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User: "Fredric L. Rice"
Date: 28 Oct 2005 11:14:10 AM
Object: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/27/D8DGIS500.html
Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration
Oct 27 3:43 PM US/Eastern
FREDERICA, Del.
The apparent suicide of a woman found hanging from a tree went unreported
for hours because passers-by thought the body was a Halloween decoration,
authorities said.
The 42-year-old woman used rope to hang herself across the street from
some homes on a moderately busy road late Tuesday or early Wednesday,
state police said.
The body, suspended about 15 feet above the ground, could be easily seen
from passing vehicles.
State police spokesman Cpl. Jeff Oldham and neighbors said people noticed
the body at breakfast time Wednesday but dismissed it as a holiday prank.
Authorities were called to the scene more than three hours later.
"They thought it was a Halloween decoration,"
Fay Glanden, wife of Mayor William Glanden, told The (Wilmington) News
Journal.
"It looked like something somebody would have rigged up," she said.
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User: "Midjis"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 28 Oct 2005 11:59:05 AM
(Fredric L. Rice) wrote:

The apparent suicide of a woman found hanging from a tree went
unreported for hours because passers-by thought the body was a
Halloween decoration, authorities said.

Hilarious.
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User: "Desertphile"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 28 Oct 2005 02:06:23 PM

Authorities were called to the scene more than three hours later.
"They thought it was a Halloween decoration,"

That's the spirit! As long as someone is going to suicide they may as
well also provide holiday cheer while doing so.
.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 28 Oct 2005 02:29:12 PM
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote:

Authorities were called to the scene more than three hours later.
"They thought it was a Halloween decoration,"

That's the spirit! As long as someone is going to suicide they may as
well also provide holiday cheer while doing so.

She should have set out a box of candy under her first.
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User: "I KILLED YOUR GOD-IT WAS EASY!"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 28 Oct 2005 02:51:46 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote:

Authorities were called to the scene more than three hours later.
"They thought it was a Halloween decoration,"

That's the spirit! As long as someone is going to suicide they may as
well also provide holiday cheer while doing so.


She should have set out a box of candy under her first.

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User: "Desertphile"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 28 Oct 2005 04:25:03 PM

"Desertphile" <desertph...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Authorities were called to the scene more than three hours later.
"They thought it was a Halloween decoration,"

That's the spirit! As long as someone is going to suicide they may as
well also provide holiday cheer while doing so.

She should have set out a box of candy under her first.

Someone should mention that to her for next time.
Oh, wait.... there won't be a "next time."
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 30 Oct 2005 04:22:59 PM
All of the above responders are pathetic if they think that this is funny.
Just goes to show you how heartless humans are. You are so desensitized to a
person's suffering and death, that you fail to see the sadness of this
horrific event. A woman DIED, took her own life because obviously, she
thought that life was not worth living, obviously being in great pain and
grief, and you evil heartless people make it a joke.
Halloween is NOT a holiday, nor should it be. It is a celebration of evil.
any wonder, you evil ones see a person's death as a joke. May the whole
world laugh at your own demises.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Desertphile" <desertph...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Authorities were called to the scene more than three hours later.
"They thought it was a Halloween decoration,"


That's the spirit! As long as someone is going to suicide they may as
well also provide holiday cheer while doing so.


She should have set out a box of candy under her first.


Someone should mention that to her for next time.

Oh, wait.... there won't be a "next time."

.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 05:42:53 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in
news:7Jb9f.1744$cg6.10@trndny04:

All of the above responders are pathetic if they think that this is
funny. Just goes to show you how heartless humans are. You are so
desensitized to a person's suffering and death, that you fail to see
the sadness of this horrific event. A woman DIED, took her own life
because obviously, she thought that life was not worth living,
obviously being in great pain and grief, and you evil heartless people
make it a joke.

Halloween is NOT a holiday, nor should it be. It is a celebration of
evil. any wonder, you evil ones see a person's death as a joke. May
the whole world laugh at your own demises.

Go hang yaself.
--
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Brought to you by...
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But if you're a pedo, you're PRIEST material!!
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User: "Desertphile"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 02 Nov 2005 07:46:46 PM

Go hang yaself.

LOL! Maybe he'll remember to put a box of candy under himself before
kicking the chair away.
.
User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 03 Nov 2005 05:33:03 PM
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1130982406.437529.32350@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Go hang yaself.


LOL! Maybe he'll remember to put a box of candy under himself before
kicking the chair away.

Knowing Dore, it'll be dollar-store-brand "candy corn."
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Brought to you by...
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 11:56:51 PM
Doc Smartass <gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:

"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in
news:7Jb9f.1744$cg6.10@trndny04:

Halloween is NOT a holiday, nor should it be. It is a celebration of
evil. any wonder, you evil ones see a person's death as a joke. May
the whole world laugh at your own demises.

Go hang yaself.

Set out candy first!
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User: "T Moore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 30 Oct 2005 05:17:38 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in
news:7Jb9f.1744$cg6.10@trndny04:

Just goes to show you how heartless humans are. You are
so desensitized to a person's suffering and death, that
you fail to see the sadness of this horrific event.

