Religions > Atheism > Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow
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"Rodger" |
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29 Jun 2004 03:47:01 AM |
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Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
In the Canadain election the Liberals lost seats but still managed a
minotrity government. Voters rebuked the government for its scandals
but also smacked Stephen Harper and his gaggle of neo-con/Zionist
pinheads.
The NDP doubled its seats and looks like the odds-on favourite to form
a modus operandi with Prime Minister Paul Martin.
The dust hasn't settled yet, but the least Shelly should do is admit
that Greg Felton called this election accurately and for the reasons
stated in his column. Here's it is again.
"Christian populists, Israeli apologists and U.S.-style republicans do
not a Conservative Party make"
Greg Felton
Alberta Arab News (mediamonitors.net)
June 24, 2004
Four days from now, Canadians will decide if they want to legitimize
Paul Martin as prime minister and give the Liberal Party a fourth
majority in the House of Commons. If indications are accurate, they’ll
do the first, but not necessarily the second.
The public has no great passion for the Liberals. The government has
been taking a pasting over the sponsorship scandal, and Martin’s
decision, when he was finance minister, to balance the federal budget
at the expense of health care. Moreover, no federal party has ever won
four consecutive terms. As the saying goes, governments are voted out,
not voted in, and it would seem that the Liberals should be on the way
out.
“Seem,” though, is the operative word, because a fourth Liberal
government is a virtual certainty; the only question is whether it
will be a majority or a minority. The basis for this counterintuitive
prediction lies in the lack of a credible alternative this time round.
The New Democrats will doubtless pick up a lot of anti-government
votes and could see a record number of MPs elected, but the party
still doesn’t have enough appeal outside of its core left-wing
constituency to challenge for government. Nevertheless, it finally has
a strong leader in Jack Layton, who is already musing about supporting
a minority Liberal government.
That leaves only Stephen Harper’s “Conservative” Party as the only
national alternative. I say “Conservative” because the party is
nothing of the sort. Properly speaking, “conservative” connotes
support for national institutions, defence of tradition, incremental
change, and a preference for societal rights over individual rights.
None of these criteria applies to Harper and his puritanical posse of
Christian populists, Israeli apologists and U.S.-style republicans.
The party name reflects Progressive Conservative leader Peter McKay’s
decision to betray his party and his principles to merge with Harper’s
Canadian Alliance, which was hardly Canadian and not even an alliance.
On June 28, those who might ordinarily turn to the Conservatives now
face the spectre of voting for moral reactionaries and anti-statist
zealots who worship at the altar of unenlightened self-interest and
would reduce Canada into a full-blown lackey of the U.S. and Israel.
Therefore, enough disaffected Liberal voters might support the
government as the lesser of two evils.
The other factor in the Liberals’ favour is the appalling stupidity of
Harper and his posse. Because they are driven more by dogma than
reason, they are prone to dangerous lapses in judgment. The subject of
Canada’s refusal to join the invasion of Iraq is particularly
instructive.
In the House, the posse relentlessly berated, assailed and insulted
then-Prime Minister Jean Chrétien for refusing to stand
“shoulder-to-shoulder” with our American “allies.” On March 30, 2003,
Harper said on CTV’s Question Period: “This government’s only
explanation for not standing behind our allies is that they couldn’t
get the approval of the Security Council at the United Nations—a body
[on] which Canada doesn't even have a seat.”
It appears Harper hasn’t read the National Defence Act, or doesn’t
think it matters, or else he wouldn’t have uttered such a
condescending howler. The Act states that some or all of Canada’s
forces may be placed on active service if:
(a) by reason of an emergency, for the defence of Canada; or
(b) in consequence of any action undertaken by Canada under the United
Nations Charter, the North Atlantic Treaty or any similar instrument
for collective defence that may be entered into by Canada. (my
emphasis)
Dubya’s pre-meditated aggression, based on willful disregard of
critical intelligence, does not in any way qualify as an instrument
for collective defence. Nevertheless, Harper called the attack force a
“multilateral coalition of forces,” giving the false impression that
it had some form of moral sanction. It did not. In fact, it violated
articles 2, 33-38 and 51 of the UN Charter.
