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02 Oct 2003 12:01:48 AM |
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*Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
I don't know if it's because she's a fundie (and therefore got her brain
switched off by religion) or because she's just utterly stupid.
Last night (Tuesday) we were doing an inventory at the local baptist
hospital gift shop. She was griping about having to write up the time sheet
in "military" time--"I HATE military time!" she said. I immediately thought
of the non-military organizations that use it--astronomers, for example--
and told her that it's actually "Universal" time. She scoffed and replied,
"We don't need anyone else's time! We're a nation unto ourself!"
Sheesh.
I bet she doesn't even realize that if it weren't for the brave workers
*cough* in China, she wouldn't have the American flag she waves so proudly
from the window of her Company van.
For that matter, it's a good bet she has no idea just how the economy and
the company rely on things like Japanese-made cell phones and laptops. If
the U.S. built a wall as she seems to think it should, excluding all
foreign trade, then the big stores we do inventory at wouldn't last very
long.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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02 Oct 2003 07:43:19 AM |
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"J. White" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote in message news:<Xns940855ECAD7askifyouwantit@216.77.188.2>...
I don't know if it's because she's a fundie (and therefore got her brain
switched off by religion) or because she's just utterly stupid.
Last night (Tuesday) we were doing an inventory at the local baptist
hospital gift shop. She was griping about having to write up the time sheet
in "military" time--"I HATE military time!" she said. I immediately thought
of the non-military organizations that use it--astronomers, for example--
and told her that it's actually "Universal" time. She scoffed and replied,
"We don't need anyone else's time! We're a nation unto ourself!"
Sheesh.
She probably also heard that it's called "metric time".
Bob Dog
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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02 Oct 2003 11:50:43 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:01:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some "J. White" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>
came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
I don't know if it's because she's a fundie (and therefore got her brain
switched off by religion) or because she's just utterly stupid.
Last night (Tuesday) we were doing an inventory at the local baptist
hospital gift shop. She was griping about having to write up the time sheet
in "military" time--"I HATE military time!" she said. I immediately thought
of the non-military organizations that use it--astronomers, for example--
and told her that it's actually "Universal" time. She scoffed and replied,
"We don't need anyone else's time! We're a nation unto ourself!"
Considering I leared the 24 clock in the *US* Army, I have to wonder.
I honestly can't think in AM/PM anymore. I have to convert to 2400 in
my head. I've trained my wife to do it as well. :)
I bet she doesn't even realize that if it weren't for the brave workers
*cough* in China, she wouldn't have the American flag she waves so proudly
from the window of her Company van.
Seriously. If some of these idiots actually understood that we live
in a global economy, and about out only majot exports these days and
wheant and automobiles.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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02 Oct 2003 06:59:17 PM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:jmlonvo1idqsujpjislrg0kc393mp25f6a@4ax.com:
Lo, many moons past, on Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:01:48 GMT, a stranger
called by some "J. White" <gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com>
came forth and told this tale in alt.atheism
I bet she doesn't even realize that if it weren't for the brave
workers *cough* in China, she wouldn't have the American flag she
waves so proudly from the window of her Company van.
Seriously. If some of these idiots actually understood that we live
in a global economy, and about out only majot exports these days and
wheant and automobiles.
I bet she's not aware that there's no American manufacturer of VCR's. Sure,
an American company developed the technology--but the board members or
stock-holders couldn't see how to make a $100,000-per-unit machine into
quick profits.
So they sold it to the Japanese. The rest is history.
Color TV's? Similar stories--sell the manufacturing overseas. I don't think
anyone in the U.S. still builds them here (if I remember right, Curtis
Mathes was the last one standing in the mid-80's).
I wonder if this manager of mine would be willing to get rid of all the
things she's got that were imported? After all, she doesn't think this
country needs anyone else.
