Religions > Atheism > Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.)
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Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.) |
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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17 Apr 2007 07:31:02 PM |
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<1176855088.191627.290220@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented
broadcast on alt.atheism:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
The best argument for gun control is that the gunhuggers are
racists, nutcases, hate groups, and neonazis like you.
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| User: "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" |
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17 Apr 2007 08:28:37 PM |
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"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
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<1176855088.191627.290220@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented
broadcast on alt.atheism:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
The best argument for gun control is that the gunhuggers are
racists, nutcases, hate groups, and neonazis like you.
As opposed to the law abiding Virginia Tech student, I suppose...
LG
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them that the terrorists are interfering with a woman's right to choose or
that commercial jetliners exploding in midair are a threat to America's
wetlands. - Ann Coulter
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| User: "Nick D." |
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17 Apr 2007 08:33:44 PM |
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"Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lordgow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
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<1176855088.191627.290220@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
the lovely and talented
broadcast on alt.atheism:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
The best argument for gun control is that the gunhuggers are
racists, nutcases, hate groups, and neonazis like you.
As opposed to the law abiding Virginia Tech student, I suppose...
Not at all. He did mention "nutcases"
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| User: "Jordan" |
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17 Apr 2007 08:39:34 PM |
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On Apr 17, 5:31 pm, Lars Eighner <use...@larseighner.com> wrote:
The best argument for gun control is that the gunhuggers are
racists, nutcases, hate groups, and neonazis like you.
All the more reason for Democrats to own guns. Do you want the only
gun owners to be racists, nutcases, hate groups and neo-nazis? :^)
- Jordan
/Lifelong Liberal
//Card carrying Democrat
///Gun owner
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| User: "the Bede" |
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17 Apr 2007 07:22:28 PM |
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<topicalconversationandinsight@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century.
yes, the Neo-Cons.
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| User: "El Asso WIpo" |
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18 Apr 2007 10:09:04 AM |
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I AM THE GREAT EL ASSO WIPO! I AM SEARCHING FOR MY GREATEST ENEMY,
SENOR BAGOF CRAP!! WHEN I FIND HIM! I WILL BREAK HIS BACK!!
LLLLLLLLLLLIKE SO!!! WWWWWWWWWWITH MY KNEE!!!!!
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| User: "Dan" |
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18 Apr 2007 12:43:37 AM |
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Interesting to note that all these antisemitic types aren't very bright.
Cause and effect? Or just coincidence?
Good doctoral dissertation subject, at least...
Dan
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| User: "Pepe Papon" |
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18 Apr 2007 04:00:43 AM |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:43:37 -0700, Dan <dnadan56@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting to note that all these antisemitic types aren't very bright.
antisemitic types were introduced by communist jews immigrating from
eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Cause and effect? Or just coincidence?
Good doctoral dissertation subject, at least...
Dan
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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18 Apr 2007 05:10:40 AM |
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On Apr 18, 10:00 am, Pepe Papon <a...@mindspring.invalid> wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:43:37 -0700, Dan <dnada...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting to note that all these antisemitic types aren't very bright.
antisemitic types were introduced by communist jews immigrating from
eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Q.E.D.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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18 Apr 2007 05:25:29 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:00:43 GMT, Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:43:37 -0700, Dan <dnadan56@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting to note that all these antisemitic types aren't very bright.
antisemitic types were introduced by communist jews immigrating from
eastern europe in the early 20th century.
I think you've more or less just proved his point, Pepito.
Cause and effect? Or just coincidence?
Good doctoral dissertation subject, at least...
Dan
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| User: "Pepe Papon" |
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18 Apr 2007 07:52:15 PM |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:25:29 -0400, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:00:43 GMT, Pepe Papon <a@mindspring.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:43:37 -0700, Dan <dnadan56@hotmail.com> wrote:
Interesting to note that all these antisemitic types aren't very bright.
antisemitic types were introduced by communist jews immigrating from
eastern europe in the early 20th century.
I think you've more or less just proved his point, Pepito.
I think there are a couple of people in this thread who forgot to turn
on their sarcasm detectors.
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MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
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| User: "El Asso WIpo" |
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18 Apr 2007 10:10:28 AM |
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JORDAN EATS THE CORN AND PEANUTS OUT OF POO WITH A SPORK
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| User: "John Baker" |
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17 Apr 2007 11:47:32 PM |
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On 17 Apr 2007 17:11:28 -0700,
topicalconversationandinsight@hotmail.com wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
No, son. Gun control is a misguided effort by well-meaning but
frightened people to make themselves feel safer. They erroneously
believe that by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, they'll
take them out of the hands of criminals and wack jobs as well. They
won't.
