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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"
Date: 15 Jul 2007 02:31:14 PM
Object: GOP: Prayer In Congress is Okay, As Long As It's Christian
Fucking hypocrites.
Where's your faked outrage now, BTR1701?
http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2007/07/15/protesters-disrupt-first-hindu-prayer-in-senate/
On Thursday, July 12, Rajan Zed became the first person to offer a
Hindu prayer on the Senate floor. Sadly, the prayer was disrupted by
"Christian patriots" who were eventually arrested on the misdemeanor
charge of disrupting Congress.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
.

User: ""

Title: Re: GOP: Prayer In Congress is Okay, As Long As It's Christian 15 Jul 2007 03:15:10 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c) reported the news, 3 days late, but better late than never:

On Thursday, July 12, Rajan Zed became the first person to offer a
Hindu prayer on the Senate floor.

This is a great step forward, not specifically that the prayer was
Hindu, but that the prayer was non-Christian.

Sadly, the prayer was disrupted by "Christian patriots" who were
eventually arrested on the misdemeanor charge of disrupting Congress.

They should be charged under the "hate crime" law.
From the referred Web page:

http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2007/07/15/protesters-disrupt-first-hindu-prayer-in-senate/

Zed, who was born in India, was invited by Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid, D-Nev.
I think I want to move to Nevada so that I can vote for him!
Meanwhile, I hope Reid invites people of all the other religions to
speak, and if Richard Dawkins ever visits the USA I hope he's
invited to speak from the scientist/atheist viewpoint. Perhaps
Richard would start with something like this: "Whereas there is no
evidence whatsoever for the existance of any supernatural being, I
offer my prayer not to a hypothetical supernatural being but to
living people everywhere. I pray to you that you will try to
understand both the methodology and the major findings of science,
and that you will provide increased funding to support scientific
research and education. In particular, every student of every
school, regardless of religious belief, needs to have a basic
understanding of reproduction, genetics, replication of the genome,
mistakes in replication, neutral drift, natural selection, and the
longterm consequences of all those processes occurring
simultaneously on a planet that has always been changing landscape
due to plate tektonics volcanism and weathering. I pray that each
of you will obtain a transcript of this prayer and go on the
InterNet to look up any term you don't yet understand."
... said Reid, a Mormon ...
After he's invited speakers representing all the various religions,
I hope he invites speakers representing all the various sects of
the major religions, and has each offer a prayer that is very
specific to that particular sect and antagonistic to all the other
sects of the same religion. For example, a Morman prayer would
quote from the Book of Mormon some passage that goes against
mainstream Christian beliefs, and a Catholic prayer would
specifically hail Mary mother of God and praise the Pope as
infallible and praise twenty or thirty specific saints, and a
Shiite prayer would make statements totally antagonistic to Sunnis.
The most fun would be the fundamentalist Agostic prayer, condemning
all claims that there is or is not a god, because it's absolutely
impossible for any mere mortal to know such a thing, and the Zen prayer.
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: GOP: Prayer In Congress is Okay, As Long As It's Christian 15 Jul 2007 08:08:12 PM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:15:10 -0000, SomeLurker@alt.atheism wrote:

The most fun would be the fundamentalist Agostic prayer, condemning
all claims that there is or is not a god, because it's absolutely
impossible for any mere mortal to know such a thing

An agnostic wouldn't make such a claim, since there's no evidence that
it's true.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: GOP: Prayer In Congress is Okay, As Long As It's Christian 26 Jul 2007 10:54:45 PM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:08:12 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:15:10 -0000, SomeLurker@alt.atheism wrote:

The most fun would be the fundamentalist Agostic prayer, condemning
all claims that there is or is not a god, because it's absolutely
impossible for any mere mortal to know such a thing


An agnostic wouldn't make such a claim, since there's no evidence that
it's true.

There's also an effective lack of definition for the g-o-d letter
string.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
.


User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: GOP: Prayer In Congress is Okay, As Long As It's Christian 16 Jul 2007 10:11:39 AM
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:15:10 -0000, SomeLurker@alt.atheism wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) reported the news, 3 days late, but better late than never:

On Thursday, July 12, Rajan Zed became the first person to offer a
Hindu prayer on the Senate floor.


This is a great step forward, not specifically that the prayer was
Hindu, but that the prayer was non-Christian.

Sponsered by a devout Mormon no less. Props to Harry Reid.

Sadly, the prayer was disrupted by "Christian patriots" who were
eventually arrested on the misdemeanor charge of disrupting Congress.


They should be charged under the "hate crime" law.

From the referred Web page:

http://www.clarksvilleonline.com/2007/07/15/protesters-disrupt-first-hindu-prayer-in-senate/

Zed, who was born in India, was invited by Senate Majority Leader
Harry Reid, D-Nev.

I think I want to move to Nevada so that I can vote for him!

Meanwhile, I hope Reid invites people of all the other religions to
speak, and if Richard Dawkins ever visits the USA I hope he's
invited to speak from the scientist/atheist viewpoint. Perhaps
Richard would start with something like this: "Whereas there is no
evidence whatsoever for the existance of any supernatural being, I
offer my prayer not to a hypothetical supernatural being but to
living people everywhere. I pray to you that you will try to
understand both the methodology and the major findings of science,
and that you will provide increased funding to support scientific
research and education. In particular, every student of every
school, regardless of religious belief, needs to have a basic
understanding of reproduction, genetics, replication of the genome,
mistakes in replication, neutral drift, natural selection, and the
longterm consequences of all those processes occurring
simultaneously on a planet that has always been changing landscape
due to plate tektonics volcanism and weathering. I pray that each
of you will obtain a transcript of this prayer and go on the
InterNet to look up any term you don't yet understand."

... said Reid, a Mormon ...

After he's invited speakers representing all the various religions,
I hope he invites speakers representing all the various sects of
the major religions, and has each offer a prayer that is very
specific to that particular sect and antagonistic to all the other
sects of the same religion. For example, a Morman prayer would
quote from the Book of Mormon some passage that goes against
mainstream Christian beliefs, and a Catholic prayer would
specifically hail Mary mother of God and praise the Pope as
infallible and praise twenty or thirty specific saints, and a
Shiite prayer would make statements totally antagonistic to Sunnis.
The most fun would be the fundamentalist Agostic prayer, condemning
all claims that there is or is not a god, because it's absolutely
impossible for any mere mortal to know such a thing, and the Zen prayer.

--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
.



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