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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Fred Stone" |
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04 Sep 2005 10:09:12 AM |
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Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
....Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
(D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a
proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of
the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency
operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration
of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive
behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off
taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything
on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to
speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances
under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains
of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor
and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As
of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the
senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White House
spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any form of
bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from the
federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the state's
victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency Management Agency
director in the Clinton administration, to advise her on the relief
effort...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 01:22:22 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125846553.7c31e4367f13a98277890149c460022a@teranews...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
...Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
(D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a
proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of
the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency
operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration
of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive
behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off
taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything
on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to
speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances
under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains
of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor
and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As
of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the
senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White House
spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any form of
bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from the
federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the state's
victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency Management Agency
director in the Clinton administration, to advise her on the relief
effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
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High Priestess Bastet of the Unchurch Temple of Si & Am
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 01:46:05 PM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125846553.7c31e4367f13a98277890149c460022a@teranews...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
...Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux
Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration
sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal
takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the
state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal
declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a
political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been
able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have
blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have
the authority to speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil
disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to
unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the
Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said.
As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency,
the senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White
House spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any
form of bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of
Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from
the federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the
state's victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency
Management Agency director in the Clinton administration, to advise
her on the relief effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’ - Howard Dean
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| User: "Arturo Magidin" |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 03:47:18 PM |
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In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems to
have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a State
of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section 206.36,
I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the
State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V Hurricane
approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28,
2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State Emergency
Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401 of the
Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in
order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and the
remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources to
be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal anticipated
for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission assignment
for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far as
coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this month
in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a single go
for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help from
federal or federalized troops occurred.
--
======================================================================
"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
======================================================================
Arturo Magidin
magidin@math.berkeley.edu
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 05:21:38 PM |
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(Arturo Magidin) wrote in news:dffmgm$154p$1
@agate.berkeley.edu:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems to
have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a State
of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section 206.36,
I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the
State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V Hurricane
approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28,
2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State Emergency
Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401 of the
Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in
order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and the
remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources to
be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal anticipated
for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission assignment
for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far as
coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this month
in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a single go
for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help from
federal or federalized troops occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot of
conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington Post
got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "Mark Stahl" |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 07:26:05 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125872498.262d064beb589219e56b97e404d21984@teranews...
magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote in news:dffmgm$154p$1
@agate.berkeley.edu:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems to
have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a State
of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section 206.36,
I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the
State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V Hurricane
approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28,
2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State Emergency
Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401 of the
Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in
order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and the
remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources to
be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal anticipated
for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission assignment
for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far as
coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this month
in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a single go
for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help from
federal or federalized troops occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot of
conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington Post
got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
:::faints:::
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 09:00:03 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:21:38 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote in news:dffmgm$154p$1
@agate.berkeley.edu:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems to
have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a State
of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section 206.36,
I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the
State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V Hurricane
approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28,
2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State Emergency
Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401 of the
Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in
order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and the
remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources to
be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal anticipated
for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission assignment
for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far as
coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this month
in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a single go
for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help from
federal or federalized troops occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot of
conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington Post
got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started
that lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 10:27:08 PM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:43c8a605.1387217265@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:21:38 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote in news:dffmgm$154p$1
@agate.berkeley.edu:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems
to have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a
State of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made
landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section
206.36, I request that you declare an expedited major disaster
for the State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V
Hurricane approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on
August 28, 2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State
Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401
of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the
State in order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and
the remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources
to be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal
anticipated for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission
assignment for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far
as coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this
month in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a
single go for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help
from federal or federalized troops occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot of
conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington Post
got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started
that lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
Official spokesmen have names.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’ - Howard Dean
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Governor Blanco Failed To Act |
04 Sep 2005 10:48:05 PM |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 03:27:08 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
cobalt@newscene.com (Kate ) wrote in
news:43c8a605.1387217265@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:21:38 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote in news:dffmgm$154p$1
@agate.berkeley.edu:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems
to have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a
State of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made
landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section
206.36, I request that you declare an expedited major disaster
for the State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V
Hurricane approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on
August 28, 2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State
Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401
of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the
State in order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and
the remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources
to be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal
anticipated for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission
assignment for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far
as coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this
month in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a
single go for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help
from federal or federalized troops occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot of
conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington Post
got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started
that lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
Official spokesmen have names.
