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Great grandmother pregnant with twins |
59-Year-Old Set to Give Birth to Twins
Thu Nov 11,11:05 PM ET
By ELLIOTT MINOR, Associated Press Writer
SYLVESTER, Ga. - A 59-year-old great-grandmother is pregnant with twins and
will deliver next month, three decades after she had her tubes tied. "They
came untied," Frances Harris said Thursday.
The multiple birth Dec. 21 would break the purported record set this week by
a 56-year-old New York City mother of twins.
Harris, of rural Sylvester, Ga., said she wasn't trying to get pregnant -
and didn't realize she was - until she started gaining weight and went to
see her doctor.
"A lot of things changed about me," she said. "I started craving grapes and
apples, things I don't usually crave. By then I was four months pregnant."
When the doctor broke the news, "They had to sit me down. I couldn't even
talk," she said.
The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33 years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Harris had her first child when she was 15; 44 years will separate her
first-born from the newborns. She was divorced years ago from the twins'
father, 60-year-old Raymond Harris, a heavy equipment operator. She said
they will remarry before the birth.
The oldest American believed to have given birth to twins is Aleta St.
James, a single mother who turns 57 on Friday. She gave birth Tuesday by
in-vitro fertilization at New York City's Mount Sinai Medical Center.
Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web
sites) show 263 children were born to women between ages 50 and 54 in 2002.
The oldest American to give birth is Arceli Keh, of California, who was 63
when she had a daughter in 1996.
Harris said some family members, concerned about health complications, had
suggested she end the pregnancy.
"I couldn't live with myself," she said. "I pray we all three pull through.
When they're so little, they're so beautiful. I think they are God's gift."
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041112/ap_on_re_us/pregnant_at59_6
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12 Nov 2004 12:38:21 PM |
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"Lisa" <lisa@home.sweet.home.net> wrote:
59-Year-Old Set to Give Birth to Twins
Thu Nov 11,11:05 PM ET
By ELLIOTT MINOR, Associated Press Writer
SYLVESTER, Ga. - A 59-year-old great-grandmother is pregnant with twins and
will deliver next month, three decades after she had her tubes tied. "They
came untied," Frances Harris said Thursday.
The multiple birth Dec. 21 would break the purported record set this week by
a 56-year-old New York City mother of twins.
Harris, of rural Sylvester, Ga., said she wasn't trying to get pregnant -
and didn't realize she was - until she started gaining weight and went to
see her doctor.
"A lot of things changed about me," she said. "I started craving grapes and
apples, things I don't usually crave. By then I was four months pregnant."
When the doctor broke the news, "They had to sit me down. I couldn't even
talk," she said.
The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33 years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Harris had her first child when she was 15; 44 years will separate her
first-born from the newborns. She was divorced years ago from the twins'
father, 60-year-old Raymond Harris, a heavy equipment operator. She said
they will remarry before the birth.
The oldest American believed to have given birth to twins is Aleta St.
James, a single mother who turns 57 on Friday. She gave birth Tuesday by
in-vitro fertilization at New York City's Mount Sinai Medical Center.
Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web
sites) show 263 children were born to women between ages 50 and 54 in 2002.
The oldest American to give birth is Arceli Keh, of California, who was 63
when she had a daughter in 1996.
Harris said some family members, concerned about health complications, had
suggested she end the pregnancy.
"I couldn't live with myself," she said. "I pray we all three pull through.
When they're so little, they're so beautiful. I think they are God's gift."
"When they're so little they're so beautiful" and then they grow up to
be murderers and thieves.
Some gift from "God"!
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041112/ap_on_re_us/pregnant_at59_6
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12 Nov 2004 10:22:52 AM |
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The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33
years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Yikes!!
Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web
sites) show 263 children were born to women between ages 50 and 54 in
2002.
The oldest American to give birth is Arceli Keh, of California, who was 63
when she had a daughter in 1996.
Hmmmm, maybe I WILL have more!!
"I couldn't live with myself," she said. "I pray we all three pull
through.
When they're so little, they're so beautiful. I think they are God's
gift."
Can't wait to tell my mother. She'll get a kick out of this. She probably
feels like a new mom now since she is such an active caretaker of Morgan.