And by the way, Skippy. Lots of "lefties" oppose gun control.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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18 Apr 2007 12:54:06 AM |
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On 18 avr, 06:47, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 17:11:28 -0700,
topicalconversationandinsi...@hotmail.com wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
No, son. Gun control is a misguided effort by well-meaning but
frightened people to make themselves feel safer. They erroneously
believe that by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, they'll
take them out of the hands of criminals and wack jobs as well. They
won't.
And by the way, Skippy. Lots of "lefties" oppose gun control.
What is it with Americans and guns?
I'm not American, I don't live in the USA, no one I know owns guns, no
one I know feels he/she need guns... So tell me, "son", who's
frightened? Certainly not me...
So obviously the 30 000 deaths caused by guns every year in the USA
are not important enough to try to improve the situation...
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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18 Apr 2007 02:07:30 AM |
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Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:
:So obviously the 30 000 deaths caused by guns every year in the USA
There aren't any deaths "caused by guns". We're immune to the mind
control rays from inanimate objects over here.
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"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
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| User: "jJim McLaughlin" |
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18 Apr 2007 08:45:17 PM |
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Parsifal wrote:
On 18 avr, 06:47, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 17:11:28 -0700,
topicalconversationandinsi...@hotmail.com wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
No, son. Gun control is a misguided effort by well-meaning but
frightened people to make themselves feel safer. They erroneously
believe that by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, they'll
take them out of the hands of criminals and wack jobs as well. They
won't.
And by the way, Skippy. Lots of "lefties" oppose gun control.
What is it with Americans and guns?
I'm not American, I don't live in the USA, no one I know owns guns, no
one I know feels he/she need guns... So tell me, "son", who's
frightened? Certainly not me...
So obviously the 30 000 deaths caused by guns every year in the USA
Cite?
are not important enough to try to improve the situation...
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| User: "Hal" |
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19 Apr 2007 10:47:37 AM |
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On Apr 18, 9:45 pm, jJim McLaughlin <jimm.claugh...@comcast.com>
wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
On 18 avr, 06:47, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 17:11:28 -0700,
topicalconversationandinsi...@hotmail.com wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
No, son. Gun control is a misguided effort by well-meaning but
frightened people to make themselves feel safer. They erroneously
believe that by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, they'll
take them out of the hands of criminals and wack jobs as well. They
won't.
And by the way, Skippy. Lots of "lefties" oppose gun control.
What is it with Americans and guns?
I'm not American, I don't live in the USA, no one I know owns guns, no
one I know feels he/she need guns... So tell me, "son", who's
frightened? Certainly not me...
So obviously the 30 000 deaths caused by guns every year in the USA
Cite?
That figure is almost ten years old. I haven't heard that it has
dropped, have you?
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/factsheets/?page=firefacts
You cross post to the strangest combinations of NG's. I got rid of the
sports fans.
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| User: "Relic" |
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18 Apr 2007 02:12:03 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
On 18 avr, 06:47, John Baker <n...@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 17:11:28 -0700,
topicalconversationandinsi...@hotmail.com wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
No, son. Gun control is a misguided effort by well-meaning but
frightened people to make themselves feel safer. They erroneously
believe that by taking guns away from law abiding citizens, they'll
take them out of the hands of criminals and wack jobs as well. They
won't.
And by the way, Skippy. Lots of "lefties" oppose gun control.
What is it with Americans and guns?
I'm not American, I don't live in the USA, no one I know owns guns, no
one I know feels he/she need guns... So tell me, "son", who's
frightened? Certainly not me...
So obviously the 30 000 deaths caused by guns every year in the USA
are not important enough to try to improve the situation...
As opposed to the stupid fucks who hold those guns...It's the guns
that control their thought? And if you are not American, how would
you know anything about "Americans and guns"? (and for the record,
I don't own a gun, and haven't fired one in a good 20 years)
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| User: "Jordan" |
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17 Apr 2007 08:37:53 PM |
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On Apr 17, 5:11 pm, wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Hate to break it to you, but the 2nd amendment is all about gun
control. So sayeth the court system.
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm
Some good ones:
United States vs. Miller 1939:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
contribute to the common defense."
