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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Fred Stone"
Date: 26 Oct 2005 09:32:24 AM
Object: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun
http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/PSIREPORTGallowayOct05FINAL.pdf
I. EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
On May 17, 2005, British Member of Parliament George Galloway appeared
before the U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations (the
“Subcommittee”) and testified under oath regarding evidence obtained by
the Subcommittee that he solicited and received financial support from
Iraq under the United Nations Oil-for-Food Program (the “Program”).
Specifically, Galloway denied that he solicited and was granted
lucrative allocations of Iraqi crude oil under the Program and denied
that anyone did so on his behalf. He also denied that he or anyone else
solicited oil allocations as a means of raising funds for the Mariam
Appeal – Galloway’s political campaign opposing the U.N. sanctions
imposed upon Iraq. Because Galloway’s testimony and sweeping denials
conflicted with the Subcommittee’s evidence and May 12, 2005 Report, the
Subcommittee continued its inquiry into the matter to test the veracity
of Galloway’s claims. Since the May hearing, the Subcommittee has
obtained additional evidence establishing that the Hussein regime
granted oil allocations to Galloway and the Mariam Appeal. This Report,
prepared by the Majority staff of the Subcommittee,1 presents evidence
establishing that:
1. Galloway personally solicited and was granted oil
allocations from the Government of Iraq during the reign of Saddam
Hussein. The Hussein regime granted Galloway and the Mariam Appeal eight
allocations totaling 23 million barrels from 1999 through 2003;
2. Galloway’s wife, Dr. Amineh Abu-Zayyad, received approximately
$150,000 in connection with one of those oil allocations;
3. Galloway’s political campaign, the Mariam Appeal, received at least
$446,000 in connection with the oil allocations granted to Galloway and
the Mariam Appeal under the Oil-for-Food Program;
4. The Hussein regime received improper “surcharge” payments amounting
to $1,642,000.65 in connection with the oil allocations granted to
Galloway and the Mariam Appeal; and
5. Galloway knowingly made false or misleading statements under oath
before the Subcommittee at its hearing on May 17, 2005;
Evidence supporting each of the preceding findings is presented in
detail below. That evidence includes: (1) Documents, including bank
account information and wire transfers, establishing that Fawaz
Zureikat, a Jordanian businessman and close friend of Galloway, received
money in connection with an oil allocation under the Oil-for-Food
Program and transferred a significant portion of that money to
Galloway’s wife and Galloway’s political campaign, the Mariam Appeal;
(2) Testimony from Tariq Aziz in which Aziz describes in detail his
discussions with Galloway concerning oil allocations, including
Galloway’s request for allocations and his subsequent request to
increase the amount of oil allocated to him and his political
organization, the Mariam Appeal; (3) Documents created by the Iraqi
Ministry of Oil, including records created during the Hussein regime
that were authenticated by the Minister of Oil; (4) Documents created by
senior Hussein officials detailing Galloway’s efforts to obtain
financial support from the Hussein regime for his political campaign,
including documents that were authenticated by Tariq Aziz and Ali Hasan
al-Majid; (5) Interviews with an oil trader stating that he discussed
the oil allocation process with Galloway, and that “[Galloway] told me
that, if he were to obtain an oil allocation, he would contact us
directly or indirectly” and that “[Galloway] said he or his
representative in Iraq would contact [me] in connection with the sale of
an allocation;” and (6) Written affirmation from a second oil trader who
negotiated with Galloway’s agent for the purchase of Galloway’s oil
allocation.
[read the whole thing]
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The next time someone on the left wants a date for
withdrawal from Iraq, ask them for a date to give
up on diplomacy with Iran. The Iraq date will be a month
after the Iran date which will be 1 day before Iran is invaded."
- Stehpinkeln
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User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 17 Nov 2005 06:52:55 PM
In article <Xns96FB6B54DE179fstone69@213.155.197.138>, fstone69
@earthling.com says...

http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/PSIREPORTGallowayOct05FINAL.pdf

Fred, not that you are on speaking terms with the truth or that any of
Coleman's debunked evidence is anything new, but let me ask you this
anyway. If Saddam wanted to buy influence with Galloway for some
nonsensical reason then why the ***** didn't he just pay him in cash?
Saddam certainly had enough cash in his back pocket to pay the sums
alleged here. So why would Saddam use or Galloway accept some
convoluted paper trail of payments when there were so much easier ways
of doing business?
--
"If you think your belief is based upon reason, you will support
it by argument rather than by persecution... But if your belief is
based upon faith, you will realize that argument is useless, and
will therefore resort to force."--Bertrand Russell
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 17 Nov 2005 07:08:26 PM
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1de6d3c54b8a0c8698968c@news.readfreenews.net:

In article <Xns96FB6B54DE179fstone69@213.155.197.138>, fstone69
@earthling.com says...

http://hsgac.senate.gov/_files/PSIREPORTGallowayOct05FINAL.pdf


Fred, not that you are on speaking terms with the truth or that any of
Coleman's debunked evidence is anything new, but let me ask you this
anyway.