They are not the only ones, though, are they Dore?
Some of have a history of being right
http://expenses.geraintdavies.org/
not that it gets us anywhere worthwhile.
--
T Moore
N E Manchester, England
http://sitemenu.tom-moore.com/
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 08:38:44 AM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7Jb9f.1744$cg6.10@trndny04...
snip

Halloween is NOT a holiday, nor should it be. It is a celebration of

evil.
Learn some history, you retard.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 04:52:46 PM
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news:3smojlFp705oU1@individual.net...


Learn some history, you retard.

Tonite's your special nite isn't it Rob?
ALL HALLOWS' EVE, or Halloween, originated in the 7th century AD. It was
celebrated on 13 May and was a night for remembering deceased saints and
martyrs. The date was later changed to November 1 in order to Christianize
the pagan holidays Beltane and Samhain--festivals of summer, winter and
fire.
James Frazer, in The Golden Bough, said, "throughout Europe, Hallowe'en, the
night which marks the transition from autumn to winter, seems to have been
of old the time of year when the souls of the departed revisited their homes
in order to warm themselves by the fire." Such ghosts walked the countryside
retrieving offerings of food and drink (the treat) supplied by living family
members. Darker forces roamed the night as well. Demons, hobgoblins, witches
on broomstick, all haunting the night with acts of mischief (the trick).
Real witches were also known to revel on Halloween night. According to Man,
Myth & Magic, the witches of Aberdeen danced "round an old grey stone at the
foot of the hill at Craigleuch, the Devil himself playing music before
them." Modern witches and Wiccans practice similar skyclad (nude) Halloween
traditions, calling on earth spirits and goddesses to visit their knife
drawn circles of power.
The Goddess Hecate
Hecate, the Titan earth mother of the wizards and witches, illustrates
perhaps better than any other ancient goddess, the connection between Wicca,
the Celtic Halloween traditions, and the realm of evil supernaturalism.
As the dark goddess of witchcraft, Hecate, like Isis, was worshiped with
impure rites and magical incantations. Her name was probably derived from
the ancient Egyptian word Heka ("sorcery" or "magical"), which may explain
her association with the Egyptian frog goddess of the same name. This may
also explain the affiliation of frogs with witchcraft, and the various
potions of frog-wart and "hecateis" (Hecate's hallucinogenic plant, also
called Aconite), which supposedly sprouted from the spittle of Cerberus
(Hade's three-headed guard dog) that fell to the ground when Hercules forced
him to the surface of the earth.
Because her devotees practiced such magic wherever three paths joined,
Hecate was known by the Romans as Trivia ( tri "three," and via "roads").
Later, when the Latin church fathers compared the magic of the goddess
Trivia with the power of the Gospel, they found it to be inferior, and thus
the pursuit of Hecate's knowledge became known as Trivial Pursuit, or
inconsequential. But the fact that Hecate's followers sincerely believed in
and feared her magic and presence was legendary. We find example of such
fear in the Argonautica, (Jason and the Argonauts) by Apollonius Rhodius,
when the sorceress Medea provided a spell for Jason to use in winning
Hecate's assistance:
Take heed now, that I may devise help for thee. When at thy coming my father
has given thee the deadly teeth from the dragon's jaws for sowing, then
watch for the time when the night is parted in twain, then bathe in the
stream of the tireless river, and alone, apart from others, clad in dusky
raiment, dig a rounded pit; and therein slay a ewe, and sacrifice it whole,
heaping high the pyre on the very edge of the pit. And propitiate
only-begotten Hecate, daughter of Perses, pouring from a goblet the
hive-stored labour of bees. And then, when thou hast heedfully sought the
grace of the goddess, retreat from the pyre; and let neither the sound of
feet drive thee to turn back, nor the baying of hounds, lest haply thou
shouldst maim all the rites and thyself fail to return duly to thy
comrads....
Jason bathed his tender body reverently in the sacred river; and round him
he placed a dark robe, [and] he cut the throat of the sheep, and duly placed
the carcase above; and he kindled the logs placing fire beneath, and poured
over them mingled libations, calling on Hecate Brimo [the Mighty One] to aid
him in the contests. And when he had called on her he drew back; and she
heard him, the dread goddess, from the uttermost depths, and came to the
sacrifice of Aeson's son [Jason]; and round her horrible serpents twined
themselves among the oak boughs; and there was a gleam of countless torches;
and sharply howled around her the hounds of hell. All the meadows trembled
at her step; and the nymphs that haunt the marsh and the river shrieked, all
who dance around that mead of Amarantian Phasis. And fear seized Aeson's
son, but not even so did he turn round as his feet bore him forth, till he
came back to his comrades.
Such magic, as illustrated in the fiction above, was fearfully employed by
people to appease Hecate. This was primarily due to her role as the
sorceress of the afterlife, but true believers also feared Hecate's ability
to afflict the mind with madness (as in the Dionystic curses), as well as
her influence over night creatures. She was thought to govern haunted places
where evil or murderous activity had occurred. Such areas where violence or
lechery had a history were believed to be magnets of malevolent spirits,
something like "haunted houses," and if one wanted to get along with the
resident apparitions they needed to make oblations to the ruler of the
darkness--Hecate.
Hecate's familiar (the night owl) announced the acceptance of the oblations,
and those who gathered on the eve of the full moon perceived the spooky
sound of the creature as a good omen. Statues of the goddess bearing the
triple-face of a dog, a snake, and a horse, overshadowed the dark rituals
when they were performed at the crossing of three roads. At midnight,
Hecate's devotees left food offerings at the intersection for the goddess
('Hecate's Supper'), and, once deposited, quickly exited without turning
around or looking back. Sometimes the offerings consisted of honey cakes and
chicken hearts. At other time's puppies, honey, and female black lambs were
slaughtered for the goddess and her strigae.
The strigae were deformed and vicious owl-like affiliates of Hecate who flew
through the night feeding on bodies of unattended babies. During the day the
strigae appeared as simple old women, and such may account for the history
of flying witches. The same strigae hid amidst the leaves of the trees
during the annual festival of Hecate (held on August 13), when Hecate's
followers offered up the highest praise of the goddess. Hecate's devotees
celebrated such festivals near Lake Averna in Campania where the sacred
willow groves of the goddess stood, and they communed with the tree spirits
(earth spirits, including Hecate, were thought to inhabit trees) and
summoned the souls of the dead from the mouths of nearby caves. It was here
that Hecate was known as Hecate-Chthonia ("Hecate of the earth"), a
depiction in which she most clearly embodied the popular earth-mother-spirit
that conversed through the cave-stones and sacred willow trees.
Whereas Hecate was elsewhere known as Hecate-Propylaia, "the one before the
gate," a role in which she guarded the entrances of homes and temples from
nefarious outside evils (talk about Satan casting out Satan!); and whereas
she was also known as Hecate-Propolos, "the one who leads," as in the
underworld guide of Persephone and of those who inhabit graveyards; and
finally whereas she was known as Hecate-Phosphoros, "the light bearer," her
most sacred title and one that recalls another powerful underworld spirit,
Satan, whose original name was Lucifer ("the light bearer"); it was
nevertheless her role as the feminist earth-goddess-spirit Hecate-Chthonia
that popularized her divinity and commanded reverence from among the common
people.
Modern Symbolism
The connection between ancient paganism and the modern customs and costumes
of Halloween is easy to trace. The Hecatian myths adopted by Celtic
occultists continue in pop culture, symbolism, and tradition in the
following ways:
People visiting neighborhood homes on Halloween night represent the dead in
search of food (the treat).
Masks of devils and hobgoblins represent evil spirits seeking mischief (the
trick).
Those who pass out candy represent the homes visited by the dead, or may
also represent worried individuals seeking to appease Hecate and other
nighttime terrors.
The Jack-O-Lantern (will-o-the-wisp, fox fire, fairy fire, etc.) is,
according to some histories, a wandering soul stuck between heaven and hell.
Others claim the Druids left Jack-O-Lanterns on doorsteps to ward off evil
spirits. Another legend concerns a drunk named Jack who made a deal with the
devil. Each claims to be the true origin of the Jack-O-Lantern myth.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7Jb9f.1744$cg6.10@trndny04...
snip