~Carol Ann
59...that's amazing!!
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12 Nov 2004 10:40:46 AM |
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"Carol Ann" <lowcarber@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wr5ld.330008$wV.135818@attbi_s54...
The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33
years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Yikes!!
Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day before
her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks like it was
meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make sure they have
plenty of birth control handy. I had my tubes tied four years ago and this
has me going "uh oh" :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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12 Nov 2004 12:35:36 PM |
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Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day
before
her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks like it
was
meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make sure they
have
plenty of birth control handy. I had my tubes tied four years ago and
this
has me going "uh oh" :)
what's a SIL?
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i'm rich beyotch! toot toot.
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12 Nov 2004 01:19:17 PM |
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"Michael" <KareemOfweet840@hotmail.noncommie> wrote in message
news:Yn7ld.26$J55.17@trnddc06...
Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day
before
her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks like it
was
meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make sure they
have
plenty of birth control handy. I had my tubes tied four years ago and
this
has me going "uh oh" :)
what's a SIL?
Sister-in-law.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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12 Nov 2004 12:39:07 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:35:36 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, "Michael"
<KareemOfweet840@hotmail.noncommie> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... > Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day
... before
... > her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks like it
... was
... > meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make sure they
... have
... > plenty of birth control handy. I had my tubes tied four years ago and
... this
... > has me going "uh oh" :)
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... what's a SIL?
Sister In Law.
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12 Nov 2004 12:09:37 PM |
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ubject: Re: Great grandmother pregnant with twins
From: "Robibnikoff"
Date: 11/12/2004 11:40 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <2vk7ceF2k1d43U1@uni-berlin.de>
"Carol Ann" <lowcarber@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wr5ld.330008$wV.135818@attbi_s54...
The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33
years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Yikes!!
Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day before
her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks like it was
meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make sure they have
plenty of birth control handy. I had my tubes tied four years ago and this
has me going "uh oh" :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Uh oh is right. I've been relying on the tied tubes option myself for many
years. I'm only a grandma, not yet a great grandma, but I couldn't imagine
being pregnant again at this point. It makes me hope I hit menopause before
Bush has a chance to nominate a Supreme Court justice.
Lana (who has been grateful for 14 years that her youngest wasn't twins)
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| User: "Jez" |
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13 Nov 2004 12:14:29 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Carol Ann" <lowcarber@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wr5ld.330008$wV.135818@attbi_s54...
The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33
years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Yikes!!
Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day before
her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks like it was
meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make sure they have
plenty of birth control handy.
I had my tubes tied four years ago and this
has me going "uh oh" :)
'Had my tubes tied'.......aw man...that sounds so bad....
Reminds me of something I've seen on a farm...urgh...
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Porsche Unleashed, Hot Pursuit 2, Underground.
Yeowww
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13 Nov 2004 06:32:28 AM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:7dGdnRvpLrIdOwjcRVnyiQ@pipex.net...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Carol Ann" <lowcarber@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:wr5ld.330008$wV.135818@attbi_s54...
The news was even more shocking considering Harris - the mother of five,
grandmother of 14 and great-grandmother of six - had her tubes tied 33
years
ago after the birth of her youngest child.
Yikes!!
Yikes indeed. One of my SILs just found out she was pregnant the day
before her 40th birthday. She's not the happiest of campers, but looks
like it was meant to be. Of course, my other SILs are scrambling to make
sure they have plenty of birth control handy.
I had my tubes tied four years ago and this has me going "uh oh" :)
'Had my tubes tied'.......aw man...that sounds so bad....
Reminds me of something I've seen on a farm...urgh...
Oh please. It's nothing like that! :)
My husband wouldn't do it, so I had to take over :)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "EvelynVogtGambleDivamanque" |
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14 Nov 2004 01:56:10 PM |
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Lisa wrote:
59-Year-Old Set to Give Birth to Twins
Thu Nov 11,11:05 PM ET
Fascinating, but how did this get cross-posted to
rec.travel.europe?