I've almost never seen them named in news releases. Your point?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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05 Sep 2005 07:19:06 AM |
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(Kate ) wrote in
news:43ccbed5.1393569218@news-west.newscene.com:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 03:27:08 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
(Kate ) wrote in
news:43c8a605.1387217265@news-west.newscene.com:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:21:38 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote in
news:dffmgm$154p$1 @agate.berkeley.edu:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have
delayed getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It
seems to have been originated by someone who looked to see if
Blanco had declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she
declared a State of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the
Hurricane made landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C.
sections 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT
section 206.36, I request that you declare an expedited major
disaster for the State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a
Category V Hurricane approaches our coast south of New Orleans;
beginning on August 28, 2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State
Emergency Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section
401 of the Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued
for the State in order to support the evacuation of the coastal
areas and the remainder of the state to support the State
Evacuation and Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to
save lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government
resources to be able to accomplish the volume of debris
removal anticipated for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission
assignment for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC
42, relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as
far as coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as
early as Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana
National Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from
Iraq this month in several waves be expedited to return
immediately and in a single go for relief; but I do not know when
other requests for help from federal or federalized troops
occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot
of conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington
Post got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started
that lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
Official spokesmen have names.
I've almost never seen them named in news releases. Your point?
The WaPo paraphrased some unnamed "senior White House official". It
wasn't even a direct quote. I should have known better than to take it
at face value. So should you.
--
Fred Stone
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I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’ - Howard Dean
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04 Sep 2005 11:24:44 PM |
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In episode <43c8a605.1387217265@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate burst into
the room and exclaimed:
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started that
lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
Got? No. Spread? Yes.
They know this looks *very bad. They're spinning fast enough now to power
a medium sized city...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
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05 Sep 2005 08:09:16 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 23:24:44 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
wrote:
In episode <43c8a605.1387217265@news-west.newscene.com>, Kate burst into
the room and exclaimed:
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started that
lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
Got? No. Spread? Yes.
They know this looks *very bad. They're spinning fast enough now to power
a medium sized city...
Now come on, biblo, drop the undefined hatred. President Bush is a great
President. He'll be in New Orleans again today.
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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05 Sep 2005 02:13:44 PM |
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*President Bush is a great President.
Of course, Puke, you realize that with such sentences, you have
absolutely NO credibility and sound like a goose-stepping no brain
moron...
To describe Bush as "great" shows that you're either the biggest moron
on this continent (yes, even bigger than Dumbya himself) or the biggest
troll.
In both cases, why don't you just shut the ***** up.
Better: why don't you go help...
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07 Sep 2005 10:49:27 AM |
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On 4 Sep 2005 21:00:03 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:21:38 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
magidin@math.berkeley.edu (Arturo Magidin) wrote in news:dffmgm$154p$1
@agate.berkeley.edu:
[]
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far as
coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this month
in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a single go
for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help from
federal or federalized troops occurred.
OK, that does seem to be in order, yes, thank you. There are a lot of
conflicting stories floating around, it looks like the Washington Post
got some wrong information. I'll make a note of that.
The Washington Post was quoting a white house spokesman who started
that lie. It looks like the white house got some wrong information.
The Brown House [former White House] got the right information and
excreted the usual shiite.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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07 Sep 2005 10:47:44 AM |
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 20:47:18 +0000 (UTC),
(Arturo Magidin) wrote:
In article <1125859568.2b9056541affd2e1df9d197d7bfaa1d6@teranews>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
[.snip.]
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until Wednesday?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
I've seen the "not declared a state of emergency" thing... It seems to
have been originated by someone who looked to see if Blanco had
declared it after the hurricane passed. In fact, she declared a State
of Emergency on August 26 (Friday before the Hurricane made landfall).
In a letter dated August 28 (that would be Sunday, before the
hurricane made landfall, Governor Blanco wrote to President Bush,
though the appropriate channels (in this case, the FEMA Region VI
director in Texas). She writes, in part:
"Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. sections
5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFT section 206.36,
I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the
State of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V Hurricane
approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28,
2005, and continuing.[...]