Halloween is NOT a holiday, nor should it be. It is a celebration of

evil.

Learn some history, you retard.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist


.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 01 Nov 2005 10:07:52 AM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2fx9f.10204$bD.3875@trndny01...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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Learn some history, you retard.


Tonite's your special nite isn't it Rob?

ALL HALLOWS' EVE, or Halloween, originated in the 7th century AD. It was
celebrated on 13 May and was a night for remembering deceased saints and
martyrs. The date was later changed to November 1 in order to Christianize
the pagan holidays Beltane and Samhain--festivals of summer, winter and
fire.

James Frazer, in The Golden Bough, said, "throughout Europe, Hallowe'en,

the

night which marks the transition from autumn to winter, seems to have been
of old the time of year when the souls of the departed revisited their

homes

in order to warm themselves by the fire." Such ghosts walked the

countryside

retrieving offerings of food and drink (the treat) supplied by living

family

members. Darker forces roamed the night as well. Demons, hobgoblins,

witches

on broomstick, all haunting the night with acts of mischief (the trick).

Real witches were also known to revel on Halloween night. According to

Man,

Myth & Magic, the witches of Aberdeen danced "round an old grey stone at

the

foot of the hill at Craigleuch, the Devil himself playing music before
them." Modern witches and Wiccans practice similar skyclad (nude)

Halloween

traditions, calling on earth spirits and goddesses to visit their knife
drawn circles of power.

The Goddess Hecate

Hecate, the Titan earth mother of the wizards and witches, illustrates
perhaps better than any other ancient goddess, the connection between

Wicca,

the Celtic Halloween traditions, and the realm of evil supernaturalism.

As the dark goddess of witchcraft, Hecate, like Isis, was worshiped with
impure rites and magical incantations. Her name was probably derived from
the ancient Egyptian word Heka ("sorcery" or "magical"), which may explain
her association with the Egyptian frog goddess of the same name. This may
also explain the affiliation of frogs with witchcraft, and the various
potions of frog-wart and "hecateis" (Hecate's hallucinogenic plant, also
called Aconite), which supposedly sprouted from the spittle of Cerberus
(Hade's three-headed guard dog) that fell to the ground when Hercules

forced

him to the surface of the earth.