Funny how people like her seem to wish for a return to those pre-Ozzy and
Harriet days of isolationism.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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03 Oct 2003 09:16:06 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:59:17 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
I bet she's not aware that there's no American manufacturer of VCR's. Sure,
an American company developed the technology
Which one? JVC or Sony? :)
--
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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04 Oct 2003 04:12:10 AM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:hbupnvobdk7u26kbn31rq9i74tn6t1dtm3@Pern.rk:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:59:17 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
I bet she's not aware that there's no American manufacturer of VCR's.
Sure, an American company developed the technology
Which one? JVC or Sony? :)
Ampex (or Ampeg?)--back in the 1960, early '70s if I'm remembering the
article right (electronics mag from the early 80's). About the only people
who had a use for a $100,000 video machine were TV broadcasters, so there
wasn't an enormous market. They might have sold to Sony. One of these days
I'll have to dig that article out and look it over again.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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04 Oct 2003 06:36:30 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:12:10 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:hbupnvobdk7u26kbn31rq9i74tn6t1dtm3@Pern.rk:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:59:17 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
I bet she's not aware that there's no American manufacturer of VCR's.
Sure, an American company developed the technology
Which one? JVC or Sony? :)
Ampex (or Ampeg?)--back in the 1960, early '70s if I'm remembering the
article right
Tape cylinders then reel-to-reel tape. Totally different formats and
technologies from cassettes. (You can even see when a show is played
back [or dubbed] from an old cylinder recording. There's a vertical
break somewhere in the picture - a very thin black line. That's the
seam where the ends of the cylinder were spliced.)
JVC developed VHS; Sony developed Beta.
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soul's place in hell, so yours could go to Heaven. Don't hold your breath."
- John Popelish
&
"The United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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04 Oct 2003 06:48:58 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:35munvguou8eibuccc46gcvbtg90jdqbjj@Pern.rk:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 09:12:10 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:hbupnvobdk7u26kbn31rq9i74tn6t1dtm3@Pern.rk:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:59:17 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
I bet she's not aware that there's no American manufacturer of VCR's.
Sure, an American company developed the technology
Which one? JVC or Sony? :)
Ampex (or Ampeg?)--back in the 1960, early '70s if I'm remembering the
article right
Tape cylinders then reel-to-reel tape. Totally different formats and
technologies from cassettes. (You can even see when a show is played
back [or dubbed] from an old cylinder recording. There's a vertical
break somewhere in the picture - a very thin black line. That's the
seam where the ends of the cylinder were spliced.)
JVC developed VHS; Sony developed Beta.
*nod* I don't know how much of the basics Ampex developed--could it have
been the spinning video head?
I've lost a lot of my old interest in tech and electronics in the last 10
years; those places in memory where it resided are slowly filling with
things like kayaks and bass playing ;)
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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06 Oct 2003 01:36:40 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:48:58 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
JVC developed VHS; Sony developed Beta.
*nod* I don't know how much of the basics Ampex developed--could it have
been the spinning video head?
Uh, kind of. The head spun down around the inside of the cylinder,
from what I remember. But it was totally different technology.
I've lost a lot of my old interest in tech and electronics in the last 10
years; those places in memory where it resided are slowly filling with
things like kayaks and bass playing ;)
I still fondly remember holding the brake on a color wheel to watch
color TV being broadcast by CBS.
--
"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not merely tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
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| User: "raven1" |
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03 Oct 2003 12:37:37 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:59:17 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Funny how people like her seem to wish for a return to those pre-Ozzy and
Harriet days of isolationism.
Ozzy and Harriet?!? Does Sharon know about this?
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02 Oct 2003 10:21:26 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:01:48 +0000, J. White wrote:
I don't know if it's because she's a fundie (and therefore got her brain
switched off by religion) or because she's just utterly stupid.
Last night (Tuesday) we were doing an inventory at the local baptist
hospital gift shop. She was griping about having to write up the time
sheet in "military" time--"I HATE military time!" she said. I immediately
thought of the non-military organizations that use it--astronomers, for
example-- and told her that it's actually "Universal" time. She scoffed
and replied, "We don't need anyone else's time! We're a nation unto
ourself!"
Sheesh.
I bet she doesn't even realize that if it weren't for the brave workers
*cough* in China, she wouldn't have the American flag she waves so proudly
from the window of her Company van.