"In response to the situation, I have taken appropriate action
under State law and directed the exsecution of the State Emergency
Plan on August 26, 2005, in accordance with Section 401 of the
Stafford Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in
order to support the evacuation of the coastal areas and the
remainder of the state to support the State Evacuation and
Sheltering Plan.
[...]
"I request direct Federal assitance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) We do not anticipate State and local government resources to
be able to accomplish the volume of debris removal anticipated
for this disaster.
(b) We are requesting a direct debris removal mission assignment
for Hurricane Katrina."
You can see a full text transcript at
http://www.newschannel6.tv/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=8601
The letter seems to me (based on a cursory glancing through USC 42,
relevant sections) to include all that needs to be included as far as
coordination and so-on-and-so-forth with FEMA. Also, as early as
Monday, Blanco had officially requested that a Louisiana National
Guard unit that was scheduled to be brought back from Iraq this month
in several waves be expedited to return immediately and in a single go
for relief; but I do not know when other requests for help from
federal or federalized troops occurred.
Tracking Katrina: Blanco Requests Federal State of Emergency
Saturday, August 27, 2005
From the NewsChannel 6 Storm Spotting Team:
Governor Blanco requested $9,000,000 and a federal state of emergency
declared Saturday. She sent the following letter to President Bush:
Dear Mr. President:
Under the provisions of Section 501 (a) of the Robert T. Stafford
Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 U.S.C. §§ 5121-5206
(Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR § 206.35, I request that you
declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane
Katrina for the time period beginning August 26, 2005, and continuing.
The affected areas are all the southeastern parishes including the New
Orleans Metropolitan area and the mid state Interstate I-49 corridor
and northern parishes along the I-20 corridor that are accepting the
thousands of citizens evacuating from the areas expecting to be
flooded as a result of Hurricane Katrina.
In response to the situation I have taken appropriate action under
State law and directed the execution of the State Emergency Plan on
August 26, 2005 in accordance with Section 501 (a) of the Stafford
Act. A State of Emergency has been issued for the State in order to
support the evacuations of the coastal areas in accordance with our
State Evacuation Plan and the remainder of the state to support the
State Special Needs and Sheltering Plan.
Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is
of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the
capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that
supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect
property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat
of a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective
measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program
(IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris
removal.
Preliminary estimates of the types and amount of emergency assistance
needed under the Stafford Act, and emergency assistance from certain
Federal agencies under other statutory authorities are tabulated in
Enclosure A.
The following information is furnished on the nature and amount of
State and local resources that have been or will be used to alleviate
the conditions of this emergency:
.. Department of Social Services (DSS): Opening (3) Special Need
Shelters (SNS) and establishing (3) on Standby.
.. Department of Health and Hospitals (DHH): Opening (3) Shelters and
establishing (3) on Standby.
.. Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness (OHSEP):
Providing generators and support staff for SNS and Public Shelters.
.. Louisiana State Police (LSP): Providing support for the phased
evacuation of the coastal areas.
.. Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries (WLF): Supporting the
evacuation of the affected population and preparing for Search and
Rescue Missions.
Mr. President
Page Two
August 27, 2005
.. Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD):
Coordinating traffic flow and management of the evacuations routes
with local officials and the State of Mississippi.
The following information is furnished on efforts and resources of
other Federal agencies, which have been or will be used in responding
to this incident:
.. FEMA ERT-A Team en-route.
I certify that for this emergency, the State and local governments
will assume all applicable non-Federal share of costs required by the
Stafford Act.
I request Direct Federal assistance for work and services to save
lives and protect property.
(a) List any reasons State and local government cannot perform or
contract for performance, (if applicable).
(b) Specify the type of assistance requested.
In accordance with 44 CFR § 206.208, the State of Louisiana agrees
that it will, with respect to Direct Federal assistance:
1. Provide without cost to the United States all lands, easement, and
rights-of-ways necessary to accomplish the approved work.
2. Hold and save the United States free from damages due to the
requested work, and shall indemnify the Federal Government against any
claims arising from such work;
3. Provide reimbursement to FEMA for the non-Federal share of the cost
of such work in accordance with the provisions of the FEMA-State
Agreement; and
4. Assist the performing Federal agency in all support and local
jurisdictional matters.
