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Religions > Atheism |
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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16 Jul 2005 04:03:58 PM |
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GOP Senators Puts Karl Rove Before National Security |
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
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http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/7/14/171728/869
GOP Senators Vote AGAINST taking away security clearance for people to
leak national security information for fun.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1760 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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18 Jul 2005 07:04:08 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:09:07 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:52:12 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"chibiabos" <chib@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:170720050915001117%chib@nospam.com...
In article <umtCe.4902$oZ.4422@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>, John
Tibbs <jwtibbs@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3rsid1hb29hj7qitdf9clc7l4nqr8rkmhl@4ax.com...
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
I try to avoid spelling flames but the juxtaposition of "stupidity" and
"ennate" in that reply is just too precious to pass up.
-chib
So you have a spell checker...so what?
Such NeoCon self-serving-rationalization. Shows your innate
dishonesty.
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Warped Sense of Humor
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
I bet that at least one word is misspelled in this reply. I'm willing
to bet billions of US dollars, or my life on it.
TheRain
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: GOP Senators Puts Karl Rove Before National Security |
17 Jul 2005 01:08:27 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:50:18 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3rsid1hb29hj7qitdf9clc7l4nqr8rkmhl@4ax.com...
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1760 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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| Title: Re: GOP Senators Puts Karl Rove Before National Security |
17 Jul 2005 01:54:23 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:2i7ld118sgi2e46rd3mitd5mf4n0vnd5n3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:50:18 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3rsid1hb29hj7qitdf9clc7l4nqr8rkmhl@4ax.com...
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here. I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn about
humanity, sonny.
jt
--
Without the second amendment
the first amendment means nil.
www.townhall.com
www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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17 Jul 2005 02:07:35 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:54:23 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:2i7ld118sgi2e46rd3mitd5mf4n0vnd5n3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:50:18 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3rsid1hb29hj7qitdf9clc7l4nqr8rkmhl@4ax.com...
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
Of course not, you just suck their cocks.
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn about
humanity, sonny.
jt
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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| Title: Re: GOP Senators Puts Karl Rove Before National Security |
17 Jul 2005 05:15:55 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:t2bld1tsfb80pfh2cmtni9g6ivo7jecvgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:54:23 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:2i7ld118sgi2e46rd3mitd5mf4n0vnd5n3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:50:18 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3rsid1hb29hj7qitdf9clc7l4nqr8rkmhl@4ax.com...
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
--
Without the second amendment
the first amendment means nil.
www.townhall.com
www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org >
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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17 Jul 2005 06:14:53 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:15:55 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:t2bld1tsfb80pfh2cmtni9g6ivo7jecvgi@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:54:23 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:2i7ld118sgi2e46rd3mitd5mf4n0vnd5n3@4ax.com...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:50:18 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:3rsid1hb29hj7qitdf9clc7l4nqr8rkmhl@4ax.com...
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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| Title: Re: GOP Senators Puts Karl Rove Before National Security |
18 Jul 2005 08:17:31 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
Book Review: Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine
Billed as the stories that Bill Clinton left out of My Life, Jackson
uncovers the trail of bribes, threats, and intimidation that Clinton's inner
circle leveled at the women who got in their way.
Try it. I'll bet you won't.
jt
--
Without the second amendment
the first amendment means nil.
www.townhall.com
www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:54:21 AM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:17:31 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
[yawn
Go to www.huffingtonpost.com so you can pull your head out of your
*****.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "John Tibbs" |
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18 Jul 2005 10:42:55 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:43dnd1l1iqt2ascd1edbmhm8o2d2ep81b8@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:17:31 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to
learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
[yawn
Go to www.huffingtonpost.com so you can pull your head out of your
*****.
You suggestion sucks as I've been to Arianna's sites before. Even her ex
sucks (literally)
jt
--
Without the second amendment
the first amendment means nil.
www.townhall.com
www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:50:43 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:42:55 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:43dnd1l1iqt2ascd1edbmhm8o2d2ep81b8@4ax.com...
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:17:31 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to
learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
[yawn
Go to www.huffingtonpost.com so you can pull your head out of your
*****.
You suggestion sucks as I've been to Arianna's sites before.
Like how they were the first to break the Rove story?