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12 Nov 2004 11:16:09 PM |
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So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
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12 Nov 2004 11:27:12 PM |
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"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
In large families, that's not all that uncommon -- my father is 22 years
older than his yougest sister, so I have an aunt seven years older than me. I
married the youngest daughter whose other five siblings were spread over 16
years before her, so I have a sister-in-law who's three years younger than my
mother, and my late father-in-law (who died in 1991) was born two weeks before
my maternal grandfather -- and oldest SIL has a son, my nephew, who is nine
months younger than me.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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13 Nov 2004 03:20:32 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkwtwqnwsv.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and
then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
In large families, that's not all that uncommon -- my father is 22 years
older than his yougest sister, so I have an aunt seven years older than
me. I
married the youngest daughter whose other five siblings were spread over
16
years before her, so I have a sister-in-law who's three years younger than
my
mother, and my late father-in-law (who died in 1991) was born two weeks
before
my maternal grandfather -- and oldest SIL has a son, my nephew, who is
nine
months younger than me.
Uhm, I'll need a flowchart before I can parse that all out!
Raptor514
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Carol Ann" |
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13 Nov 2004 08:57:01 AM |
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--
Carol Ann
www.lowcarblosers.com ~ Home of the Monthly Weightloss Challenge!!
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and
then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you
are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
In large families, that's not all that uncommon -- my father is 22 years
older than his yougest sister, so I have an aunt seven years older than
me. I
married the youngest daughter whose other five siblings were spread over
16
years before her, so I have a sister-in-law who's three years younger
than
my
mother, and my late father-in-law (who died in 1991) was born two weeks
before
my maternal grandfather -- and oldest SIL has a son, my nephew, who is
nine
months younger than me.
Uhm, I'll need a flowchart before I can parse that all out!
Raptor514
Ditto!
~Carol Ann
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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13 Nov 2004 12:11:52 PM |
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Raptor514 wrote:
"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkwtwqnwsv.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and
then---you end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years
YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
In large families, that's not all that uncommon -- my father is 22
years older than his yougest sister, so I have an aunt seven years
older than me. I married the youngest daughter whose other five
siblings were spread over 16 years before her, so I have a
sister-in-law who's three years younger than my mother, and my late
father-in-law (who died in 1991) was born two weeks before my
maternal grandfather -- and oldest SIL has a son, my nephew, who is
nine months younger than me.
Uhm, I'll need a flowchart before I can parse that all out!
Clearly explained at http://users.cis.net/sammy/grandpa.htm
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15 Nov 2004 05:18:11 AM |
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"Patrick Lee Humphrey" <patrick@io.com> wrote in message
news:szkwtwqnwsv.fsf@fnord.io.com...
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and
then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
In large families, that's not all that uncommon -- my father is 22 years
older than his yougest sister, so I have an aunt seven years older than
me. I
married the youngest daughter whose other five siblings were spread over
16
years before her, so I have a sister-in-law who's three years younger than
my
mother, and my late father-in-law (who died in 1991) was born two weeks
before
my maternal grandfather -- and oldest SIL has a son, my nephew, who is
nine
months younger than me.
Why does this get me humming, "I'm my own grandpaw"?
Jenrose
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16 Nov 2004 05:41:15 PM |
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He's right - people who have large families often have them over many
years. For example, my husband's grandmother was the youngest of
children, and her oldest sib was 25 years older than her. I do
genealogy as a hobby, and in past generations you see the pattern very
strongly dictated by reproductive biology and breastfeeding - they
popped kids out every 2 years or so, and so if they started when they
were 18, they were still having babies wat 38 when they were grandmas.
My mother's mother was the oldest of her mother's 10 children - and
thus, my mom grew up with aunts who were very close to her in age.
And on the other hand, my widowed grandfather remarried later in life
(funny thing how people rarely complain about MEN who choose to have
kids when they are older), and had a second family. My "uncle" Dave is
8 years younger than me.
No biggie. Just the stuff that happens while we're all making other
plans!
Mary G.
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14 Nov 2004 12:33:43 PM |
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Patrick Lee Humphrey <patrick@io.com> wrote in message news:<szkwtwqnwsv.fsf@fnord.io.com>...
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> writes:
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
In large families, that's not all that uncommon -- my father is 22 years
older than his yougest sister, so I have an aunt seven years older than me. I
married the youngest daughter whose other five siblings were spread over 16
years before her, so I have a sister-in-law who's three years younger than my
mother, and my late father-in-law (who died in 1991) was born two weeks before
my maternal grandfather -- and oldest SIL has a son, my nephew, who is nine
months younger than me.