In addition, I anticipate the need for debris removal, which poses an
immediate threat to lives, public health, and safety.
Pursuant to Sections 502 and 407 of the Stafford Act, 42 U.S.C. §§
5192 & 5173, the State agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the
United States of America for any claims arising from the removal of
debris or wreckage for this disaster. The State agrees that debris
removal from public and private property will not occur until the
landowner signs an unconditional authorization for the removal of
debris.
I have designated Mr. Art Jones as the State Coordinating Officer for
this request. He will work with the Federal Emergency Management
Agency in damage assessments and may provide further information or
justification on my behalf.
Sincerely,
Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
Governor
Enclosure
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:46:05 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125846553.7c31e4367f13a98277890149c460022a@teranews...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
...Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux
Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration
sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal
takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the
state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal
declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a
political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been
able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could have
blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not have
the authority to speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil
disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to
unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the
Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said.
As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency,
the senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White
House spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any
form of bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of
Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from
the federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the
state's victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency
Management Agency director in the Clinton administration, to advise
her on the relief effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until Wednesday?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050903/ap_on_re_us/katrina_national_guard
She didn't.
Can you stop spreading the false information now, please?
Not declaring a state of emergency? Playing CYA games with FEMA?
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04 Sep 2005 03:30:01 PM |
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Adam H. <adam@mailinator.com> wrote in
news:d1hmh1d1a1qakm614orvo0cr9tjmcudc9d@4ax.com:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 18:46:05 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125846553.7c31e4367f13a98277890149c460022a@teranews...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
...Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal
officials tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen
Babineaux Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush
administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to
request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a
source within the state's emergency operations center said
Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal
declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a
political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been
able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could
have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does
not have the authority to speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil
disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to
unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the
Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said.
As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency,
the senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White
House spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any
form of bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of
Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from
the federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the
state's victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency
Management Agency director in the Clinton administration, to advise
her on the relief effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
Smart moves? Delaying the request for Guard assistance until
Wednesday?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050903/ap_on_re_us/katrina_national_guard
She didn't.
Can you stop spreading the false information now, please?
We seem to have conflicting reports from different news outlets.
http://governor.state.nm.us/press.php?id=120
August 30, 2005
Billy Sparks (505) 476-2299
New Mexico Urban Search and Rescue Team
Deployed to Louisiana
New Mexico Emergency Operations Center Coordinating Assistance with the
National Guard, Department of Health and State Police
Santa Fe- Governor Bill Richardson has ordered 200 members of the New
Mexico National Guard to aid in the hurricane relief effort.
“The New Mexico National Guard has extensive experience in disaster
relief and after my discussions with Governor Blanco; I have ordered two
hundred members of the New Mexico National Guard to leave immediately.
Last night, the New Mexico Urban Search and Rescue Team departed for
Baton Rouge, the federal and state staging area for eight to ten Strike
Force teams for specific instructions,” Governor Richardson said.
“I spoke with Louisiana Governor Blanco and offered whatever help we
could. The total dimensions of the disaster are still unknown. But, it
is clear they need all the help they can get and the New Mexico teams
are ready and able to provide immediate assistance. They are highly
capable and well trained. The National Guard and the Department of
Public Safety have valuable experience that can be put to immediate use
in the impacted areas,” Governor Richardson said.
“We will continue to maintain contact with state and federal officials
and respond to their requests for aid as we are able. Our hearts go out
to all the victims, their families and the communities,” Governor
Richardson said.
New Mexico Urban Search and Rescue Team Deployed for Hurricane
Assistance
Santa Fe—Governor Richardson authorized the deployment of the New Mexico
Task Force 1 called up for service yesterday by FEMA. The Urban Search
and Rescue (USAR) team departed last night and is now en route to Baton
Rouge, Louisiana where they will stage with other teams to begin highly
specialized and skilled search and rescue missions.
