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25 Jul 2007 01:40:07 AM |
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Greek mastodon find 'spectacular' |
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
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BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
---
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6913366.stm
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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26 Jul 2007 05:30:19 AM |
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johac responded :
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
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BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
---
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6913366.stm
Theory has it that, like modern elephants, the boys fought over
females. Judging by the length of this guy's tusks, he must have been
a prolific breeder.
Length does matter in some species.
Pang - lol
--
Vita est brevis. Exsisto volatilis delecto! Planto festinatio ut
exsisto pius!
Henri Frederic Amiel - with a thanks to Walksalone for bringing it to
my attention.
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Jul 2007 05:41:14 PM |
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In article <mn.d10e7d774cb74a38.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
johac responded :
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
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BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
---
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6913366.stm
Theory has it that, like modern elephants, the boys fought over
females. Judging by the length of this guy's tusks, he must have been
a prolific breeder.
Length does matter in some species.
Pang - lol
Uh, Indeed! :-)
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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26 Jul 2007 07:32:58 AM |
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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:30:19 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
johac responded :
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
---
BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
---
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6913366.stm
Theory has it that, like modern elephants, the boys fought over
females. Judging by the length of this guy's tusks, he must have been
a prolific breeder.
Length does matter in some species.
Pang - lol
....and the emasculatory laugh is all we get for our trouble...(/head
and shoulders signal the drooping wave that commences to descend
throughout the body.../)
--
Vita est brevis. Exsisto volatilis delecto! Planto festinatio ut
exsisto pius!
Henri Frederic Amiel - with a thanks to Walksalone for bringing it to
my attention.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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27 Jul 2007 07:39:33 AM |
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William Wingstedt wrote on 7/26/2007 :
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 04:30:19 -0600, Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net>
wrote:
johac responded :
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
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BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
---
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6913366.stm
Theory has it that, like modern elephants, the boys fought over
females. Judging by the length of this guy's tusks, he must have been
a prolific breeder.
Length does matter in some species.
Pang - lol
...and the emasculatory laugh is all we get for our trouble...(/head
and shoulders signal the drooping wave that commences to descend
throughout the body.../)
Ummm, the opposite is that length DOESN'T matter in some species -
technique and/or foreplay (thinking bower birds here) are more
important. :-)
--
Vita est brevis. Exsisto volatilis delecto! Planto festinatio ut
exsisto pius!
Henri Frederic Amiel - with a thanks to Walksalone for bringing it to
my attention.
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Tamdiu discendum est, quamdiu vivas.
Seneca
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25 Jul 2007 06:49:31 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-44D11C.23400724072007@news.giganews.com...
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
---
BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
Thanks for that, John. Very interesting, especially as I may be distantly
related to ***** Mol.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Jul 2007 11:53:57 PM |
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In article <fkRpi.13072$gX5.9571@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-44D11C.23400724072007@news.giganews.com...
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
---
BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
Thanks for that, John. Very interesting, especially as I may be distantly
related to ***** Mol.
Your welcome. Have you ever met him?
Smiler,
The godless one
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Smiler" |
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26 Jul 2007 03:44:01 PM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-022861.21535725072007@news.giganews.com...
In article <fkRpi.13072$gX5.9571@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-44D11C.23400724072007@news.giganews.com...
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
---
BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
Thanks for that, John. Very interesting, especially as I may be distantly
related to ***** Mol.
Your welcome. Have you ever met him?
No. I do have some Mols in my family tree and it's not a very common
surname.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Jul 2007 05:42:17 PM |
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In article <lI7qi.2049$ph7.1344@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-022861.21535725072007@news.giganews.com...
In article <fkRpi.13072$gX5.9571@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-44D11C.23400724072007@news.giganews.com...
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
---
BBC NEWS
Greek mastodon find 'spectacular'
A Dutch scientist at the site, ***** Mol, says the find near Grevena
should help explain why mastodons died out in Europe two to three
million years ago.
The mastodon's tusks measure 5m (16.5ft) and 4m, Mr Mol told the BBC.
They are the longest tusks ever found on a prehistoric elephant-like
animal. "It is spectacular," Mr Mol said.