For that matter, it's a good bet she has no idea just how the economy and
the company rely on things like Japanese-made cell phones and laptops. If
the U.S. built a wall as she seems to think it should, excluding all
foreign trade, then the big stores we do inventory at wouldn't last very
long.
Wait until she finds out that hospitals measure temps in *Celsius* AND use
military time. She may just want to stay home the next time she gets
sick.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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02 Oct 2003 10:38:40 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:21:26 GMT in alt.atheism, MarkA ("MarkA"
<manthony@stopspam.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:01:48 +0000, J. White wrote:
I don't know if it's because she's a fundie (and therefore got her brain
switched off by religion) or because she's just utterly stupid.
Last night (Tuesday) we were doing an inventory at the local baptist
hospital gift shop. She was griping about having to write up the time
sheet in "military" time--"I HATE military time!" she said. I immediately
thought of the non-military organizations that use it--astronomers, for
example-- and told her that it's actually "Universal" time. She scoffed
and replied, "We don't need anyone else's time! We're a nation unto
ourself!"
Sheesh.
I bet she doesn't even realize that if it weren't for the brave workers
*cough* in China, she wouldn't have the American flag she waves so proudly
from the window of her Company van.
For that matter, it's a good bet she has no idea just how the economy and
the company rely on things like Japanese-made cell phones and laptops. If
the U.S. built a wall as she seems to think it should, excluding all
foreign trade, then the big stores we do inventory at wouldn't last very
long.
Wait until she finds out that hospitals measure temps in *Celsius* AND use
military time. She may just want to stay home the next time she gets
sick.
When you're talking about military time, presumably you mean "Zulu
Time" complete with those funny clocks that go 360 degrees in 24
hours?
It's GMT of course. Which is there were a God is what He would have
intended, God being an Englishman and so on. We only allowed it to be
called "UTC" to further confuse you, and if WWIII should start, it had
better be done after we've had breakfast.
Or are we talking a git here who can't add or subtract 12 hours as
appropriate, i.e. 8pm = 20:00?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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02 Oct 2003 11:21:26 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 16:38:40 +0100, Therion Ware wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:21:26 GMT in alt.atheism, MarkA ("MarkA"
<manthony@stopspam.net>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 05:01:48 +0000, J. White wrote:
I don't know if it's because she's a fundie (and therefore got her
brain switched off by religion) or because she's just utterly stupid.
Last night (Tuesday) we were doing an inventory at the local baptist
hospital gift shop. She was griping about having to write up the time
sheet in "military" time--"I HATE military time!" she said. I
immediately thought of the non-military organizations that use
it--astronomers, for example-- and told her that it's actually
"Universal" time. She scoffed and replied, "We don't need anyone else's
time! We're a nation unto ourself!"
Sheesh.
I bet she doesn't even realize that if it weren't for the brave workers
*cough* in China, she wouldn't have the American flag she waves so
proudly from the window of her Company van.
For that matter, it's a good bet she has no idea just how the economy
and the company rely on things like Japanese-made cell phones and
laptops. If the U.S. built a wall as she seems to think it should,
excluding all foreign trade, then the big stores we do inventory at
wouldn't last very long.
Wait until she finds out that hospitals measure temps in *Celsius* AND
use military time. She may just want to stay home the next time she gets
sick.
When you're talking about military time, presumably you mean "Zulu Time"
complete with those funny clocks that go 360 degrees in 24 hours?
It's GMT of course. Which is there were a God is what He would have
intended, God being an Englishman and so on. We only allowed it to be
called "UTC" to further confuse you, and if WWIII should start, it had
better be done after we've had breakfast.
Or are we talking a git here who can't add or subtract 12 hours as
appropriate, i.e. 8pm = 20:00?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You." - Attrib: Pauline
Reage.
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<http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD. all posts to this
email address are automatically deleted without being read. ** atheist
poster child #1 ** #442.
Ask her if she wants you to correct for "leap seconds" when necessary.