--
Fred Stone
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I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’ - Howard Dean
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04 Sep 2005 03:24:08 PM |
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In episode <isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com>,
Michelle Malkin burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125846553.7c31e4367f13a98277890149c460022a@teranews...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
...Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco
(D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration sent her a
proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of
the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency
operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration
of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a political motive
behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been able to pull off
taking it away from the locals, they then could have blamed everything
on the locals," said the source, who does not have the authority to
speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil disturbances
under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to unify the chains
of command that are split among the president, the Louisiana governor
and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said. As
of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the
senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White House
spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any form of
bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from the
federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the state's
victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency Management Agency
director in the Clinton administration, to advise her on the relief
effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed getting
food and water to the people affected.
We ask for help, we get told we have to hand over our state.
Well, Bush did say (more than once) things would be "easier" if he were a
dictator...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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04 Sep 2005 05:06:05 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:Br2dna6Ttsp5yobeRVn-ig@megapath.net:
In episode <isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com>,
Michelle Malkin burst into the room and exclaimed:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1125846553.7c31e4367f13a98277890149c460022a@teranews...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
...Behind the scenes, a power struggle emerged, as federal officials
tried to wrest authority from Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux
Blanco (D). Shortly before midnight Friday, the Bush administration
sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal
takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the
state's emergency operations center said Saturday.
The administration sought unified control over all local police and
state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana
officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night,
concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal
declaration of martial law. Some officials in the state suspected a
political motive behind the request. "Quite frankly, if they'd been
able to pull off taking it away from the locals, they then could
have blamed everything on the locals," said the source, who does not
have the authority to speak publicly.
A senior administration official said that Bush has clear legal
authority to federalize National Guard units to quell civil
disturbances under the Insurrection Act and will continue to try to
unify the chains of command that are split among the president, the
Louisiana governor and the New Orleans mayor.
Louisiana did not reach out to a multi-state mutual aid compact for
assistance until Wednesday, three state and federal officials said.
As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency,
the senior Bush official said.
"The federal government stands ready to work with state and local
officials to secure New Orleans and the state of Louisiana," White
House spokesman Dan Bartlett said. "The president will not let any
form of bureaucracy get in the way of protecting the citizens of
Louisiana."
Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from
the federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the
state's victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency
Management Agency director in the Clinton administration, to advise
her on the relief effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed
getting food and water to the people affected.
We ask for help, we get told we have to hand over our state.
So don't blame the Feds for your politicians' inability to cooperate
with them.
Well, Bush did say (more than once) things would be "easier" if he
were a dictator...
No kidding.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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07 Sep 2005 10:51:58 AM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:24:08 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <isidnZ2dnZ2OPU72nZ2dncGmht6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com>,
Michelle Malkin burst into the room and exclaimed:
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Blanco made two moves Saturday that protected her independence from the
federal government: She created a philanthropic fund for the state's
victims and hired James Lee Witt, Federal Emergency Management Agency
director in the Clinton administration, to advise her on the relief
effort...
All very smart moves on her part. It still shouldn't have delayed getting
food and water to the people affected.
We ask for help, we get told we have to hand over our state.
Well, Bush did say (more than once) things would be "easier" if he were a
dictator...
Bush dictates;
{drooling giggle} Die, oh yes, die, via wind, water, disease,
violence, starvation or dehydration. {hefty body-wracking orgasm}
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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04 Sep 2005 05:22:21 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:24:08 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster>
wrote:
We ask for help, we get told we have to hand over our state.
Well, Bush did say (more than once) things would be "easier" if he were a
dictator...
Federal law is federal law, bilbo.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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04 Sep 2005 09:50:00 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
The Washington Post...Moonie crap.
James
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04 Sep 2005 10:26:07 PM |
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In episode <snOSe.6329$Wd7.3312@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, James
Ascher burst into the room and exclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
The Washington Post...Moonie crap.
No, I believe the Moonies own the Washington Times.
But it's also ***** that Blanco "failed to act." Blanco requested
assistance on August 26th. The Friday *before landfall. And Bush declared
us a disaster area then. The feds were *fully *authorized to act.
Apparently, they did not *want to act unless they could be tin pot
dictators and run the whole show. Something they never seemed to ask *Jeb*
for...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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05 Sep 2005 07:15:05 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:naqdnZg0iqNUJ4beRVn-pw@megapath.net:
In episode <snOSe.6329$Wd7.3312@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
James Ascher burst into the room and exclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR200
5090301680.html
The Washington Post...Moonie crap.
No, I believe the Moonies own the Washington Times.
