GOP Lie of the Day: Democrats Have "Same Information" about Iraq (Fred Stone, the Minion to the Party of Treason)



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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"
Date: 12 Nov 2005 01:55:34 AM
Object: GOP Lie of the Day: Democrats Have "Same Information" about Iraq (Fred Stone, the Minion to the Party of Treason)
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/11/iraq-intel/
FACT — Dissent From White House Claims on Iraq Nuclear Program
Consistently Withheld from Congress:
[S]everal Congressional and intelligence officials with access to the
15 assessments [of intel suggesting aluminum tubes showed Iraq was
reconstituting its nuclear program] said not one of them informed
senior policy makers of the Energy Department’s dissent. They
described a series of reports, some with ominous titles, that failed
to convey either the existence or the substance of the intensifying
debate.” [NYT, 10/3/04]
FACT — Sen. Kerrey: Bush “Has Much More Access” to Intel Than
Congress:
Former Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE), ex-Senate Intelligence Committee vice
chairman: “The president has much more access to intelligence than
members of Congress does. Ask any member of Congress. Ask a Republican
member of Congress, do you get the same access to intelligence that
the president does? Look at these aluminum tube stories that came out
the president delivered to the Congress — ‘We believe these would be
used for centrifuges.’ — didn’t deliver to Congress the full range of
objections from the Department of Energy experts, nuclear weapons
experts, that said it’s unlikely they were for centrifuges, more
likely that they were for rockets, which was a pre-existing use. The
president has much more access to intelligence than any member of
Congress.” [10/7/04] expand post »
FACT — Rockefeller: PDBs, CIA Intel Withheld From Senate:
Ranking minority member on the Senate Intelligence Committee Jay
Rockefeller (D-WV): “[P]eople say, ‘Well, you know, you all had the
same intelligence that the White House had.’ And I’m here to tell you
that is nowhere near the truth. We not only don’t have, nor probably
should we have, the Presidential Daily Brief. We don’t have the
constant people who are working on intelligence who are very close to
him. They don’t release their — an administration which tends not to
release — not just the White House, but the CIA, DOD [Department of
Defense], others — they control information. There’s a lot of
intelligence that we don’t get that they have.” [11/04/05]
FACT — War Supporter Ken Pollack: White House Engaged in “Creative
Omission” of Iraq Intel:
In the eyes of Kenneth Pollack, “a Clinton-era National Security
Council member and strong supporter of regime change in Iraq,” “the
Administration consistently engaged in ‘creative omission,’
overstating the imminence of the Iraqi threat, even though it had
evidence to the contrary. ‘The President is responsible for serving
the entire nation,’ Pollack writes. ‘Only the Administration has
access to all the information available to various agencies of the US
government – and withholding or downplaying some of that information
for its own purposes is a betrayal of that responsibility.’”
[Christian Science Monitor, 1/14/04]
FACT — White House Had Exclusive Access to “Unique” Intel Sources:
“The claim that the White House and Congress saw the ’same
intelligence’ on Iraq is further undermined by the Bush
administration’s use of outside intelligence channels. For more than
year prior to the war, the administration received intelligence
assessments and analysis on Iraq directly from the Department of
Defense’s Office of Special Plans (OSP), run by then-undersecretary of
defense for policy Douglas J. Feith, and the Iraqi National Congress
(INC), a group of Iraqi exiles led by Ahmed Chalabi.” [MediaMatters,
11/8/05] « collapse post
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2061 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.

User: "duke"

Title: Re: GOP Lie of the Day: Democrats Have "Same Information" about Iraq (Fred Stone, the Minion to the Party of Treason) 12 Nov 2005 01:29:32 PM
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:55:34 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.

Yet I served my country in time of war, and you GAYang, just ran, and ran, and
ran away.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: GOP Lie of the Day: Democrats Have "Same Information" about Iraq (Fred Stone, the Minion to the Party of Treason) 15 Nov 2005 12:31:20 AM
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:29:32 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:55:34 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine
Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka Earl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.


Yet I served my country in time of war, and you GAYang, just ran, and ran, and
ran away.

Pussying out of the Vietnam draft "in service" of your country? Let
me guess, you were rooting for USSR.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2067 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
.



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