Even her ex sucks (literally)
We'll just have to forgive Michael Huffington for being am
self-loathing, erstwhile Republican.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1767 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "" |
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18 Jul 2005 07:07:56 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:54:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:17:31 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
[yawn
Go to www.huffingtonpost.com so you can pull your head out of your
*****.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
Man, this Tibbs guy is a lulu.
TheRain
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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18 Jul 2005 08:49:40 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:56 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:54:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:17:31 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
[yawn
Go to www.huffingtonpost.com so you can pull your head out of your
*****.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
Man, this Tibbs guy is a lulu.
NeoCons, Aren't they all?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1767 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "" |
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19 Jul 2005 08:51:18 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:49:40 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:07:56 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:54:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:17:31 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" > >> >> >
Fucking NeoCon traitors.
Such liberal language. Shows your ennate stupidity.
jt
Ah, the entelligence of the NeoCons.
No neocon here.
(No response liberal vulgarity deleted)
I have been a conservative ever since I noticed the
dishonesty of our news media circa 1960. You have got a lot to learn
about
humanity, sonny.
jt
Still need to learn a lot, boy.
So I can have as ennately entelligent as you?
Go to www.townhall.com and learn something.
[yawn
Go to www.huffingtonpost.com so you can pull your head out of your
*****.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1763 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
Man, this Tibbs guy is a lulu.
NeoCons, Aren't they all?
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them. Must have to do with religious brain doping. We can't
shoot them, bomb them, we can only vote. We can try to get sanity in
the voting process.
We the sane MUST do something. I don't have kids, I have friends who
do, I think I can live out my life in apathy knowing that changes will
be slow and take affect after I'm dead. But, DAMMIT I'm pissed that
they've gotten this far in destroying the USA and I'll devote time to
countering it, and encouraging others to do so, begging them to really
put their brain to work and come up with better solutions than I can
and push them with the necessary ardor, zeal and spizzerinctum.
To any federal agency that may read this - note I typed "we can't
shoot them, bomb them" and I mean that. Your terrorists are
elsewhere. You find them. I don't know where they are. It seems you,
too, are at a loss at finding them, despite all the technology you
must have: what do you expect me to do? I *certainly will report any
terror cell if I stumble into any of them, or get a credible tip.
Maybe you should take a tip from England, they seem to have rounded up
lots of info, some key people, and are on the case, quite rapidly,
too, despite their admission that they considered themselves rather
safe from any terrorist attack 3 weeks ago.
And the USA is still lost in a war that stimulates instead of abates
terrorist activity like bombings?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1767 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
TheRain
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20 Jul 2005 10:36:09 AM |
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From www.townhall.com
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
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Dear friends,
From www.townhall.com
Tonight, President Bush named John G. Roberts Jr. as his nominee to the
Supreme Court. Why did he make the announcement during prime time? The
President took his pick straight to the American people before a fight
breaks out in Washington, because he wants you involved in this battle.
Townhall has the way to do it.
It is very rare that regular Americans get to make an impact on the
composition of the highest court in the land. You can make a difference now
with just a few minutes and the click of a mouse.
By putting your signature on Townhall’s petition, you can join
thousands of other Townhall readers dedicated to putting a judicial
conservative on the Court—a conservative who will faithfully interpret the
Constitution and the laws of our country without legislating from the bench.
Judge Roberts is that person.
jt
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the first amendment means nil.
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20 Jul 2005 11:06:37 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Real Americans don't tolerate vote fraud: only
traitors against the USA want to cheat voters.
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20 Jul 2005 12:10:36 PM |
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From www.townhall.com
Dear friends,
Tonight, President Bush named John G. Roberts Jr. as his nominee to the
Supreme Court. Why did he make the announcement during prime time? The
President took his pick straight to the American people before a fight
breaks out in Washington, because he wants you involved in this battle.
Townhall has the way to do it.
It is very rare that regular Americans get to make an impact on the
composition of the highest court in the land. You can make a difference now
with just a few minutes and the click of a mouse.
By putting your signature on Townhall’s petition, you can join
thousands of other Townhall readers dedicated to putting a judicial
conservative on the Court—a conservative who will faithfully interpret the
Constitution and the laws of our country without legislating from the bench.