But it's also ***** that Blanco "failed to act." Blanco requested
assistance on August 26th. The Friday *before landfall. And Bush
declared us a disaster area then. The feds were *fully *authorized to
act.
Apparently, they did not *want to act unless they could be tin pot
dictators and run the whole show. Something they never seemed to ask
*Jeb* for...
That's ridiculous, Mark. They need certain authority to be able to
direct operations. I'd have thought that your blame-shifting Democrat
role-models would be happy to give up all the responsibility.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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05 Sep 2005 11:15:33 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
I'd have thought that your blame-shifting Democrat
role-models would be happy to give up all the
responsibility.
....said "Fred Stone," explaining why all the blame
for Bush's (most recent) performance disaster should
be placed on the Democrats.
There's irony, and then there's IRONY!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 05:55:44 AM |
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In episode <nv6dne8lMZUciIDeRVn-sA@comcast.com>, JTEM burst into the room
and exclaimed:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote
I'd have thought that your blame-shifting Democrat role-models would be
happy to give up all the responsibility.
....said "Fred Stone," explaining why all the blame
for Bush's (most recent) performance disaster should be placed on the
Democrats.
There's irony, and then there's IRONY!
They're actually trying to shift the blame to the victims of the biggest
natural disaster in US history but it's the *other guys who like to shift
blame.
Yeah, okay. Sure.
You know, if we're going to be abandoned, I'm not sure the rest of the
country deserves that 20-25% of US production in oil that passes
through here. Maybe we're just *too *busy to refine it and ship it...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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06 Sep 2005 11:42:04 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
They're actually trying to shift the blame to the victims of the
biggest natural disaster in US history but it's the *other guys
who like to shift blame.
George Bush according to his, um, "supporters":
"Not present, not on duty and definitely NOT in charge. So,
how on Earth can he be responsible for anything?"
All I want them to tell me is when George Bush takes office,
and when he starts being responsible for the things that happen
under his watch.
Year six, maybe?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2005 12:35:46 PM |
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In episode <x5udncrJEoflWYDeRVn-rA@comcast.com>, JTEM burst into the room
and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote
They're actually trying to shift the blame to the victims of the biggest
natural disaster in US history but it's the *other guys who like to
shift blame.
George Bush according to his, um, "supporters":
"Not present, not on duty and definitely NOT in charge. So,
how on Earth can he be responsible for anything?"
All I want them to tell me is when George Bush takes office, and when he
starts being responsible for the things that happen under his watch.
Year six, maybe?
First he has to finish spinning in the fun chair...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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04 Sep 2005 10:49:02 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:26:07 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <snOSe.6329$Wd7.3312@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, James
Ascher burst into the room and exclaimed:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html
The Washington Post...Moonie crap.
No, I believe the Moonies own the Washington Times.
But it's also ***** that Blanco "failed to act." Blanco requested
assistance on August 26th. The Friday *before landfall. And Bush declared
us a disaster area then. The feds were *fully *authorized to act.
Apparently, they did not *want to act unless they could be tin pot
dictators and run the whole show. Something they never seemed to ask *Jeb*
for...
And it wasn't the Post that said she didn't act. It was quoting the
white house.
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| User: "Arturo Magidin" |
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04 Sep 2005 10:56:52 PM |
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In article <43cdbfcb.1393815812@news-west.newscene.com>,
Kate <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:26:07 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
[.snip.]
But it's also ***** that Blanco "failed to act." Blanco requested
assistance on August 26th. The Friday *before landfall. And Bush declared
us a disaster area then. The feds were *fully *authorized to act.
Apparently, they did not *want to act unless they could be tin pot
dictators and run the whole show. Something they never seemed to ask *Jeb*
for...
And it wasn't the Post that said she didn't act. It was quoting the
white house.
Let's be precise. The Post quotes "a senior administration official",
not the White House; we don't even know if this person was in the
White House, the Pentagon, or where. It is this "senior Bush official"
who is quoted as saying that "As of Saturday, Blanco still had not
declared a state of emergency."
That person was certainly making a false claim, at least in that
respect. That paragraph is followed immediately by a direct quote from
White House spokesman Dan Bartlett, perhaps allowing for some
confusion as to who said what.
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"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
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Arturo Magidin
magidin@math.berkeley.edu
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