In short, Harper would have had Canada violate national and
international law, and involve our soldiers in a war crime. Perhaps he
should warn Canadians that he plans to contract out the country’s
military policy to the Pentagon, but that wouldn’t go over well at a
time when the posse is trolling for votes and needs to downplay its
image as a bunch of gormless hicks.
Today, Chrétien is praised for his courage and principle, and Harper
is desperately trying to rewrite history. He charges that Liberals are
lying when the say that if he had been prime minister Canadians would
be in Iraq this year.
Yet here is Harper speaking to Canadian Press on April 1, 2003: “We
support the war effort and believe we should be supporting our troops
and our allies and be there with them doing everything necessary to
win.” The headline on a Globe and Mail column by Lawrence Martin said
it best: “Iraq: Harper, Harper, Pants on Fire!”
On the matter of Israel, foreign affairs critic and former party
leader Stockwell Day stands out as the posse’s most conspicuous
embarrassment, and potentially one of Martin’s biggest assets.
Believe it or not, Day is a biblical literalist who believes the Earth
is 6,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. Not
surprisingly, his understanding of Canada’s Middle East policy is
non-cognitive and obscurantist. Any attempt by Ottawa to hold Israel
accountable to international law is denounced as “anti-Israel” and any
show of support for the Palestinians is equated with endorsing
terrorism.
Denouncing the atrocities committed in Rafah and Jenin, to say nothing
of Israel’s role in the tortures in Iraqi prisons, matter not to a man
whose idea of reality comes out a self-contradictory book of myth and
interpretive narrative. Day might as well say he would let Tel Aviv
make Canada’s Middle East policy, but that also wouldn’t go over very
well.
Come to think of it, you don’t hear these “Conservatives” say very
much at all. Their campaign looks a lot like George Bush’s—keep your
mouth shut and don’t give your opponent an opening. Do we really want
to entrust our country to these people?
For Canadians, the most important consideration should be to keep
Canada in the hands of Canadian parties. No party that would have
Harper or Day as a member deserves to govern.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
05 Jul 2004 10:41:16 PM |
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You know nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't understand. Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish terrorists and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of all cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's your defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never made one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely lost every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments I have lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with even one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have enver managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever made. I defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to do so. To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already done so is not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off these threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE EXISTENCE OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<" and ">" is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces it with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and everyone is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just keeps on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my arguments and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly expect from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his own biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
The above is testimony to how much Felton values his own time. This is a
child in the body of a man, and exemplifies why he has yet to win a single
argument from me.
Not one, Greg. Nada, zilch, zip, goose egg, rien, gournish, naught, .....
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
06 Jul 2004 11:42:10 AM |
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You know nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't understand. Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish terrorists and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of all cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's your defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never made one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely lost every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments I have lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with even one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have enver managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever made. I defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to do so. To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already done so is not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off these threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE EXISTENCE OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<" and ">" is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces it with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and everyone is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just keeps on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my arguments and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly expect from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his own biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
06 Jul 2004 02:29:49 PM |
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You know
nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't understand.
Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish terrorists
and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of all
cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's your
defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never made one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely lost
every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments I have
lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with even one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have enver
managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever made. I
defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to do so.
To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already done so is
not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off these
threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE EXISTENCE
OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<" and ">"
is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces it with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and everyone
is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just keeps on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my arguments
and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly expect from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his own
biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Mental patient Greg "Rodger" Felton thinks--sorry, believes--that he can win
any argument by snipping his opponent's response and replacing it with
drivel as exemplfied above.
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07 Jul 2004 12:07:22 AM |
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You know
nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't understand.
Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish terrorists
and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of all
cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's your
defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never made one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely lost
every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments I have
lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with even one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have enver
managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever made. I
defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to do so.