Because her devotees practiced such magic wherever three paths joined,
Hecate was known by the Romans as Trivia ( tri "three," and via "roads").
Later, when the Latin church fathers compared the magic of the goddess
Trivia with the power of the Gospel, they found it to be inferior, and

thus

the pursuit of Hecate's knowledge became known as Trivial Pursuit, or
inconsequential. But the fact that Hecate's followers sincerely believed

in

and feared her magic and presence was legendary. We find example of such
fear in the Argonautica, (Jason and the Argonauts) by Apollonius Rhodius,
when the sorceress Medea provided a spell for Jason to use in winning
Hecate's assistance:


Take heed now, that I may devise help for thee. When at thy coming my

father

has given thee the deadly teeth from the dragon's jaws for sowing, then
watch for the time when the night is parted in twain, then bathe in the
stream of the tireless river, and alone, apart from others, clad in dusky
raiment, dig a rounded pit; and therein slay a ewe, and sacrifice it

whole,

heaping high the pyre on the very edge of the pit. And propitiate
only-begotten Hecate, daughter of Perses, pouring from a goblet the
hive-stored labour of bees. And then, when thou hast heedfully sought the
grace of the goddess, retreat from the pyre; and let neither the sound of
feet drive thee to turn back, nor the baying of hounds, lest haply thou
shouldst maim all the rites and thyself fail to return duly to thy
comrads....
Jason bathed his tender body reverently in the sacred river; and round him
he placed a dark robe, [and] he cut the throat of the sheep, and duly

placed

the carcase above; and he kindled the logs placing fire beneath, and

poured

over them mingled libations, calling on Hecate Brimo [the Mighty One] to

aid

him in the contests. And when he had called on her he drew back; and she
heard him, the dread goddess, from the uttermost depths, and came to the
sacrifice of Aeson's son [Jason]; and round her horrible serpents twined
themselves among the oak boughs; and there was a gleam of countless

torches;

and sharply howled around her the hounds of hell. All the meadows trembled
at her step; and the nymphs that haunt the marsh and the river shrieked,

all

who dance around that mead of Amarantian Phasis. And fear seized Aeson's
son, but not even so did he turn round as his feet bore him forth, till he
came back to his comrades.

Such magic, as illustrated in the fiction above, was fearfully employed by
people to appease Hecate. This was primarily due to her role as the
sorceress of the afterlife, but true believers also feared Hecate's

ability

to afflict the mind with madness (as in the Dionystic curses), as well as
her influence over night creatures. She was thought to govern haunted

places

where evil or murderous activity had occurred. Such areas where violence

or

lechery had a history were believed to be magnets of malevolent spirits,
something like "haunted houses," and if one wanted to get along with the
resident apparitions they needed to make oblations to the ruler of the
darkness--Hecate.
Hecate's familiar (the night owl) announced the acceptance of the

oblations,

and those who gathered on the eve of the full moon perceived the spooky
sound of the creature as a good omen. Statues of the goddess bearing the
triple-face of a dog, a snake, and a horse, overshadowed the dark rituals
when they were performed at the crossing of three roads. At midnight,
Hecate's devotees left food offerings at the intersection for the goddess
('Hecate's Supper'), and, once deposited, quickly exited without turning
around or looking back. Sometimes the offerings consisted of honey cakes

and

chicken hearts. At other time's puppies, honey, and female black lambs

were

slaughtered for the goddess and her strigae.

The strigae were deformed and vicious owl-like affiliates of Hecate who

flew

through the night feeding on bodies of unattended babies. During the day

the

strigae appeared as simple old women, and such may account for the history
of flying witches. The same strigae hid amidst the leaves of the trees
during the annual festival of Hecate (held on August 13), when Hecate's
followers offered up the highest praise of the goddess. Hecate's devotees
celebrated such festivals near Lake Averna in Campania where the sacred
willow groves of the goddess stood, and they communed with the tree

spirits

(earth spirits, including Hecate, were thought to inhabit trees) and
summoned the souls of the dead from the mouths of nearby caves. It was

here

that Hecate was known as Hecate-Chthonia ("Hecate of the earth"), a
depiction in which she most clearly embodied the popular

earth-mother-spirit

that conversed through the cave-stones and sacred willow trees.

Whereas Hecate was elsewhere known as Hecate-Propylaia, "the one before

the

gate," a role in which she guarded the entrances of homes and temples from
nefarious outside evils (talk about Satan casting out Satan!); and whereas
she was also known as Hecate-Propolos, "the one who leads," as in the
underworld guide of Persephone and of those who inhabit graveyards; and
finally whereas she was known as Hecate-Phosphoros, "the light bearer,"

her

most sacred title and one that recalls another powerful underworld spirit,
Satan, whose original name was Lucifer ("the light bearer"); it was
nevertheless her role as the feminist earth-goddess-spirit Hecate-Chthonia
that popularized her divinity and commanded reverence from among the

common

people.

Modern Symbolism

The connection between ancient paganism and the modern customs and

costumes

of Halloween is easy to trace. The Hecatian myths adopted by Celtic
occultists continue in pop culture, symbolism, and tradition in the
following ways:

People visiting neighborhood homes on Halloween night represent the dead

in

search of food (the treat).
Masks of devils and hobgoblins represent evil spirits seeking mischief

(the

trick).
Those who pass out candy represent the homes visited by the dead, or may
also represent worried individuals seeking to appease Hecate and other
nighttime terrors.
The Jack-O-Lantern (will-o-the-wisp, fox fire, fairy fire, etc.) is,
according to some histories, a wandering soul stuck between heaven and

hell.