There have also been rare mastodon finds in northern Europe, notably in
England, Germany and the Netherlands.
Mastodons are thought to have first appeared about five million years
ago and became extinct in North America about 10,000 years ago - much
later than in Europe.
The animals were similar to woolly mammoths, but had tusks that pointed
forwards, rather than spiralling upwards. Their teeth were also
different.
The team of palaeontologists, including Professor Evangelia Tsoukala of
Greece's Aristotle University in Thessaloniki (Salonica), began the
excavation on 16 July and is planning to finish it on Wednesday.
Scientists will study the remains at a research centre in the Milia
region of northern Greece, and there are hopes that some of the
creature's DNA is still intact, Mr Mol told the BBC News website.
Various parts of the skeleton have been dug up, along with teeth.
The animal's height was about 3.5m at the shoulder and it weighed some
six tons. The mastodon feasted on leaves, unlike the woolly mammoth,
which grazed.
Eventually it will go on display at a museum in Milia.
Thanks for that, John. Very interesting, especially as I may be distantly
related to ***** Mol.
Your welcome. Have you ever met him?
No. I do have some Mols in my family tree and it's not a very common
surname.
Maybe you'll run into him someday.
Smiler,
The godless one
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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25 Jul 2007 02:45:15 AM |
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On Jul 25, 2:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
DON"T BUY IVORY!
Oops! Sorry, John..automatic reaction. My dad managed National
Wildlife Refuges for the Dep't of the Interior here in the US, and I
guess a little bit of it rubbed off after all...
Before I was born:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=41590
Where I was born:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=41640
I was a little kid!:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=43610
Unlike the military "brats" we stayed at this one long enough for me
to think of it as "home".
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42530
Back then (the `70s), `Skeet also was the management center for the
other NWRs in eastern NC:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42540
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42531
My dad also busted his balls trying to preserve this little piece of
habitat before the (..OK, alt.ath is unmoderated..I can curse!) god-
damned motherfucking, *****-eating, *****-assed Real Estate Thieves got
their filthy hands on it:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42531
Established the year after he died. Still pisses me off that he did so
much work for it, and never got to see it happen. He would have
already been retired when it happened, but he would have laughed like
a madman when the place was chosen to reintroduce the Red Wolf back
into where it fucking *belongs*. My ol' man loved predators. He
hypothosized that an ecosystem that couldn't support the animals on
the top of the food chain was too weak (or too *false*, as he phrased
it) to survive on it's own. "Why raise so many prey animals, when
there's nothing to eat `em?", he'd say. "There won't be a single plant
left next year if we keep going like this. *****, we should just let
the hunters in to shoot anything that moves."
He was right, of course:
http://www.google.com/search?tab=sw&sa=N&hl=en&lr=&q=predation+beneficial
But he wouldn't have cared about that. AFAICT, he never saw a Red Wolf
anywhere other than in captivity. I wish he was still here to see one
ambush a racoon paying far too much attention to a trash pile the
tourists left behind. Not just because he would enjoy it so much, but
because my dumb selfish self would like to see that perfect smirk on
my dad's face just one last time. "Gotcha, you little *****. Maybe
you should try *working* for a meal, like the guy that gotcha!" I
don't know why, but my dad had very little patience with raccoons. <g>
This is the same man that encouraged me & my teenage friends to throw
cigarette butts to the seagulls while the tourists were throwing food.
He seemed to hope that once they'd had a bad taste in their mouth,
they'd quit relying on humans for food, and resort to their natural
behavior.
We ended up here:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=43620
Another gorgeous place, but we moved there my senior year of high
school. I was the typical ***** adolescent. Hey! Here's what I
would accept as "proof" of god, theists! Let me wake up tomorrow
morning with my 45yr old brain in my 18yr old body! Let me be that
young again, now that I know how to keep a civil tounge in my head!
<bg>
Perhaps a daily exposure to natural selection is what caused this lil'
Southern Boy to doubt his "good Christian raising" in the first place?
Sorry for the hijack, John. That article's a *great* find. Damn, I
don't know why I feel so philosophical tonight...