Judge Roberts is that person.
jt
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Without the second amendment
the first amendment means nil.
www.townhall.com
www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org
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20 Jul 2005 02:44:00 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Real Americans don't tolerate vote fraud: only
traitors against the USA want to cheat voters.
Notice the desperation of the bushworshipper
to try to distract attention from the affront to
democratic elections in the USA.
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20 Jul 2005 05:29:03 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:36:27 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Fraud only accounted for just enough to install Bush. Enough dopes had
to vote for him for it to BE that close. Of course, we don't know how
much fraud was and is in reserve to use if needed.
Of course, you are correct about machines - they MUST be mechanical
with a physical output medium that seniors (they are the ones
volunteering their time at the polls) can handle, not computers.
Corruption existed since voting began but the crooks had to be there.
With a computer network, corruption can hit all polls in 300
milliseconds or so. And, could we see the servers? NO - only the
crooks would have the clearance.
TheRain
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From www.townhall.com
Can the liberals learn from Vietnam?
Emmett Tyrrell (archive)
July 20, 2005 | Print | Recommend to a friend
Washington -- When retired Gen. William Westmoreland (Ret.) died this week
in Charleston, S.C., the press erupted with reminiscences, mostly about him
and the Vietnam War, mostly permeated with the myths of the Kultursmog , the
politically-polluted culture of our elites, our liberal elites. After
Vietnam the general spent the rest of his life refighting the war. He never
learned that it was a war we could not win. He was a failure. These are
three of the foul thoughts that pollute the liberals' culture and were
repeated in many of his obituaries.
I knew Westmoreland later in life, not as a general but as a private
citizen. For years he served on the board of The American Spectator. He was
interested in journalism. He felt many American journalists did a pretty
shabby job in covering the military. When a CBS News documentary, "The
Uncounted Enemy: A Vietnam Deception," claimed in 1982 that he, as the
commanding officer in Vietnam, had engaged in a "conspiracy" to "suppress"
unfavorable intelligence and dupe America into believing we were winning the
war, Westmoreland sued. CBS, after four painful months, admitted to grievous
error and settled out of court. The general felt vindicated, but I doubt he
ever felt fully satisfied. Somehow, he could not accept that American
journalists would get the facts so wrong and apply the paranoid scheme of a
"conspiracy" to his generalship.
The old general I knew at American Spectator board meetings and other
events was as incapable of conspiracy as he was incapable of bad manners. He
was a thorough gentleman. Far from being consumed by Vietnam, he never
mentioned it unless one of his fellow board members brought it up. Nor did
he talk much about military matters or his own illustrious military service.
He had breezed through the Citadel and West Point, where in his last year he
received the Pershing Sword for achieving the highest command position in
the student body. He went on to fight valiantly through WWII in Europe. In
Korea he commanded paratroopers and late in his career, insisted on leaping
out of airplanes. I once asked him why, as a relatively old man, he
attempted such derring-do. If his young troopers could do it, he told me, he
wanted to, also. And I remember his smile in answering my question.
He was a perfect gentleman, but he was also a can-do kind of guy. Most of
our soldiers are. Westmoreland was also a fount of good sense. There was a
serene quality to him, and far from being preoccupied with anything from
Vietnam to politics, he always struck me as level-headed and sagacious. At
the magazine, we have always prided ourselves in developing younger
generations of clear-headed journalists, and that seemed to be an interest
of his. With regard to the Vietnam War, he thought many of the journalists
had gotten it wrong, but I could only get that judgment out of him when I
brought the matter up.
The war was never a military defeat, he believed. It was a political
defeat. The politicians did not have the stomach for victory. What burned
them most badly was the 1968 Tet Offensive, during which the North
Vietnamese launched a massive offensive that temporarily put them in control
of critical parts of the country. Westmoreland instantly counterattacked,
vanquishing the enemy and leaving 40,000 dead to the one thousand we lost.
In military terms, it was equivalent to Gen. Andrew Jackson's victory over
the British at New Orleans, but the journalists reported it as a defeat, and
so it was recorded for years.
