Religions > Atheism > GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers
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08 Nov 2006 10:06:43 AM |
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GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
surrounding the legend.
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| User: "True Blue" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
08 Nov 2006 04:18:33 PM |
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<instinctsetfree@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1163002003.061835.156610@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
surrounding the legend.
Trans: This is tinfoiling nonsense that Daily Sport chavs may take passing
interest in.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
09 Nov 2006 10:40:30 AM |
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wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
surrounding the legend.
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy?lnk=li&hl=en
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| User: "Gorp" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
09 Nov 2006 10:45:14 AM |
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said:
instinctsetfree@lycos.com wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
surrounding the legend.
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
Translation:
"I believe everything I see, as long as it fits my predetermined opinion and
personal prejudice."
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
09 Nov 2006 11:08:08 AM |
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
Translation:
"I believe everything I see, as long as it fits my predetermined opinion and
personal prejudice."
I personally care very little about this subject. What little evidence
I've looked at though supports what's in this video.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
09 Nov 2006 03:29:00 PM |
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On 9 Nov 2006 09:08:08 -0800, wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
Translation:
"I believe everything I see, as long as it fits my predetermined opinion and
personal prejudice."
I personally care very little about this subject. What little evidence
I've looked at though supports what's in this video.
Translation: What little revisionist evidence I've looked at supports
this revisionist video.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
- G W Bush (Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000)
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| User: "Hurt" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
09 Nov 2006 04:32:12 PM |
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http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
I personally care very little about this subject. What little evidence
I've looked at though supports what's in this video.
Translation: What little revisionist evidence I've looked at supports
this revisionist video.
*omit* revisionist: What little evidence I've looked at supports this
video.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
09 Nov 2006 05:03:04 PM |
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On 9 Nov 2006 14:32:12 -0800, "Hurt" <hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com>
wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
I personally care very little about this subject. What little evidence
I've looked at though supports what's in this video.
Translation: What little revisionist evidence I've looked at supports
this revisionist video.
*omit* revisionist: What little evidence I've looked at supports this
video.
Why omit revisionist - it's the only evidence you look at.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your
Christ."
- Mohandas Gandhi
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| User: "Hurt" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
12 Nov 2006 12:29:05 PM |
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Hyphenation brought to you by the retard network ?
Why omit revisionist - it's the only evidence you look at.
Primarily because that word has a negative emotional connotation.
However it would not be incorrect to use since I am revising,
correcting, long unchallenged propaganda.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
12 Nov 2006 11:11:36 PM |
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On 12 Nov 2006 10:29:05 -0800, "Hurt" <hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com>
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Hyphenation brought to you by the retard network ?
Why omit revisionist - it's the only evidence you look at.
Primarily because that word has a negative emotional connotation.
It's YOUR choice to only look at untrue "negative emotional
connotation" "evidence", not mine, so live with your choice. People
who roll around in a pig sty seldom smell like attar of rose.
However it would not be incorrect to use since I am revising,
correcting, long unchallenged propaganda.
For that you'd need facts, not untrue "negative emotional connotation"
"evidence", which you don't have, so your results will be just more
essence de pig.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed
to ignore totally all the patient findings of thinking minds through all
the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant
people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking
among us who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all, who
would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us, who would invade
our schools and libraries and homes.
- Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Hurt" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
13 Nov 2006 10:23:27 AM |
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It's YOUR choice to only look at untrue "negative emotional
connotation" "evidence", not mine, so live with your choice. People
who roll around in a pig sty seldom smell like attar of rose.
However it would not be incorrect to use since I am revising,
correcting, long unchallenged propaganda.
For that you'd need facts, not untrue "negative emotional connotation"
"evidence", which you don't have, so your results will be just more
essence de pig.
Your dialog is senseless emotional dribble. There is no appropriate
response to such irrationality. Click.