Others claim the Druids left Jack-O-Lanterns on doorsteps to ward off evil
spirits. Another legend concerns a drunk named Jack who made a deal with

the

devil. Each claims to be the true origin of the Jack-O-Lantern myth.

Yeah, so, what's the problem?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.

User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 05:57:55 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3smojlFp705oU1@individual.net...

Learn some history, you retard.

Tonite's your special nite isn't it Rob?

Do you even know what the origins and history of All Saints Eve is?
<heh> Or for that matter what Christmas is really all about.
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User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 07:01:44 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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Do you even know what the origins and history of All Saints Eve is?

Yes, but it doesn't matter to me, because it is a Catholic creation.
cont


<heh> Or for that matter what Christmas is really all about.

The history of Christmas doesn't matter to me either because I celebrate it
with my own choices.
Either way, neither one celebrates evil, as Halloween does.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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Learn some history, you retard.

Tonite's your special nite isn't it Rob?


Do you even know what the origins and history of All Saints Eve is?

<heh> Or for that matter what Christmas is really all about.

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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 01 Nov 2005 10:08:46 AM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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Do you even know what the origins and history of All Saints Eve is?


Yes, but it doesn't matter to me, because it is a Catholic creation.

cont


<heh> Or for that matter what Christmas is really all about.


The history of Christmas doesn't matter to me either because I celebrate

it

with my own choices.

Either way, neither one celebrates evil, as Halloween does.

So what?
Go get annally raped by some demon/aliens while your Santa god watches. You
know you get off on that.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 11:57:12 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11mdbsbkbenfpbf@corp.supernews.com...

Do you even know what the origins and history of All Saints Eve is?

Yes, but it doesn't matter to me, because it is a Catholic creation.

<rofl!!!>

<heh> Or for that matter what Christmas is really all about.

The history of Christmas doesn't matter to me
either because I celebrate it with my own choices.

So you want to hijack a superior religion's festivals and play pretend
to try to twist them into some freakish death cult ritual. Bizarre.
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User: "Desertphile"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 02 Nov 2005 07:44:08 PM

Real witches were also known to revel on Halloween night.