Actually, now historians are noting that in military terms, Tet was the
Communists' defeat. Our armies never lost in Vietnam, and Vietnam only fell
after our armies had been withdrawn and our politicians reneged on their
promise to resupply the South Vietnamese and bomb the North Vietnamese in
the event of further aggression against the South. In the end the Vietnam
War was very useful to the defense of American interests. Westmoreland's
forces held off Communist designs on the Pacific rim, showed Moscow and
Beijing that continued aggression would be costly, and demonstrated the
superiority of American military hardware and tactics, a demonstration that
did not escape the Communists' notice, particularly in Moscow. Vietnam was
the last time the Communists mounted such an assault.
Yet back home the liberal politicians and their intelligentsia were
whipped. They never again regained their resolve. Even today, after the
American military's demonstration of its effectiveness in Afghanistan and
Iraq, these bearers of the Kultursmog are revealing their defeatist nature.
In Vietnam they demanded that we negotiate with Hanoi. Today the Taliban and
the insurgents in Iraq offer no such opportunities to negotiate.
Nonetheless, the liberals are increasingly calling for withdrawal before our
interests are realized. One wonders: Can they screw things up as nicely as
they screwed up Vietnam?
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20 Jul 2005 08:31:00 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:29:03 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:36:27 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Fraud only accounted for just enough to install Bush. Enough dopes had
to vote for him for it to BE that close. Of course, we don't know how
much fraud was and is in reserve to use if needed.
Good point.
Competent deceptions keep the margins close.
There were also all the lies used to dupe those
most weakminded and susceptible.
Of course, you are correct about machines - they MUST be mechanical
with a physical output medium that seniors (they are the ones
volunteering their time at the polls) can handle, not computers.
All the laws can be met with voter-verified,
hand-counted paper ballots, as shown to be
more reliable than electronics. They're not
perfect, but it takes more and more obvious
effort to tamper with them.
There are good electronic methods for the
disabled to use sip-puff and audio to fill out
optically-scannable permanent paper ballots
as well as to confirm them, separately.
Then they can be tabulated for rapid results
with the scanners, then hand-counted by the
local, sworn, trusted officials on videotape
for the final counts and recounts.
Corruption existed since voting began but the crooks had to be there.
With a computer network, corruption can hit all polls in 300
milliseconds or so. And, could we see the servers? NO - only the
crooks would have the clearance.
TheRain
Voting systems must be public property,
and all details of design, manufacture,
programming, and operation open
and confirmable.
There is no justification for forcing voters
to use equipment built, 'tested' and used
in total secrecy.
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21 Jul 2005 07:04:12 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:31:00 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:29:03 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:36:27 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Fraud only accounted for just enough to install Bush. Enough dopes had
to vote for him for it to BE that close. Of course, we don't know how
much fraud was and is in reserve to use if needed.
Good point.
Competent deceptions keep the margins close.
There were also all the lies used to dupe those
most weakminded and susceptible.
Of course, you are correct about machines - they MUST be mechanical
with a physical output medium that seniors (they are the ones
volunteering their time at the polls) can handle, not computers.
All the laws can be met with voter-verified,
hand-counted paper ballots, as shown to be
more reliable than electronics. They're not
perfect, but it takes more and more obvious
effort to tamper with them.
There are good electronic methods for the
disabled to use sip-puff and audio to fill out
optically-scannable permanent paper ballots
as well as to confirm them, separately.
I haven't thought about such machines for the disabled - Haven't seen
one. As long as a physical, readable, unhackable ballot that reflects
that voters intention, it must be OK. Here we have the booths, where
you close the curtain, pull the levers for the party or individual
candidate, open the curtain and the vote registers. No secret
electronics to hack or hide.
Then they can be tabulated for rapid results
with the scanners, then hand-counted by the
local, sworn, trusted officials on videotape
for the final counts and recounts.
I'm with you there.
Corruption existed since voting began but the crooks had to be there.
With a computer network, corruption can hit all polls in 300
milliseconds or so. And, could we see the servers? NO - only the
crooks would have the clearance.
TheRain
Voting systems must be public property,
and all details of design, manufacture,
programming, and operation open
and confirmable.
Without question.
There is no justification for forcing voters
to use equipment built, 'tested' and used
in total secrecy.
Secrecy on the part of government is just bad.
And they usurp our privacy with such things as the alleged "patriot"
act, and tell us not to worry if we have nothing to hide. Codswallop.