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
10 Nov 2006 04:46:36 PM |
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be wrote
in message
<1163090430.542016.223550@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>:
instinctsetfree@lycos.com wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
surrounding the legend.
That was a pretty good video. Largely accurate it would seem.
Really?
Let's start with the title: how many divisions did "Judea" have at
the time of this declaration, and how were they trained and supplied?
*Then* we can talk about the dedication to "Ernst Zundel ... who <has>
lost <his> freedom or livelihood because <he> dared to speak the
truth."
Are we talking about the same zundel? The one found guilty of lying
by *two* different juries of his peers?
The one *still* raking in the donations (likely more than before)
because of zir idiocy of advocating the return of National Socialism
in a country where such is outlawed because it nearly destroyed them
the last time?
The one who whined about having only a single unsharpened pencil stub
to produce the full-colour sketches zie was selling from zir jail
cell?
What "truth" are you pretending zie has spoken?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
12 Nov 2006 03:35:09 PM |
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Roger wrote:
The one *still* raking in the donations (likely more than before)
because of zir idiocy of advocating the return of National Socialism
in a country where such is outlawed because it nearly destroyed them
the last time?
National Socialism nearly destroyed Germany? So Germany almost
destroyed itself by being a happy and proud nation? So you are saying
for Germany to be self-interested is akin to killing themselves? What
kind of cruel twisted freak are you?
THE POWERS that emerged victorious from World War I made a second war
almost inevitable by the peace conditions they imposed upon Germany.
That second war was later made certain, not by the intentions of Hitler
but by the determination of his eternal enemies to destroy the new
Germany that he had created.
By the Treaty of Versailles on 28 June 1919 and the Treaty of St.
Germain on 20 September of the same year, the German people were
thoroughly humiliated. The British Prime Minister, Lloyd George, wrote:
'The international bankers swept statesmen, politicians,
journalists and jurists all to one side and issued their orders with
the imperiousness of absolute monarchs.'
The old Austrian Empire was balkanised without respect to its various
cultures and nationalities. East Prussia was separated from Germany by
a large area ceded to Poland. The Sudeten Germans were placed under
Czech control. The coal mining area of the Saar Valley was to be
administered for fifteen years by the League of Nations and then a
plebiscite held. The corrupt Weimar Republic was forced upon the German
nation and the middle classes were robbed of their savings by corrupt
finance. There were millions of unemployed and the Sparticist Jewish
revolutionary leaders Karl Leibknecht and Rosa Luxembourg were stirring
up red revolution.
ALIEN CONTROL
The Daily Mail reported on 10 July 1933:
'The German nation, moreover, was rapidly falling under the control
of its alien elements. In the last days of the pre-Hitler regime there
were twenty times as many Jewish government officials in Germany as had
existed before the war. Israelites of international attachments were
insinuating themselves into key positions in the German administrative
machine.'
Dr. Manfred Reifer, a well known leader of the Jews of Bukovina, wrote
in the Jewish magazine Czernowitzer Allegemeine Zeitung (September
1933):
'Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the
preservation of their race, we Jews filled the streets of Germany with
our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject
of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs
in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals
of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.'
Resentment and resistance began to build up against the alien horde and
in the year before Adolf Hitler came to power Bernard Lecache,
President of the World Jewish League, stated:
'Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to
declare war without mercy against her.'
The National Socialist Party of Adolf Hitler gained 17,300,000 votes in
the election and gained 288 seats in the Reichstag. On 30 January 1933
Hitler was legally appointed Chancellor of the German Reich by
President Von Hindenberg. On 24 March 1933 the Reichstag elected by 441
votes to 94 to give full emergency powers to the new Reich Chancellor
and the corrupt Weimar Republic ceased to exist.
On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily
Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany:
Jews of all the world unite", and followed with:
'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and
financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol
of the new Germany revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen
million Jews stand as one body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish
wholesale dealer leaves his business, the banker his bank, the
shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his miserable hut in order to combine
forces in the holy war against Hitler's people.'