To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already done so is
not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off these
threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE EXISTENCE
OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<" and ">"
is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces it with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and everyone
is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just keeps on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my arguments
and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly expect from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his own
biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
07 Jul 2004 06:13:40 AM |
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You know
nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't
understand.
Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish
terrorists
and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against
humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of all
cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's your
defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never made
one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely lost
every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments I
have
lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with even
one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have enver
managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever made. I
defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to do
so.
To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already done so
is
not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off these
threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE
EXISTENCE
OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<" and
">"
is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces it
with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and
everyone
is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just keeps
on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my
arguments
and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly expect
from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his own
biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
I did. You snipped it. You're deeply disturbed.
.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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07 Jul 2004 07:48:20 PM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You know
nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't
understand.
Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish
terrorists
and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against
humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of all
cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's your
defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never made
one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely lost
every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments I
have
lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with even
one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have enver
managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever made. I
defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to do
so.
To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already done so
is
not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off these
threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE
EXISTENCE
OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<" and
">"
is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces it
with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and
everyone
is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just keeps
on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my
arguments
and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly expect
from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his own
biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
Apparantly it is. Give me an answer I and I will respond.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 10:11:18 AM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Spoken like the true bigot youa re, Larry. You
know
nothing of
Islam.
All you know is how to hate people you don't
understand.
Wait
til
countries wise up and start rounding up Jewish
terrorists
and
charging
them with treason, wr crimes asnd crimes against
humanity.
Can't
wait
til the world wages war against the greatest of
all
cancers.
Don't hold your breath. On second thught, please do.
Shelly--still spouting ignorant retorts, eh? Where's
your
defence
of
Israel? Contrary to your assertions you have never
made
one. I
suppose
as a conceited ziospammer you will do anything to
avoid an
analytical
argument.
No less would I expect from someone who has absolutely
lost
every
argument
he's ever had with me.
Oh please, you all-knowing Jew, point out these arguments
I
have
lost,
for I know they do not exist.
I have asked you for specifics on untold
numbers of occasions, and your failure to come up with
even
one
example proves you to be a desperate liar.
You are ignorant, bigoted, and waste of space. You have
enver
managed
to form a detailed refutation of any point I have ever
made. I
defy
you to come up with one point. In fact I challenge you to
do
so.
To
regurgitate the cowardly fiction that you have already
done so
is
not
adequate.
If you cannot manage this one, simple, task then get off
these
threads
and admit defeat. GIVE ME A DEFINITIVE ARGUEMT FOR THE
EXISTENCE
OF
ISRAEL. YOU HAVE YET TO DO SO.
<shelly's drivel deleted>
Attention all. The above text, enclosed with the delimiters "<"
and
">"
is a
common Greg Felton tactic. He deletes my argument and replaces
it
with
whatever he wishes to place between the delimiters. Anyone and
everyone
is
invited to search the archives to discover my meaning. He just
keeps
on
repeating the same stupidity over and over again, deleting my
arguments
and
pretending they never existed. What more could one possibly
expect
from
someone who invent an identidy for the sole purpose of being his
own
biggest
fan.
Ode to a Zew
Shelly, Shelly ,
The brainless Zew
Was given a challenge
And knew not what to do.
Despite prodding and pleading
He cowered and quaked.
How could he not,
When his "facts" are half-baked?
A simple task, one would think,
Would be easy to do,
But when push came to shove
He could but spew, spew, spew.
"Prove Israel's right to exist
Or I say henceforth desist!"
The challenge was laid down.
But no sane response came
From this pretentious clown.
"I've won every argument!"
The arrogant Zew boasted
Against such a foe,
I would expect to be toasted.
Yet I've had no response
From this all-knowing Zew.
Who claims I don't stack up.
To the meagrest Jew.
Why the silence, I ask?
Is a simple question too difficult a task?
Perhaps the problem is Shelly.
Who when faced with facts.