Maybe ALL of us should go to
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_downloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
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| User: "* US *" |
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21 Jul 2005 09:16:25 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:04:12 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:31:00 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:29:03 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:36:27 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Fraud only accounted for just enough to install Bush. Enough dopes had
to vote for him for it to BE that close. Of course, we don't know how
much fraud was and is in reserve to use if needed.
Good point.
Competent deceptions keep the margins close.
There were also all the lies used to dupe those
most weakminded and susceptible.
Of course, you are correct about machines - they MUST be mechanical
with a physical output medium that seniors (they are the ones
volunteering their time at the polls) can handle, not computers.
All the laws can be met with voter-verified,
hand-counted paper ballots, as shown to be
more reliable than electronics. They're not
perfect, but it takes more and more obvious
effort to tamper with them.
There are good electronic methods for the
disabled to use sip-puff and audio to fill out
optically-scannable permanent paper ballots
as well as to confirm them, separately.
I haven't thought about such machines for the disabled - Haven't seen
one. As long as a physical, readable, unhackable ballot that reflects
that voters intention, it must be OK. Here we have the booths, where
you close the curtain, pull the levers for the party or individual
candidate, open the curtain and the vote registers. No secret
electronics to hack or hide.
The disabled are being abused as patsies for the
dishonest vendors. Diebold bought the AAPD
for ten million for a building. Their new *****
is a 'blind' guy, Jim Dickson, who's going around
telling people that they'd need DRE electronics for
the disabled, which is an outright lie.
It's important to note that the disabled voters can
be accommodated optimally without any secret
proprietary paperless electronic systems.
Then they can be tabulated for rapid results
with the scanners, then hand-counted by the
local, sworn, trusted officials on videotape
for the final counts and recounts.
I'm with you there.
The local folks could use the work.
Corruption existed since voting began but the crooks had to be there.
With a computer network, corruption can hit all polls in 300
milliseconds or so. And, could we see the servers? NO - only the
crooks would have the clearance.
TheRain
Voting systems must be public property,
and all details of design, manufacture,
programming, and operation open
and confirmable.
Without question.
Thanks for understanding.
There is no justification for forcing voters
to use equipment built, 'tested' and used
in total secrecy.
Secrecy on the part of government is just bad.
And they usurp our privacy with such things as the alleged "patriot"
act, and tell us not to worry if we have nothing to hide. Codswallop.
Maybe ALL of us should go to
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_downloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
Superb site. Thanks for posting it.
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22 Jul 2005 10:42:17 AM |
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More on Politics and Elections
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From www.townhall.com
I agree, let's not let the Rove story die just yet
David Limbaugh (archive)
July 22, 2005 | Print | Recommend to a friend
Before President Bush's Supreme Court nomination of Judge John Roberts
completely overshadows the misidentified Karl Rove scandal, I think we
better take a second look at the twisted direction this sad story has taken.
As far as Karl Rove's conduct in the Plame/Wilson affair, there is no
scandal. He didn't come close to committing a crime, nor even an ethical
infraction.
He didn't set out to expose a CIA operative, much less an undercover one.
He was the recipient of a phone call in which he cautioned Time's Matt
Cooper not to be taken in by the politically driven Joe Wilson, whose
operative wife, Valerie Plame, had played a great role in securing Wilson's
"fact-finding" trip to Niger.
Rove, who didn't even mention Plame's name, couldn't have known she was an
undercover CIA agent -- because she wasn't. He manifestly wasn't motivated
to expose her for the purpose of punishing Wilson -- because "exposing" her
non-covert status couldn't possibly have damaged her.
But Rove did have a motive to share his information with Cooper: to warn
him of the nepotistic connection between Plame and Wilson and to thus take
Wilson's claims with a grain of salt.
Rove did nothing wrong. Indeed, he had an obligation to alert Cooper to
Wilson's chicanery because, among other reasons, questions of our national
security were involved. As the president's right-hand man, shouldn't we
expect Rove to do his part to correct the record about a matter so serious:
whether Saddam was trying to or did acquire uranium from Niger?
The media and Democrats seem to be saying that we can't let Rove off the
hook just because he might not have technically violated the law. He must be
fired or at the very least lose his security clearance because of his
indiscretion.
But there was no indiscretion. Plame was not undercover and hadn't been.