--
MarkA
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02 Oct 2003 06:50:46 PM |
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Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:j9honvgl7qq8464a26pkitm89tbj9g1hj6@4ax.com:
Or are we talking a git here who can't add or subtract 12 hours as
appropriate, i.e. 8pm = 20:00?
We're talking about a git (gitette?) who doesn't want to be bothered with
using the 24-hour format. She's one of those who does things a certain way
because it's "always" been done that way. Inches, miles, pounds, AMERICAN
TIME, all that jazz. Though she wouldn't listen to jazz--that's devil music
that makes people "do things."
She'd freak out if she had to deal with one of those 360-degree in 24 hours
clocks.
Hell, she probably thinks Greenwich Mean Time means the city in
Connecticut, not that other one in that other country we don't need.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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03 Oct 2003 09:16:05 PM |
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:50:46 GMT, "J. White"
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:j9honvgl7qq8464a26pkitm89tbj9g1hj6@4ax.com:
Or are we talking a git here who can't add or subtract 12 hours as
appropriate, i.e. 8pm = 20:00?
We're talking about a git (gitette?) who doesn't want to be bothered with
using the 24-hour format. She's one of those who does things a certain way
because it's "always" been done that way. Inches, miles, pounds, AMERICAN
TIME, all that jazz.
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
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"If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, mother, wife, brothers, and sisters and even himself, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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04 Oct 2003 02:11:25 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 02:16:05 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 23:50:46 GMT, "J. White"
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> posted in alt.atheism:
Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in
news:j9honvgl7qq8464a26pkitm89tbj9g1hj6@4ax.com:
Or are we talking a git here who can't add or subtract 12 hours as
appropriate, i.e. 8pm = 20:00?
We're talking about a git (gitette?) who doesn't want to be bothered with
using the 24-hour format. She's one of those who does things a certain way
because it's "always" been done that way. Inches, miles, pounds, AMERICAN
TIME, all that jazz.
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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04 Oct 2003 09:34:28 AM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, a stranger
called by some Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
I annoy people by dating things AUC. (The Roman calender, "year of
the city")
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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04 Oct 2003 09:39:32 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:34:28 GMT in alt.atheism, Douglas Berry
(Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, a stranger
called by some Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
I annoy people by dating things AUC. (The Roman calender, "year of
the city")
So it's .... the year 2756, give or take?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
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04 Oct 2003 06:27:50 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 04 Oct 2003 15:39:32 +0100, a stranger
called by some Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
I annoy people by dating things AUC. (The Roman calender, "year of
the city")
So it's .... the year 2756, give or take?
Yup.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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04 Oct 2003 10:02:51 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 14:34:28 GMT in alt.atheism, Douglas Berry
(Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com>) said, directing
the reply to alt.atheism
Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, a stranger
called by some Therion Ware <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> came forth
and told this tale in alt.atheism
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
I annoy people by dating things AUC. (The Roman calender, "year of
the city")
So it's .... the year 2756, give or take?
Naaahhhhhh, more like 63,017
Year after humans started recording stuff on cave walls and the like.
You know, after we became sort of literate. And recorded history started.
Drives my fundy coworkers nuts, "You men humans have been recording
their story for LONGER then 6,000 years?". They sure can screw their
faces up into funny shapes when they try.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 ULC Minister
Home School Educator for Computer Science
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
04 Oct 2003 06:32:41 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
05 Oct 2003 12:53:37 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:32:41 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
It's commonly said, but is the US school system really that bad? Here
in the UK it's a popular moan that "schools isn't like it was in my
day...," and that standards are slipping ("A" levels allegedly getting
easier and so on) but not one with much foundation as far as I can
see.
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| User: "Mark W" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
05 Oct 2003 10:01:08 AM |
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"Therion Ware" <autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote in message
news:78cvnv89u2iaid0a6560f2el3gosb6c9l3@4ax.com...
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:32:41 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in
feet and inches.
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
It's commonly said, but is the US school system really that bad? Here
in the UK it's a popular moan that "schools isn't like it was in my
day...," and that standards are slipping ("A" levels allegedly getting
easier and so on) but not one with much foundation as far as I can
see.