The German government was removing Jews from influential positions and
transferring power back to the German people. This declaration of war
by the Jews on Germany was repeated throughout the world. The first
boycott of Jewish business concerns came after this Jewish declaration
of war in April 1933.
TOTAL DESTRUCTION DEMANDED
Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist
organisation, wrote in the January 1934 issue of Mascha Rjetach:
'For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each
Jewish community at each conference in all our syndicates and by each
Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in
this struggle has general value. We will start a spiritual and material
war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a
great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish
interests demand Germany's total destruction, collectively and
individually. The German nation is a threat to us Jews.'
Emil Ludwig Cohen wrote in his book The New Holy Alliance, Strasburg,
1938:
'Even if Hitler at the last moment would want to avoid war which
would destroy him he will, in spite of his wishes, be compelled to wage
war.'
Bernard Lechache wrote in The Right to Live (December 1938):
'It is our task to organise the moral and cultural blockade of
Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless
war.'
The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederlands printed
on 13 September 1939:
'The millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North
Africa and South, not forgetting Palestine, have decided to carry on
the war in Germany to the very end. It is to be a war of
extermination.'
The Toronto Star (26 February 1940) printed a declaration of a Rabbi
Perlberg, Director of the British section of the Jewish World Congress:
'The Jewish World Congress is in a state of war with Germany for
seven years.'
The Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago printed in its issue of 8
October 1940:
'When the National Socialists and their friends cry or whisper that
this [the war] is brought about by Jews, they are perfectly right.'
Hitler now put into operation the plan of getting all German areas into
one state and all Germans under one German Government. The Germans in
the Rhineland, the Germans in Austria and the Sudeten Germans responded
willingly. In January 1935 the Saar Valley voted to return to Germany
with a 90 per-cent poll in favour. There were also Germans in East
Prussia and in Danzig now divided by land ceded to Poland by the Treaty
of Versailles. It is interesting to note that between 1933 and 1937
10,000 Jews migrated to Hitler's Germany, 97 of them from Palestine.
THE MUNICH AGREEMENT
An agreement was signed between Germany (Hitler) and Great Britain
(Neville Chamberlain) which suggested a peaceful revision of the wrongs
committed by the Treaty of Versailles. A four-power conference was
suggested which would preserve the peace. The four powers were Great
Britain, Germany, France and Italy.
The paper Truth of 5 January 1952 stated that Mr. Oswald Pirow, South
African Minister of Defence, was sent on a mission to Germany in 1938
by General Smuts to ease the tension on the Jewish issue. The British
Prime Minister told Pirow that pressure of International Jewry was one
of the principal obstacles to an Anglo-German accommodation and that it
would greatly help him resist that pressure if Hitler could be induced
to moderate his policy towards the German Jews. Pirow stated that
Hitler viewed this idea with favour and an Anglo-German agreement was
in sight; the effect would have been, in the event of war, to limit the
conflict to Germany and Russia, with the other great powers intervening
to enforce their own terms when the combatants were exhausted.
However, the Four Nations Pact was not to be. The Jews put an end to
this, for on 7 November 1938, a few weeks after the Munich Agreement
and shortly before the journey to Paris of the German Foreign Minister,
Von Ribbentrop, the Polish Jew, Herschel Feibel Grynszpan murdered the
German Third Secretary of State, Ernst von Rath, in the German Embassy
in Paris. The five bullets fired were the logical result of the Jews'
declaration of war on Germany of March 1933 and put an end to the
effort being made to explain and extend the importance of the Munich
Agreement and the revision of the Treaty of Versailles.
This assassination provoked anti-Jewish riots in Germany, with the
burning of synagogues and the looting and burning of Jewish shops. The
anti-Jewish riots inflamed public opinion in Great Britain and the USA
against Chamberlain's efforts to relieve Anglo-German tension. In the
United States Germans were assaulted and persecuted. The Jews began
leaving Germany.