United States v. Cruikshank 1876:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC12
"The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed; but
this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be
infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no
other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,
leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation
by their fellow-citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is
called, in The City of New York v. Miln, the "powers which relate to
merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly
called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the
Constitution of the United States."
There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
- Jordan
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17 Apr 2007 11:55:55 PM |
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Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
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:United States vs. Miller 1939:
:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
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:"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
:of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
:at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
:efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
:Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
:Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
:part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
:contribute to the common defense."
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:There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
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Of course, it's also interesting that while its logic may be correct
it reasons from a false premise. 'Trench brooms' (short barrel
shotguns) were a common military weapon not all that long before
Miller was decided.
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"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer
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| User: "Dan" |
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18 Apr 2007 12:47:00 AM |
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
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:United States vs. Miller 1939:
:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
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:"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
:of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
:at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
:efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
:Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
:Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
:part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
:contribute to the common defense."
:
:There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
:
Of course, it's also interesting that while its logic may be correct
it reasons from a false premise. 'Trench brooms' (short barrel
shotguns) were a common military weapon not all that long before
Miller was decided.
Funny, I thought the Thompson submachine gun was the "trench broom."
Guess the designation applied to more than one weapon type...
Dan
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| User: "John Baker" |
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18 Apr 2007 05:26:35 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:55:55 GMT, Fred J. McCall
<fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
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:United States vs. Miller 1939:
:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
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:"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
:of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
:at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
:efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
:Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
:Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
:part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
:contribute to the common defense."
:
:There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
:
Of course, it's also interesting that while its logic may be correct
it reasons from a false premise. 'Trench brooms' (short barrel
shotguns) were a common military weapon not all that long before
Miller was decided.
Fred, I think we're on the same side on this issue, but hey. I just
can't take anybody who quotes 'Buffy' seriously. <G>
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18 Apr 2007 08:31:56 AM |
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John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
:On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:55:55 GMT, Fred J. McCall
:<fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
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:>Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>:
:>:United States vs. Miller 1939:
:>:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
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:>:"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
:>:of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
:>:at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
:>:efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
:>:Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
:>:Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
:>:part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
:>:contribute to the common defense."
:>
:>:
:>:There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
:>:
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:>Of course, it's also interesting that while its logic may be correct
:>it reasons from a false premise. 'Trench brooms' (short barrel
:>shotguns) were a common military weapon not all that long before
:>Miller was decided.
:
:Fred, I think we're on the same side on this issue, but hey. I just
:can't take anybody who quotes 'Buffy' seriously. <G>
:
Ah well, to each his own. It was a funny show with some great lines.
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"Oooo, scary! Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
-- Buffy the vampire
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| User: "Kazimierez" |
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18 Apr 2007 09:17:07 AM |
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Good posts Jordan.
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18 Apr 2007 11:17:21 AM |
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In article <0d7c235ra3kksrcss3c8a7rkvecfujua69@4ax.com> writes:
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
:On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:55:55 GMT, Fred J. McCall
:< > wrote:
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:>Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
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:>:United States vs. Miller 1939:
:>:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
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:>:"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
:>:of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
:>:at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
:>:efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
:>:Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
:>:Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
:>:part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
:>:contribute to the common defense."
:>
:>:
:>:There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
:>:
:>
:>Of course, it's also interesting that while its logic may be correct
:>it reasons from a false premise. 'Trench brooms' (short barrel
:>shotguns) were a common military weapon not all that long before
:>Miller was decided.
:
:Fred, I think we're on the same side on this issue, but hey. I just
:can't take anybody who quotes 'Buffy' seriously. <G>
:
Ah well, to each his own. It was a funny show with some great lines.
--
"Oooo, scary! Y'know, there are a lot scarier things
in the world than you ... and I'm one of them."
-- Buffy the vampire
"In some language that's English"?
-- ditto
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| User: "jJim McLaughlin" |
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| Title: Re: Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.) |
17 Apr 2007 10:13:29 PM |
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Jordan wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:11 pm, wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Hate to break it to you, but the 2nd amendment is all about gun
control. So sayeth the court system.
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm
Some good ones:
United States vs. Miller 1939:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
contribute to the common defense."
United States v. Cruikshank 1876:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC12
"The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed; but
this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be
infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no
other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,
leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation
by their fellow-citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is
called, in The City of New York v. Miln, the "powers which relate to
merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly
called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the
Constitution of the United States."
