government if the government does not
have to listen to its citizens.
That's called "voting", Mark.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "No 33 Secretary" |
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05 Jul 2005 11:40:32 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:O8idnSp-Sejz9lvfRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<Xns9686560641BEFtaustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>, No 33 Secretary
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:ZfCdnfq3QpKIsljfRVn-sw@megapath.net:
In our last episode
<Xns96856A6C28412taustinhyperbookscom@216.168.3.50>, No 33 Secretary
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in news:42ec28c4.664660328@news-
west.newscene.com:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:54:06 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Wrong. They're constructed so as not to permit interference with
the public purpose of his appearance. Protestors have the right to
assemble and to speak, they do *not* have the right to interfere
with others.
In this case interfering with other means being where they can be
seen and heard by anyone else attending the event.
The right to speak has never included the right to be heard. Get
over it.
When it comes to the government, yes there is.
Self-evidently incorrect. Get over it.
How Soviet of you.
How Godwin of you. Thanks for admitting I win.
You cannot run a representative government if the government does not
have to listen to its citizens.
That's not free speech. That's the right to seek redress in court. Not
those last two words "in court."
We aren't talking about anybody being in court.
If you aren't a 'tard, you'd know that.
--
Terry Austin
www.hyperbooks.com
Campaign Cartographer now available
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