Becomes a nervous Nelly.
afraid he'll have to cover his tracks.
This Zew is hot air--nothing more.
Were it not for his stupidity
He'd be a total bore.
Thus, I declaim with confidence and fact
Shelly is a liar, a dunce and a brainless artifact.
This truth is as so obvious
As his posts lay bare.
But he's too arrogant to shut up;
Too stupid to care.
The Zew is defeated.
As anyone can see.
The fact he claims otherwise
Matters not to me.
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will
not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question.
No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he
accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
Apparantly it is. Give me an answer I and I will respond.
I did. You didn't.
Perhaps you need it expressed in your mother tongue. OK, here it is: oink
oink {squeal} oink oink {squeal} oink.
Boy, these translation programs are handy.
.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 09:01:00 PM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407071648.49f5b411@posting.google.com...
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
Apparantly it is. Give me an answer I and I will respond.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
09 Jul 2004 06:34:25 AM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407081801.1e7cda3e@posting.google.com...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407071648.49f5b411@posting.google.com...
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
Apparantly it is. Give me an answer I and I will respond.
You're incapable of responding. You're only capable of snipping other
people's responses.
Objects in your mirror are dumber than they appear.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
09 Jul 2004 06:50:45 PM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407081801.1e7cda3e@posting.google.com...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407071648.49f5b411@posting.google.com...
Come on ya putz!!! ANSWER THE CHALLENGE OR ADMIT DEFEAT!!! THAT'S NOT
TOO HARD, IS IT SHELLY?
Apparantly it is. Give me an answer I and I will respond.
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| User: "Count 1" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
06 Jul 2004 02:04:51 PM |
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<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Maybe you should outline the criteria you would accept as relevant in
determining the 'legitimacy' of any nation.
If you have any, that is.
.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
07 Jul 2004 12:05:00 AM |
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"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2l0bdlF71gsvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Maybe you should outline the criteria you would accept as relevant in
determining the 'legitimacy' of any nation.
If you have any, that is.
I refer to UNGA Resolutions 181, 194, 273.
I have repeatedly asked Shelly to defend Israel's existence in light
of these resolutions. He has not done so, and I doubt he ever will. He
is a coward and he knows it.
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| User: "Count 1" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
07 Jul 2004 09:40:17 AM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407062105.2b39868d@posting.google.com...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2l0bdlF71gsvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Maybe you should outline the criteria you would accept as relevant in
determining the 'legitimacy' of any nation.
If you have any, that is.
I refer to UNGA Resolutions 181, 194, 273.
I'm not interested in UN Resolutions, as your challenge has nothing to do
with them. I'm interested in what criteria you need to see in place for you
to come to the determination that any nation - not just Israel - is
'legitimate'.
Once we know what those are, we can discuss if Israel fills any or a
substantial amount.
Its called 'discussion', as opposed to 'flaming'.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
07 Jul 2004 09:20:36 PM |
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"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2l2g9gF7vs1nU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407062105.2b39868d@posting.google.com...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2l0bdlF71gsvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question. No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Maybe you should outline the criteria you would accept as relevant in
determining the 'legitimacy' of any nation.
If you have any, that is.
I refer to UNGA Resolutions 181, 194, 273.
I'm not interested in UN Resolutions, as your challenge has nothing to do
with them. I'm interested in what criteria you need to see in place for you
to come to the determination that any nation - not just Israel - is
'legitimate'.
Once we know what those are, we can discuss if Israel fills any or a
substantial amount.
Its called 'discussion', as opposed to 'flaming'.
First of all, in the case of Israel, UN resolutions are most
important. This "state" is unique in that it was carved out of land
that was not Jewish and given to (primarily) European Jews. It is
entirely an artifical creation based on tendentious notions of
morality and legality.
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Israel is *not* like other nations, even those that came into being by
conquest.
By the way, if you want to stop flaming, slap Shelly upside the head
and tell him to act like an adult.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 07:46:55 AM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407071820.77ff4a62@posting.google.com...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2l2g9gF7vs1nU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407062105.2b39868d@posting.google.com...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2l0bdlF71gsvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will
not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question.