She had no secret status to protect. Neither she nor her husband -- it
appears -- even treated her status as clandestine. Rove isn't getting off on
a technicality. He did nothing wrong. The fact that the allegations against
Rove are so serious doesn't change that -- and in no way taints his
credibility -- because the allegations are false.
"But there was a leak," cry the Democrats and the press. "President Bush
has always said he had a zero-tolerance policy for leaks out of his
administration. He must fire the evil Karl Rove."
Even conservative pundits seem to be falling for this ploy. But if there
was nothing secret about Plame's status, if there was nothing to protect,
there could have been no leak.
Rove talked about her position for the purpose of showing the nefarious
link between her and her husband -- and thus the dubiousness of Wilson's
supposed findings. He "leaked" nothing. Why is simple English so difficult
for people? You can't leak that which is already in the public domain.
But the cockeyed slant on this non-story is masking the real story here,
which is not just that Joe Wilson was caught red-handed lying about his wife
recommending him and the nature of his actual findings. The real story is
the treachery of Wilson in distorting his findings for political purposes to
the detriment of our national security.
According to the Senate Intelligence Committee, Wilson's findings did more
to bolster than discredit the Brits' allegation that Saddam was trying to
buy uranium from Niger. When he misrepresented those findings -- while
working to elect John Kerry -- he consciously damaged our national security
by tainting the historical record against America and her image. And what
role, if any, did the CIA play in allowing itself to be manipulated for
political purposes?
The fact that Democrats and the media are so desperate to bring down Karl
Rove, the perceived primary mastermind behind their glorious loss of
influence and power, respectively, apparently blinds them to their effective
collusion with Wilson in his reckless conduct against this nation. And their
non-stop bluster is apparently keeping the rest of us from focusing on it as
well.
They are so determined to prove that President Bush lied about weapons of
mass destruction in Iraq they're obviously willing to use discredited
sources and data to make their case.
Let's not move beyond this story without noting the robust irony it
contains. The same people who routinely (and baselessly) accuse President
Bush of having fraudulently played the national security card in furtherance
of his agenda to remove Saddam are demanding Karl Rove be fired because he
can't be trusted in a sensitive national security position.
But it is these people, in their shameless elevation of Joe Wilson -- among
other things -- who are complicit in sacrificing our national security
interests for their own political agenda.
David Limbaugh is a syndicated columnist who blogs at DavidLimbaugh.com
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22 Jul 2005 11:42:40 AM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:04:12 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:31:00 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:29:03 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:36:27 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Fraud only accounted for just enough to install Bush. Enough dopes had
to vote for him for it to BE that close. Of course, we don't know how
much fraud was and is in reserve to use if needed.
Good point.
Competent deceptions keep the margins close.
There were also all the lies used to dupe those
most weakminded and susceptible.
Of course, you are correct about machines - they MUST be mechanical
with a physical output medium that seniors (they are the ones
volunteering their time at the polls) can handle, not computers.
All the laws can be met with voter-verified,
hand-counted paper ballots, as shown to be
more reliable than electronics. They're not
perfect, but it takes more and more obvious
effort to tamper with them.
There are good electronic methods for the
disabled to use sip-puff and audio to fill out
optically-scannable permanent paper ballots
as well as to confirm them, separately.
I haven't thought about such machines for the disabled - Haven't seen
one. As long as a physical, readable, unhackable ballot that reflects
that voters intention, it must be OK. Here we have the booths, where
you close the curtain, pull the levers for the party or individual
candidate, open the curtain and the vote registers. No secret
electronics to hack or hide.
The disabled are being abused as patsies for the
dishonest vendors. Diebold bought the AAPD
for ten million for a building. Their new *****
is a 'blind' guy, Jim Dickson, who's going around
telling people that they'd need DRE electronics for
the disabled, which is an outright lie.
It's important to note that the disabled voters can
be accommodated optimally without any secret
proprietary paperless electronic systems.
Then they can be tabulated for rapid results
with the scanners, then hand-counted by the
local, sworn, trusted officials on videotape
for the final counts and recounts.
I'm with you there.
The local folks could use the work.
Corruption existed since voting began but the crooks had to be there.
With a computer network, corruption can hit all polls in 300
milliseconds or so. And, could we see the servers? NO - only the
crooks would have the clearance.
