"Beelzebull" <beelzebull@hell.edu.gov> wrote in message
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Guide to God, part 40/41: Conclusion

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Conclusion

Knowing God: If you are walking down the street and you
see a perfect stranger, do you trust him? The only logical
answer is, "Since I don't know the person, I have no reason
to trust him and no reason to distrust him." Therefore, if
you don't know God, you can't fairly judge Him.

A funny thing about that 'stranger': I may or may not 'trust' that
individual (to do *what* you haven't stated). But I can sure as hell reach
out and touch him or her, talk to him or her, and from body language and the
inflection in that person's voice come to a reasonable conclusion about that
individual. (We even form 'impressions' of other members of this NG without
having ever met that person or corresponded with them other than to post
here. Fair or not, that's how it works.

Now with 'God' on the other hand: What am I supposed to do? He's completely
imaginary. He's make-believe. Not a single theist in the history of mankind
has ever demonstrated that this imaginary creature is, in fact, 'real'. So
what are you talking about? What does the *complete* absence of evidence for
the existence of Mr. Triune 'God' -- or a deity of *any* persuasion, for
that matter, tell you? Go ahead and lie and tell the people who frequent
this NG that you have 'solid' evidence that 'God' exists. Go on. Go tell the
biggest 'whopper' that has ever come out of your mouth. It's simply not
true.

It would

be unfair to judge God before you know Him.

How's that? 'Before you *know* him? Do you realize just how deluded that
sounds? Haven't you the foggiest? Where in the hell is he? Believers and
non-believers alike should at least be able to detect him in *some*
discernable form. Yet, nothing. And I mean *nothing*! You're deluded. You
just can't face that fact, that's all. That would be okay if it weren't for
the fact that people like you are hell-bent on trying to turn 'normal'
people into something like you. No thanks! You people are SO off the mark it
isn't even funny. But our youth. Our poor youth. You people are abusing them
with your rubbish. Why don't you leave them alone and let them formulate
their *own* opinons about what is 'real' and not real.

God reveals

Himself in His word.

That's a bunch of crap. The bible is no more 'divinely inspired' than the
menu at your favorite local restaurant. Where is your head?

If you want to know God, you must

personally study His word with the Holy Spirit as your
guide.

No thanks. I quit hitting the bottle a long time ago. (And I'm a better man
for it. [Wish I could drink in moderation though. But I admit that I
can't].)

Proving The Existence Of God: If you wish to receive life
eternal from God, you must form a personal relationship with
Him.

Said with such *authority*! Why don't you prove he even exists in the first
place? Don't you think that would be a good starting point to form this
'personal relationship' with deity? What a load. You're having a
'relationship' alright -- with your imagination! And it's very un-becoming,
you know. But again, you are free to believe anything you want. That is
certainly your perogative. But would you at least come to the table with
some real 'proof' for you claims before declaring the ridiculous to be the
'truth'?

Therefore, it is the task of each individual to prove

the existence of God to himself:

How about this one: All you Jesus people from around the entire world pick a
designated time where you all fervently pray -- in unison, and with the
utmost sincerity -- for the most devout 'believer' you can find that's
missing a limb, and have 'God' miraculously restore that missing limb
through your 'loving' prayers. Would that be too difficult for you?

Now you *know* that no 'God' could do any such thing -- even if you prayed
for a week straight and sacrificed some rams, sheep; lambs; 'vigin' lambs
(or whatever) along with chanting, singing, fasting and any other oddball
'religious' thing you can think of. Now face it. Even *you* must admit that
it will never 'work'. And for a very simple reason: because Mr. 'God' is as
bogus as it gets. Go ahead. Prove me right.


"Test all things; hold

fast what is good." [1 Thessalonians 5:21]

Who cares what a con-artist who told his 'followers' that Jesus'
second-coming would occur in his (Paul's) lifetime says? This is the same
guy who claims Jesus made him an 'apostle' when the 'real' apostles knew
nothing of a sort. (Another one of those famous instances where 'God' worked
in 'mysterious ways'?

To expect

someone else to prove to you the existence of God is an
expression of laziness and a deliberate avoidance of your
own personal responsibility:

Try telling the truth. *You* couldn't 'prove' the existence of 'God' to save
your *life*. Now you're telling others that *they* have to prove him 'true'.
What a lame cop-out.


"But from there you will seek

the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him
with all your heart and with all your soul."
[Deuteronomy 4:29]

Hey! Isn't that the same book that is claimed to have been written by
noneother than Moses himself; that book where he says he died and *no one*
knows where he is buried to this day? And you expect people to believe the
crap you're espousing is actually 'true'???


Some people do not desire to find God

for the same reason a criminal does not wish to find a
police officer.

What crap. Show us 'God'. We mortals would then have the choice of whether
or not to worhip and adore him. But let's see Mr. Figment of Your
Imagination first. You're trying to make the argument that atheists and
other non-believers are doing their absolute best *not* to seek evidence for
his existence. How long have you frequented this NG? Five nanoseconds? You
should know only too well that we atheists have been absolutely *begging*
and *pleading* you theists to provide us with proof of his existence. Yet
all you Jesus people have been able to come up with is ... well, when you
actually think about it, is ... *NOTHING*!!

However, whereas the officer may throw you

into prison, God is willing to set you free from the bondage
of sin and permit you to begin anew.

Didn't you forget about a place called *HELL*!!? And speaking of the
(imaginary) place: You theists have never answered the question as to what
'God' would do if 'Satan' were to saunter up to 'God' one day (like he did
when he and 'God' had their wager on 'Job') and beg to be forgiven for his
past 'crimes'. If he did this out of true 'repentance' -- and I mean out of
the most intense repentence an entity could possibly generate? Would 'God'
say, 'Nope'? If so, why no forgiveness?

Freedom And Covenant: Each man is free to do as he pleases.
There is only one circumstance under which a man's freedoms
are restricted: When he chooses to inherit life eternal as
prescribed by the LORD God,

This stuff actually makes me feel like you people are from another planet.

he is obligated to live the

remainder of his life according to the Standard which brings
life: The Ten Commandments.

The Message Reiterated: The message of God is simple:
"I set before you life and death. Choose life that you
may live. Life comes through the keeping of the Ten
Commandments. He who keeps the Ten Commandments shall
inherit life eternal; he who refuses to keep the Ten
Commandments earns death eternal, for the wages of sin is
death; and sin is the trangression of the commandments."

God's Expectation Of Man: "He has shown you, O man, what
is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do
justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?"
[Micah 6:8]

In Conclusion: "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole
matter: Fear God

There we go with the 'fear' again. Why didn't you use the word 'Love'
instead?

and keep His commandments, for this is

the whole duty of man. For God will bring every work into
judgement, including every secret thing, whether it is good
or whether it is evil." [Ecclesiastes 12:13-14] "Remember
your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, or the golden
bowl is broken, or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, or
the wheel broken at the well. Then the dust will return to
the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who
gave it." [Ecclesiastes 12:6-7]

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I was going to quote a passage from my Telephone Directory but that probably
wouldn't be 'inspirational' enough for your tastes, would it? Remember:
Spare the kids. Would you please?

Greywolf