No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he
accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Maybe you should outline the criteria you would accept as relevant
in
determining the 'legitimacy' of any nation.
If you have any, that is.
I refer to UNGA Resolutions 181, 194, 273.
I'm not interested in UN Resolutions, as your challenge has nothing to
do
with them. I'm interested in what criteria you need to see in place for
you
to come to the determination that any nation - not just Israel - is
'legitimate'.
Once we know what those are, we can discuss if Israel fills any or a
substantial amount.
Its called 'discussion', as opposed to 'flaming'.
First of all, in the case of Israel, UN resolutions are most
important. This "state" is unique in that it was carved out of land
that was not Jewish and given to (primarily) European Jews. It is
entirely an artifical creation based on tendentious notions of
morality and legality.
Given? Try bought and paid for through the nose.
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
I did. You were incapable of comprehending it, so you resorted to your usual
snip'n'deny tactic.
Israel is *not* like other nations, even those that came into being by
conquest.
By the way, if you want to stop flaming, slap Shelly upside the head
and tell him to act like an adult.
Act like an adult? That's rich coming from someone who spends his time
composing odious odes to people with whom he can't keep up with
intellectually. You're mouth alternately hosts your foot and your thumb.
Which is it today?
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 01:08:35 PM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407071820.77ff4a62@posting.google.com...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2l2g9gF7vs1nU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407062105.2b39868d@posting.google.com...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<2l0bdlF71gsvU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<Shelly's cowardly, self-aggrandizing sputum snipped. Still will
not
recognize his own mental inferiority, or answer a simple question.
No
reponse from this useless Zew will be acknowledged until he
accepts
the challenge to make ONE intelligent argument, to wit, "prove the
legitimacy of Israel.">
Maybe you should outline the criteria you would accept as relevant
in
determining the 'legitimacy' of any nation.
If you have any, that is.
I refer to UNGA Resolutions 181, 194, 273.
I'm not interested in UN Resolutions, as your challenge has nothing to
do
with them. I'm interested in what criteria you need to see in place for
you
to come to the determination that any nation - not just Israel - is
'legitimate'.
Once we know what those are, we can discuss if Israel fills any or a
substantial amount.
Its called 'discussion', as opposed to 'flaming'.
First of all, in the case of Israel, UN resolutions are most
important. This "state" is unique in that it was carved out of land
that was not Jewish and given to (primarily) European Jews. It is
entirely an artifical creation based on tendentious notions of
morality and legality.
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Israel is *not* like other nations, even those that came into being by
conquest.
By the way, if you want to stop flaming, slap Shelly upside the head
and tell him to act like an adult.
.
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| User: "Deborah Sharavi" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 12:22:12 PM |
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"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2l2g9gF7vs1nU1@uni-berlin.de>...
I refer to UNGA Resolutions 181, 194, 273.
I'm not interested in UN Resolutions, as your challenge has nothing to do
with them. I'm interested in what criteria you need to see in place for you
to come to the determination that any nation - not just Israel - is
'legitimate'.
Once we know what those are, we can discuss if Israel fills any or a
substantial amount.
Its called 'discussion', as opposed to 'flaming'.
Rodger/Felton has no discussion. He has proclaimed that Israel has no
right to exist, therefore, in his self-aborbed little world, Israel
has no right to exist. When pressed for any basis in fact, he produces
his own op-ed articles for the Alberta Arab News. Being a journalism
major, Rodger/Felton naturally has no basis in fact.
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407071820.77ff4a62@posting.google.com>...
First of all, in the case of Israel, UN resolutions are most
important.
Translation: Rodger/Felton's OPINION of UN resolutions is what he
thinks is important. When said resolutions run counter to
Rodger/Felton's opinion, they lose all importance.