TheRain
Voting systems must be public property,
and all details of design, manufacture,
programming, and operation open
and confirmable.
Without question.
Thanks for understanding.
There is no justification for forcing voters
to use equipment built, 'tested' and used
in total secrecy.
Secrecy on the part of government is just bad.
And they usurp our privacy with such things as the alleged "patriot"
act, and tell us not to worry if we have nothing to hide. Codswallop.
Maybe ALL of us should go to
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_downloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
Superb site. Thanks for posting it.
Notice that the bushworshipper fears this reality, too.
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22 Jul 2005 10:28:56 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:16:25 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:04:12 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:31:00 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:29:03 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:36:27 -0400, * US * wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:51:18 -0400, wrote:
Yep! That's why I go berserk trying to understand how so many people
vote for them...
They don't. Bush relies on vote fraud.
If Americans don't rid themselves of paperless
electronic voting systems, they'll be rid of their
futures instead.
Fraud only accounted for just enough to install Bush. Enough dopes had
to vote for him for it to BE that close. Of course, we don't know how
much fraud was and is in reserve to use if needed.
Good point.
Competent deceptions keep the margins close.
There were also all the lies used to dupe those
most weakminded and susceptible.
Of course, you are correct about machines - they MUST be mechanical
with a physical output medium that seniors (they are the ones
volunteering their time at the polls) can handle, not computers.
All the laws can be met with voter-verified,
hand-counted paper ballots, as shown to be
more reliable than electronics. They're not
perfect, but it takes more and more obvious
effort to tamper with them.
There are good electronic methods for the
disabled to use sip-puff and audio to fill out
optically-scannable permanent paper ballots
as well as to confirm them, separately.
I haven't thought about such machines for the disabled - Haven't seen
one. As long as a physical, readable, unhackable ballot that reflects
that voters intention, it must be OK. Here we have the booths, where
you close the curtain, pull the levers for the party or individual
candidate, open the curtain and the vote registers. No secret
electronics to hack or hide.
The disabled are being abused as patsies for the
dishonest vendors. Diebold bought the AAPD
for ten million for a building. Their new *****
is a 'blind' guy, Jim Dickson, who's going around
telling people that they'd need DRE electronics for
the disabled, which is an outright lie.
It's important to note that the disabled voters can
be accommodated optimally without any secret
proprietary paperless electronic systems.
Then they can be tabulated for rapid results
with the scanners, then hand-counted by the
local, sworn, trusted officials on videotape
for the final counts and recounts.
I'm with you there.
The local folks could use the work.
Corruption existed since voting began but the crooks had to be there.
With a computer network, corruption can hit all polls in 300
milliseconds or so. And, could we see the servers? NO - only the
crooks would have the clearance.
TheRain
Voting systems must be public property,
and all details of design, manufacture,
programming, and operation open
and confirmable.
Without question.
Thanks for understanding.
There is no justification for forcing voters
to use equipment built, 'tested' and used
in total secrecy.
Secrecy on the part of government is just bad.
And they usurp our privacy with such things as the alleged "patriot"
act, and tell us not to worry if we have nothing to hide. Codswallop.
Maybe ALL of us should go to
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_downloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
Superb site. Thanks for posting it.
I'm glad you appreciate it, I've posted the links before, and after a
few months the links I bookmarked changes to "not found" so I (we)
have to google on NARA +constitution and wiggle thru it to find the
actual document again. It's almost as if they are shifting it around
to deter people from finding it, as it is the forbidden truth. Ain't
it scary that they make it difficult to find the Constitution of the
USA?
When the Democrats ran things, that site stayed there, now it's like a
shell game. Naturally it is "to improve the site" which somehow makes
it harder to find the Constitution.
Playing on apathy there and it stinks worse than a skunk.
So we have shiftiness re accessing the Constitution and slippery
siding on the voting process now that the Bush crime syndicate
controls our access. Actually it's the world bank, because even the
ever powerful oil companies running the USA gummint has to put their
money somewhere.
Do you trust the organization that holds ALL the money?
How come the wealthy people's stock dealings make them wealthier while
the stock you and I buy loses? Where does the lost money go? it isn't
burned or shredded, it doesn't disappear, It still exists, but it
isn't ours anymore. it goes to the insiders that run Wall street.