Don't forget to mention that where you come from,inter-marriage
amongst family members is quite common; brothers, sisters,cousins,
grandmothers,ect.., it's just one big "happy" family.
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16 Nov 2004 03:59:51 PM |
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On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 05:16:09 GMT, "Raptor514"
<Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> wrote:
So, let's say your a ten-year old great-grandkid of this lady and then---you
end up with two great-grand aunts who are ten years YOUNGER than you are.
Talk about messing with your head. . .
Indeed.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Michael" |
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12 Nov 2004 10:27:25 AM |
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the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
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i'm rich beyotch! toot toot.
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12 Nov 2004 05:51:21 PM |
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"Michael" <KareemOfweet840@hotmail.noncommie> writes:
the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
Great-grandmother at 59? It's possible to attain that status in a woman's
early 40s...and I've encountered a couple of grandmothers not yet out of their
20s in the part of eastern Kentucky I was born in.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2004-05 Houston Aeros)
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| User: "Anne Rogers" |
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12 Nov 2004 11:10:51 AM |
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@hotmail.noncommie> wrote in message news:Nv5ld.52$N_5.41@trnddc03...
the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
that is fairly amazing and it said she has 6 great grand children,
Nathanaels youngest great grandparent will be 70 next week
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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12 Nov 2004 11:34:44 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:10:51 -0000, "Anne Rogers"
<annekh23@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
that is fairly amazing and it said she has 6 great grand children,
Nathanaels youngest great grandparent will be 70 next week
That's gotta make the red state voters and pope proud.
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| User: "Jez" |
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13 Nov 2004 12:16:10 AM |
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Michael wrote:
the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
My mother is a 64 year old Great Grandmother....
With 2 great-grand children...and another on the way...
--
Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
NFS Porsche Unleashed, Hot Pursuit 2, Underground.
Yeowww
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| User: "Ash" |
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12 Nov 2004 02:36:17 PM |
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Michael wrote:
the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
The UK's youngest grandmother was 28, and as this woman had her first at
15, I suspect she wasn't much older when she beacame a grandmother
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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12 Nov 2004 11:37:40 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:36:17 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
The UK's youngest grandmother was 28, and as this woman had her first at
15, I suspect she wasn't much older when she beacame a grandmother
Holy hell... so her daughter was 13? 12 when she got pregnant?
Although... I bet in islamic and third world countries this sort of
thing is pretty common.
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| User: "Ash" |
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13 Nov 2004 04:26:38 AM |
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Rune Børsjø wrote:
On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:36:17 +0000, Ash
<ashamanic@winterfell73.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
The UK's youngest grandmother was 28, and as this woman had her first at
15, I suspect she wasn't much older when she beacame a grandmother
Holy hell... so her daughter was 13? 12 when she got pregnant?
Although... I bet in islamic and third world countries this sort of
thing is pretty common.
I think they were both 14 when they gave birth, so 13/14 when they got
pregnant. It does seem to be fairly common for those who have very
young mothers also to become mothers at a very young age
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12 Nov 2004 03:13:14 PM |
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Michael wrote:
the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
The most amazing thing is she's still bonking at nearly 60, I'm 35 and
and hardly have the energy anymore....go her
Andrea
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| User: "Carol Ann" |
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| Title: Re: Great grandmother pregnant with twins |
12 Nov 2004 05:21:09 PM |
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the most amazing thing isn't the twins. it's that she's a 59 year old
*great* grandmother.
The most amazing thing is she's still bonking at nearly 60, I'm 35 and
and hardly have the energy anymore....go her
Andrea
I'm 40 and haven't "bonked" since I was 4 months pregnant. Damn........what
happened??
~Carol Ann
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| User: "Rune Børsjø" |
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| Title: Re: Great grandmother pregnant with twins |
12 Nov 2004 11:38:56 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:21:09 GMT, "Carol Ann"
<lowcarber@mindspring.com> wrote:
I'm 40 and haven't "bonked" since I was 4 months pregnant. Damn........what
happened??
I'm guessing you were too busy changing diapers :-)
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