ROTFL!!!!!! "Real witches!" ROTFLMAO!!!!
The Origins of Halloween by Roman Moonstone
In recent years, there have been a number of pamphlets put out by
various Christian organizations dealing with the origins of modern day
Halloween customs. Being a Witch myself, and a student of the ancient
Celt , from whom we get this holiday, I have found these pamphlets
woefully inaccurate and poorly researched. In an effort to correct some
of this erroneous information, I have spent several months researching
the religious life of the ancient Celtic peoples and the survivals of
that religious life in modern day times. Listed below are some of the
most commonly asked questions concerning the origins and customs of
Halloween. Following the questions is a lengthy bibliography where the
curious reader can go to learn more about this holiday than space in
this small pamphlet permits.
1. Where does Halloween come from?
Our modern celebration of Halloween is a descendent of the ancient
Celtic fire festival called "Samhain". The word is pronounced "sow-in",
with "sow" rhyming with cow.
2. What does "Samhain" mean?
The Irish English dictionary published by the Irish Texts Society
defines the word as follows: "Samhain, All Hallowtide, the feast of the
dead in Pagan and Christian times, signalizing the close of harvest and
the initiation of the winter season, lasting till May, during which
troops (esp. the Fiann) were quartered. Faeries were imagined as
particularly active at this season. From it the half year is reckoned.
also called Feile Moingfinne (Snow Goddess).(1) The Scottish Gaelis
Dictionary defines it as "Hallowtide. The Feast of All Soula. Sam Fuin
= end of summer."(2) Contrary to the information published by many
organizations, there is no archaeological or literary evidence to
indicate that Samhain was a deity. The Celtic Gods of the dead were
Gwynn ap Nudd for the British, and Arawn for the Welsh. The Irish did
not have a "lord of death" as such.
3. Why was the end of summer of significance to the Celts?
The Celts were a pastoral people as opposed to an agricultural people.
The end of summer was significant to them because it meant the time of
year when the structure of their lives changed radically. The cattle
were brought down from the summer pastures in the hills and the people
were gathered into the houses for the long winter nights of story-
telling and handicrafts.
4. What does it have to do with a festival of the dead?
The Celts believed that when people died, they went to a land of
eternal youth and happiness called Tir nan Og. They did not have the
concept of heaven and hell that the Christian church later brought into
the land. The dead were sometimes believed to be dwelling with the
Fairy Folk, who lived in the numerous mounds or sidhe (pron. "shee")
that dotted the Irish and Scottish countryside. Samhain was the new
year to the Celts. In the Celtic belief system, turning points, such as
the time between one day and the next, the meeting of sea and shore, or
the turning of one year into the next were seen as magickal times. The
turning of the year was the most potent of these times. This was the
time when the "veil between the worlds" was at its thinnest, and the
living could communicate with their beloved dead in Tir nan Og.
5. What about the aspects of "evil" that we associate with the night
today?
The Celts did not have demons and devils in their belief system. The
fairies, however, were often considered hostile and dangerous to humans
because they were seen as being resentful of men taking over their
lands. On this night, they would sometimes trick humans into becoming
lost in the fairy mounds, where they would be trapped forever. After
the coming of the Christians to the Celtic lands, certain of the folk
saw the fairies as those angels who had sided neither with God or with
Lucifer in their dispute, and thus, were condemned to walk the earth
until judgment day.(3) In addition to the fairies, many humans were
abroad on this night, causing mischief. since this night belonged
neither to one year or the other, Celtic folk believed that chaos
reigned and the people would engage in "horseplay and practical
jokes".(4) This served also as a final outlet for high spirits before
the gloom of winter set in.
6. What about "trick or treat"?
During the course of these hijinks, many of the people would imitate
the fairies and go from house to house begging for treats. Failure to
supply the treats would usually result in practical jokes being visited
on the owner of the house. Since the fairies were abroad on this night,
an offering of food or milk was frequently left for them on the steps
of the house, so the homeowner could gain the blessings of the "good
folk" for the coming year. Many of the households would also leave out
a "dumb supper" for the spirits of the departed.(5) The folks who were
abroad in the night imitating the fairies would some- times carry
turnips carved to represent faces. This is the origin of our modern
Jack-o-lantern.
7. Was this also a religious festival?
Yes. Celtic religion was very closely tied to the Earth. Their great
legends are concerned with momentous happenings which took place around
the time of Samhain. many of the great battles and legends of kings and
heroes center on this night. Many of the legends concern the promotion
of fertility of the earth and the insurance of the continuance of the
lives of the people through the dark winter season.
8. How was the religious festival observed?
Unfortunately, we know very little about that. W.G. Wood-Martin, in his
book, "Traces of the Elder Faiths of Ireland" states, "There is
comparitively little trace of the religion of the Druids now
discoverable, save in the folklore of the peasantry, and the references
relative to it that occur in ancient and authentic Irish manuscripts
are, as far as present appearances go, meagre and insufficient to
support anything like a sound theory for full development of the
ancient religion."(6) The Druids were the priests of the Celtic
peoples. They passed on their teachings by oral tradition instead of
committing them to writing, so when they perished, most of their
religious teachings were lost. We DO know that this festival was
characterized as one of the four great "Fire Festivals" of the Celts.
Legends tell us that on this night, all the hearth fires in Ireland
were extinguished, and then re-lit from the central fire of the Druids
at Tlachtga, 12 miles from the royal hill of Tara. This fire was
kindled from "need fire" which had been generated by the friction of
rubbing two sticks together as opposed to more conventional methods
common in those days.(7) The extinguishing of the fires symbolized the
"dark half" of the year, and the re-kindling from the Druidic fires was
symbolic of the returning life hoped for, and brought about through the
ministrations of the priesthood.
9. What about sacrifices?
Animals were certainly killed at this time of year. This was the time
to "cull" from the herds those animals which were not desired for
breeding purposes for the next year. Most certainly, some of these
would have been done in a ritualistic manner for the use of the
priesthood.
10. Were humans sacrificed?
Scholars are sharply divided on this account, with about half believing
that it took place and half doubting its veracity. Caesar and Tacitus
certainly tell tales of the human sacrifices of the Celts, but Nora
Chadwick points out in her book "The Celts" that "it is not without
interest that the Romans themselves had abolished human sacrifices not
long before Caesar's time, and references to the practice among various
barbarian peoples have certain overtones of self-righteousness. There
is little direct archaeological evidence relevant to Celtic sacrifice."
(8) Indeed, there is little reference to this practice in Celtic
literature either. The only surviving story echoes the story of the
Minotaur in Greek legend. The Fomorians, a race of evil giants said to
inhabit portions of Ireland before the coming of the Tuatha de Danaan,
or "people of the Goddess Danu",demanded the sacrifice of 2/3 of the
corn, milk, and first born children of the Fir Bolg, or human
inhabitants of Ireland. The De Danaan ended this practice in the second
battle of Moy Tura, which incidentally took place on Samhain.
11. What other practices were associated with this season?
Folk tradition tells us of many divination practices associated with
Samhain. Among the most common were divinations dealing with marriage,
weather, and the coming fortunes for the year. These were performed via
such methods as ducking for apples, and apple peeling. Ducking for
apples was a marriage divination. The first person to bite an apple
would be the first to marry in the coming year. Apple peeling was a
divination tosee how long your life would be. The longer the unbroken
apple peel, the longer your life was destined to be.(9) In Scotland,
people would place stones in the ashes of the hearth before retiring
for the night. Anyone whose stone had been disturbed during the night
was said to be destined to die during the coming year.
12. How did these ancient Celtic practices come to America?
When the potato crop in Ireland failed, many of the Irish people,
modern day descendents of the Celts, immigrated to America, bringing
with them their folk practices, which are the remnants of the Celtic
festival observances.
13. We in America view this as a harvest festival. Did the Celts also
view it as such?
Yes. The Celts had 3 harvests: Aug 1, or Lammas, was the first harvest,
when the first fruits were offered to the Gods in thanks. The Fall
Equinox was the "true harvest". This was when the bulk of the crops
would be brought in. Samhain was the final harvest of the year.
Anything left on the vines or in the fields after this date was
considered blasted by the fairies, or "pu'ka", and unfit for human
consumption.
14. Does anyone today celebrate Samhain as a religious observance?
Yes. many followers of various pagan religions, such as Druids and
Wiccans observe this day as a religious festival. They view it as a
memorial day for their dead friends, similar to the national holiday of
Memorial Day in May. It is still a night to practice various forms of
divination concerning future events. Also, it is considered a time to
wrap up old projects, take stock of ones life, and initiate new
projects for the coming year. As the winter season is approaching, it
is a good time to do studying on research projects and also a goot time
to begin hand work such as sewing, leather working, woodworking, etc.
for Yule gifts later in the year.
15. Does this involve human or animal sacrifice?
Absolutely NOT! Hollywood to the contrary, blood sacrifice is not
practiced by modern day followers of Wicca or Druidism. There may be
some people who THINK they are practicing Wicca by performing blood
sacrifices, but this is NOT condoned by reputable practitioners of the
modern day NeoPagan religions.
FOOTNOTES:
(1) Rev. Patrick Dineen, "An Irish English Dictionary" (Dublin, 1927),
p. 937
(2) Malcolm MacLennan, "A Pronouncing and Etymological Dictionary of
the Gaelic Language" (Aberdeen, 1979), p. 279
(3) W.G. Wood-Martin,"Traces of the Elder Faiths of Ireland" (Port
Washington, 1902), p. 5.
(4) Kevin Danaher,"The Year in Ireland", (Cork,1972), p. 214
(5) Alwyn & Brinley Rees,"Celtic Heritage" (New York,1961), p. 90
(6) Wood-Martin, p. 249
(7) Rees & Rees, p. 90
(8) Nora Chadwick, "The Celts" (Harmondsworth,1982), p. 151
(9) Madeleine Pelner Cosman, "Medieval Holidays and Festivals," (New
York, 1981), p. 81
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Chadwick, Nora, "The Celts", Harmondsworth: Penguin Books, 1982
Coglan, Ronan, "A Dictionary of Irish Myth and Legend", Dublin,1979
Cosman, Madeleine Pelner, "Medieval Holidays and Festivals", New York:
Charles Scribner's Sons, 1981
Danaher, Kevin, "The Year in Ireland", Cork: The Mercier Press, 1972
Dineen, Rev. Patrick S.,M.A, "An Irish English Dictionary", Dublin: The
Irish texts Society, 1927
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Group Limited, 1970
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Gaelic Language", Aberdeen: Acair and Aberdeen University Press, 1979
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Bhealoideas Eireann,1982
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Alwyn and Brinley, "Celtic Heritage, Ancient Traditions in Ireland and
Wales", New York: Thanes & Hudson, 1961
Sharkey, John, "Celtic Mysteries", New York: Thanes and Hudson, 1975
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1946
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Newcastle Publishing Co, Inc. 1975
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Hobhouse, Ltd, 1981
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II, Port Washington: Kennikat Press, 1902 (c)
copywrite 1988, Rowan Moonstone P O Box 21058 OKC. OK 73120
Permission is granted for use by pagan groups and on pagan BBS systems.
All others must contact the author prior to use.
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 31 Oct 2005 09:27:53 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Halloween is NOT a holiday, nor should it be. It is a celebration of evil.