The Paris magazine L'Ami du Peuple wrote about them:
'These people fled from Germany because they attempted to set up a
rule of fire and blood and to let loose the horrors of civil war and
universal chaos.'
The American Secretary of State, James Forrestal, who later died in
mysterious circumstances, wrote in his Forrestal Diaries (Cassel and
Co., London 1952):
'Have played golf with Joe Kennedy [US Ambassador in Britain,
father of President John Kennedy]. According to him, Chamberlain
declared that Zionism and world Jewry have obliged England to enter the
war.'
The Jew, Schlomo Asch, in a pep talk to French troops in the line in Le
Nouvelles Litteraires (10 February 1940) wrote:
'This is our war and you are fighting it for us. Even if we Jews
are not bodily in the trenches we are nevertheless morally with you.'
On 8 October 1942 Sentinel magazine stated unequivocally:
'The Second World War is being fought for the defence and
fundamentals of Judaism.'
TERROR BOMBING
Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had given an assurance that:
'The British Government would never resort to the deliberate attack
on women and children and other civilians for the purpose of mere
terrorism.'
However, his successor Winston Churchill appointed as his personal
adviser the Jew Professor Lindemann. Lindemann, later Lord Cherwell,
suggested the bombing of German cities and that working class areas
were legitimate targets, and from then onwards the last vestiges of
civilised decency in warfare were abandoned. These bombings began on 10
August 1940 with the bombing of the small open town of Freiburg on the
Swiss frontier. Fifty-three civilians were killed, including twenty
children playing in the park. It was reported by Mr. Taylor of the
American Red Cross in the New York Times of 3 May 1940. This was before
the Germans began bombing British cities. Mr. J. M. Speight, CBE,
Principal Secretary to the Air Ministry, wrote in his book The Splendid
Decision:
'Adolf Hitler only undertook the bombing of British civilian
targets reluctantly after the RAF had commenced bombing German civilian
targets... It gave Coventry, Birmingham, Sheffield and Southampton the
right to look Kiev, Kharkov, Stalingrad and Sebastopol in the face. Our
Soviet allies would have been less critical of our inactivity if they
had understood what we had done... Hitler would have been willing at my
time to stop the slaughter. Hitler was genuinely anxious to reach with
Britain an agreement confining the action of aircraft to battle zones.'
VENGEANCE
In 1941, long before there was any assembling of Jews for the supposed
extermination camps, a Jew, Theodor N. Kaufman, wrote Germany Must
Perish. Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German
population by a very simple method: the mass sterilisation of all
German men and women between the age of puberty and sixty years. He
described the construction of the organisation for doing this. This
book was the basis of the Morgenthau Plan for the total destruction of
German industry and the enslavement of the German race. Naturally these
intentions of Germany's enemy got into the hands of the German
propaganda minister Goebbels, and it stiffened the resistance of the
German nation to avoid defeat. The Morgenthau Plan formed the basis of
discussions between President Roosevelt and Soviet leader Stalin acting
through his liaison officer, the Soviet Jew Zabrousky, and also formed
the basis of the Yalta Agreement.
From a pre-1993 edition of John Tyndall's Spearhead magazine
Main Directory
-- The Heretical Press --
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| User: "John of Aix" |
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| Title: Re: GoogleVideo: The Definitive Holocaustianity Video for Believers and Deniers |
08 Nov 2006 01:53:07 PM |
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wrote:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5467701992662742210
How much of what we know about the holocaust is based on cruel wartime
propaganda? This fascinating documentary investigates the myths
surrounding the legend.
Well I started to watch but it was all pretty amateur, however when I
got to absolute arrant nonsense written on the screen informing me that
the Romans had wrapped 16 million Jewish children in scrolls and burnt
them alive I decided it was all utter tosh. I very much doubt of there
were 16 million people in the whole of North Africa at the time, let
alone 16 million Jewish children in Palestine.
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