There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
- Jordan
Well, Cruickshank doesn't survive the 14th Amendment, which made
amendments 1 - 10 binding upon and applicable to state actions.
Miller has been distinguished into oblivion, mst recently by the DC
Circuit in finding D the District o Columbia's out right ban on handguns
facially uncnstitutional.
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| User: "Pepe Papon" |
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| Title: Re: Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.) |
18 Apr 2007 03:58:43 AM |
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On 17 Apr 2007 18:37:53 -0700, Jordan <lundj@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:11 pm, wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Hate to break it to you, but the 2nd amendment is all about gun
control. So sayeth the court system.
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm
But the court system is controlled by communist jews immigrating from
eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Some good ones:
United States vs. Miller 1939:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
contribute to the common defense."
United States v. Cruikshank 1876:
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC12
"The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed; but
this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be
infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no
other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,
leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation
by their fellow-citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is
called, in The City of New York v. Miln, the "powers which relate to
merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly
called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the
Constitution of the United States."
There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
- Jordan
--
~ Seth Jackson
MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
Songwriting and Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.) |
18 Apr 2007 10:16:15 AM |
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On Apr 17, 9:37 pm, Jordan <l...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hate to break it to you, but the 2nd amendment is all about gun
control. So sayeth the court system.
[snip]
There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
- Jordan
Careful here. Washington, DC's long-standing ban on firearms was
recently overturned by the DC Circuit Court (Parker v. District of
Columbia, 2007), and the court specifically rejected the "well
regulated militia" clause that was the foundation of Miller. (I'm not
saying I agree, but that's what happened.) DC has vowed to appeal all
the way to the Supreme Court, and this case could result in the high
court, once and for all, ruling on the Second Amendment relative to
handguns. I think you'll find that today's court is MUCH different
from that of 1939.
By the way, I'm not a gun nut, and I went to Virginia Tech. My
freshman-year dorm (Pritchard) was next to Ambler Johnston, I had two
classes in Norris, and I later lived in Centreville, Virginia, home of
two victims and the shooter. I am connected to this tragedy, and I
agree that we have an absurd gun-slinging culture in this country and
that hard-line gun-rights activists have done nothing -- and will do
nothing -- to temper that mentality. But I remain objective about the
Constitution nonetheless.
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| User: "TenderRage" |
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| Title: Re: Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.) |
17 Apr 2007 09:24:39 PM |
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On Apr 17, 9:37 pm, Jordan <l...@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Apr 17, 5:11 pm, wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century.
Hate to break it to you, but the 2nd amendment is all about gun
control. So sayeth the court system.
http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm
Some good ones:
United States vs. Miller 1939:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC11
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use
of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length"
at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or
efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second
Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.
Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any
part of the ordinary military equipment or that its use could
contribute to the common defense."
United States v. Cruikshank 1876:http://www.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/sources.htm#TOC12
"The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed; but
this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be
infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no
other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,
leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation
by their fellow-citizens of the rights it recognizes, to what is
called, in The City of New York v. Miln, the "powers which relate to
merely municipal legislation, or what was, perhaps, more properly
called internal police," "not surrendered or restrained" by the
Constitution of the United States."
There are much, much more. But the Miller case is probably definitive.
- Jordan
Good post in light of how this thread began. There's no argument from
me on the need for gun control. I can understand ownership in very
rural areas and I understand and respect those who hunt not just for
sport.
But who is to know when someone who might be seen as "normal" at the
time is going to snap and go postal?
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| User: "Darth Chaos" |
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| Title: Re: Gun control is a JEWISH COMMUNISTO evil(the va school schootings.) |
18 Apr 2007 12:26:48 PM |
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On Apr 17, 8:11 pm, wrote:
Gun control was introduced into this country by communist jews
immigrating frrom eastern europe in the early 20th century. Communism
was inventee by jews, and gun control was one of the most important
aspects of communism because communists wanted to destroy the
constitution and take away the freedom of religion, freedom of speech,
every other basic freedom and then put innocent people in gulags (once
the jewish communists became the ruling party that is). Jewish
communists knew that they could not destroy the constitution and take
away freedom of the press, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, etc
if peoiple had the means andf ability to protect their lives, so gubn
control was essential in making the people helpless to fight back
against communis,. Tghis is why gun control is associated with the
left wing in America, and why leftwingers in this country want to take
away guns.
It ain't the "Zionists".....it's the Illuminati and Freemasons. :)
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