<heh!>

Learn some history, you retard.

Hey, Dore heard it from Rush Limbaugh. Must be true.
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 30 Oct 2005 05:51:08 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

All of the above responders are pathetic
if they think that this is funny.

Translation: Little Dore wants to pretend all politically correct.

Just goes to show you how heartless humans are.

And Christianity's history isn't enough to prove that?
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User: "Desertphile"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 02 Nov 2005 07:38:32 PM

ALl Of thE aBOVe ReSPonDERs Are pAtheTic if they ThiNK tHAt this IS funNY.
just GoES to sHow yoU how heaRTlesS hUmans ARe. YoU ARE so DesENsItiZEd tO A
peRSON'S suFFeriNG and DeATH, ThaT YOu FaIL tO SeE thE SadNesS oF This
HorrIfiC eVENt. A wOMAn DiED, tOok hEr owN LIfE becAuse Obviously, She
ThOughT tHaT life Was nOT WoRtH lIving, obvIously beiNG in greAt paIN AND
grieF, anD YOU evIl HEArtlESS PeOple maKe it a joKe.

You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here. There
ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel sorry and
grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as myself) who made
jokes about her death.
I take it as a fundamental human right for any adult to kill herself or
himself if they choose. I cannot sit here and judge if the woman in
question had valid reasons for wishing to die.
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User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 06 Nov 2005 04:52:44 PM
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130981912.307028.319880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here. There
ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel sorry and
grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as myself) who made
jokes about her death.

How many jokes would you have made if it were your mother, sister, wife, or
girlfriend?
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130981912.307028.319880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

ALl Of thE aBOVe ReSPonDERs Are pAtheTic if they ThiNK tHAt this IS
funNY.
just GoES to sHow yoU how heaRTlesS hUmans ARe. YoU ARE so DesENsItiZEd tO
A
peRSON'S suFFeriNG and DeATH, ThaT YOu FaIL tO SeE thE SadNesS oF This
HorrIfiC eVENt. A wOMAn DiED, tOok hEr owN LIfE becAuse Obviously, She
ThOughT tHaT life Was nOT WoRtH lIving, obvIously beiNG in greAt paIN AND
grieF, anD YOU evIl HEArtlESS PeOple maKe it a joKe.