Cites, if you please.

If Saddam wanted to buy influence with Galloway for some
nonsensical reason then why the ***** didn't he just pay him in cash?
Saddam certainly had enough cash in his back pocket to pay the sums
alleged here. So why would Saddam use or Galloway accept some
convoluted paper trail of payments when there were so much easier ways
of doing business?

Same reason criminals launder money - to make it harder to trace the
source.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
.
User: "quibbler"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 17 Nov 2005 08:05:11 PM
In article <Xns9711CD03F80D5fstone69@213.155.197.138>, fstone69
@earthling.com says...

Same reason criminals launder money

BZZZZZZT. It wouldn't "launder" the money to try to pass it through the
oil for food program. It would make it look even dirtier. The point
that you spectacularly failed to grasp is that if saddam had given
Galloway the cash then there would be nothing to trace and Galloway
could have easily "laundered" it for real himself without relying upon a
mass murdering dictator like saddam to clean up the money for him, if
that's even possible. Certainly one imagines that there would be no
need for documents describing these allegedly clandestine attempts to
buy influence. Try to use your brain for once in your life. This would
be like the mafia filing out forms in triplicate every time they wanted
to "whack" somebody.

- to make it harder to trace the
source.

Only it didn't make it harder at all. In fact, it rather conveniently
made it far easier, what with these forged documents that Coleman
purports to show Zureikat (not Galloway) transacting business.



--
"If you think your belief is based upon reason, you will support
it by argument rather than by persecution... But if your belief is
based upon faith, you will realize that argument is useless, and
will therefore resort to force."--Bertrand Russell
.
User: "Katt"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 18 Nov 2005 04:10:36 AM
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1de6e4c194ba46d198968f@news.
Quib,
I suppose you know about the acknowledged fact that there have been forged
documents floating about from the start...?
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jul2003/gall-j05.shtml
And this is a real corker!!
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php4?article_id=6511
Katt.
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User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 17 Nov 2005 08:21:32 PM
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1de6e4c194ba46d198968f@news.readfreenews.net:

In article <Xns9711CD03F80D5fstone69@213.155.197.138>, fstone69
@earthling.com says...

Oh, hey, where's the cites about how Coleman's charges are refuted?


Same reason criminals launder money


BZZZZZZT. It wouldn't "launder" the money to try to pass it through
the oil for food program. It would make it look even dirtier. The
point that you spectacularly failed to grasp is that if saddam had
given Galloway the cash then there would be nothing to trace and
Galloway could have easily "laundered" it for real himself without
relying upon a mass murdering dictator like saddam to clean up the
money for him, if that's even possible.

It gives Saddam a handle on Galloway with potential blackmail if
Gorgeous George doesn't come through on his end of the deal.

Certainly one imagines that
there would be no need for documents describing these allegedly
clandestine attempts to buy influence. Try to use your brain for once
in your life. This would be like the mafia filing out forms in
triplicate every time they wanted to "whack" somebody.

Shoot, quibbler, you should read more mafia stories. They don't just
give out bribes without keeping something for leverage in case the
bribee doesn't stay bought.



- to make it harder to trace the
source.


Only it didn't make it harder at all. In fact, it rather conveniently
made it far easier, what with these forged documents that Coleman
purports to show Zureikat (not Galloway) transacting business.

Only because of the invasion of Iraq, which made all those *NOT* forged
documents available. And you missed the larger point - besides the
Zureikat connection, this has reopened several other major cans of worms
for the old Stalinist.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
.


User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 18 Nov 2005 01:21:59 PM
TV's Fred Stone wrote:

Same reason criminals launder money - to make it harder to trace the
source.

Is that why Tom DeLay did it?
--
aa #2133
ap #19
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Gorgeous George and the Smoking Gun 18 Nov 2005 01:57:53 PM
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:jNWdnfvN1KlHtOPenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@centurytel.net:

TV's Fred Stone wrote:

Same reason criminals launder money - to make it harder to trace the
source.


Is that why Tom DeLay did it?

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/artfuldodger.htm
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"I actually think what we learned during the inspection
made Iraq a more dangerous place, potentially, than,
in fact, we thought it was even before the war." -- David Kay
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6075
.





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