This "state" is unique in that it was carved out of land
that was not Jewish
Wrong. Israel has been Jewish land for 3,000 years.
and given to (primarily) European Jews. It is
entirely an artifical creation based on tendentious notions of
morality and legality
As opposed to states artificially created Arab states carved out of
land which was not originally Arab land, but given to Arabs
nevertheless, regardless of "morality and legality". Phrases like
"morality and legality" become tendentious notions themselves, when
tossed into the vacuum of Rodger/'Felton's self-described "arguments".
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Since it is Rodger/Felton who has been parroting the Arab notion that
Israel has no right to exist, it is up to Rodger/Felton to "provide a
cogent argument".
Israel is *not* like other nations, even those that came into being by
conquest.
Naturally, Rodger/Felton can't "provide a cogent argument" for this
curious notion of his.
By the way, if you want to stop flaming, slap Shelly upside the head
and tell him to act like an adult.
Obviously, Rodger/Felton's ultimate argument. Typical of
terrorist-apologists and advocates.
Deborah
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| User: "Count 1" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 12:48:16 PM |
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If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Since it is Rodger/Felton who has been parroting the Arab notion that
Israel has no right to exist, it is up to Rodger/Felton to "provide a
cogent argument".
this is what I'm trying to get him to do. I don't understand why he can't
and still feels he can come online and attempt to 'educate' people.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 01:34:07 PM |
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"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2l5flvF8s1fhU1@uni-berlin.de...
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Since it is Rodger/Felton who has been parroting the Arab notion that
Israel has no right to exist, it is up to Rodger/Felton to "provide a
cogent argument".
this is what I'm trying to get him to do. I don't understand why he can't
and still feels he can come online and attempt to 'educate' people.
Did you read his "Ode to Sheldon" post? Does this seem like someone capable
of educating anyone?
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
08 Jul 2004 06:00:00 PM |
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"Sheldon Liberman" <webmaster@liberman.com> wrote in message news:<KpgHc.34563$WM5.1616130@news20.bellglobal.com>...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2l5flvF8s1fhU1@uni-berlin.de...
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Since it is Rodger/Felton who has been parroting the Arab notion that
Israel has no right to exist, it is up to Rodger/Felton to "provide a
cogent argument".
this is what I'm trying to get him to do. I don't understand why he can't
and still feels he can come online and attempt to 'educate' people.
Did you read his "Ode to Sheldon" post? Does this seem like someone capable
of educating anyone?
Only he who is without a brain cannot understand it.
QED
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
09 Jul 2004 06:47:47 AM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407081500.5f16d5d9@posting.google.com...
"Sheldon Liberman" <webmaster@liberman.com> wrote in message
news:<KpgHc.34563$WM5.1616130@news20.bellglobal.com>...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2l5flvF8s1fhU1@uni-berlin.de...
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up
to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Since it is Rodger/Felton who has been parroting the Arab notion
that
Israel has no right to exist, it is up to Rodger/Felton to "provide
a
cogent argument".
this is what I'm trying to get him to do. I don't understand why he
can't
and still feels he can come online and attempt to 'educate' people.
Did you read his "Ode to Sheldon" post? Does this seem like someone
capable
of educating anyone?
Only he who is without a brain cannot understand it.
QED
My brain is better than yours Greg. That you can take to the bank.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
09 Jul 2004 01:19:04 PM |
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"Sheldon Liberman" <webmaster@liberman.com> wrote in message news:<OyvHc.48028$JG5.1225729@news20.bellglobal.com>...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407081500.5f16d5d9@posting.google.com...
"Sheldon Liberman" <webmaster@liberman.com> wrote in message
news:<KpgHc.34563$WM5.1616130@news20.bellglobal.com>...
"Count 1" <omnipitus2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2l5flvF8s1fhU1@uni-berlin.de...
If I am to beleve that Israel has a "right to exist" then it is up
to
Shelly and his ilk to provide a cogent argument for it.
Since it is Rodger/Felton who has been parroting the Arab notion
that
Israel has no right to exist, it is up to Rodger/Felton to "provide
a
cogent argument".
this is what I'm trying to get him to do. I don't understand why he
can't
and still feels he can come online and attempt to 'educate' people.