I know Science A-Levels didn't get easier. I did mine a few years back, and
we could practise on ones all the way back to 1980 and get equally good
marks.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
06 Oct 2003 01:42:21 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:53:37 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:32:41 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
It's commonly said, but is the US school system really that bad? Here
in the UK it's a popular moan that "schools isn't like it was in my
day...," and that standards are slipping ("A" levels allegedly getting
easier and so on) but not one with much foundation as far as I can
see.
I don't think the teaching is getting much worse, although math is
being taught very badly, English seems to be optional and science is
being taught by teachers who took a semester of General Science in
college.
But the lack of retention seems to be widening. Those who compete in
the Intel Science Search (or whatever they've renamed it these days)
are still probably among the brightest and best educated people on the
planet, but the ratio of them to the ones who retain only enough to
get by ("I can't make change - the register is broke [sic]") seems to
be getting lower.
We have a few hundred foreigners where I work (most of the employees
are immigrants), and they seem to be better educated, about most
things, than the American kids we hire and, for the most part, aren't
sad to see go after a year or two.
Or maybe it's just my Aristotelian pessimism setting in? (Was it he
who commented about the dissolution of youth?)
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fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
06 Oct 2003 03:46:33 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:nid3ov0prdmo329pnikc5tpnja5cvqui9r@Pern.rk...
On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:53:37 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:32:41 GMT in alt.atheism, Al Klein (Al Klein
<rukbat@pern.invalid>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
It's commonly said, but is the US school system really that bad? Here
in the UK it's a popular moan that "schools isn't like it was in my
day...," and that standards are slipping ("A" levels allegedly getting
easier and so on) but not one with much foundation as far as I can
see.
I don't think the teaching is getting much worse, although math is
being taught very badly, English seems to be optional and science is
being taught by teachers who took a semester of General Science in
college.
Math seems, with rare exception to always be taught badly.
In 1981 I worked at a HS where the math and science teacher taught by rote
and only the English teacher did any problem solving work.
The Junior Varsity coach was put into teaching a remedial math class to
incoming freshmen and *he* couldn't do the math.
Among the harder questions: "What percent of 16 is 4?"
But there were a few bright ones.
I had one of my kids write (on his own time and because he asked for a
challenge) a complete payroll package that did California and Fed taxes.
Federal is easy.
He did it in Visi-calc on a TRS Model III.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
06 Oct 2003 08:50:20 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:46:33 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mdotpainter@att.net>
posted in alt.atheism:
Math seems, with rare exception to always be taught badly.
I was taught math in the 50s, before "the new math" and all that crap.
We learned to use math, and we learned math itself. But the attitude
was that learning, for its own sake, was worth pursuing. And it was
fun, for the most part.
Not just me - a whole school full of students, about 6,000 at a time,
IIRC.
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soul's place in hell, so yours could go to Heaven. Don't hold your breath."
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
05 Oct 2003 10:25:41 AM |
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On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:32:41 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in feet
and inches.
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
I think the educational system could be improved (mostly by improving the
quality of students entering into it). The REAl problem, though, is
intellectual inertia coupled with cultural chauvinism.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: *Grumble* Ignorant Boss... |
06 Oct 2003 01:44:58 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:25:41 GMT, "MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net>
posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:32:41 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 08:11:25 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> posted in alt.atheism:
And she doesn't realize that the AMERICAN armed forces use the 24 hour
clock?
They're probably not True Americans. True Americans tell the time in feet
and inches.
Sad but likely true, Therion. Most Americans have retained a most
inadequate education.
I think the educational system could be improved (mostly by improving the
quality of students entering into it). The REAl problem, though, is
intellectual inertia coupled with cultural chauvinism.
There's a little bit of parental attitude to blame also. The attitude
that it's the school's job, not the parents', to educate the children.
The attitude that, regardless of how much the kids retain, they still
won't amount to anything, so why should the kids bother, and why
should the parents push them. Then, of course, there are those kids
who are, in all but name, orphans - that doesn't help either.
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