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"Pirahna tank missionaries" |
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29 Oct 2005 05:03:21 AM |
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Halloween? |
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
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resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 05:00:44 PM |
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"Pirahna tank missionaries" <yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote in message
news:1uh6m1hesohkomm7ftfnl538a3m1qj85qd@4ax.com...
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
Ive never thought of Halloween as particularily christian. Think this
hijacking might of backfired on em.
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 05:28:28 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 22:00:44 +0000 (UTC), "kathryn" <nospam@here.com> wrote:
"Pirahna tank missionaries" <yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote in message
news:1uh6m1hesohkomm7ftfnl538a3m1qj85qd@4ax.com...
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
Ive never thought of Halloween as particularily christian. Think this
hijacking might of backfired on em.
Study the custom as it's practised in some countries, it's a _very_ Christian
religion. "All saint's eve", I think, might be the more "proper" Christian name
for it.
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L8r,
Uncle Buck
BAAWA
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
31 Oct 2005 08:38:17 AM |
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kathryn wrote:
"Pirahna tank missionaries" <yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote in message
news:1uh6m1hesohkomm7ftfnl538a3m1qj85qd@4ax.com...
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
Ive never thought of Halloween as particularily christian. Think this
hijacking might of backfired on em.
Halloween as practiced in the United States, no. All Saints as practiced in
most Christian countries, very much so. It was and in many countries remains
one of the principle feast days.
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Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"[W]e have never held that moral disapproval, without any other asserted
state interest, is a sufficient rationale under the Equal Protection
Clause to justify a law that discriminates among groups of persons."
- Sandra Day O`Conner, _Lawrence v Texas_
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=02-102
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 07:41:03 AM |
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"Pirahna tank missionaries" <yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote in message
news:1uh6m1hesohkomm7ftfnl538a3m1qj85qd@4ax.com...
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
It was originally Samhain (pronounced "sow-en"). Thought to be a time when
the veil between the world of the living and the world of the dead was thin
and the dead could visit the living. Also a time to remember those that have
passed on before us.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 09:54:09 AM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
It was originally Samhain (pronounced "sow-en"). Thought to be a time when
the veil between the world of the living and the world of the dead was thin
and the dead could visit the living. Also a time to remember those that have
passed on before us.
Which has since been replaced by the annual "Who Died in ____" list.
Bob Dog
Atheist #153 = 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
EAC's chief cook and brainwasher
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"I always thought our house was haunted,
'Cause nobody said boo to me."
- John Hiatt
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 05:30:00 AM |
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"Pirahna tank missionaries" <yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote in message
news:1uh6m1hesohkomm7ftfnl538a3m1qj85qd@4ax.com...
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
Katt.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 11:27:19 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:03:21 +0100, Pirahna tank missionaries
<yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote:
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
It was called Samhain, and was the Celtic New Year.
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
03 Nov 2005 10:35:53 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:27:19 -0400, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:03:21 +0100, Pirahna tank missionaries
<yournamehere@martyrdom.com> wrote:
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
It was called Samhain, and was the Celtic New Year.
What in Sam Hain's gow'en on 'ere?
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "DissidentAggressor" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 08:03:43 AM |
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Pirahna tank missionaries wrote:
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
------------------------------------------------
Conflict over the exact will/purpose/nature of God cannot ever be
resolved, since there are no facts to go on.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
are you sure you didn't mean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helloween
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I won't be force fed prophecies,
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind.
aa#2225
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 10:07:05 AM |
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Pirahna tank missionaries wrote:
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
Celtic Samhain.
From memory: This was the night where the boundaries between our world and
the otherworld were thinnest and the dead actually could walk with the
living for a while.
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"T his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Halloween? |
29 Oct 2005 07:26:58 AM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Pirahna tank missionaries
<yournamehere@martyrdom.com> posting the following on Sat, 29 Oct 2005
11:03:21 +0100 iin alt.atheism?
I know that the name Halloween refers to the fact than it is the eve
(i.e. the day before) All Hallows, I presume there was a pagan
festival round about this time of year which the Christians stole.
Does anybody know if there was, and what it was called?
It is caled Samhain, and I know many people who will be celebrating
it.
http://www.celticspirit.org/samhain.htm
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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