And they burn Martha Stewart while Kennyboy Lay freely lives richly
above US law.
TheRain
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23 Jul 2005 08:05:57 AM |
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<TheRain@storm.net> wrote in message
news:8tc3e1duut0j2mtjmrgvd0m02adcpssf1i@4ax.com...
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_dow
nloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
Superb site. Thanks for posting it.
I'm glad you appreciate it, I've posted the links before, and after a
few months the links I bookmarked changes to "not found" so I (we)
have to google on NARA +constitution and wiggle thru it to find the
actual document again. It's almost as if they are shifting it around
to deter people from finding it, as it is the forbidden truth. Ain't
it scary that they make it difficult to find the Constitution of the
USA?
I've had no difficulty in finding the constitution. But then I am familiar
with it. Apparently you are not and can't find YOUR version of it.
When the Democrats ran things, that site stayed there, now it's like a
shell game. Naturally it is "to improve the site" which somehow makes
it harder to find the Constitution.
Sites are always being dropped for various reasons.
Playing on apathy there and it stinks worse than a skunk.
(Remaining Leftist propaganda deleted for reasons of responsibility and
honesty)
jt
--
Without the second amendment
the first amendment means nil.
www.townhall.com
www.newsmax.com
www.nranews.org
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23 Jul 2005 04:56:56 PM |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:05:57 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
<TheRain@storm.net> wrote in message
news:8tc3e1duut0j2mtjmrgvd0m02adcpssf1i@4ax.com...
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_dow
nloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
Superb site. Thanks for posting it.
I'm glad you appreciate it, I've posted the links before, and after a
few months the links I bookmarked changes to "not found" so I (we)
have to google on NARA +constitution and wiggle thru it to find the
actual document again. It's almost as if they are shifting it around
to deter people from finding it, as it is the forbidden truth. Ain't
it scary that they make it difficult to find the Constitution of the
USA?
I've had no difficulty in finding the constitution. But then I am familiar
with it. Apparently you are not and can't find YOUR version of it.
When the Democrats ran things, that site stayed there, now it's like a
shell game. Naturally it is "to improve the site" which somehow makes
it harder to find the Constitution.
Sites are always being dropped for various reasons.
Playing on apathy there and it stinks worse than a skunk.
(Remaining Leftist propaganda deleted for reasons of responsibility and
honesty)
jt
Tibbs, I am not talking about a politically biased junk website that
gets shut down.
I'm talking about the National Archives and Records Administration of
the United States of America.
http://search.nara.gov/
Why should the saved link to the constitution and bill of rights
become invalid every few months?
TheRain
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23 Jul 2005 05:40:39 PM |
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<TheRain@storm.net> wrote in message
news:ere5e11oum58gqdb0a889d14hognu5e6ve@4ax.com...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:05:57 GMT, "John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net>
wrote:
<TheRain@storm.net> wrote in message
news:8tc3e1duut0j2mtjmrgvd0m02adcpssf1i@4ax.com...
http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/charters_do
w
nloads.html
download all the text and send it to our representitives.
See if they recognize it.
TheRain
Superb site. Thanks for posting it.
I'm glad you appreciate it, I've posted the links before, and after a
few months the links I bookmarked changes to "not found" so I (we)
have to google on NARA +constitution and wiggle thru it to find the
actual document again. It's almost as if they are shifting it around
to deter people from finding it, as it is the forbidden truth. Ain't
it scary that they make it difficult to find the Constitution of the
USA?
I've had no difficulty in finding the constitution. But then I am
familiar
with it. Apparently you are not and can't find YOUR version of it.
When the Democrats ran things, that site stayed there, now it's like a
shell game. Naturally it is "to improve the site" which somehow makes
it harder to find the Constitution.
Sites are always being dropped for various reasons.
Playing on apathy there and it stinks worse than a skunk.
(Remaining Leftist propaganda deleted for reasons of responsibility and
honesty)
jt
Tibbs, I am not talking about a politically biased junk website that
gets shut down.
I'm talking about the National Archives and Records Administration of
the United States of America.
http://search.nara.gov/
Why should the saved link to the constitution and bill of rights
become invalid every few months?
TheRain
Just look up "USConstitution" on any search engine.
jt
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