Did you read his "Ode to Sheldon" post? Does this seem like someone
capable
of educating anyone?
Only he who is without a brain cannot understand it.
QED
My brain is better than yours Greg. That you can take to the bank.
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can muster.
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| User: "Deborah Sharavi" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
09 Jul 2004 06:06:01 PM |
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(Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can muster.
Truer words about himself Greg Felton never spoke.
Deborah
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
10 Jul 2004 12:51:56 PM |
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(Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can muster.
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| User: "Deborah Sharavi" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
13 Jul 2004 12:31:59 PM |
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(Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407100951.29a649d3@posting.google.com>...
(Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
Rodger/Felton does it all the time.
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can muster.
Rodger/Felton's MO.
Deborah
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
14 Jul 2004 01:11:51 PM |
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(Deborah Sharavi) wrote in message news:<3cf157c1.0407130931.17e85fa@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407100951.29a649d3@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can muster.
Rodger/Felton's MO.
Deborah
Poor brainless, witless Dimbulb--a shlemiel in search of a schlemozzle.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
15 Jul 2004 12:54:22 PM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407141011.15426cda@posting.google.com...
dsharavi@hotmail.com (Deborah Sharavi) wrote in message
news:<3cf157c1.0407130931.17e85fa@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message
news:<7648e862.0407100951.29a649d3@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message
news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can
muster.
Rodger/Felton's MO.
Deborah
Poor brainless, witless Dimbulb--a shlemiel in search of a schlemozzle.
I have to hand it to you, brainless one. As regards to our respective
argumentitive propensities, I am as a fusuin bomb and you are a cap gun.
You've been nuked, but you're still here. Ergo, you must be a cockroach.
Another hypothesis confirmed. Thank you for your participation.
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| User: "Rodger" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
15 Jul 2004 05:27:55 PM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407141011.15426cda@posting.google.com...
dsharavi@hotmail.com (Deborah Sharavi) wrote in message
news:<3cf157c1.0407130931.17e85fa@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message
news:<7648e862.0407100951.29a649d3@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message
news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can
muster.
Rodger/Felton's MO.
Deborah
Poor brainless, witless Dimbulb--a shlemiel in search of a
schlemozzle.
Speaking of witless, Shelly "The Zew Without a Brain" Liberman still
cannot come up with a defensible argument for the "state" of Israel. I
have issued a challenge to him in prose and poetry, yet the brainless
one still cowers in theshadows, afraid to face the light of debate.
I laugh at his self-puffery.
Mock. Mock. Mock.
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| User: "Sheldon Liberman" |
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| Title: Re: Greg Felton's election prediction comes true; Sheldon Liberman must eat crow |
16 Jul 2004 09:43:23 AM |
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"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407151427.3779e947@posting.google.com...
"Rodger" <Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7648e862.0407141011.15426cda@posting.google.com...
dsharavi@hotmail.com (Deborah Sharavi) wrote in message
news:<3cf157c1.0407130931.17e85fa@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message
news:<7648e862.0407100951.29a649d3@posting.google.com>...
Rodgerthornhill@hotmail.com (Rodger) wrote in message
news:<7648e862.0407091019.5bc7f3d6@posting.google.com>...
How can you boast about that which you do not have?
I guess when you have nothing to say self-puffery is all you can
muster.
Rodger/Felton's MO.
Deborah
Poor brainless, witless Dimbulb--a shlemiel in search of a
schlemozzle.
Speaking of witless, Shelly "The Zew Without a Brain" Liberman still
cannot come up with a defensible argument for the "state" of Israel. I
have issued a challenge to him in prose and poetry, yet the brainless
one still cowers in theshadows, afraid to face the light of debate.
I laugh at his self-puffery.
Mock. Mock. Mock.
The only fool a fool can fool is another fool.
You can mock until the cows come home. It changes nothing. You're a first
class idiot who is good for nothing excepts snipping other people's points
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