You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here. There
ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel sorry and
grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as myself) who made
jokes about her death.

I take it as a fundamental human right for any adult to kill herself or
himself if they choose. I cannot sit here and judge if the woman in
question had valid reasons for wishing to die.

.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 06 Nov 2005 09:00:40 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130981912.307028.319880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here. There
ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel sorry and
grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as myself) who made
jokes about her death.

How many jokes would you have made if it were your
mother, sister, wife, or girlfriend?

If she set out candy first? I'd _still_ be laughing.
Jokes and humor are ways that humans deal with their grief, moron.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
"Sex is only perverted if it implants voracious alien parasites in your
bladder or rectum." -- nu-monet v8.0
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 07 Nov 2005 05:30:05 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11mtgqm87miouad@corp.supernews.com...

Jokes and humor are ways that humans deal with their grief, moron.

Bull, not one of these posters were "grieving" over that woman's death, but
me, who saw how truly sad it was and YOU KNOW IT. Certainly NOT YOU, who are
one of the most heartless, evil, lying, deceitful, arrogant, people here.
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
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"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130981912.307028.319880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here. There
ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel sorry and
grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as myself) who made
jokes about her death.

How many jokes would you have made if it were your
mother, sister, wife, or girlfriend?


If she set out candy first? I'd _still_ be laughing.

Jokes and humor are ways that humans deal with their grief, moron.

---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/
http://www.thedarkwind.org/
"Sex is only perverted if it implants voracious alien parasites in your
bladder or rectum." -- nu-monet v8.0

.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 07 Nov 2005 09:22:01 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" <FRice@SkepticTank.ORG> wrote in message
news:11mtgqm87miouad@corp.supernews.com...

Jokes and humor are ways that humans deal with their grief, moron.

Bull, not one of these posters were "grieving" over that woman's death,

You're one fucked moron.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
"Sex is only perverted if it implants voracious alien parasites in your
bladder or rectum." -- nu-monet v8.0
.



User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 06 Nov 2005 09:00:41 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Desertphile" <desertphile@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130981912.307028.319880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here. There
ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel sorry and
grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as myself) who made
jokes about her death.

How many jokes would you have made if it were your
mother, sister, wife, or girlfriend?

If she set out candy first? I'd _still_ be laughing.
Jokes and humor are ways that humans deal with their grief, moron.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
"Sex is only perverted if it implants voracious alien parasites in your
bladder or rectum." -- nu-monet v8.0
.

User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 06 Nov 2005 05:43:45 PM
Dore wrote:


You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here.
There ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel
sorry and grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as
myself) who made jokes about her death.



How many jokes would you have made if it were your mother, sister,
wife, or girlfriend?

If you are complaining about the jokes don't *ever* spend any time with the
people who may save your life if you are in an accident. I've never met
anyone who did not make jokes such as these.
I'd also advise that you be lost at sea when it comes time for you to die.
Not only does the average body snatcher make the same kind of jokes but they
may comment on any physical differences you have.
It's also a bit interesting to see where body parts end up after a full post
mortem or what happens if you are a bit tall for the casket and they can't
con your relatives into a larger model for a grand or so more.
.
User: "Dore"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 07 Nov 2005 05:28:02 PM
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Rywbf.25043$6e1.12238@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

If you are complaining about the jokes don't *ever* spend any time with
the people who may save your life if you are in an accident. I've never
met anyone who did not make jokes such as these.

I'd also advise that you be lost at sea when it comes time for you to die.
Not only does the average body snatcher make the same kind of jokes but
they may comment on any physical differences you have.

It's also a bit interesting to see where body parts end up after a full
post mortem or what happens if you are a bit tall for the casket and they
can't con your relatives into a larger model for a grand or so more.

Like I said, people are heartless!
--
Dore
www.dorewilliamson.com
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Rywbf.25043$6e1.12238@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

Dore wrote:


You seem to be the one who has the twisted sense of reality here.
There ain't no one who commented on this subject who does not feel
sorry and grieve for the dead woman-- even the people (such as
myself) who made jokes about her death.



How many jokes would you have made if it were your mother, sister,
wife, or girlfriend?


If you are complaining about the jokes don't *ever* spend any time with
the people who may save your life if you are in an accident. I've never
met anyone who did not make jokes such as these.

I'd also advise that you be lost at sea when it comes time for you to die.
Not only does the average body snatcher make the same kind of jokes but
they may comment on any physical differences you have.

It's also a bit interesting to see where body parts end up after a full
post mortem or what happens if you are a bit tall for the casket and they
can't con your relatives into a larger model for a grand or so more.

.
User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: Ha ha 2: Suicide Mistaken for Halloween Decoration 07 Nov 2005 09:22:00 PM
"Dore" <dorewilliamson@verizon.net> wrote:

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

It's also a bit interesting to see where body parts end up after a full
post mortem or what happens if you are a bit tall for the casket and they
can't con your relatives into a larger model for a grand or so more.

Like I said, people are heartless!

Which is why Christians invaded Iraq and have slaughtered over 100,000
innocent people. We know.
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