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
who should just go *back* to the woods on the lee side of the island
and STFU. <g>
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Jul 2007 06:20:46 PM |
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In article <1185349515.805741.246430@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
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On Jul 25, 2:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
DON"T BUY IVORY!
I Don't.
Oops! Sorry, John..automatic reaction. My dad managed National
Wildlife Refuges for the Dep't of the Interior here in the US, and I
guess a little bit of it rubbed off after all...
That's OK. I don't think there's any chance that the Greek government
would let anyone get those hands on those tusks.
Before I was born:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=41590
Where I was born:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=41640
I was a little kid!:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=43610
Unlike the military "brats" we stayed at this one long enough for me
to think of it as "home".
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42530
Back then (the `70s), `Skeet also was the management center for the
other NWRs in eastern NC:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42540
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42531
My dad also busted his balls trying to preserve this little piece of
habitat before the (..OK, alt.ath is unmoderated..I can curse!) god-
damned motherfucking, *****-eating, *****-assed Real Estate Thieves got
their filthy hands on it:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=42531
Wow! Nice places. Prettier than New York.
The ***** developers in California won't be happy until the last patch
of open space is paved over and something is built on it.
Established the year after he died. Still pisses me off that he did so
much work for it, and never got to see it happen. He would have
already been retired when it happened, but he would have laughed like
a madman when the place was chosen to reintroduce the Red Wolf back
into where it fucking *belongs*. My ol' man loved predators. He
hypothosized that an ecosystem that couldn't support the animals on
the top of the food chain was too weak (or too *false*, as he phrased
it) to survive on it's own. "Why raise so many prey animals, when
there's nothing to eat `em?", he'd say. "There won't be a single plant
left next year if we keep going like this. *****, we should just let
the hunters in to shoot anything that moves."
He was right, of course:
http://www.google.com/search?tab=sw&sa=N&hl=en&lr=&q=predation+beneficial
Wolves eat 'cute' little prey animals so they must be bad. And people
who think like that are dumb.
But he wouldn't have cared about that. AFAICT, he never saw a Red Wolf
anywhere other than in captivity. I wish he was still here to see one
ambush a racoon paying far too much attention to a trash pile the
tourists left behind. Not just because he would enjoy it so much, but
because my dumb selfish self would like to see that perfect smirk on
my dad's face just one last time. "Gotcha, you little *****. Maybe
you should try *working* for a meal, like the guy that gotcha!" I
don't know why, but my dad had very little patience with raccoons. <g>
This is the same man that encouraged me & my teenage friends to throw
cigarette butts to the seagulls while the tourists were throwing food.
He seemed to hope that once they'd had a bad taste in their mouth,
they'd quit relying on humans for food, and resort to their natural
behavior.
How did the seagulls react?
We ended up here:
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=43620
Another gorgeous place, but we moved there my senior year of high
school. I was the typical ***** adolescent. Hey! Here's what I
would accept as "proof" of god, theists! Let me wake up tomorrow
morning with my 45yr old brain in my 18yr old body! Let me be that
young again, now that I know how to keep a civil tounge in my head!
<bg>
Perhaps a daily exposure to natural selection is what caused this lil'
Southern Boy to doubt his "good Christian raising" in the first place?
Sorry for the hijack, John. That article's a *great* find. Damn, I
don't know why I feel so philosophical tonight...
No that's OK. I agree. The human race is royally screwing up the planet
and it's the only one we have.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
who should just go *back* to the woods on the lee side of the island
and STFU. <g>
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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25 Jul 2007 06:30:53 PM |
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On Jul 25, 7:20 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1185349515.805741.246...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
DON"T BUY IVORY!
I Don't.
I didn't think you were the kind o'guy that would. <g> It was a
generic warning..
snip some
Wolves eat 'cute' little prey animals so they must be bad. And people
who think like that are dumb.
Yeah. Predators are the very signature of a healthy biosystem. I still
love `em. My daughter always hits me when "Nature" is on PBS..I'm
usually cheering out loud for the lioness to take the wildabeast's
head off. "Clamp that throat, baby! Kittens gonna eat tonite!!" ;)
But he wouldn't have cared about that. AFAICT, he never saw a Red Wolf
anywhere other than in captivity. I wish he was still here to see one
ambush a racoon paying far too much attention to a trash pile the
tourists left behind. Not just because he would enjoy it so much, but
because my dumb selfish self would like to see that perfect smirk on
my dad's face just one last time. "Gotcha, you little *****. Maybe
you should try *working* for a meal, like the guy that gotcha!" I
don't know why, but my dad had very little patience with raccoons. <g>
This is the same man that encouraged me & my teenage friends to throw
cigarette butts to the seagulls while the tourists were throwing food.
He seemed to hope that once they'd had a bad taste in their mouth,
they'd quit relying on humans for food, and resort to their natural
behavior.
How did the seagulls react?
Well, they'd spit them right out, but it never seemed to discourage
them from taking the next one. Seems there was always too much real
food being thrown, and they never learned the lesson.
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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26 Jul 2007 12:03:46 AM |
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In article <1185406253.106608.76140@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
On Jul 25, 7:20 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1185349515.805741.246...@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Picture at site. Those tusks were huge!
DON"T BUY IVORY!
I Don't.
I didn't think you were the kind o'guy that would. <g> It was a
generic warning..
snip some
Wolves eat 'cute' little prey animals so they must be bad. And people
who think like that are dumb.
Yeah. Predators are the very signature of a healthy biosystem. I still
love `em. My daughter always hits me when "Nature" is on PBS..I'm
usually cheering out loud for the lioness to take the wildabeast's
head off. "Clamp that throat, baby! Kittens gonna eat tonite!!" ;)
True. The lioness kills the wildebeest in the same spirit that we go to
the supermarket to buy a steak. Animals have to eat.
Another point. If it weren't for predators, we'd be knee deep in prey
animals. That's why I'm reluctant to kill spiders as long as they keep
their distance. Spiders eat more obnoxious bugs.
But he wouldn't have cared about that. AFAICT, he never saw a Red Wolf
anywhere other than in captivity. I wish he was still here to see one
ambush a racoon paying far too much attention to a trash pile the
tourists left behind. Not just because he would enjoy it so much, but
because my dumb selfish self would like to see that perfect smirk on
my dad's face just one last time. "Gotcha, you little *****. Maybe
you should try *working* for a meal, like the guy that gotcha!" I
don't know why, but my dad had very little patience with raccoons. <g>
This is the same man that encouraged me & my teenage friends to throw
cigarette butts to the seagulls while the tourists were throwing food.
He seemed to hope that once they'd had a bad taste in their mouth,
they'd quit relying on humans for food, and resort to their natural
behavior.
How did the seagulls react?
Well, they'd spit them right out, but it never seemed to discourage
them from taking the next one. Seems there was always too much real
food being thrown, and they never learned the lesson.
Birdbrains! :-)
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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25 Jul 2007 03:48:51 AM |
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On Jul 25, 3:45 am, wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
snip
My dad also busted his balls trying to preserve this little piece of
habitat before the (..OK, alt.ath is unmoderated..I can curse!) god-
damned motherfucking, *****-eating, *****-assed Real Estate Thieves got
their filthy hands on it:
Well, drunken self-righteousness is a recipe for typos!
The link should have been for Alligator River NWR, of course...and not
a 2nd visit to Cedar Island (although CI's barrier island beauty is
well worth a second look.)
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=41630
-PF, etc.
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25 Jul 2007 06:22:38 PM |
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In article <1185353331.799018.300530@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
On Jul 25, 3:45 am, wrote:
On Jul 25, 2:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
snip
My dad also busted his balls trying to preserve this little piece of
habitat before the (..OK, alt.ath is unmoderated..I can curse!) god-
damned motherfucking, *****-eating, *****-assed Real Estate Thieves got
their filthy hands on it:
Well, drunken self-righteousness is a recipe for typos!
The link should have been for Alligator River NWR, of course...and not
a 2nd visit to Cedar Island (although CI's barrier island beauty is
well worth a second look.)
http://www.fws.gov/refuges/profiles/index.cfm?id=41630
-PF, etc.
That's spectacular too!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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